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Title: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:03:04 AM
Time for a fresh start?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/830/42184833252_13e5e2674a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJief)


Takahachikawa is a fictitious station on the Chuo line on the western edge of Tokyo, where the Kanto plain hits the mountains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on May 29, 2018, 11:05:45 AM
Looks good RS. Good progress and lots of potential.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
Well, not quite that dramatic. Needed to get at the air conditioning unit:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/957/40423821860_6600c8f125_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24A7DTS)

so dumped everything down the other end of the layout:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/956/42184832862_514ba87848_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJi7w)

as it was designed with this eventuality in mind.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:11:53 AM
Air conditioning attended to, reconstruction commences:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/42184832692_f27f3e794d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJi4A)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/908/40423821720_e5cc14e3bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24A7DRs)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:12:15 AM

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/903/42184832082_d3aa0a3127_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhT5)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/981/42184831432_a9a72436d2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhFS)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/961/42184830952_0d4359e86e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27gJhxA)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:15:55 AM
The new station even has a name (though the English version seems to have been omitted):

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27360427757_1f3c75b886_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFKkX4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on May 29, 2018, 11:19:53 AM
Extremely rapid progress!

All seriousness aside, I'm a big fan of your posts, RS, and look forward to following this thread as it unfolds.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
And a teensy bit actual rural scenicky progress:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/28537628488_65785a9db0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KtLNHo)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/42410796301_fc1f4da878_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27BGqaT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 11:24:00 AM

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/42411120371_6949d9028d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27BJ5vi)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1741/41687717704_fec2dfaf90_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26vNs6w)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 29, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Yep, looks great!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 29, 2018, 12:12:31 PM
A handsome looking steamer.
Oh, and the scenics are pretty good, too :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 29, 2018, 03:20:29 PM
A handsome looking steamer.
Oh, and the scenics are pretty good, too :D

Happily that one is preserved and still in use for excursion trains. Even better, it ran both in operation and preservation in the general area the layout is set in. And it only cost about  25 quid :D

Some detailing work, mainly painting those steps a more "natural" grey so they don't stand out so much.

Meanwhile, a bit of lineside detail, mainly to make that set of white plastic steps, which once formed part of an old Tomix station, and which are glaringly visible in some pictures, blend in better.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1743/42381910992_09221ec806_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27z9nzj)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1734/40624216200_8bd9bdd8bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24TPJ9G)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1743/40624215660_14008b7d6c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24TPHZo)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on May 29, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
Hi railsquid,

All looks great to me. Looking forward to more.

Great pics. Love the one of the house(s) with the hillside behind.

Not quite sure what you mean by air conditioning unit. We're more of a 4 duvets or 4 electric fans family  :)

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2018, 12:46:13 AM

Not quite sure what you mean by air conditioning unit. We're more of a 4 duvets or 4 electric fans family  :)

It provides warmth in winter, which can get cold, but not cold enough for long enough to justify that mysterious foreign invention called "central heating", and coolness in the summer, when it can get hot and sticky for weeks at a time.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Rowlie on May 30, 2018, 07:03:34 AM
Hi Railsquid, enjoying the layout build, great pictures.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on May 30, 2018, 12:25:02 PM
Bostin!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on May 30, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Never heard the word. Had to look it up.

No hablo Midland English so for the benefit of others like me it means very good or excellent.  :)

Good call.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2018, 01:52:55 PM
@tutenkhamunsleeping (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1490) speaks my language.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 31, 2018, 03:12:54 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:  Looking excellent Railsquid, gotta say the steamer appearing from the tunnel looks really good, looking forward to more
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2018, 01:18:46 AM
Random scenes of construction.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/882/41601022185_81f7345c91_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26o97xc)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42452023892_3e104d56cb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27FkHGq)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2018, 02:17:41 AM
Good one, Ian!

Just  got back to Chez Bealman - will post a similar pic of my purchase from your favourite  shop soon.

It's a shunting loco, by the way.... Kato 7014-1 DD13  :worried:

I know it runs and has lights, though.... the young guy in the shop tested it for me! His English  wasn't  bad either!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2018, 02:58:28 PM
That's a model I don't actually own, though I have evidence to justify one in early brown livery.

Meanwhile the geoformers have been in, filling in the last major gap on the inside of the east curve.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1735/42514526971_ba344e337a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27LS4FH)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on June 05, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
The new station even has a name (though the English version seems to have been omitted):

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27360427757_1f3c75b886_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFKkX4)

Been trying to get hold of taxis like that for, well it seems like ever  :(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 06, 2018, 11:02:26 AM
Move to Tokyo, it's amazing what you can find here.

Apropos of nothing more than it being June 6th, here an EF66 bursting forth from a tunnel which must be on the Tokaido Main Line.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1731/41890702274_96488d2b5e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26PJNku)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on June 06, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
Nice, although some Brit enthusiast has nicked the plates :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 06, 2018, 12:35:22 PM
Nice, although some Brit enthusiast has nicked the plates :D

They are apparently now in the possession of a certain Mr. R. O. Undtuit.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2018, 04:49:00 PM
A bit of work on Old McTanaka's farm...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1722/42693661131_aa33a0c004_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/283Gb2H)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1758/41975948484_3159ca73f6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26XgH4J)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
(for some reason the forum won't allow more than two external images per post, hence the split...)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1748/28820421308_f4de3e8686_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KULcaE)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1738/28819714658_46df9870d3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KUGz73)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: GreyWolf on June 09, 2018, 05:25:29 PM
Lovely details! And excellent building. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: RailGooner on June 09, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
 :thumbsup: The last pic especially is a doozey! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 09, 2018, 09:27:16 PM
 :hellosign: :greatpicturessign:  Ver nice detail modelling Ian, looking good
       regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 02:17:14 AM
A bit of destruction down the other end of the layout - now you see it...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1753/28835594978_13fc62d2fd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KW6XLE)

Now you don't...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1747/41990950794_8b38616240_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26YAAJf)

It proved impractical to integrate the original layout, so it Had To Go in a shower of loose ballast.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 02:19:02 AM
However, parts will be recycled, such as this section of road, which will fit quite nicely in front of the farm.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1730/27843160467_3df5b990a5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JqptyP)


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1721/42663031692_836c1083d4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27ZZbXW)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on June 11, 2018, 02:35:25 AM
Geez, Ian - I know Japan is on the edge of tectonic plates, but that's one heck of a big quake you've had there!!  :confused1:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 11, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Whenever I see the thread title I feel I ought to be saying "Bless you"
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
Whenever I see the thread title I feel I ought to be saying "Bless you"

Just be thankful I haven't felt inspired to model Shitte Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitte_Station).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2018, 01:08:44 PM
Random photograph, from the smartphone which is not so great for scenic shots.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1731/42764488742_b45f344119_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/289XbBq)

(Viewers are asked to excused the wrong-line running and non-prototypical combination of locomotive and coaching stock)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on June 15, 2018, 02:59:00 PM
You are duly excused  :wave:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on July 29, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
A momentous, possibly even historical day, as after almost ca. 4 years messing about with this stuff I've finally connected the second mainline loop and wired up two controllers so I can have two (2) trains running at the same time in different directions.



