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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2415 on: June 23, 2018, 07:31:49 AM »
Morning Laurence,

So to clear this up you were expecting hoards to be descending by hordes of people but only one person turned up with only one hoard and hopefully no one was whored  :D

Sorry, I can't remember the name of the poem but the first line is 'I'll get me coat'






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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2416 on: June 23, 2018, 07:43:54 AM »
It was only one person, but the preparations were, as usual, for a whole platoon.   :offtopicsign:
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2417 on: June 23, 2018, 09:33:31 PM »
There was really good news today.  Swindon Works have been working flat out and the conversions were finished late last night.  They should be dispatched shortly and could be running on the branch line within a few days. 

First thing this morning, I cleaned the entry points to the UP loops.  Then, with some difficulty, I managed to extract Point 14 from the board.  I could not, at first, pull the frog feeder up through the hole in the board.  When I investigated, I found that the dropper was trapped between the board and the supporting cross member.  So I had to cut it either side of the cross member and I will have to fit a single chocolate block connector when I reconnect the frog of the replacement point.  I will also have to cut back one sleeper on the incoming short track section so that I can fit sliding rail joiners when I replace it.

While I was under the boards, I noticed that the frog dropper to Point 12 was broken, so I will need to do a bit of remedial work there.  I haven’t noticed any running problems with Point 12, but there could be issues in the future if the problem is not dealt with.

Later, I managed another session in the Train Shed and set about the remedial work.  First, I managed to tin the end of the broken wire protruding through the baseboard and solder the dropper back on to it.  Then I began work on Point 14.  Here it is after removal.



Then I cut back one sleeper off the short section and filed the burrs off the bottoms of the rails, to allow the rail joiners to slide all the way along onto the ends of the rails.  I had intended to replace all the Peco IRJs with Fleischmann ones, but I couldn’t get one of them into the end of Track 6 and so I had to use the Peco one there.  The replacement point was a second hand one that I had removed when I installed some curved points.  When I had roughly fixed the point into place I connected the frog dropper and tested it.  However, I could not get it to change cleanly without a short circuit in one direction or the other.  So I started to remove the latch spring but, at that point, one of the point blades came away from the tie bar and I was back to square one.

This time I took a brand new point out of its packet and cut off the extension sleepers, paring back the flashing, where necessary.  Before I installed it, I removed the spring from the underside, which puts zero stress on the tie bar.  Then I found that the dropper had broken at the frog of the original point, so I had to make a new one.  So far, so good.  I was able to complete the installation and use a couple of track pins on the adjoining tracks to fix it in place.  This time, when I tested it, everything worked well.  Finally, I used 6417 to test both branches and the test was a complete success.



After the test, I cleaned the point and adjacent track ready for a complete lean of all the UP loops tomorrow.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2418 on: June 23, 2018, 09:43:19 PM »
Phew :sweat:
Sounds like a day and a half, Laurence!

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2419 on: June 24, 2018, 06:34:25 AM »
Phew :sweat:
Sounds like a day and a half, Laurence!
It wasn't as bad as it sounds and I'm really looking forward to the arrival of the two 45XX locos.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2420 on: June 24, 2018, 06:56:25 PM »
First thing this morning, I cleaned all the tracks in the UP loops and moved all the locos from the station to the UP loops.  Then I began moving the trains out of the DOWN loops.  However, I had a real problem when I found that each time I selected Loco 2 (46443) to decelerate it in the UP loops it didn’t respond.  I put it on the mainline in the station, but it continued to try and run at full tilt.  At that point, I noticed that when I selected Loco 2, it was selected as a consist (double header).  This was puzzling.  I put it on the programming track and read its ID, which was 2 as expected.  I reprogrammed it to Loco 22 and it then behaved OK.  But when I set it back to Loco 2 again, I had the same result.  It was a puzzle, but by then it was time to take our visitor into old Hull for the Fish Walk.

For those not familiar with the Hull Fish Walk, you can find a little more about it here https://www.andrewswalks.co.uk/hull-fish-trail2.html.  There are 41 fish sculptures etched, moulded or otherwise inserted into the pavement.  The walk is about two miles long, but you inevitably walk further, going backwards and forwards looking for some of them.  They are all life size, so the shrimp takes quite a bit of finding and the shark as fairly large.  With a stop for coffee, the walk took nearly three hours by the time we had found them all.  Given that we have done it twice before, I think a stranger to Hull might take quite a lot longer.  There are clues in that all the fish point in the direction of the next sculpture, except some of the herrings are red herrings.

