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Author Topic: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)  (Read 9555 times)

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2019, 07:21:11 AM »
Good to see some progress Weave. No adverse comments on the layout from here.

With the cat being away, does this mean that there will be more time for playing testing trains?  :hmmm:

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #121 on: May 15, 2019, 07:27:14 AM »
Looks good Chris.
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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #122 on: May 15, 2019, 12:29:24 PM »
Hi all,

Well, SWMBO is over the Atlantic as we speak.

Keith, I've already had some cheese and played some of my music (loudly!)  :).

So, to Sant Pau de Mar. The previous layout was slightly too big and slightly too heavy to be moved easily while building the Port Regleun 'round the room' Brittany layout so a test layout on an Ikea table was decided upon.

I like doing scenics, although not very good, but get bogged down by them and never run any trains. The plan here is that the layout will have two sides (roughly divided 1/3 to 2/3s with a removable skyline). The left hand side is the Sant Pau de Mar (SPM) station with a small bit of the fictional long beach to be modelled.

The right hand side will be a small beer, wine and spirit Import/Export business serving the East of the peninsular with sidings from both the single French and Spanish gauge tracks. Haven't decided on the best way to do the headshunts etc. or which track side is which re country origin (might be reversible depending on traffic volume).

I cant afford to buy lots of 'proper' goods wagons as I'll need fuel tankers and the like for the Brittany layout in the future so thought the odd different type of booze wagon would fill my want.

For the moment only scenic work will be done on the station side so I can hopefully complete it while still playing on the other side.

So to pics....

The one from earlier and another showing the two tracks and work in progress on the sidings. The terminating track round to the station was a afterthought as thought it could be for a local train branch line up into the mountains and a good reason for express trains to stop there. More of that later.....

IMG_1093 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr


IMG_1094 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

Bit of tunnel construction. Lost a wine box in the second pic and bit over the top but there is method in my madness (I think)....

IMG_1095 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr


IMG_1096 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

Tunnel portals. I wanted to hide most of the curves so the sides are visually separate, the station side is for watching trains go by (and stopping occasionally) with a beer and the other for shunting etc.

IMG_1097 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr


IMG_1098 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

The beach will be in the foreground and that's where I'll sit to watch.

I'll leave it there for a little bit as paranoid I'll lose what I've done (happened before).

Back soon. Thanks for watching.

Salud i Sant weave  :beers:




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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #123 on: May 15, 2019, 01:07:04 PM »
This looks absolutely splendid, Chris.

A through station on one side and sidings on t' other is my chosen format for my present layout and it works very well indeed (although I say it myself!).  The sidings can be used for shunting but are more of a semi-scenic storage yard.

What size is the layout?  It looks four-ish by two-and-a-bit or so.

I look forward to more pictures.

With best wishes.

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #124 on: May 15, 2019, 01:15:15 PM »
Just wondering... Spain, isn't that that western european country with a not-standard gauge, but a larger gauge?

Will you create special tracks featuring a broader gauge, or simulate this by some shunting rules that "simulate" the existence of different gauge tracks and sidings?
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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #125 on: May 15, 2019, 01:30:05 PM »
Hi again,

Last of the pics but gives an idea of what I'm trying to achieve. Hopefully there will be lots of train pics when the camera phone lady returns  ;)  :).

Here's the double sided backscene. It's a bit over the top (9mm MDF but was all I had). It's designed (ha) to be removable so probably just nice sunny Mediterranen blue sky. Each side of the layout will have a lower edge with trees and shrubs etc. to create the illusion if that makes sense. I'm not a great fan of far away hills backscenes. Some look great and others not so. I just know mine would be in the looks rubbish category. It'll just be down the middle as not bothered about the sides....

IMG_1099 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

I thought I'd probably put the 'El Gaitero' restaurant from previous layout efforts on top of the wine box as it fits nicely ish (needs work though) with views over the station, beach and sea (it's where I'd like to eat  :)....

IMG_1100 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

The station building with a bit of foliage. Not a lot is stuck down yet, am still playing around to see what looks right. Thinking taxis in front of station and bus stop and parked cars further up. Have got loads of palm trees to come but don't want it to look too cheesey......

IMG_1101 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

As I said, I didn't have time to do train pics as the phone was nabbed off me but I did get a glimpse of one as I had promised Nick @ntpntpntp that as he had so kindly mended my Rivarossi SNCF 231 I'd make it the first train pic. Had hoped to have it in full view with a train behind it but there's always next week. It's way away from where it should be in North East France but Rule 1 applies. Also need to get some seated figures so the seating area around the palm tree for people waiting for the bus looks like one rather than a polo mint (it's not by the way)....

IMG_1102 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

I'll leave you all in peace now.

Thanks again for watching.

Off to test and play with some rakes for photo opportunities next week.

Cheers weave  :beers:




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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #126 on: May 15, 2019, 02:24:26 PM »
Hi John,

Not a bad guess, it's 150 cm x 78 cm so 4' 11" x 2' 6" ish. Yes, until I finish the station scenic side on t'other side (me mother was from Yorkshire) it'll be handy for train storage. I'm not going to think about future storage as it'll probably be years from now  :).

Hi AlexanderJesse,

I've no real intent on making the tracks look different. One line is for Spanish trains and the other for French. I did think about putting a extra rail on the wall side of the terminating track in the station so that there was maybe two separate Spanish gauge and French gauge branchlines meeting there. It would only be aesthetical as you wouldn't see the Spanish train on the French middle track but then the mainline would look wrong. Will have a think.