This is literally the first time I've done this and it's requiring some mental adjustment ("Why isn't that train stopping? Oh, wrong controller" kind of thing)   :headbang:

The trains featured are cheap Kato Kokuden units, which are expendable in case of unintended mishaps. The orange one is the first powered N gauge unit I bought, so kind of appropriate for this festive occasion  :beers:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: weave on July 29, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on July 29, 2018, 07:22:59 PM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)



My duck has flat feet???
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on July 29, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
Great stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on July 30, 2018, 01:33:02 AM
Hi railsquid,

おめでとう,  :claphappy:

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS Think you read Japanese and hope Google translate hasn't embarrassed me  :)

No worries, Google translate gets it right sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 05, 2018, 08:33:35 AM
Going by the motto "you can never have enough track", experimenting with filling in a space just right for some kind of traction depot or similar.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/28919349777_803dd580c6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L4ve9V)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/42047230770_f8713edd40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z3NE)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 05, 2018, 08:35:01 AM
Random shot from an angle which makes things look a lot more complete than they actually are.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1836/42047232860_63f492a589.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z4qG)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 05, 2018, 08:43:45 AM
Looking really good, mate.  :thumbsup:

I must admit that I was guilty of squeezing sidings in here and there as my layout grew like topsy. I really was making it up as I went along!  ;D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 10, 2018, 09:33:49 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign: Looking good Ian, thanks for the updates
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 12, 2018, 12:44:57 PM
And today we have running on all 3 main loops:



Do please excuse any unprototypical speeds, this is all testing. If you listen carefully towards the end you can hear the Squidlet speak a single railway-related word.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2018, 07:06:40 PM
Very nice work. Some very attractive scenes. Once you got going, you've made a lot of progress.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 16, 2018, 09:53:08 AM
I am getting somewhat more quality free time at times other than late in the evening, which is helping solve the chicken-and-egg problem inherent in the interaction between track layout and scenery, which means particularly on the lower level I can't do much until I've tweaked the track into the right position. Anyway slowly coming together.

Random work-in-progress shot from "inside" the layout, cunningly hiding a lot of chaos (though careful observers may spot a bus which appears to be falling into a sinkhole, and either Annie or Clarabel on her side).

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1816/44003946302_8b3a02ae33_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a3tJam)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 16, 2018, 10:30:16 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 17, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Slightly less hidden:

(http://japan-train-blog.infogogo.com/static/misc/annie-clarabel-shinkansen.jpg)

"This isn't Sodor any more, is it?" said Annie with a worried voice.
"My axle boxes are starting to feel all hot and bothered", complained Clarabel.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 18, 2018, 07:42:13 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:

Yep, got the bus and Annie.  :thumbsup: Still can’t find Wally, can I have a clue please?  :D

Great scenes,  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 19, 2018, 09:06:49 AM
Great pic, Ian! Spotted the bus down the sinkhole, but took a while to find Annie on her side!

Shades of Where's Wally!  :thumbsup:

Yep, got the bus and Annie.  :thumbsup: Still can’t find Wally, can I have a clue please?  :D

You'll have to ask George, he's the one who brought him into this  ???

Meanwhile a bit more random scenic work-in-progress, mainly to finally cover up the wallpaper formerly visible on the right-hand side.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1895/30258413098_176a30346f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/N6Qh2y)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 19, 2018, 09:09:35 AM
That's awesome. You have captured the landscape we went through on the train to Hakone!

Brilliant, mate. Triple  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 19, 2018, 03:05:59 PM
Really excellent scenic work. Thanks for the update and photo. The hill blends in nicely with the photographic backscene.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 20, 2018, 07:30:56 AM
Great hillside, excellent. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
Over the last couple of days I've been amusing myself by running my motley collection of Shinkansens, as they're the largest Japanese trains I own (and the double-decker ones have the largest cross-section of any trains I own) to check for various issues, particularly clearance, radius tolerance and with one unit, uncoupling issues.

This was the scene in December 2017:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4595/38427365925_866f39a7ab_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21xGi6P)

Earlier today:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1898/29238202597_16703ae366_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxFqZk)

The comparison leads me to believe some progress has been made in the intervening months.

I will need to raise the grey tunnel portal by a couple of mm, as the white/yellow/blue Shinkansen on the right (if anyone is taking notes, an E4 series, model by Tomix) as it's prone to hitting the tunnel portal edge when running on the outer loop. Otherwise everything is satisfactory.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
This is an E2 series Shinkansen, pictured against the recently added, albeit not yet all shrubbed-up wallpaper-disguising scenery.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1857/29238395117_80df056c34_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxGqdD)

Another perspective:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1813/43269912325_fccfb6f43b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28VBBr8)

Here much wallpaper would still be visible, but thanks to the power of modern technology I have GIMPed it into sky.

The E2 unit pictured here is also from Tomix, originating from a 1990s era starter set acquired for small change and restored to working order with my own fair tentacles.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 21, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
And this is my favourite shinkansen:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/926/43081169392_33ae50370b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28CWfJC)

A 200 series by MicroAce, which is a very nice model with "presence", but was suffering from random decoupling issues as it has a slightly fiddly coupling system unique to MicroAce which seems very sensitive to uneven track, but I think I've ironed that out (without melting too many sleepers, hah).

For anyone taking notes, the 200 series is very similar to the classic 0-series "bullet train" design, the obvious difference being the green rather than blue livery, the less obvious difference is that it was designed for the northern, often snow-bound mountainous routes and is therefore more snow-repellent.

A detail shot:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1815/44176143301_921b66d244_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aiGhk8)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Thanks for the update. A very good set of interesting photos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 22, 2018, 06:39:11 PM
Awesome photos. And my 日本語 says the name is “high eight rivers”- correct?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2018, 06:53:04 PM
 Rilliant photos.
I particularly like that low level close up of the green and white shinkasen.
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 22, 2018, 11:12:22 PM
Awesome photos. And my 日本語 says the name is “high eight rivers”- correct?

Correct, that's the literal translation; it's a made-up name taking elements from three significant stations on the Chuo Line in western Tokyo: Tachikawa, Hachiouji and Takao.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Philipp on August 23, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
A lovely layout Railsquid, and those Shinkansen locos are stunners  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 23, 2018, 11:06:03 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:  Thanks for sharing Ian, the mountain is looking brilliant   :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2018, 09:37:01 AM
Random picture of some contemporary mainline commuter action, again making things look more complete than they are ;)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1896/44359767891_60cf840dc7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2azVpwk)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 30, 2018, 09:53:20 AM
Great pic! Camera on tracks in girder bridge, obviously....

Is it your phone?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 30, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
Great pic! Camera on tracks in girder bridge, obviously....

I believe the photographer was shooting with a telephoto lense from a position with a good view of the bridge ;)

Is it your phone?

Nah, my trusty compact-ish Panasonic in macro mode. Much better than a phone for these kinds of shots.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on August 31, 2018, 06:28:34 AM
And a little bit more scenic work...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/30510624118_1779d71042_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nu7Vzq)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on August 31, 2018, 07:11:39 AM
Excellent photos, and great hillside.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2018, 07:15:31 AM
Excellent photos, and great hillside.  :thumbsup:

Seconded! And blends very well with the photographic backscene, too.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on August 31, 2018, 09:44:43 AM
And a little bit more scenic work...

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/30510624118_1779d71042_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nu7Vzq)

Like this image Ian, kinda how I imagine rural Japan to be  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on August 31, 2018, 10:12:44 AM
Having recently returned from Japan, I can assure you that Railsquid has captured it perfectly.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on August 31, 2018, 10:47:15 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:    :greatwork:    :thumbsup:
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 02, 2018, 07:37:36 AM
A bit more work-in-progress completing the "tunnel corner", mainly filling the gap between running lines and scenery.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/44419344431_fbeb9ed02f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKy4)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1859/29481297927_fcbd7e6c5c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LVamL8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 02, 2018, 07:39:35 AM
And spent a bit of time provisionally repositioning buildings for that crowded urban look.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1894/44419345921_7eb80162be.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKZK)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/44419345641_bb5f14109d.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/2aFbKUV)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 02, 2018, 07:50:58 AM
Better and better, buddy.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
Better and better, buddy.  :beers:

Seconded! The tunnel corner is looking better and better.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 03, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
 :hellosign: Excellent modelling Railsquid & superb photos
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 09:18:16 AM
Turning away from the hills, by happy chance I found a backscene for the rear side of the layout which is more-or-less what I've been looking for, i.e. a vast swathe of Japanese outer-urban landscape which looks pretty much like that of the main station's intended location in the far west of the urban area where it sweeps up against the mountains.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1847/42656772520_eda5f1f772.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Zr7kb)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Webbo on September 04, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
I'll tell you what, your backdrop fits perfectly with the foreground. It really does look like a city scene.

