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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2018, 07:34:37 PM »
OK for starters my book confirms the original allocation of TEE RGPs a nine to Noisy and two to Lyon Vaise.

Interestingly 2773 was reallocated to Vaise on 17/4/60 but then back to Noisy very quickly on 29/5/60. Could this be the 'swaps' we were talking about.

Noisy sets' early work was on Edelweiss, Arbalete, Parsifal, Ile de France and Mont Cenis. On the Arbalete the TEE unit was paired with an ordinary RGP1
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2018, 01:36:09 AM »
Some photos of the Mikadotrain/REE Modčles RGP in pre-production form in the AFAN blog for 26 mai 2018. Seductive.

http://afan.fr/blog/
« Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 01:39:43 AM by woodbury22uk »
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2018, 06:48:22 AM »
A short book review appears in the latest edition of Swiss Express, the quarterly magazine of the Swiss Railways Society, that may be of interest to TEE fans.

The book dates from May 2017 and is in large format 32cmm x 23cm and has 200 pages, and goes by the self-explanatory title of:

Trans Europ Express - Poster Art 1957-1990

I have found a webpage with good details - in German - and an excellent preview of some of the pages (remember to use the full screen view available ) here:

http://www.1815.ch/rottenverlag/shop/trans-europ-express-plakatkunst/

Warning: like all art books, it comes at a price - €79.00

The magazine review is limited to describing the contents, but does say that the text is in English, German and French and comprises three introductory essays and a foreword by four authors. The essays cover themes of "modernist poster design, marketing, national differences, and how railways respond to the threat from travel by road and air across national boundaries as Europe integrated after WW2...........  By far the most dominant essay theme however is the withering of the European ideal." The review points out that the majority of the book, some 140 pages of the 200, is dedicated to reproductions of the colour posters.

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« Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 06:58:30 AM by daffy, Reason: Add pic »
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #93 on: May 28, 2018, 01:18:57 AM »
Some photos of the Mikadotrain/REE Modčles RGP in pre-production form in the AFAN blog for 26 mai 2018. Seductive.

http://afan.fr/blog/


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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2019, 04:37:07 PM »
A short book review appears in the latest edition of Swiss Express, the quarterly magazine of the Swiss Railways Society, that may be of interest to TEE fans.

The book dates from May 2017 and is in large format 32cmm x 23cm and has 200 pages, and goes by the self-explanatory title of:

Trans Europ Express - Poster Art 1957-1990

I have found a webpage with good details - in German - and an excellent preview of some of the pages (remember to use the full screen view available ) here:

http://www.1815.ch/rottenverlag/shop/trans-europ-express-plakatkunst/

Warning: like all art books, it comes at a price - €79.00

The magazine review is limited to describing the contents, but does say that the text is in English, German and French and comprises three introductory essays and a foreword by four authors. The essays cover themes of "modernist poster design, marketing, national differences, and how railways respond to the threat from travel by road and air across national boundaries as Europe integrated after WW2...........  By far the most dominant essay theme however is the withering of the European ideal." The review points out that the majority of the book, some 140 pages of the 200, is dedicated to reproductions of the colour posters.

Cover:





Crikey that book looks amazing! Hope I find one on Ebay!!! Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2019, 10:11:09 PM »
Time to resurrect this thread. Finally, Mikadotrain/REE Modeles have now released their RGP 1. :claphappy: Only three years later than anticipated (these were planned for a release in 2016). :doh:




I couldn’t resist to preorder both TEE versions (NW-130 and -131) … ::) Well, I needed a second motor coach to hide that ugly driving trailer end. ;)




They look superb. The only minor complaint I have read is that you can see the motor through the windows and there is no interior in the motor coach. There are curtains on some windows, maybe it would have been better to have these curtains  behind more windows – but it really isn’t that obvious once the train is on the track, as you usually don’t look straight inside the carriage.




Motor coach and trailer are joined with a magnetic coupler which also connects the trailer electrically. However, the trailer does not pick up current, the electric connection is only for the trailer head- and taillights. The special coupler also prevents inserting or removing trailers to form 3- or 5-unit trains. As it is now only two 2-unit RGPs can be combined (the rear skirt can be removed and a NEM standard coupling inserted). The end door is removable and can be exchanged with a diaphragm (included in the parts bag) when running as a 4-unit train.
To form 3- or 5- unit trains a trailer would have to be outfitted on both ends with the magnetic coupling (which clips into a NEM pocket). However, this isn’t listed as a spare part.
Note also the separately applied MU cables and very fine handrails.




