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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2520 on: July 22, 2018, 08:31:16 AM »
Laurence

I fully appreciate how you find that trimming your high hedge is hard work. We have a row of Photinia Robusta plants along our back fence that need to be trimmed as a hedge to 3 m height. This 'hedge' grows like mad and needs a hair cut twice a year. To tackle our hedge, we use a platform ladder for elevation and a regular hedge trimmer to cut across the top and down the sides.

My photos have come through fine even though from time to time I do get the little box with an x in it from various posters.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2521 on: July 22, 2018, 09:12:10 AM »
Thanks, Webbo.  If you look back to post number 2497 you can see the platform that I use for the really difficult bit.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2522 on: July 22, 2018, 02:27:05 PM »
The Wadebridge Yardmaster has confirmed the departure (ex-Cant Cove, the previous day) of early ex-GWR pannier tank No. 6713 on the Sunday morning for its long journey to the SE Midlands and its new home at Marton Hinmarche.


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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2523 on: July 22, 2018, 02:41:55 PM »
Thankyou Chris.  The management of the Aylesbury and Worcester Operational Department look forward to receiving their new acquisition in due course, when it will be put to use on branch goods duties.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2524 on: July 22, 2018, 09:53:11 PM »
This morning we had only a short walk before going off to one of our favourite garden centres for coffee and to buy some replacement garden tools.  Before that, I ran the first cycle (1a/b/c) of the new timetable.  80119 required a small prod to get it started from the UP loops and the push-me-pull-you was, as anticipated, somewhat intermittent.  However, when it arrived at Platform 4, the cattle truck was still a problem, so I have removed it from the branch goods for now. 

While we were at the garden centre, we bought the best quality (that we could find) secateurs, shears and loppers.  Our old loppers were bought by Celia at a car boot more than twenty years ago and could do with a holiday.  When we returned, I prepared to empty compost Bin 2 into Bin 3.  After a bit to eat, I toiled away in the (very) hot Sun.  I needed to empty Bin 2 because I need to use it for my platform to cut the high hedge behind it.  Hereísa  picture of the compost bins once I had emptied Bin 2.



You can see the high hedge behind the compost bins.  To give you some idea of scale, the compost bins are four feet high.  Then I had a lot of picking to do: peas, runner beans, climbing beans, borlotti beans and raspberries, followed by a cup of tea.

After a cup of tea, I had another brief session in the train shed, where the temperature had reach 29.6C, despite having the door and windows open.  In fact the maximum recorded air temperature today was 29.9C (at 1715!), despite the local BBC weather forecast predicting 23C.  So it was the second hottest day of the year.  No wonder I needed a rest in the cool after the compost bin task!  In the Train Shed, I ran the next cycle (2a/b/c), largely without incident apart from the push-me-pull-you and 64960 requiring several prods, which might be temperature related.  Again, Iíll have t keep an eye on it.  I treated the two pannier tanks to the same IPA treatment and left them overnight in the loco cradle.



After that, there was a lot of bean slicing and de-podding to do, but I decided to give the Train Shed a rest for the evening.  Tomorrow, we are off to see our MS friends in Solihull, so there may not be too much to report.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2525 on: July 23, 2018, 05:58:05 PM »
Well, here we are in Solihull. Before we left I managed to run the next timetable cycle (3a/b/c). I had forgotten to reset the turnout into the goods loop when I finished yesterday, so 80119 nearly ran into the back of the local pickup goods waiting at the goods platform. Otherwise, it was quite a good session. The push-me-pull-you needed some encouragement to start from the Shipton loops, but after that it behaved well enough. No pictures today but more news tomorrow, I hope.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2526 on: July 24, 2018, 08:26:26 PM »
We returned home shortly after midday.  After the horrors of the M1 yesterday, with road works in the Nottingham area causing slow progress and long queues, we decided to return home by our favourite road, the M68/A46/A15.  We had a lovely journey and thoroughly enjoyed the drive.  But of course, I didnít get my train running fix first thing.  So, in the afternoon, I ran the next cycle of the timetable (4a/b/c) and discovered some flaws in it.  Or, at least, there was one flaw in it and another in the routes definitions, which I should have changed when I introduced the new timetable. 

The timetable error was simply that I had failed to change the loco number in Part b from5 to 11.  This meant that I started to run 92006 with the fish train, which soon came unstuck (obviously not enough fish glue) at the first set of points, because the route had been set for Royal Ulster Rifleman.  I was able to correct that easily, but the next error came at the end of Part b, when 46443 ran into the back of the parcels train in Loop 17.  This was because I had failed to reset the route for the parcels train.  It should have been parked in Loop 18.  So I had to redefine its routes (UP and DOWN) so that it would be enter and depart from Loop 18.  Of course, I then had to shuffle it out of Loop 17 and reverse it into Loop 18 before I could run it with the correct route definitions.