Well done!

Webbo

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 04, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
That's exactly the view I had from the Shinkansen on my way to meet up with you!

Triple thumbs up!

I know it's not that along ago, but your layout is already bringing back memories!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Couple more:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/30599289528_fd1c772d5e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBXmHo)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/43559413625_02fdbd0f6f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29nco5R)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 04, 2018, 01:37:04 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1872/43559414155_4394d02a3b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29ncoeZ)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/29531123907_e3c4be5e0b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LZyJhK)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 04, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Love the backdrop - really does blend in well.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 05, 2018, 08:49:32 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:. The backdrops looking good  :thumbsup:
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 08, 2018, 03:27:48 PM
A rather blurry ride through a very untidy layout, just in case anyone has got the impression from carefully angled photos that it's anything like complete ...

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 08, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
Bravo! :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 08, 2018, 04:54:55 PM
That reminds me (in light of recent seismic events), I must improve the lateral security of that shelf full of green Kato book cases directly above the layout, the plastic stringy stuff will probably prove ineffective in preventing them from plunging onto the layout should the wrong kind of earthquake occur.

Those IKEA shelves (or ones exactly like them) did actually withstand the 2011 earthquake very well, despite not being secured to anything other than the floor by gravity, and none of the books etc. present on them at the time actually fell off, but that was only a 5-/5+ on the Japanese scale of Earthquake Shakiness, which goes exponentially all the way up to 7.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
"Hiding gaps and other inelegant scenic transitions with fecund shrubbery part 94"

Before:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1881/30642311918_7d7593b1fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NFKRLJ)

After:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/44513985512_a868761bf6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aPxP3Q)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 05:14:29 AM
Definitely an improvement!  :thumbsup:

A RevolutioN parcels DMU is going to look great exiting that tunnel!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 05:58:14 AM
Definitely an improvement!  :thumbsup:

A RevolutioN parcels DMU is going to look great exiting that tunnel!  ;)

Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 06:25:04 AM
Yep, you're right. Wonder where that is?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 07:52:24 AM
Yep, you're right. Wonder where that is?

Birmingham New St., my old trainspotting haunt.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 07:59:59 AM
I knew it was a dungeon, but didn't realise it was that bad!!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 09:02:15 AM
Brilliant selection of traction though, especially when combined with a side trip to Saltley and Bescot.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7533/15555486523_bd55fdb8d0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pGzWcv)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7497/15948584496_326035b10b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qijEwL)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on September 09, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
Uber cool pics! Did you take them?  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 09, 2018, 10:01:04 AM
Uber cool pics! Did you take them?  :beers:

Yup, I have some more (including a 128, I think) which I need to scan in one day...

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 15, 2018, 05:13:42 PM
Coming back slightly more on-topic, albeit off-reservation, in today's Random Shot we see a locomotive and stock combination which would be more plausible for the Joban Line running northeast from Tokyo (past *that* nuclear power station), albeit at some point in the 1970s. Though the locomotive itself can, if on freight duties, just about be shoehorned into my intended location.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1865/29759676027_c0e8f96556_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MkL7Sx)

Anyway the main reason for the shot is to check the scenery still "lines up", as there are 4 (four) separate scenic "modules" visible in this shot, all totally free-standing and removable for ease of modification. As an added "bonus", the track is not fixed in place vertically (with e.g. nails or glue), though it is encouraged to stay in the same location horizontally by the adjacent ballast strips. It's a style of modelling which is probably illegal in the UK, or at least will give "proper modellers" apoplexy, but it works for me.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on September 15, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
There is a curved point on the L side of the picture - Tomix/ Kato?. The R track look so like Kato.

Your solution is one of the best for fixing Unitrack.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 15, 2018, 10:24:02 PM
The point is a Tomix one, I believe.  The quick way to tell (other than Kato don’t actually make curved ones >:( ) is that Tomix doesn’t have much in the way of sleepers outside the running rails.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 15, 2018, 11:30:05 PM
It's all Tomix, I abandoned Kato (except for possible use in hidden sidings).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 16, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Now there's more backscenery in place I can shoot from more angles without worrying about a wide expanse of white-ish wallpaper/

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1861/30845726828_51a9f46df2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NZJpWm)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on September 16, 2018, 05:22:08 PM

[/quote]

Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
[/quote]

Great shot, don't think I have encountered one of these before!  It has a very sad "face" ... the handrails almost make it look like it has bags under it's eyes!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on September 16, 2018, 11:07:24 PM



Nah, needs a grotty brick arch-lined cutting like this one: https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA (https://flic.kr/p/dP4doA) as planned for further round the layout.

Somewhere I'm sure I have a similar picture of such a unit.
[/quote]

Great shot, don't think I have encountered one of these before!  It has a very sad "face" ... the handrails almost make it look like it has bags under it's eyes!
[/quote]

Revolution Trains are proposing a model of this parcels DMU

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42503.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=42503.0)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 17, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
We interrupt this Revolution Trains commercial to bring you hot footage from the layout in question ;)



(albeit in German mode, that little loco is one of my favourites, simply because despite dating from the 1970s and being a very short-wheelbase Bo-Bo, it is surprisingly reliable and consistent even over pointwork and does sterling service as a "Thunderbird" to nudge less cooperative units into life).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: kirky on September 17, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
@railsquid (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832)
Just a quick question which you've probably metioned elsewhere but I couldnt find the answer quickly; Do you run your stock using DCC?
Just wondering if the German Fleischmann is easily chipped?

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 17, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
@railsquid ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832[/url])
Just a quick question which you've probably metioned elsewhere but I couldnt find the answer quickly; Do you run your stock using DCC?
Just wondering if the German Fleischmann is easily chipped?


No DCC due to my addiction to cheap Japanese and 2nd hand German stock. A user report on this page (http://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-artdetails.asp?ID=1906&ToShow=0&ShowState=2#reports) implies it is fairly simple to add DCC if you know what you're doing.

"Nach dem Digitalumbau (für geübte recht einfach) sehr gute Fahreigenschaften,"

Don't ask me where the chip would go, possibly in the cab.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on September 26, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
This is all looking awesome, catching up on threads, love the backscenes!

The lack of a curved kato switch is a right PIA but I can't afford to make the switch to Tomix (not to mention that I'd have to import it)

Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 28, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Just a train (JNR era 115 series if anyone's taking notes) running over some points:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/44920871012_edf505738a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2brvcW5)

but, ha, I finally wired up a DPDT switch so I can control the lower loop from one of the upper loop controllers, and thereby run trains up and down the incline. Now I can set a train off from the lower-level station and about 2 minutes later it will arrive at the upper level, having made two circuits of the layout without running over the same section of track more than once.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 28, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
Just a train (JNR era 115 series if anyone's taking notes) running over some points:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1943/44920871012_edf505738a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2brvcW5)

but, ha, I finally wired up a DPDT switch so I can control the lower loop from one of the upper loop controllers, and thereby run trains up and down the incline. Now I can set a train off from the lower-level station and about 2 minutes later it will arrive at the upper level, having made two circuits of the layout without running over the same section of track more than once.
:hellosign: Nice train Ian, would love to see a video of your inclines
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on September 28, 2018, 11:27:14 PM
:hellosign: Nice train Ian, would love to see a video of your inclines

The sole incline is visible at the start and end of the video I posted a couple of pages back:



The train stops at the end where it does because at the time I made the video, electrically it could proceed no further.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on September 29, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian, looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Drakken on October 14, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
I just had a read through your layout and think I might have to do a Japanese inspired layout. I apologise for the local lack of knowledge but the trains have a charm to them. The scenery you have I've really enjoyed the photo's you've uploaded. Might have ago at a diorama first but subscribed to continue enjoying your build  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 15, 2018, 03:16:38 PM
Time passes... Finally got round to converting a bare swathe of plaster cloth into something vaguely resembling bare rock, and added a rock fall protection fence for good measure.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4840/30954142557_c261233c0b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Paj5a4)

More vegetation needs to be applied.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on November 15, 2018, 03:26:25 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on November 15, 2018, 08:48:51 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.