The RGP 1 was in TEE service from 1957 to 1965. So, after the DB VT11 from Roco and NS DE4/SBB RAm TEE from Minitrix we now have got the third of the four original TEE trainsets from 1957 at an acceptable price. The last one, the FS ALn TEE 442-448 is still missing in this price range (although there have been handmade versions from a few makers). Maybe something for the Austrian producer Jägerndorfer Collection (as it also passed through Austria on its way between Milan and Munich)?
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2019, 12:34:21 AM »

 The only minor complaint I have read is that you can see the motor through the windows and there is no interior in the motor coach.

Which is pretty pedantic given that (a) REE and Mikadotrains oughtn't to be chastised too much - they have now given French N gaugers seven absolutely superb ready to run new models including wagons, coaches and railcars. (b) the only previously available models of this type of unit have been rough and ready resin bodies. (c) surely it's far more important to have an efficient mechanism in the power car.

 As someone who has plugged away in French N since the late 1970s it's a far cry from the old days...
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #97 on: July 18, 2019, 07:27:01 AM »
Time to resurrect this thread. Finally, Mikadotrain/REE Modeles have now released their RGP 1. :claphappy: Only three years later than anticipated (these were planned for a release in 2016). :doh:



That's a really lovely train! Pity they don't also make an SBB Rae TEE as stylistically the two trains are rather similar.

Were you tempted for the pale blue version - I'd say red/cream was my favourite scheme.

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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #98 on: August 08, 2019, 12:26:52 AM »

That's a really lovely train! Pity they don't also make an SBB Rae TEE as stylistically the two trains are rather similar.

Were you tempted for the pale blue version - I'd say red/cream was my favourite scheme.

Matt

The SBB RAe TEE is made by Kato. They crop up occasionally 2nd hand.

The other (original)  RGP livery is green/cream, not pale blue

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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #99 on: September 27, 2019, 09:14:25 PM »
I have reviewed this topic and didn't find any post about the Catalan Talgo, that linked Barcelona and Geneva. It was the first Talgo train fitted with variable track width axis, so could run on Spanish and European tracks, thanks to the automatic manoeuvre carried out on special tracks at the border. Of course, traction in Spain should be replaced in the french border.

I'm glad to invite you to look at the only reproduction of this TEE (model by IBERTREN) hauled by the two usual locomotives used in Spain for that duty, and the by a common traction in the french lands. Coaches are only 1st. class.

This train have been the only Spanish TEE.



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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2019, 09:31:22 PM »
Thanks for that Biela, an excellent video addition to the TEE story. :thumbsup:
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #101 on: September 28, 2019, 02:33:34 PM »
This TEE that run from Zurich t Milan and back has been shown in the topic, but no images running. The video shows mine duriin a short ride.

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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #102 on: September 28, 2019, 02:53:29 PM »
Short but sweet video. :thumbsup:
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #103 on: September 28, 2019, 06:25:02 PM »
I can’t see the new video. ???



I have reviewed this topic and didn't find any post about the Catalan Talgo


Your videos are very nice, but this is not true. There have been seven posts in this thread before yours mentioning the Talgo, on pages 1 to 3.
I really like the sleek Renfe 3000 T diesels but didn’t want to spend €170 for a long time. When I finally weakened it was out of stock although I had looked for it only the day before … :'(




From the REE/Mikadotrain RGP there will be new versions including a new TEE version without the third headlight (also in the later silver or grey and orange livery):

NW-162 – RGP 1 red/beige, TEE logo, twin headlights and top corner lamps, epoch III, X 2776 + XR 7776, depot Noisy
NW-163 – RGP 1 red/beige, SNCF logo, twin headlights and top corner lamps, epoch III, X 2779 + XR 7779, depot Lyon-Vaise
From: http://afan.fr/blog/

The version with the SNCF roundel was not only used after the TEE but also in the early days of TEE service during summer 1957.
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Re: TEE trains and their reproduction in N scale
« Reply #104 on: September 29, 2019, 12:00:27 PM »
I can’t see the new video. ???
............................

Clicking on the square it appears to me. Nevertheless try this link:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34wb7x
« Last Edit: September 29, 2019, 12:55:12 PM by biela49 »

 

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