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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3195 on: April 19, 2019, 08:15:04 PM »
For yet another day, I didn’t visit the Train Shed again.  In fact, until mid-afternoon, I did very little except sit in an armchair with a blanket over me, feeling pretty miserable.  We did go out in the morning for a short while because I was running out of cough syrup and ibuprofen but, otherwise, I just tried to get some rest.  However, by mid-afternoon, I felt a little better and I joined Celia in the summer house for a cup of tea.  Then I began to cut the carpet, removing small sections at a time and rolling them up for disposal.  I did the same with the underlay.  By the time I needed to prepare a pasta for tea, I had completed the whole of one side of the room, which means tomorrow, I will start by removing the rolls of carpet and underlay.  Then we will have to move all the furniture from the other side of the sitting room to the bare boards so that I can repeat the process on the other side of the room.  Before we move the furniture, I will probably put up the new curtain poles, which have to be fitted to the wall along the bare boards side.

Also tomorrow, I will definitely make time for a Train Shed session.  I really need a bit of operating therapy.  But I have still got one video session ready for you, so I uploaded it to YouTube after tea.

 


In this little video, there is no ‘big’ highlight, but just some workhorse train movements.  We start with panier tank 6713 leaving the Shipton run-around and emerging from the branch portal of Oakwood Tunnel.  While it is in Black Horse Cutting, panier tank 6417 starts up from UP Loop 8 and eventually emerges from Gatsby tunnel on its way to Platform 2 at Marton Hinmarche.  As 6713 slows to stop at the goods end of Platform 4, Ditcheat Manor sets off from DOWN Loop 16 and we see it emerge from Oakwood Tunnel, arriving at Platform 3 from Worcester.  4571 runs around its single coach in the Shipton run-around and then the three trains set off again, Ditcheat Manor to Aylesbury, 6417 to Evenbury and 6713 to Norton.

Hopefully, there will be more news from the Train Shed tomorrow.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3196 on: April 20, 2019, 09:18:51 PM »
Today, I’m ashamed to say, we went into Hessle by car.  I really didn’t feel like walking there and back.  After we returned, we had coffee and then I removed all the carpet that I had taken up yesterday.  This is the result.  The armchair was replaced so that I would have somewhere to sit.


Then I set about fixing the new curtain poles.  The first, across the bay window, was not too much of a problem because I was able to use two of the end support plugs for the new supports and simply drill new holes for the others.  By doing that, I was able to avoid the concrete lintel.  However, the second one was much more trouble.  A batten had been fixed to avoid the lintel, but it was not thick enough for the long screws that came with the poles.  After several attempts to overcome the problem. I eventually cut a couple of pieces of wood to screw onto the batten.  Unfortunately, the only available wood was hard wood, which meant a lot of drilling to ensure that the holes were wide enough for the screws, but not too wide for the threads to bite.  By the middle of the afternoon, I managed to finish both poles.


After clearing up, I had an operating session in the Train Shed.  I managed to film the next video and another besides.  It took quite a bit of editing to prepare the next video, but here it is.

 


This little video sees Forthampton Grange bring in its passenger train, which started from Paddington and will eventually terminate at Herford Barrs Court.  Before it arrives at 1629, 5572 stops at Platform 4 with a branch passenger from Norton and then 80119 arrives at Platform 3 with a local passenger from Evenbury, originating from Worcester Shrub Hill.  While all three trains await to depart, 6713 runs around the branch goods in the Norton run-around.  Then, at 1631, Forthampton Grange is off again, next stop Worcester.  After that, 80119 departs for Kingly on its way to Aylesbury and, finally, 5572 takes its little train away to Shipton.

Tomorrow, I will move all the furniture across to the bare boards and start cutting up the rest of the carpet.  I may need more Train Shed therapy.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3197 on: April 21, 2019, 07:54:45 PM »
Disaster

More of which later.  Today began with moving all the furniture from the other side of the sitting room and then cut up all the carpet on that side.  After I disposed of the carpet, I repeated the task for the underlay.  That took the whole of the morning and some of the afternoon.  I decided I would have a bit of a rest in the afternoon, before going to the Train Shed for an operational session and some filming.  That was when disaster struck.

I opened the Train Shed and it was quite warm in there, about 28C, which isn’t unusual in the Summer.  But when I switched on the power, the controller indicated a short circuit.  I switched off and check the resistance between the rails with my meter.  Everywhere on the track, it measure less than 2Ω.  I started to disconnect all the DCC bus connectors, but with no luck.  In the end,every board was isolated, but every board still read short circuit between the rails.  This is speaks volumes for the effectiveness of the Peco rail joiners in maintaining continuity.