:hellosign:  Seconded
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Excellent work.
Looks really good to me.

:hellosign:  Seconded
    regards Derek.

Thirded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:11:47 AM
So, finally got round to doing something which has been annoying me for some time, namely replacing this section of elevated track:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1742/42116685924_fd54226c76_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27aH2pj)

which represents very modern "concrete slab" style construction (I was originally planning to use these for high-level Shinkansen track) with something more traditional:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/44221909020_4a73b0d268_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQTf)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:13:52 AM
which blends in much better with the adjacent track section:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/44221909070_e82618ce8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQU7)

At some point in the far and distant future I shall get round to painting/weathering the plasticky bits but they will do for now.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 06:26:11 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:41:34 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

Yup, the concrete slab track just looks wrong for anything other than Shinkansens and very modern trains, and plain silly if one is running a kettle on them.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 06:46:16 AM
So where are you going to run your Shinkansens?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 06:51:29 AM
So where are you going to run your Shinkansens?

They can run on this track just fine, not all Shinkansen track is concrete slab type.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 07:01:32 AM
All cool then. Don't want to break prototype protocol  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: bill937ca on November 25, 2018, 07:27:44 AM
At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

The main thing is just to have fun and along the way run some trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2018, 07:46:45 AM
Yes, that looks better.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 25, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
All cool then. Don't want to break prototype protocol  ;)

More Prototypical:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4853/46042655871_742d9e5a06_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9CDuk)

Less prototypical:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4819/45318263874_82e3ba4607_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c3BWZ9)

;)

At first I couldn't see a lot of difference, Ian!  :-[
However on a closer look I can see ballasted "old" style track and different concrete panels.  :thumbsup:

The main thing is just to have fun and along the way run some trains.

Indeed, and that section of concrete slab track was spoiling the fun a little. Due to the way the layout is positioned, it stood out every time I look at the layout. Just one of those itches which need scratching  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 25, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
Aha. Point well made!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 26, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
which blends in much better with the adjacent track section:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/44221909070_e82618ce8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2anJQU7)

At some point in the far and distant future I shall get round to painting/weathering the plasticky bits but they will do for now.

Found a picture of what this was like before:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/30308485718_2efa4c1d6b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NbfUSA)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 28, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
Today it's ca. 1986 on the Chuo Line, with a 115 series local train bound for Takahachikawa, while an "Azusa" express heads in the general direction of Matsumoto.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/44268366390_7bd3ca8789_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arQX3o)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4884/45172881385_c4cfde9652_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bPLPQv)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 08:46:37 AM
Cool pics!  :thumbsup:

This curve can become a landmark photo spot for the forum!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 28, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
You're welcome, buddy.

I love your info and pics.  :beers:

George






Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on November 28, 2018, 04:53:02 PM
Love the Azusa!  I'm late but I'll chime in, yes, the new track looks better, its a great transition from the curve now

Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 29, 2018, 03:55:02 AM
Cool pics!  :thumbsup:

This curve can become a landmark photo spot for the forum!

Dunno about that, however I was originally intending to hide the entire end curve in tunnels, at some point it occurred to me that it would not only be practical to set the tunnel entrances a bit further back, but it would also make a nice scenic location to photograph trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 29, 2018, 04:04:21 AM
Good decision.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on November 29, 2018, 09:03:59 AM
Thank you for these excellent photographs.

Very inspirational!

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 03:54:12 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45199450255_e29a525c2e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bS7ZQt)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 04:02:53 AM
And just because...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/32239800018_a1cd6eac5c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R7Vpk1)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4808/32239800278_fa27ed9852_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R7Vppu)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on November 30, 2018, 04:57:23 AM
You're bringing back memories of my trip - that really does look like Japan!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on November 30, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

This is excellent; absolutely excellent.  Your removable scenery is vastly better than mine (simply no comparison!), but it proves the soundness of the concept.  I expect that for track cleaning and suchlike, the very attractive scene breaks apart and is then re-assembled.

Thank you very much for this.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on November 30, 2018, 09:29:57 AM
So, finally got one of the hills all "shrubbed-up", using mainly Heki "Flor" which is a bit messy to work with, but is a quick and fairly easy way of covering largish swathes of scenery in a way which looks reasonably typical for Japan. Moreover it is good at disguising gaps in the scenery; everything visible in this picture (there are 8 separate scenic "blocks") is removable for various practical reasons.

This is excellent; absolutely excellent.  Your removable scenery is vastly better than mine (simply no comparison!), but it proves the soundness of the concept.  I expect that for track cleaning and suchlike, the very attractive scene breaks apart and is then re-assembled.

It does indeed, here's an older shot with the main hill removed:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1733/28830601798_6140fb5908_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KVEntm)

Check out the first few pictures in this album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/sets/72157691220217880) for an impression of how it all fits together.

I am literally making this up as I go along. Though it helps that this is right next to my desk (I work from home mainly) so I have the opportunity to ponder at comparative leisure how it all should fit together.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 01, 2018, 03:12:12 PM
And in today's episode of "Shrub all the Things" we see the hilly end of the layout from an atypical viewing angle which reveals an implausible number of tunnel portals.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/46080114282_3da37414ba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dcWCz1)

Also if you look carefully you can see where the glue is still drying.

Checking my photographs, these things have been under construction for a whole year  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 01, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Meanwhile, down on the farm...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/45219459655_a23069c6a6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bTTxW8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2018, 07:32:55 PM
Excellent, highly realistic scenic work.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
Today it's 2013 or early 2014, and the JNR-era 115 series EMU (similar to the unit shown previously) is on the cusp of retirement (having been repainted into the "traditional" blue and cream "Yokosuka" livery), passing a modern (post-2000) EF210 Bo-Bo-Bo DC locomotive pulling a container train. The first two containers appear to contain chilled produce from inland agricultural regions, while the generic JRF containers behind might contain printers from Epson's factory in the castle city of Matsumoto.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4820/31205281517_dae22c4e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pxve28)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 02, 2018, 08:20:26 PM

Check out the first few pictures in this album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/sets/72157691220217880) for an impression of how it all fits together.

I have now had a very good look at this and it very clever indeed.  That picture stuck on the wall ending up as part of the scene was a touch of brilliance!

Thanks again and all good wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 04, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
We now turn our attention to the lower loop, which appears to be missing a tunnel portal, though a new stone embankment is sellotaped in place waiting for the glue to dry.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46125490832_9e8df3a3b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dgXcrj)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45263742445_741c37419a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bXNvEv)

It's possible the landscapers will be called in to shift the green embankment on the left a few mm further away from the trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 05, 2018, 02:40:51 PM
Still no tunnel portal, but fencing has appeared. Also, I took the opportunity to straighten out the rear shed-like building, which is a Tomytec snap-together kit, but the parts were somewhat warped.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/31251048447_b5b94f0982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMW8)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45277908715_ea8e530e03_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZ47Nx)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/31251048607_bfc41c57b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMYT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 05, 2018, 05:49:12 PM
Really excellent scenic work. I particularly like the foliage at the bottom of the last photo. Can you share the details, please, Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 12:10:55 AM
Really excellent scenic work. I particularly like the foliage at the bottom of the last photo. Can you share the details, please, Ian.