Later this afternoon, I puzzled once more with 46443.  I had several goes at programming and reprogramming the decoder and I tired deleting Consist 2 several times, but it kept coming back and I just couldn’t run 46443 as Loco 2.  The I had a brain wave.  I deleted Consist 2 from the memory stack of the walkaround.  That did the trick.  After that, I could select Loco 2 as a single loco and all was well.  In the end, I was able to move all the trains out of the DOWN loops and set about the engineering works.  When it was time to stop, I had lifted Loop 11 and laid out some more track in the new position, allowing more room between the tracks.  You can see part of the original track lying in the centre of the loops.



I have marked out the line of the outside of the track and tomorrow, I will need to put down the cork underlay ready for the new track.  Then it will be a case of cutting, joining and laying the track.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2421 on: June 25, 2018, 06:46:02 PM »
First thing this morning I set about completing Loop 11 in the DOWN loops.  I lifted the temporarily laid track and stuck down the underlay.  Then I carefully re-laid the track along its original line and pinned it back into place,



Then it was time to see off our visitor, after which there was more garden work to do.  In the garden today, I began by tying back the hollyhocks and then snipping and tying the espaliers.  This was followed by tying and snipping the tayberry that grows on the espalier framework.  Finally, I removed the netting from one of the raised beds because the parsnips and turnips were starting to be constrained by it.  By the afternoon it was really too hot to work in the garden or, at least, the Sun was too fierce and so we had a short rest before I returned to the Train Shed.  There, I completed fixing Loop 11 into place.  I have decided to use track pins rather that Copydex because a) the level in my Copydex bottle has fallen below the brush and so the brush is hard with Copydex and b) track pins hold the track firmly in place, whereas I have notice that Copydex can creep over time.  I tested the completed loop with 6417 before moving on to Loop 12.  Here are both completed loops, both of which were tested using 6417.



Then came the acid test.  The main reason for relocating the loops was to ensure that there was sufficient space between adjacent loops for any train to run on any loop, no matter what trains were in adjacent loops.  I tested the distance with two corridor coaches.



The main problem is either that the ends of coaches touch the overhanging sides of coaches on the adjacent loop or that the front buffer beam or smoke deflectors of an incoming loco touch the overhanging sides.  Once that was done, I progressed to Loop 13.  Here it is being tested by 6417 again.



Tomorrow, there will be more loop relocations until the whole of the DOWN lops are completed.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2422 on: June 25, 2018, 06:57:24 PM »
What on earth had your visitor done to be “seen off”.
Was he perchance chased off the premises with a pitchfork ?  :D

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2423 on: June 25, 2018, 08:47:12 PM »
What on earth had your visitor done to be “seen off”.
Was he perchance chased off the premises with a pitchfork ?  :D

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2424 on: June 26, 2018, 05:58:02 AM »

  :claphappy: Large and elegant curves, Very well laid tracks, Awesome rolling stock running smooth and at realistic speed ...  :heart2: Great job ! Lots of work on this project and very nicely done with precision and application. 

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2425 on: June 26, 2018, 08:07:08 PM »
I had a really good time-stealing session in the Train Shed this morning.  First, I lifted all the main curves in Loop 14 and re-laid them.  I had to lift the section feeding into exit Point 30 because the radius of curvature was a little too tight, although I had eased it a little recently.  Loop 14 is used only by 92006 and the tightness of the curvature had been leading to derailments at the point.  Once it was all complete, I tested it with 92006.  It was then I found that the frog dropper on Point 30 had come adrift.  After it was fixed, I retested.

 


Then I set about Loop 15.  One of the issues here was that, because I had eased the radius of Loop 14’s approach to Point 30, it was too close to Loop 15.  So, I had to adjust the geometry of Loop 15 at the exit to ensure that neither 92006’s buffer beam nor its smoke deflectors would foul the overhang of a corridor coach in Loop 15.



After that, I went to the gym for a swim, followed by our weekly trip to J Sainsbury.  In the early afternoon, the two 45XXs arrived from Swindon Works, all ready for action.