The resistance at the UP loop end seemed a little higher than at the DOWN loop end, so I began to remove droppers from the loops in the DOWN loops.  As each was removed, that section became isolated, except for Loops 17 and 18, which are connected by one of the new Unifrog points and, hence, connected through by non-insulated joiners.  This may be a shortcoming of the Unifrog points.

In the end, I ran out of time and I will have to continue tomorrow.  Fortunately, I have finished all the furniture and carpet tasks, so I can spend all day tomorrow tracking down the problem.  However, I did get time to upload the next video to YouTube.

 


The central focus of this video is 92006 on its return journey to Grimsby to collect another trainload of fish.  I storms out of Oakwood Tunnel, having left Bristol Midland road goods depot at 1530.  It is due to arrive at Grimsby docks some four hours later.

Tomorrow I will hunt the Snark.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3198 on: April 21, 2019, 08:18:16 PM »
Bad luck, Laurence.

Maybe worth going Snark hunting early-ish tomorrow when it is cooler.  Maybe the high temperature has caused a bit of rogue expansion.

Thank you for another enjoyable film.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3199 on: April 21, 2019, 10:36:52 PM »
My loft is about the same temp has your shed, a touch too warm. My layout is still in strip down mode for the wiring I am doing so I can not check to see if mine will run, good luck with your fault finding.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3200 on: April 21, 2019, 10:51:33 PM »
only 28c? my loft got up to 36c yesterday and that is a long way from the record...

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3201 on: April 22, 2019, 12:03:35 AM »
Yes my loft got too unbelievable temps last year, can not remember what but it was to hot to work in. What I can not understand is mine is supposed to be insulated, not very good by the look of it. Having said that when I tried to run trains last year I had no problems, I must have made the gaps big enough inadvertantly.....lol
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3202 on: April 22, 2019, 04:30:18 PM »
Disaster

Tomorrow I will hunt the Snark.

My last Snark was caused by the wire actuator on a Tortoise motor coming adrift from the tie bar of the point. It caused me to completely redo the underboard wiring to make it sectional and easier to catch the next Snark that comes along. The only saving grace was that I am using Wago Lever Nuts (or the best thing since sliced bread) to make all my connections, so rewiring is trivial, as the only tools needed are a low chair and a pair of wire strippers.

Good luck with the Snark.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3203 on: April 22, 2019, 08:43:34 PM »
The Snark Hunt

I spent the whole of the morning and some of the afternoon on the snark hunt.  I started by removing all the droppers from the DOWN loops, but there was still a short circuit.  I did not seem to be able to get rid of the supply to the DCC bus, despite all the connectors being disconnected.  I disconnected all the droppers on the Black Horse Cutting board, but it was still no use.  In the end, I found that removing the first set of droppers on the right hand station board did the trick. 

The problem had been that they were feeding the track and that was, in turn, feeding all the tracks on the DOWN loops board, which were feeding back to the DCC bus.  I was now able to reconnect all the bus connectors.  Having got this far, I found that there were still shorts measured between tracks, none of which were connected by droppers.  With nothing else to disconnect, I disconnected the feeds to the Cobalt point motors and that stopped the rot.  By now it was time for coffee.  After coffee, I persevered and found that swapping the supply polarity to three Cobalts on the first board and one on the second cured the problem, although this turned out to be only a temporary fix.  Once I started to reconnect the feeds, the problem recurred.  So I returned to the basic state again and resolved to check the frog polarity of every point on the layout against a pair of reference voltages, one to the ‘red’ bus and one to the ‘black’ bus.

I found some more errors on the DOWN loops which I supposed had not shown up before because to the relative switching positions of adjacent points.  But once I had finished checking the frog polarity of both switch positions of all 46 points, I was happy that the fault could never occur again.  Once everything was reconnected, I was in a position to start a running session. 

The running session was a bit fraught, because locos were reluctant to start smoothly, possible because of the gap in running, compounded by the temperature in the Train Shed.  However, I got through the next sub-cycle only to find that 5572 was running into the wrong branch of the Norton run-around.  I tried changing the points, but that point would not change.  We’ve been here before.  It took a could of attempts to reprogram the point but, in the end, it all worked again.  I completed the next two sub-cycles, so I now have some more material to edit into new videos.  I think that, when this timetable run is complete, I will clean all the tracks again and, possibly, give some of the locos the IPA and ‘running-in’ treatment.

Fortunately, I already had some more video material and was able to edit it into a watchable form without too much trouble.