The bushes were purchased ready to plonk from this small Japanese manufacturer of scenic items: https://wakiyaku.jp/SHOP/38699/67519/list.html and the "grass" is an ad-hoc mixture of normal green and light green Kato scatter, which works quite well as generic ground cover.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 02:22:22 AM
We now turn our attention to the lower loop, which appears to be missing a tunnel portal, though a new stone embankment is sellotaped in place waiting for the glue to dry.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46125490832_9e8df3a3b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dgXcrj)

It's possible the landscapers will be called in to shift the green embankment on the left a few mm further away from the trains.

And it's off to the landscape workshop for a bit of cut-and-shut:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/32325372718_fe25782205_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RftZ7o)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 02:24:51 AM
(splitting posts because the forum software doesn't like too many Flickr links in one post)

That looks much better:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/32325372758_7a8e76f236_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RftZ85)

Though I'll have to wait for the glue to dry before putting it back in place:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4858/45284944665_a39bcacfa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZFbm2)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 04:19:54 AM
Also I didn't like the way the stone embankment comes close to the track at this end:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/31251048447_b5b94f0982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PBxMW8)

so surgically modified:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/46147971362_92eddb5ebd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2diWq7E)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 06, 2018, 04:44:28 AM
If you hadn't done that, I can't see how that loco would have cleared it, Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 05:24:00 AM
If you hadn't done that, I can't see how that loco would have cleared it, Ian.

Oh, clearance wasn't an issue, the embankment slopes away from the track and there was certainly enough space at body level, even with my trust Shinkansen wide-bodied clearance checker carriage, but it looked plain odd. Not that it's visible from normal viewing angles anyway, but you never know who might be out and about on the layout with a compact camera.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 06, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Clearance problems almost solved (though I should relocate that small tree a little to the right); that's not snow on the ground, but styrene sheet which will be decorated in a more linesidey kind of way.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/31265111397_d4b46cb6b6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PCMSmM)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 09, 2018, 03:03:03 PM
Tunnel now fixed in place and side ballast has appeared:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4842/31290937927_db67d3b4a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PF5eFM)

though due to the shuffling of various interconnected elements I've ended up with a wider gap on the right than I thought, so will have to redo that bit.

Olde-style catenary mast by Tomytec.

FWIW, in this shot we see products from:

 - Tomytec (catenary mast, train, tunnel portals, buildings, brown fencing)
 - Tomix (track)
 - Greenmax (both styles of embankment facing)
 - Kato (grey fence on the right in the foreground; scatter; some hillside shrubbery)
 - Heki (rest of the hillside shrubbery)
 - Tamiya (the white 3mm foamboard used on the linesides)
 - Wakiyaku (the bright green small tree)
 - Morin (ballast)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 14, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
 :hellosign:. Steady progress & looking good Ian, nice work
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 15, 2018, 01:09:22 AM
Some minor progress, mainly repositioning the concrete hillside "cladding"

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1973/31321212867_1188713eff_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PHKpnv)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 16, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
Now to work on this "problem" area, where 6 separate scenic blocks meet.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/32465053308_f4fcc1219f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RsPThq)

A section of disposable chopstick is handily shaped to fill one gap, while an outsized wooden javelin appears to have impaled itself in the cutting side.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45613734004_7a000c4abc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cuJiXJ)

I have a cunning plan to hide the tunnel portal visible on the upper left behind some trees so it doesn't intrude on shots from this angle.

Observant observers will also note the visibility of a lighter strip inside the lower tunnel portal at the top; that is actually the side of piece of plywood which carries the line which goes through the upper portal through its tunnel. I will need to paint that a darker colour.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 16, 2018, 10:20:30 PM
Great stuff!

Very clever; very clever indeed.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 18, 2018, 02:24:12 PM
Now to work on this "problem" area, where 6 separate scenic blocks meet.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4803/32465053308_f4fcc1219f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RsPThq)


Some of the gap filled:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/46317082352_06f5c2a7fa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dyT9Vo)

The ocularly-blessed may just be able to spot the relocated toothpick.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 18, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
Meanwhile, by happenstance some bits of greenery have fallen into the small gap between the ballast side strips and the track itself, looking not atypical for such a line while making the gap less obvious, which I shall exploit in future work.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/32496185168_2d6cbdfc76_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RvzrGC)

One day I might be able to fix some track sections permanently in place, and ballast it all up "properly", but for now it's much more convenient to be able to remove bits of scenery to work on.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
And more bits in place.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46330068162_bf76d68a29_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dA2H9E)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4857/44564125180_7245bc913f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aTYMPS)

Basically waiting for the glue to dry, then to do some minor landscaping/gap filling with modelling clay, paint it (a blotchy green/brown sprinkled with a mixed medium/light scatter serves well as a basic scenic "undercoat"0, then smother it in shrubbery, which is also good for hiding remaining gaps and other sins.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
A quick trip down memory lane to this time last year:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4560/39058058702_ebfcb16e87_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22vqL6d)

Definite signs of progress  :beers:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4841/32509780008_74d9cd0c2a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RwM7Yq)

The blob of scenery in the first photo was my first ever (at least in this century) attempt at some scenery as a test, and it proved quite handy as a moveable "mockup" for a while but is now, after some surgery, an official part of the current scenery (in roughly the same position).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 19, 2018, 03:38:41 PM
Q: What has two decks and a long pointy nose?

A: An E4 series Shinkansen, AFAIK still (when two 8-car units are coupled together) the highest-capacity passenger train (in terms of available seats) in the world. Though scheduled for retirement in 2019, because it will be almost 20 years old, which in Shinkansen years is about 100.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/44565216850_5413f053b4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU5okL)

Though not entirely prototypical for the location, operational needs may require that it fits through the tunnel without the telltale "thock" of scenery contact.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 19, 2018, 08:07:00 PM
Lovely stuff, like the 1 year retrospective, encouraged to do something similar :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
Almost there, still need to clear off excess modelling clay smears and tidy up a bit.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/46400638361_09474b1cb8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpde)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4828/46400638391_a6e3b2a98c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpdK)

Up above it looks like this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4841/46400638561_7f145b7c07_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGgpgF)

Ridiculous concentration of tunnel portals, but they're not really visible from normal viewing angles, and careful photographic composition will make them into individual scenes (as mentioned before, I see the layout as a collection of scenes which just happen to be linked by some loops of track).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 21, 2018, 02:55:25 AM
Top stuff Ian!  :beers:

Bealette is flying to Sapporo today, by the way, en route home on January 4.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 06:36:20 AM
Q: What has two decks and a long pointy nose?

A: An E4 series Shinkansen, AFAIK still (when two 8-car units are coupled together) the highest-capacity passenger train (in terms of available seats) in the world. Though scheduled for retirement in 2019, because it will be almost 20 years old, which in Shinkansen years is about 100.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/44565216850_5413f053b4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aU5okL)

Though not entirely prototypical for the location, operational needs may require that it fits through the tunnel without the telltale "thock" of scenery contact.

For comparison and an idea of the size, here's an E1 at the JR museum in Omiya; different (earlier) class (now all retired), same basic body shape, though nose is much less pointy.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/46402902371_745fed9fd5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGt1dT)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 21, 2018, 01:53:05 PM
First train to run under its own power through the cutting:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/32534513438_c85eb7e615_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RyXTmS)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4865/45683184234_31446ed43f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cASg6u)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 21, 2018, 01:57:29 PM
Very realistic. Thanks for the photos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 05:43:22 AM
So, my thoughts move upwards a little to the station "throat" area, specifically the grey-painted section in front of the tunnel mouths:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/46363867132_ff8d358a27_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dD1Wpw)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4870/45502125915_c42da24138_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cjShLk)

This basically needs "ballasting-up", primarily by adding 3mm strips of styreen sheet between the tracks; these will be painted grey, then covered in ballast material and miscellaneous lineside scenic items. Lineside fencing and possibly a bit of shrubbery and/or signage will cover the abrupt gap between ground and backscene  It occurred to me I can fix the track in place here, which will make things easier. We shall see how it goes, as due to presence of Squidlet I won't have time before 9pm or so.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 22, 2018, 06:49:20 AM
I'd love to know how you're posting photos because I can't upload anything into my galleries.

