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Dapol B sets
« on: January 16, 2016, 01:46:07 PM »
Couldn't see any thread under 'Coach reviews' about these but I've just ordered the Dapol 2P-003-001 BR Maroon B set and just wondered if there's anything I should beware of as I seem to recall others have had some issues with these sets :uneasy:

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 01:59:40 PM »
Well if you suddenly go silent, we'll know you've been marooned.

I'll get my coat.
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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016, 04:03:35 PM »
Let us al know if they have NEM coupling mounts please

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2016, 04:38:03 PM »
Well if you suddenly go silent, we'll know you've been marooned.

I'll get my coat.

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 05:10:17 PM »
The earlier B sets had issues with the bogies as I recall. These newer one are (I believe) all OK. No NEM sockets  on the ones I've seen.

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2016, 05:14:59 PM »
I have a maroon set I the post from Liverpool - should be here on Monday. I'll post info when I get them.

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2016, 06:07:01 PM »
The B sets are not brilliant models but quite acceptable. They can be improved in various ways and also converted with etched sides from TPM into a variety of other more interesting coaches.

For the improvements see the article by Maurice Pearce at http://www.gwr.org.uk/pronbset.html

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 09:46:53 AM »
The B sets are not brilliant models but quite acceptable. They can be improved in various ways and also converted with etched sides from TPM into a variety of other more interesting coaches.


Yup, I have converted examples into everything from full-brakes to restaurant cars.





Sadly TPM seems to have stopped trading since Bernie moved house. I heard (2nd hand) that some toolings got lost or damaged in the move so I don't know when these will be available again. If interested, you could always drop him a line with specific requests.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 10:15:02 AM »
Mine arrived this morning. No NEM sockets but at least they couple closely. I think this is far better than what they did to the syphons which look hideous because of the gap between them.

Here is my set at rest at Ridgacre

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And approaching (Little) Aller Junction from Plymouth

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Underside

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 10:21:10 AM »
B Set compared to GF suburban Mk1 (Maroon vs crimson so not meant to be the same colour)

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Gap between coaches

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Gap between GF suburbans as a comparison

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The white interiors are a somewhat odd choice but I like em, especially at 24 including postage for the pair.
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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2018, 10:10:30 AM »
I understand there is a crimson B set coming shortly, which leads me to ask the following question:

On which lines were B sets used, and where were auto-trailers used? (Matt?? @Karhedron help please)

Bob

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2018, 11:12:00 AM »
I have an original B Set somewhere, I obtained replacement bogies (free of charge at the time) as the back to backs on the originals were set too close together resulting in them crashing through pointwork although not derailing. 24 for a pair is great value, especially considering my pair bought at Warley on the release day all those years ago were 12 each!

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2018, 11:22:07 AM »
I have an original B Set somewhere, I obtained replacement bogies (free of charge at the time) as the back to backs on the originals were set too close together resulting in them crashing through pointwork although not derailing. 24 for a pair is great value, especially considering my pair bought at Warley on the release day all those years ago were 12 each!

Roy

Ditto - I have the original maroon ones.
I have been told they are not very good models by current standards, but yes, its a good price.
I see they are advertised as having NEM couplings on some sites.
Do we know if they have actually done this to a better standard than their Autocoach bogies on the Siphons? Or can we have the existing ones that work properly :)

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2018, 04:39:01 PM »
I understand there is a crimson B set coming shortly, which leads me to ask the following question:

On which lines were B sets used, and where were auto-trailers used? (Matt?? @Karhedron help please)


You rang? :D

The short answer is that it varied. Autocoaches and B-sets both tended to be used on the same sorts of services, branch lines and lighter suburban services. Which was used tended to vary depending on the specifics of the service.

Autocoaches were favoured on shorter runs and also on more intensive services where a quick turn-around was required. So as well as being used on lightly-used branchline services, they could also be used on intensive suburban services such as those between Plymouth and Saltash and the south-Wales valleys.

B-sets were favoured on slightly longer runs where time could be taken to run around at each end. B-sets were often used on branchlines but could be used for mainline stopping services on lightly used mainlines. The stopping services on routes like the Oxford to Worcester line were handled by B-sets. In the Bristol area, it was not uncommon for 2 pairs of B-sets to be couples together for the Bristol suburban services in place of a dedicated 4-coach set.

In short, the distinction between routes that would be operated by auto-trains and B-sets was a pretty hazy one. From a modelling point of view, you could probably justify using either (or both) quite easily. If modeling a particular location, a quick browse through historical photos will generally show which is appropriate.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Dapol B sets
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2018, 07:00:53 PM »

The stopping services on routes like the Oxford to Worcester line were handled by B-sets.

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