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Kato trams and unitrack
« on: January 17, 2016, 07:28:15 PM »
Just out of interest, (at the moment  :)), will Kato trams run on Kato n guage track. The reason I ask is that the Kato tram tracks only seem to be double tracks, (or does any one know different  ???), and I am thinking of a single 'end to end' line. Any thoughts and info' would be appreciated.  :thankyousign:. David.
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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 07:28:47 PM »
simple answer - yes!

kato unitram track is fully compatable with normal Kato unitrack, Kato trams are happy on both (only one note, I wouldn't go smaller than R150 curves, the trams can just about make it round the smallest R117 radius curves but they're not happy)

and yes, Unitram track only comes in double track at the moment
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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 07:41:04 PM »
 :thankyousign: TylerB. I was thinking of a single track straight end to end line, so you have perfectly answered my questions - certainly given me food for thought. :). David.
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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 02:21:20 AM »
The Tomix Finetrack range has some single-track tram tracks, as well as inlays for their small-radius points, which makes for a more flexible system.
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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 04:45:12 PM »
The Tomix Finetrack range has some single-track tram tracks, as well as inlays for their small-radius points, which makes for a more flexible system.


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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 06:50:29 PM »
Okay, another question on the same theme - is a 'normal' Kato controller, (as used for trains), used to power the tram or is a dedicated tram controller required  ???. (As you may have noticed, I know nowt about Kato trams  :)). David.
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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 07:25:56 PM »
Okay, another question on the same theme - is a 'normal' Kato controller, (as used for trains), used to power the tram or is a dedicated tram controller required  ???. (As you may have noticed, I know nowt about Kato trams  :)). David.


Okay, another question on the same theme - is a 'normal' Kato controller, (as used for trains), used to power the tram or is a dedicated tram controller required  ???. (As you may have noticed, I know nowt about Kato trams  :)). David.
AFAIK the normal Kato controller is fine - the trams are 12v rated. if worried about overvoltage, a few pairs of back to back diodes in series on the power lead will help ( see Hints/tips on Z21 for a diagram) and will drop the voltage.

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Each pair of diodes consumes 0,6v (depending on the type, i used the 1N4001).
So in this example we now have a track voltage of 18 - 4,8 = 13,2 volt.
Instead of diodes one can also use a few rectifiers.
I used this setup (first picture) for a few weeks as a test and all works flawless.

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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 07:31:41 PM »
If you are buying a Kato controller for your trams, its exactly the same as the one for Kato trains, the only difference might be if you are using actual Unitram track as opposed to other kato unitrack as the Unitram track needs a special type of power connector to send power to the rails. Otherwise, all the same.

If you are using other brands of controller they should be fine if they are specifically intended for N gauge.

The kato trams are all DC and are not easily converted to DCC


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Re: Kato trams and unitrack
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 07:38:08 PM »

Hello there,

On our club layout Horseley Fields we have a single line tram track that uses Tomix Finetrack.

It includes a straight run with a point at each end to allow, in theory, a pair of trams to be operational.

We have a Tomy tram that works fine on it, but the Kato tram we have does not like the points or the small radius curves.  This is a shame as it is undoubtedly a superior model.

If you want to use Kato trams, I would stick with Kato track, either Unitram or Unitrack.

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