Apart from that, looking good!  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the scenic treatment  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 07:26:52 AM
I'd love to know how you're posting photos because I can't upload anything into my galleries.

Embedded from Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/albums/72157691220217880)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 22, 2018, 07:53:49 AM
Great photos Ian & good news about the first running service.  THe scenery around the tunnel mouths looks great, the backscene ties in really well.

I might need to look at the Flickr option soon as my gallery space is running out!  I have not had any problems using the NGF gallery though since the server move
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:04:04 PM
I've gone with Flickr because it's a useful place to store and manage photos for public display, and as I post on several rail-related forums it saves the hassle of remembering the vagaries of different forum software.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/46418535721_55d269a30c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dHR8tp)

So, 3mm styrene sheet shaped and put in place temporarily (well most of it), while I consider the next steps. Fortuitously I found some bits from an earlier project which had already been cut to shape for some of the curves, which helped. Methinks I'll paint the unpainted bits grey, add the ballast and other bits in the comfort of my own workbench before sticking them in place. Once finished I don't imagine I'll need to do much more on that particular block, which is in the far corner and the most problematic to remove to work on.

And yes, the right-hand tunnel portal clearance is *very* tight, I might shave a bit off the tunnel mouth, but it's an unavoidable compromise. Though larger stock won't really need to use that route, which for added fun is an S-curve leading to a curved point cunningly hidden inside the tunnel, which has proved a lot less problematic than it sounds.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on December 22, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
Hopefully no one leans out of the window as trains negotiate that tight tunnel mouth.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:21:39 PM
Hopefully no one leans out of the window as trains negotiate that tight tunnel mouth.

With shorter "conventional" stock of the type more likely to have openable windows, the clearance is somewhat more generous, though maybe I should add a little basket to catch the heads in ;)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7922/45695983964_e97e7a4e22_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cBZS1u)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 22, 2018, 02:54:04 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:

yzsum3_xR04
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 22, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:
The YouTube link doesn't work.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 22, 2018, 06:41:20 PM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:
I've got it to work.  You need to add:
'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=')  to the front of the link

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 12:18:21 AM
In case of interest, this is the prototypical tunnel clearance for those double-decker Shinkansens:

I've got it to work.  You need to add:
'[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v='[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v='[/url])  to the front of the link


Aha, the [ youtube ] tag is generating an http:// rather than https:// link, meaning the content may not be shown depending on your browser settings (it worked for me on the computer I posted from).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 23, 2018, 07:04:24 AM
I always post the whole phrase
Code: [Select]
[youtube][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzsum3_xR04][/url][/youtube]
I have pasted it in a code window so that it doesn't display the video here, but you won't need to do that when you add the video.  I keep a copy of
Code: [Select]
[youtube][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[/url][/youtube] in a Word file.  I copy it and edit the hyperlink to add the 11 character Youtube code after the equals sign.  I always write my posts in a Word file first and then copy and paste them into the post.  In the long run, it saves a lot of hastle and avoids having to retype everything if you lose it.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 07:16:41 AM
Yeah, I should get into the habit of doing that. I've lost many a long post!

Sometimes it's probably just as well.... spare members all my waffle  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 07:30:52 AM
Indeed, since the days of Netscape Navigator I write anything of importance (or at least more than a couple of sentences) in a reliable text editor first, before entrusting it to a web browser. Then mark the entire text and copy it before submission, just to be on the safe side.

I have alerted Tank to the
Code: [Select]
[youtube] tag issue, as it will probably affect historical posts containing just the video code.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 07:53:08 AM
Meanwhile, back on the layout - looking better already:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7869/31488846407_8064505f98_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyyYX)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7871/31488846537_a3e6b25b16_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYyz2c)

I have been particularly keen to put some sort of fence or wall between the edge of the layout and the backscene so the transition isn't quite as obvious.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 07:55:27 AM
Works quite well, I reckon.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 23, 2018, 08:03:07 AM
Cracking video, that opening few seconds, where the rumble builds up to a crescendo .... goosebumps :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 23, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
Yes, the speed is awesome. After being to Japan in May (and meeting Railsquid for a couple of beers), I travelled many times on these trains.

When you are on them, they are so smooth you almost don't notice the speed. But on a platform when a through one comes hurtling through, you can feel the shockwave big time.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 01:06:52 PM
Definitely an impressive sight; when approaching from a distance they don't seem all that fast but suddenly they're in the station and zhrump zhrump zhrump it's gone by too fast for your eyes to focus, then it's receding into the distance.

Meanwhile, still-detachable scenery is detached for improvements:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7850/46380811772_3407d86255_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dEvMsu)

Not something I'd care to work on at the back of a 90cm deep layout  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
And here it is, back in place:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/31492334367_328b47c3fc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYSrQc)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
Oh yes, while I had the foliage and the glue out, time to fill in the gap between ballast and cutting side down below (in previous pictures there was a shiny brown strip to the left of the ballast):

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7800/31492907347_c1b1d00689_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PYVoaa)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
"Weehee!" puffed Thomas. "I found another tunnel! The Fat Mildly Overweight Controller on this layout must love tunnels!"

Thomas steamed away happily, blissfully unaware of the bizarre twighlight zone he was about to enter.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4804/45520021145_bb5df8514f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cms1oM)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on December 23, 2018, 03:32:08 PM
 :laughabovepost:

love it
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 23, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
And two final shots for tonight, featuring my trusty Kato DE10 Bo-Co, the first Kato locomotive I ever bought, presumably on permanent way duty.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/45520319495_c6fffdc603_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx5K)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4908/45520319425_16df606d7a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx4x)

The tunnel portal here obviously needs some work - I needed to cut one side and turn it through 90 degrees for clearance purposes - but that can wait until later (the whole section is designed to lift off). In an ideal world there would be a centimetre or two of clearance between tunnel portal and backscene, but if you look to the left of the loco, there's an impression that the ground slopes off quite steeply down towards the buildings below, which is how I imagine this spot anyway. Area to the right will need to have some miscellaneous lineside bits and random fecund shubbery added.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
Area to the right will need to have some miscellaneous lineside bits and random fecund shubbery added.

Addition of miscellaneous lineside bits in progress:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/45723093014_9e7e85065f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cEoNzU)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 03:09:20 PM
And two final shots for tonight, featuring my trusty Kato DE10 Bo-Co, the first Kato locomotive I ever bought, presumably on permanent way duty.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/45520319495_c6fffdc603_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cmtx5K)

Nope, it was running light loco in the late afternoon sun.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/45533827245_9a4f4f7bc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cnELsZ)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 24, 2018, 03:22:09 PM
Thanks for showing us some nice clips!  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 24, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Thanks for showing us some nice clips!  :D

You nailed it ;).

Wait, I nailed it, using some Kato track pins I bought early in the N gauge addiction in the naive assumption I'd be nailing some track down, but they do come in handy for keeping bits of scenery in place while the glue dries.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
Cable trunking and Random Lineside Box provisionally added:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/45728755904_ddda4cb208_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cETPXW)

Need to find some more odd bits like railings.

Train is a JNR 101 series from the late 1950s running a Chuo Line commuter express.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 06:26:38 AM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/44638014110_41b5dd08b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 01:57:40 PM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

Having posted that, I received a terse text message from the Chief Engineer pointing out in no uncertain terms that the layout does not, in fact, have any signals, so a quick trip down to the local Signals'R'Us produced this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/44641833880_ff96cf27f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1R4V3)

but I then got a phone call from the Safety Elves pointing out that the lack of fencing means lineside workers could slip and disappear for ever into the two-dimensional world of the backscene, which is in contravention of regulations, apparently.

No pleasing these people, eh?