Later still, I went back to the Train Shed and made some video sequences of the two small prairies running on the branch line.  First you see 5572 making its run from Shipton to Norton with the ĎBí set and then 4571 with its solitary suburban brake second.  Here they are. 

 


Unfortunately it takes quite a long time to assemble the finished video, export it and upload it, so I didnít get time for anything else in the Train Shed.  Tomorrow, I will continue to test the new timetable, hoping that the management of the Aylesbury and Worcester Operational Departmentís newly acquired 6713 arrives soon.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2527 on: July 25, 2018, 06:36:21 PM »
I had a bit of a different order of doing things today.  We decided that we would not go to the gym so that we could work outside while the conditions were still relatively cool (if thatís the right word).  So I didnít have an early shift in the Train Shed.  Instead, I erected my tower and began to cut the side hedge in the back garden.  I had always intended to reduce the height of it because it is such a problem.  The main problem is that I canít erect the tower to its full height because it has to fit in one of the compost bins and the width restriction prevents me from extending the legs, because they splay out at an angle.  So I can only raise the platform to about five feet above the ground.  Now the hedge is almost four metres high so, even with a long-arm hedge trimmer, it is impossible difficult to reach right across the top. 

After struggling on for a short while, I made an executive decision to reduce the height there and then.  So I started with an ordinary hedge trimmer and made an incursion into the hedge.  Now itís partly box and, along the highest part, mainly beech, so I soon ran into trunks and branches that were too large to cut with a hedge trimmer.  Fortunately, I am armed with an array of rather vicious tools, a 4m extending pole saw, an extending pruner, a pair of anvil loppers with extending handles and the long-arm hedge trimmer.



I worked away for about four hours and made considerable inroads into the task.  But it will take at least another day.  Here you can get some idea the size of the task still to be completed.



After that, I needed a bit of a rest before getting down to the Train Shed.  At least I had the forethought to open it all up first thing before I started on the hedge, so it didnít get as hot as on previous days.  I ran the next cycle (5a/b/c) and then thought about the couplings.  I have fitted two brake vans with Easy-Shunt couplings and the Push-Me-Pull-You is all fitted and ready to go. 



The sad thing is that it doesnít require any running around.  But when 6713 arrives, I will fit it with Easy-Shunt couplings and then I need to install the Dapol magnets in the branch loops.  I may make a start on that tomorrow, although I will have to buy some more magnets because one half of the broken one managed to vanish into thin air.

I have also looked at the instructions on this forum for converting Farish bogie couplings to NEM pockets, so that will be another project to allow the branch passenger locos to run around their trains.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2528 on: July 26, 2018, 07:58:46 PM »
Well, we are having some disruptive weather at the moment.  Not that the weather itself is disruptive, but it is causing some disruption to our normal patterns of behaviour.  We heard on the radio this morning that if you want to cool off you should go for a walk in Sainsburyís.  Because of our unusual (for us) behaviour patterns we actually went to J Sainsbury first thing this morning and, as usual, it was freezing in there.  I usually wear a body warmer or a jacket to go in because it is so cold, but today, I took the unwise decision to go just in my short-sleeved shirt.  Brrrrrr! 

But before we went, I did manage my early morning operating session in the Train Shed and ran the next timetable cycle (6a/b/c).  A couple of locos needed the slightest of nudges to get them started, but otherwise ran OK.  However, J39 64960, with the local pickup goods train performed absolutely appallingly.  First it would not start or kept stalling.  I removed its acceleration (set to zero) and it was almost as bad.  It kept, jerking, stopping and starting or stalling all the way round.  I will have to have another go at it with the IPA.

Then it was back to hedge cutting again.  I did another three hours and managed to finish the next section, so there is now only one big section to go, plus a fair amount of trimming along the rest where it isnít too high at the moment.  I had hoped to get back to the Train Shed again to work on installing the magnets, but we decided to go out later on in the afternoon and so everything was shut up.  Itís a good job we did close everything up because the thundery weather arrived on our way back.  I had forgotten to put the patio umbrella down before we went, but there were only a few spots of rain before we arrived home, so I was able to get it down before the rain proper came.  It only came in fits and starts but, hopefully, I thought, we would get enough to obviate the need to water tonight (apart from the greenhouse).  By 18:30 the Met Office weather warning was still only for thundery showers from 14:00 tomorrow, but the BBC weather site is predicting thunder all night and all day tomorrow.

Unfortunately, by 19:30 the thundery weather had all passed us by, leaving us with a miserly total of 1.4mm of rain.  So I will have to water again tonight after all.  I suspect I wonít be able to spend another session in the Train Shed tonight, but letís hope for a more fruitful day tomorrow.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2529 on: July 27, 2018, 06:12:31 AM »
I fully appreciate your trials and tribulations with your hedge Laurence.