Thanks chaps and before I go, I noticed in the last pic that the platform looks far too high for Continental so I wanted to point out it's not. Could be the pic angle, lack of ballast on the edges (which will get done) or the fact it's not stuck down yet.

Just me being self critical and paranoid.

Cheers weave  :beers:
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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #127 on: May 15, 2019, 05:48:04 PM »
Looks fantastic Chris.
Id love to eat in El Gaitero sitting with a few wines watching the world go by.
And great idea to use pol mints as pots for the palm trees  :D
Itll be great fun to run rains but have fun with the build first.
Regards
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PS - my fingers are crossed for tomorrow evening.

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2019, 07:18:05 PM »
Thanks Martin,

Thinking about it, sucking on a polo mint until the letters disappear and then pressing it onto the platform would have been a hell of a lot easier  :D.

For those who don't know, Martin's 'my fingers are crossed for tomorrow evening' comment is not because, with the good wife in New York, it'll be my second night alone  :no: but it's a big football match for me  :worried: so thank you again Martin for your support.

Hi all,

I've still never done proper greenery or sand so questions will be asked in the near future.

The layout, like those before, will be set in the 1960's and '80s/90s (on different days). Although the line in France to the Spanish border wasn't electrified until the early '80s, the Spanish line to the French border was, I believe, way before that so potential catenary on both lines wouldn't look wrong in the '60s (the French track catenary could be for potential Izaro local electric trains with their own livery (matt black  ;), I can do that  :D:no:).

Need to start a bit of plaster bandaging too (not the football  :D, I'll watch that in the privacy of my own tears) and get ready for, hopefully, a Chelsea Girls visit in the Summer.

Hope to have some 'through runnings' pics next week. Prob just a few booze wagons trundling through and must think up some character names for the new little town.

Enough waffling.

Cheers weave  :beers:







« Last Edit: May 15, 2019, 09:37:45 PM by weave »

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2019, 09:06:22 PM »
 :beers: good to see the restaurant again!

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2019, 09:51:20 PM »
Hi Keith,

Thank you.

I think the tables and chairs that the restaurant needs will actually cost more than the whole of the rest of it put together.

I would like it to be a very popular restaurant as well but can foresee reverse bankruptcy with that business plan in model land.

Apparently I've woken up in the night sweating and screaming '100 unpainted Chinese figures'  :no:. I had difficulty painting the bathroom neatly.

The restaurant needs more work but I like it and think when it's embedded in proper scenery it'll look lovely.

Cheers weave  :beers:

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #131 on: May 15, 2019, 10:06:47 PM »
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
  Many thanks for the updates Chris, integrating French & Spanish tracks looking good & I'd love to join you for meal  :beers: in restaurant, nice work so far  :thumbsup:
       regards Derek.

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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #132 on: May 21, 2019, 12:48:36 AM »
Hi all,

Only one lot of pics as I'm trying to really, really sort out my rolling stock into some sort of manageable, coded, recorded, I know where that blimmin' coach is, aaaahhh! type of system...... And relax  :).

So, for the moment, to keep the thread going, 1963 and a special train was hired by various brewery owners from Bavaria and the Alsace region of France to discuss a potential beer festival in Izaro in late August / early September.

This would not interrupt the already planned Summer music festivals and the infrastructure would already be in place to hold the event.

While a couple of them alighted at San Cristofol (the capital) to negotiate terms with the powers that be, the four coaches, 2 CIWL sleepers from Strasbourg, 1 DSG sleeper from Munich and a DSG restaurant car (the Germans preferred their own cuisine on such a long trip) carried on to Sant Pau de Mar which had great promise for such a festival.

Sorry, just realised the time. To be continued with my usual not great pics.

Cheers weave  :beers:


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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #133 on: May 21, 2019, 09:29:16 AM »
Morning all,

The special train arrives at Sant Pau de Mar from Strasbourg behind an SNCF 150 X.....

IMG_1109 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr


IMG_1110 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

The two CIWL wagon-lits coaches from Strasbourg at the front....


IMG_1111 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

The brewers are still enjoying their DSG restaurant car breakfast of Broetchen (bread rolls) with jams, chocolate spread, cheeses, hams, salami, Schwarzwalder (Black Forest gateau) and honey washed down with their local beer.

IMG_1113 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

As it's early morning the station is deserted and the train has permission to wait a while so the foreign guests can finish their breakfast and then collect their luggage from their different sleeping cars. The Station Master, being rather disorganised, after a quick chat with the brewers, goes back to the station to arrange for luggage trolleys and taxis (thinking to himself that he'd preferred his churros and coffee, although a beer would have been nice  :)).....

IMG_1115 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr


IMG_1118 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

Note to self, think I'll get rid of the feet on the planter?

Luis, a young rail fan, quickly took this pic of the train from the cliff path on his way to school. He is hoping to take loads more pics when school breaks up and improve his photography skills no end...

IMG_1119 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

Not great but it's a start.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS. While the foreign guests were waiting for their taxis in the station building, this turned up in the car park. The Station Master was as baffled they were.....

IMG_1120 by Christopher Weaver, on Flickr

  :D Found it in a job lot box so potential for a race track nearby  :hmmm:. Fleischmann do German horse box wagons but whether British horses could or would travel that far in those days will have to be researched.










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Re: Principat d'Izaro (French/Spanish layout)
« Reply #134 on: May 21, 2019, 09:58:40 AM »
Lovely Chris.
You seem to be creating a feeling of space which is good and yes, Id remove the feet from the planter too.
Martin
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