Anyway I trust all those living where it's a holiday are enjoying suitably festive festivities.  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 25, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
Apparently this is more acceptable:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4878/46459481051_d09a2c212c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dMsZ6n)

Unfortunately the additional costs involved in setting up signalling meant I had to let go the team who polish the rails to a nice dull bronze colour, and they have rusted quickly in the Japanese climate.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 25, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
A bit safer now for any signalling/electrical engineers who need to work on that box while trains are running.

Having posted that, I received a terse text message from the Chief Engineer pointing out in no uncertain terms that the layout does not, in fact, have any signals, so a quick trip down to the local Signals'R'Us produced this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4856/44641833880_ff96cf27f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1R4V3)

but I then got a phone call from the Safety Elves pointing out that the lack of fencing means lineside workers could slip and disappear for ever into the two-dimensional world of the backscene, which is in contravention of regulations, apparently.

No pleasing these people, eh?

Anyway I trust all those living where it's a holiday are enjoying suitably festive festivities.  :beers:

Yeah, we had a video call from Bealette on Christmas morning from a snowy Sapporo before she went skiing.

Everyone was going to work! Which was great for her, because the skifield wasn't crowded.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 26, 2018, 02:50:47 PM
It might have been more crowded on the 24th, as that was a holiday - the Emperor's Birthday, which is actually on the 23rd, but that was a Sunday so the public holiday was commuted to Monday for the edification of the populace. However for my sins (whatever they are) I was at work on both the 24th and 25th, which does have the advantage of keeping me supplied with items of N gauge and even allowed some time for layout tweaking.

Meanwhile more rust has appeared:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7878/46421656932_ae62d75f9f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dJ88io)

thanks to this handy set of Tomix pens (https://www.tomytec.co.jp/tomix/products/n/8008.html) which make it quite an easy job.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 26, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
The departing Narita Express (class E259), presumed heading out to the popular resort destination Kawaguchiko on the (private) Fujikyu Line, is permitted to run at a maximum of 85km/h through the tunnel.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/46472687821_d5fc5d1250_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dNCF1i)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 26, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
Those pens look very good. I destroyed a very good small fine paintbrush painting my rail sides.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 26, 2018, 07:56:44 PM
Yes, those pens are a great idea. So much easier than painting!

Travelled on that train to the airport the day after our meet, Ian. While the prototype is very impressive - smooth, fast and comfortable, with plenty of room for luggage, the front of it struck me as odd-looking.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on December 28, 2018, 08:18:19 PM
 :hellosign:  Many thanks Ian for the updates with  :greatpicturessign: a superb video also. Your layout is looking good, excellent modelling
      regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 29, 2018, 11:11:03 AM
I have been travelling the past couple of days, which has somewhat frustrated layout development, but by coincidence from a train window I spotted this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7835/31570553577_826d5589e9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q6MkFg)

which put me somewhat in mind of this:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/32638460168_eb16d2d75e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RJ9D6S)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on December 29, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Very similar. In location too. Lots more trees to make. :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 29, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Very similar. In location too. Lots more trees to make. :)

And needs a good high English hedge in front, too. 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:26:22 AM

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4846/45613734004_7a000c4abc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cuJiXJ)

I have a cunning plan to hide the tunnel portal visible on the upper left behind some trees so it doesn't intrude on shots from this angle.


A single tree does the trick quite well:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/46534788871_17f6dd79db_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dU7Xu4)

The line above:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4880/31594609107_d571a6bfb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q8UCxM)

And to encourage myself, as it was in May:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/978/28234469248_3a7759e80d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K1Z32W)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 08:17:37 AM
A couple of random scenes:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on December 31, 2018, 08:25:41 AM
You've captured the Japanese atmosphere perfectly. Mind you, you live there! Brings back memories of my trip. :thumbsup: :beers:

The blue train had a bit of a wobble, though!  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:41:39 PM
You've captured the Japanese atmosphere perfectly. Mind you, you live there! Brings back memories of my trip. :thumbsup: :beers:

I was following you and taking notes ;) Mind you, if you saw either of the two EMUs shown, you must have travelled back in time 35 or 40 years.

The blue train had a bit of a wobble, though!  ;)

Behind the camera it crosses some tram tracks on a 90deg crossing, which is not very conducive to slow running, I have found. I may need to adjust something there.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 02:45:30 PM
And here are some slightly more modern scenes:

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on December 31, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
Are the back scenes your own or are they commercially available in Japan?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on December 31, 2018, 11:28:26 PM
Are the back scenes your own or are they commercially available in Japan?

The urban one is commercially available (and appears to be a composite scene, not a real location), the mountain ones were freely available but seem to have disappeared from the internet since I found them.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
Japanese rail fans were out in force to capture this highly unusual excursion working.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on January 02, 2019, 12:50:32 AM
Very cool video Railsquid san. すごい です よ。Keep them coming!

Also, I like be the detachable scenery. What keeps it in place?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 01:06:06 AM
Also, I like be the detachable scenery. What keeps it in place?

Gravity, basically.

None of the track is fixed down either, though it is held in position laterally in some places by the scenery.

It all seems to stay together quite well  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 02, 2019, 03:59:09 AM
I used to know a OO modeller in Sydney who never glued his ballast down. Seemed to work for him
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 02, 2019, 05:11:19 AM
I used to know a OO modeller in Sydney who never glued his ballast down. Seemed to work for him

Now that would be messy, in my case.

When things have settled down I may fix some track sections down and smother them in ballast.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 01:24:14 AM
Back to more conventional traffic, this time at a guess somewhere between 2006 (when the EF64 locomotive was painted into that livery) and 2008, when the orange 201 series was finally withdrawn.

Experimental drone footage also included.
 
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 03, 2019, 01:46:09 AM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 06:36:18 AM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.

Indeed. Kato also provide even less-obtrusive replacement knuckle couplings with the loco; I might one day, if feasible, standardize on those for modern Japanese freight.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on January 03, 2019, 08:03:31 PM
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.
You know, I think I prefer the grey Rapido couplings over the black ones!

Seem less obtrusive.

i have a box of clear ones somewhere - from a small waggon maker ISTR - they look very good.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on January 03, 2019, 08:10:49 PM
Mathiesons!

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83387-couplers-in-n-is-the-answer-clear/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83387-couplers-in-n-is-the-answer-clear/)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 03, 2019, 11:53:17 PM
Those wouldn't work for this (or any of my modern Japanese freight locos) as they all seem to have custom coupling attachment - Kato in particular seems to be going for the world record on number of ways to mount a Rapido coupler (but never using NEM sockets of course), though on the upside the way they've done it here makes it easy to replace with the provided knuckle coupler.

The tank wagons do have knuckle couplers within the rake, even though the original rapido ones were grey, they stuck out like a sore thumb.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3758/33368452475_21fded1ef0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQE3o8)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 04, 2019, 05:13:44 AM
People who enjoyed woodwork classes at school, and/or are fans of neat cabling, avert your eyes.













OK, don't say I didn't warn you.

Today's minor progress - the ghetto "control panel" as was:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/31653564597_c2be660c15_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Qe7MXK)


After some bodging, still ghetto but now "properly" attached to the layout framework so it doesn't keep falling off:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4849/46542624092_1ca6cdc677_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dUP7C5)

Just need to hide the cables and re-add the two switches for the lower loop. And add a "shelf" to put the controllers on.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 04, 2019, 05:42:48 AM
Similar situation here.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Bealman's_Album/Dir_8/main_23681.jpg)

What the photo doesn't show is it's hanging by a wiring loom and propped up on three paint cans.

I win,  methinks!

Bealette is back at Chez Bealman, by the way, Ian.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 04, 2019, 05:48:32 AM
At least you have a proper diagram thingy with labelling like a real signal box ;)

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 05, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian for the updates & the latest superb photos & videos, lovely looking bridge scene
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 06, 2019, 07:30:44 AM
This advertisement hoarding has been annoying me for some time:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7858/32751977998_f5a76605a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RUbrZQ)

because side of the embankment is at an angle, and the hoarding needs to be more-or-less vertical, which I had provisionally done with a lump of blu-tack, but after a summer or so that had slowly deformed and the sign was slipping downwards at an angle, and the stretching lump of blu-tack was frequently in my line-of-sight.