 


This little video concludes the third quarter of the operational timetable.  First you see 6713 start from the Norton run-around and arrive at the goods end of Platform 4 at 1820.  Then, immediately after, Ditcheat Manor arrives at Platform 2 with a parcels train and 6417 stops at Platform 3 with a local from Evenbury.  While the trains are waiting in the station, 4571 runs around its single coach in the Norton run-around and then the three train go on their separate ways, Ditcheat Manor to Worcester, 6417 to Kingly and 6713 to Shipton.

Tomorrow, we are off to York to buy some more curtains and other bits and pieces, so I will have a rest from Train Shed duties.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3204 on: April 23, 2019, 07:15:06 PM »
Today, we went to York as planned.  I checked the Train Shed before we went, but didn’t spend any time there because I wanted to get on with editing the video material I already have.  However, I did have time to set up the routes for the next session to confirm that everything was still ‘tickety boo’ as John would say. 

I managed to create the next video sequence before we went.  I had to use one of two ‘library’ clips that I had filmed in earlier sessions, so you may notice the odd inconsistency in the background.

 



This little video begins the last ‘day’ of the operational timetable.  Jubilee Class 45572 ‘Eire’ brings in the early morning train from Nottingham Midland, via Leicester London Road, Coventry and Leamington Spa General, arriving at Platform 3 at 0729.  Before it arrives, Small Prairie 5572 stops at Platform 4 with a branch passenger from Shipton and then Standard Class 2-6-4T 80119 brings in a local passenger to Platform 2.  While the trains are in the station Panier Tank 6713 runs around the branch goods in the Shipton loops before Eire sets off for Aylesbury, going forward to London Marylebone, arriving at 0823.  After that, 80119 departs for Evenbury and 5572 leaves for Norton.

I intended to have another filming session after we returned, but I found that the battery on my camera was nearly flat, so I put it on charge instead and carried on with video editing.  I hope to film some more sequences in the morning.
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« Reply #3205 on: April 24, 2019, 06:48:29 PM »
Back Story (continued)
Wednesday April 24th 1959

Baron Tiverton has been very impressed with the reports he has heard of the Fat Controller, William Wickham’s effect on the railways in the Alternative Cornwall.  As a result, he has brought in the Thin Controller, a certain Brendan Beanpole.  Brendan’s career on the railways began at Bletchely MPD, when it was 2B, part of the Rugby group of MPDs.  However, after Nationalisation, it became 4A and subsequently 1E as part of the Willesden Group of MPDs.  By this time, Brendan had established a reputation as a thorough and methodical individual whose judgement was never questioned.  While in the Willesden Group he spent some time at Camden Roundhouse, where he came into regular contact with the big Stanier Pacifics.  He subsequently transferred to Crewe works and, later, spent some time at Swindon, where he became familiar with the ex-GWR practices there.

By the time Baron Tiverton was establishing the Aylesbury and Worcester as an independent arm of British Railways, Brendan stood out as the ideal candidate to become its controller and soon became known as the Thin Controller on account of his height and lean looks.  Strangely, there are no currently available photographs of the Thin Controller, partly because he likes to operate in the background and let others steal the limelight.  However, it is perfectly possible that he may creep into the odd photograph at some time in the future.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #3206 on: April 24, 2019, 07:36:15 PM »
For those of you who don’t know, our house is called Wisteria Cottage.


Which is an excuse to show a couple of seasonal pictures.  Here’s one from the back garden,


And here’s one from the driveway, looking towards the wall that divides us from the lane outside.


In the end, I did manage quite a long operating session in the Train Shed, although it was not all sweetness and light.  5572 just would not cooperate in the Norton run-around and I was forced to give it the IPA treatment, put in a loop on the main and set its acceleration to zero.  After a two or three laps, it was fine on the main, but still wouldn’t cooperate in the run-around.  I even set its acceleration back to zero, but it just wouldn’t run at low speed.  I tried cleaning the track, all to no avail.  In the end, I had to frig it to get it round and it worked after a fashion.  It’s strange that neither of the other branch locos gave any trouble in that run-around.  5572 wouldn’t even run properly in the Shipton loops.  Two or three weeks ago it ran as good as gold everywhere.  But it’s been through these phases before and then miraculously recovered.  So, here’s hoping.

4571 had a couple of hiatuses in the run-arounds, but nothing to write home about.  Also, 80119 struggled to re-start from Platform 3 as did 46443, but they then continued without further problems.  All in all, I managed to get three sub-cycles ‘in the can’, so I should have plenty to keep me occupied with the video editor.

I also managed to upload the next video to YouTube.