Best thing we did with ours was to decrease its thickness (& height) so reaching across the top became a lot easier. Looked pretty grim to begin with, but the foliage soon filled out so one can't see through it. My toolbox now includes a small petrol powered chain saw with a bar only 10" long. Cuts through logs, makes a lot of noise, and you can hold it at arm's length with one hand - I love it! Great for 'pruning' too.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2530 on: July 27, 2018, 08:18:24 PM »
Friday is the day I carry out my domestic chores.  As we had a sharp shower at breakfast time, I decided to stay in the house and carry out as many as I could.  When it had cleared up and dried up, I tended the tomatoes (stringing and side shoot removal) and tied up the sweet corn stalks to their respective canes, not wanting any severe winds from the bottom of thunder clouds to flatten them.  Thunder clouds are associated with strong upward thermals around their peripheries, but extreme down draughts from their centres.  When the downdrafts approach the ground, they fan out in all directions, sometimes at high velocity.  Thatís why there is often a strong wind from the direction of an approaching storm. 

After that initial garden work, I repaired to the Train Shed and ran the next timetable cycle (7a/b/c).  Before I started, I gave 64960 a good application of IPA on its driver tyres and down the inside of the drivers to (hopefully) clean the pickups.  Once the timetable running was over, I set up the routes so that 64960 could run a roundy to see if the IPA could be worked in.  At first, there was a problem.  It kept slowing and making a noise like derailed flanges running on the sleepers.  So I removed its train and tried running it alone.  All seemed to work really well.

After that, it was time for coffee before I set about the hedge once more.  Whilst working on the hedge, I took a few timeouts to check on 64960.  It ran so well that I reinstated the acceleration.  It still ran well so, at a subsequent timeout, I added its train again.  After a couple of hours, I had made good progress with the hedge as you can see here.



I just have some outcrops of yew to deal with (not the tall leylanii you can see between them).



Later I went back to the Train Shed, where 64960 was still going strong.  It was then that I noticed a rather disconcerting problem.  The drivers kept locking so the motion remained stationary for considerable periods.

 


At first, I thought the valve gear was contacting the steps in front of the link motion so I eased the steps forward a little with tweezers.  Then I tried a few spots of Dapol oil on the motion, but to no effect.  So I tried a few spots on the wheel bearings, again to no effect.  I even tried running it at high speed, but still without success.  I noticed that a little pressure on the boiler overcame the problem so I tried a piece of lead as a weight.

 


There was some improvement, but it was still not perfect.  However, at least it now ran smoothly (albeit with the drivers not rotating some of the time).  It is all a bit of a mystery.  It will run again tomorrow as part of the timetable. 

We have had more thundery rain this evening, so at least I donít have to do any watering.  The greenhouse can wait until the morning.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2531 on: July 27, 2018, 08:41:52 PM »
Probably not a mystery, Laurence and Alan @Dr Al will, hopefully, give you the solution.  It is adhesive weight versus rolling resistance, I think.  My Union Mills locomotives (also tender drive) don't do this.  But I recall a visit to Pecorama when a lovely Peco 'Twenty-Two' ran round the Seaton Junction layout with its driving wheels locked.

As you say, the Graham Farish 'J39' has a mechanical lubricator drive which might slightly increase resistance.  I am given to understand that over-lubrication (perhaps by the manufacturer) can be the cause of this locking-up.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2532 on: July 27, 2018, 09:35:57 PM »
I know Dr Al is not a fan of this practice, but I do put the tiniest drop of light oil onto the motion of steam locos (particularly tender drive) and have not had any lock ups since. In the case of the J39 I would apply a drop of oil on a pinhead to where the connecting rod fits into the driving wheels as possibly, just possibly there is too much friction between the connecting rod and the hole it is seated in.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2533 on: July 27, 2018, 09:50:40 PM »
Check that the lubricator drive isn't catching on the footplate steps and causing this - its crank shouldn't be significantly offset from the main axle position. On your first video it always sticks when these are at their closest together position - but it's impossible to see if they actually clash. I'd bet they are.

Otherwise the most likely reason is a bent coupling rod, or out of whack quartering, but these would need to be fairly out to cause this - it's a slightly odd one given the J39 has minimal valve gear - that's why I'd suspect the lubricator drive first.

I'd say that these should run free without oil - particularly the simple valve gear here - the risk of oiling is that you end up with this attracting dust and dirt, and in some cases actually causing excess wear. I've seen *so many* more models that don't run right or are damaged because of over-oiling than because of under-oiling.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2534 on: July 28, 2018, 06:50:32 AM »
Thanks Al.  I'll try and clean off any excess oil. It's been running well for months and has only played up in the last couple of weeks.  I wonder if the heat (temperatures of up to 29C) could have caused the steps to twist.  I did try to ease them forward a bit with tweezers, but I'll have another check.
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