The Sun was far too fierce this afternoon to do much in the garden.  Although the air temperature fell short of 24C, the ferocity of the Sun was really something.  So I went back to the Train Shed and began by programming 4571 and 5572 as Locos 16 and 17.  The intention is that they will run on the branch in place of 9744 and 6417, until such time as I introduce the new operational timetable.  That will involve three trains operating the branch, the ‘B’ set, another set of suburban coaches and the branch goods.  I hope, eventually the Farish 2-6-2T will become available.  I have set the top speeds, acceleration and deceleration for both 45XXs.

Then I began working on Loop 16.  This loop is worked only by 3846 apart from, when the new timetable comes into force, Ditcheat Manor will use it a couple of times when I can’t access Loop 18.  Once it was done, I tested it with 3846.

 


Then I moved on to Loops 17 and 18.  They required less geometry adjustment, but Loop 17, like Loop 13, required the droppers to by relocated.  Once I was happy with the loops, I needed to test Loop 18 with Ditcheat Manor, particulary the coach overhang from Loop 17.  It will need more testing tomorrow, but I think it is OK.  There were problems with Ditcheat Manor which I managed to track down to a broken loco to tender feed wire.  Fortunately, I have a spare, although not a heavy duty one.  I need to order some more spares.

Tomorrow, I should be able to complete work on the DOWN loops, including cleaning, ready for returning all the trains back to their starting positions.

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2426 on: June 27, 2018, 09:24:49 PM »
Before I went to the Train Shed this morning, I completed the outline operational timetable for the next operating regime.  When I went down to the Train Shed, I began by replacing the broken cab to tender wire on Ditcheat Manor.  Here you can see the screws on the inverted loco in its servicing cradle.



After that, I tidied up the DOWN loops and put all the tools away. 



Then I moved all the trains back to the DOWN loop board ready to start another operational timetable.



After that, it was off to the gym to undertake my Pilates routine.  After the gym and coffee we visited Waitrose to take advantage of one of the money-off vouchers that they had sent me.  When we returned home, I (once again) put up the umbrella over the table on our little terrace and arranged the cushions ready for our mid-day snack.  It used to be called dinner, but now I think most people call it lunch.  It’s a bit like the drift from ‘lavatory’ through ‘toilet’ to ‘loo’.  I think we are all becoming too gentrified these days.  But it does seem as though Summer has really arrived this year.  For the last few days, sitting outside eating our snack, it’s just like being on a Mediterranean Holiday.



Out water lily is now in flower and, as never before, it has three flowers out at the same time.  Previously, we have had only one, which has always died before the next one has emerged.



Today, we picked our first peas of the year, our first broad beans and our first gooseberries.  The strawberries are doing well now and we also have some tayberries.

But back to the Train Shed.  I was able to program the two 45XXs and made a short video of them under test.

 


There were some problems with them.  I think the back to back is little too close and I had to bend the turnout blade of a couple of points to stop them shorting.  Also, the front ponies seem more likely to derail than on other locos and I had to make some fine adjustments to a couple of rail joins.  Tomorrow, I will try to run the timetable again, but this time I will run the 45XXs in a push-pull mode to avoid having to lift them from the track until I can install a magnetic uncoupling system.  I know it’s not prototypical, but needs must.
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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2427 on: June 27, 2018, 09:37:01 PM »
I have 2 Dapol 2-6-2T locos (a 45xx and an Ivatt) and both their bogies like to go astray now and then. Good looking locos although the driving wheels always seem too close together to me :hmmm:

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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2428 on: June 28, 2018, 03:42:08 AM »
Hi Laurence,

Nice pics, although how many telephones have you got?  :D

You've probably said and I might have asked before (no memory) but, just out of interest, what is going to go in between the sweeping curves of the branch and the mainline before the tunnels?

Great stuff and glad you never lose heart.

Cheers weave  :beers:


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Re: The Train Shed Project - Marton Hinmarche
« Reply #2429 on: June 28, 2018, 06:41:50 AM »
You've probably said and I might have asked before (no memory) but, just out of interest, what is going to go in between the sweeping curves of the branch and the mainline before the tunnels?
I was thinking of a small sewage treatmant tank at the UP end of the layout and a sloping hillside with a cutting for the mainline at the other end.  But when I'll get round to it...... :hmmm:
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