 


This little video sees the passage of the famous fish train across the lines of the Aylesbury and Worcester.  The ‘Thin Controller’, Brendan Beanpole, regards this as his train of shortest residence on the line, joining from the Great Central and leaving via a link to the old GWR route from Stratford to Cheltenham, while travelling at the maximum permitted speed for an express freight train over this line of 50mph.  The train rushes through the station at about 0830, having left Grimsby docks some two hours before and will arrive at the goods depot at Bristol Midland Road in a further two hours.  Before it passes through, 4571 brings its single coach from Norton and 46443 brings a local passenger train from Evenbury.

As an aside, once the fish train arrives at Bristol Midland Road goods depot, it is split up and individual vans are dispatched to towns and villages around the West Country and South Wales.  While this is going on, empty vans are marshalled into a return train, ready for transportation back to Grimsby.
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« Reply #3207 on: April 24, 2019, 09:09:49 PM »
I think Wisteria is my favorite flower - competing with the Iris.

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« Reply #3208 on: April 25, 2019, 07:27:44 PM »
Today, the joiner finally arrived to fit the oak flooring to the sitting room.  That meant one of us had to stay in the house in case he needed anything (or any information).  So there was no Train Shed session today.  However, I had filmed three video sequences yesterday and so I stayed in the house and spent the time editing the videos and, by the time the joiner had finished for the day, I had edited all three of them.  I still have another one in the bag from a previous session as well, so here it is.

 


After a long stop at the Marton Hinmarche goods depot, J26, 65761, sets off with the pick-up goods, heading for Evenbury on its way to Worcester.  Before it is cleared to depart, Panier Tank 6713 arrives at the goods end of Platform 4 with the branch goods from Shipton.  Then Ditcheat Manor arrives at Platform 2 with the parcels train from Worcester.  After that, we see Small Prairie 4571 run around its single coach in the Shipton loops.  Then 65761 negotiates the crossover onto the DOWN main and slowly makes its way through Black Horse Cutting and into Oakwood Tunnel.  While it is on its way, Ditcheat Manor departs for Aylesbury and then 6713 pulls away on its journey to Shipton.

Tomorrow, I hope to be able to do some more filming because I want to get this sequence of videos finished so that I can clean the track and concentrate on running-in some of the locos.  Then I will have another concerted effort at some more scenic work.
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« Reply #3209 on: April 26, 2019, 06:33:56 PM »
There were a lot of things that kept me away from the Train Shed today.  I started off by setting about my weekly tasks, particularly the car, because I had skipped it last week owing to the fact that I was feeling so poorly.  I seem to be gradually improving, but now Celia has gone down with something, so we’re not out of the woods yet.  After that, I went off to J Sainsbury, leaving Celia to baby-mind the joiner.  Then I had the castor problem with the sitting room furniture.  We have always had large carpet gliders on the furniture but, for a solid wood floor, they would be lethal so I needed to investigate the fixings for replacement castors. 

The carpet gliders have plastic, threaded fixings and I couldn’t be sure of the size of the threads.  In the end, I found M10 threaded castors on line, but I needed to check the size of the existing threads and I didn’t have any M10 nuts in the house, although looking back, I’m sure that I have some in the Train Shed.  I also needed to get hold of a wood-effect threshold for the sitting room doorway, so I had a trip to B&Q to buy some nuts and a threshold.  When I returned, I had to give the joiner a hand to move the furniture from one side of the sitting room to the other, so that he could continue his work.

Then there was work to be done in the greenhouse.  Celia has finished potting up all the Sungold tomatoes into their large tomato pots and I needed to put up the hooks and canes for their ropes.  By twisting the plant stem around a rope as it grows, the plant will support itself on through the tension in the rope.



After a cup of tea, I did eventually get down to the Train Shed and shot the next video sequence.  It has still to be edited, but here’s one of the ones I edited yesterday.

 


Today’s little video sees the arrival, at Platform 2, of Cranmore Hall with the 0927 from Paddington, calling at Aylesbury.  After a brief stop, it sets off for Worcester Shrub Hill and thence on to Hereford Barrs court, arriving at 1155.  At the beginning of the video we see Small Prairie, 5572, start from the Norton run-around and arrive at Platform 4, followed by Standard 2-6-4T, 80119, which arrives at Platform 3 shortly afterwards with the 0955 from Worcester Shrub Hill, calling at Trubshore and Evenbury.  Panier Tank 6713 runs around its branch goods in the Norton run-around before Cranmore Hall sets off again, followed by 80119 going on to Aylesbury, calling at Kingly and Longbury, arriving at Aylesbury at 1102.  After 80119 departs, 5572 sets off for Shipton.

There’s more work to be done in the garden but, with any luck, I’ll be able to get down to the Train Shed again tomorrow.
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