A quick rummage in the Big Box of Bagged Bits brought to light the supports from the same Tomytec signboard set, which are at more-or-less the correct angle, if inverted, so with no further ado:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7886/32751978178_6b3e5fcdb5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RUbs3W)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/39661269643_c46fbed246_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23qJnFR)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7876/45711713945_495b5481b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cDotZ4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 06, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
This hacked-about, unpainted "concrete" tunnel portal (by GreenMax, if anyone is taking notes)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/44638014110_41b5dd08b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW)
station-throat-2018-12-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2b1vuqW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

looks a lot better with a lick of paint and some strategically placed vegetation:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/31688801407_7b36690193_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QheoCX)
rear-tunnel-painted_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QheoCX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Needs a bit of retouching once the initial coat is dry, but an improvement on the previous situation.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 07, 2019, 01:23:14 AM
Gratuitous random shot, with an 183-0 series departing on an Azusa limited express service bound for Matsumoto, probably in the mid/late 1970s.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/32762027278_e6df50bfa8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RV4Xih)
rear-tunnel-painted_02 (https://flic.kr/p/RV4Xih) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 07, 2019, 06:51:32 AM
Same subject, different angle:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7836/39677855093_bc9865f8ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23scnXT)
azusa-station (https://flic.kr/p/23scnXT) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 02:02:05 AM
Construction work underway shoring up the incline; here a protruding section is being added which will provide space for a signal, and other plausible-looking lineside gubbins.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7842/46618185852_db95386ca0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e2uov3)
embankment-construction-2019-01-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2e2uov3) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

From the other side:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4886/45755709175_ea861711eb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cHgYev)
embankment-construction-2019-01-08_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2cHgYev) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

And a random bonus shot, cunningly hiding the under construction bits:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/32795870568_b212dda92f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RY4pJh)
bathhouse-farm (https://flic.kr/p/RY4pJh) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2019, 02:20:47 AM
You're setting a cracking pace, Ian!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 06:27:43 AM
You're setting a cracking pace, Ian!  :beers:

I dunno, I have the odd habit of marking the approximate date on the back of bits of scenery I work on, and according to that I last worked on this incline in summer 2017, so it's been languishing half-completed for 18 months like this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7915/45947142634_29c297e26f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d1c7Jo)
embankment-pre-2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2d1c7Jo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Anyway, have another random picture :)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4872/46672333611_262bf34f51_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7gUK6)
ef15-freight (https://flic.kr/p/2e7gUK6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 10:47:15 AM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:

Only cost me the equivalent of about 20 quid too :D Needed a bit of attention but runs reliably, not too loudly and without derailing, which is all I ask of my trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 09, 2019, 01:12:59 PM
I have the odd habit of marking the approximate date on the back of bits of scenery I work on

I used to do that on the underside of kits I started.  Some are in Roman numerals :no:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
Now that is one cool locomotive.  :thumbsup:

Only cost me the equivalent of about 20 quid too :D Needed a bit of attention but runs reliably, not too loudly and without derailing, which is all I ask of my trains.

My records indicate it was produced in 2001, which makes it an early MicroAce one, and also the only model of this particular variant produced. Also MicroAce omitted the roof-mounted whistle, which is present on this EF58:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/46681752031_af360a0081_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e87bvD)
EF15 and EF58 (https://flic.kr/p/2e87bvD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

That can be easily rectified (pending round tuit delivery).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2019, 11:48:44 PM
Embankment out-jutting embanked, with signal temporarily placed for effect:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7917/39710661223_c1d90fc461_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23v6w5P)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23v6w5P) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/32800492678_28d77bd8e7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6HQ)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6HQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(no doubt the driver is cursing the "caution" aspect while ascending this relatively steep incline).

Checking for clearance on the bridge below:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7880/32800492838_50cc903e2b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6LA)
embankment-construction-2019-01-09_03 (https://flic.kr/p/RYt6LA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 10, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
The problem: a fault in the tectonic boundary between scenic plates:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4854/39723727453_16b0d16059_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23wfudD)
scenic-gap-2019-01-10_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23wfudD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

The solution: strategically-placed cable trunking.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/45963804644_a17f8fb937_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d2EvLq)
scenic-gap-2019-01-10_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2d2EvLq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Just needs a bit of strategic shrubbery to hide the slight vertical gap (cable trunking is affixed to the block on the far side).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 11, 2019, 03:38:14 PM
And in today's random doing of things, some ballasting:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4816/46649528752_45b7877cab_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e5g2DS)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2e5g2DS) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Work-in-progress, glue still drying. Later I'll add a layer of finer ballast which matches the Tomix track colour (there's a small patch visible centre-right).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 13, 2019, 03:40:12 PM
Shrub's up!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/39762041463_4b30ea9a38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Other angles also available.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/46674544592_685b57eaf2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs)
embankement-train-2019-01-13 (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 13, 2019, 03:50:48 PM
Shrub's up!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/39762041463_4b30ea9a38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2)
embankment-ballast-2019-01-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23zCRD2) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Other angles also available.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4811/46674544592_685b57eaf2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs)
embankement-train-2019-01-13 (https://flic.kr/p/2e7teZs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 13, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D

Welcome to Japan, and take a gander at e.g. this line:

https://youtu.be/R1OIc0YvITE?t=606

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on January 13, 2019, 04:24:20 PM
Weeds on the line, the chairman of the railway company will need to resign in dishonour  :D

Welcome to Japan, and take a gander at e.g. this line:

https://youtu.be/R1OIc0YvITE?t=606

Shan't bother ballasting then, I'll just chuck a load of greenery at mine  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 17, 2019, 03:43:48 PM
Couple of random work-in-progress photos:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4825/46724505522_ebd28130d4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ebTiCN)
embankment-construction-2019-01-17_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ebTiCN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/46039616634_a591f5b355_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d9n52G)
embankment-construction-2019-01-16_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2d9n52G) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
Excellent. What I really admire is just how busy the layout is.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on January 17, 2019, 07:09:55 PM
Looking great!, I like picture 2 especially,  the old and the new next to each other seems really typical of Japan
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on January 17, 2019, 08:07:16 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 17, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D

Don’t we all :bounce:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 19, 2019, 01:06:18 PM
Looks good, but needs more robots :D

Well if you say so...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7817/32924296328_3197578238_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SapCew)
robot-pikachu (https://flic.kr/p/SapCew) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 19, 2019, 01:13:05 PM
Meanwhile...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/31858150367_9494556d19_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QxcmbB)
embankment-construction-2019-01-19_02 (https://flic.kr/p/QxcmbB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/31858150007_2dcce9a8f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Qxcm5p)
embankment-construction-2019-01-19_01 (https://flic.kr/p/Qxcm5p) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(note: glue still drying, I take these shots after putting the requisite scenic element back on the layout to check everything looks reasonably OK from various angles)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 20, 2019, 02:14:14 PM
Onwards we plod.

Slight optical illusion with the fencing...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4899/46813274461_ef788ef3a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ejJgxK)
embankment-construction-2019-01-20_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ejJgxK) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


I will need to chip away some excess ballast. Not terribly happy with the ballast overall, but it will do.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/45898262085_3491217b40_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cVSAfi)
embankment-construction-2019-01-20_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2cVSAfi) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 21, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
Need to protect the low-ish bridge from errant large vehicles...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/31886552957_4d0939aba0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QzGVhr)
embankment-construction-2019-01-21_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QzGVhr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 23, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Today we descend a bit further down the embankment...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7852/46799176552_97f2503b4e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eiu1Jm)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eiu1Jm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/32976120328_d2d72c4cba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SeZeGL)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_03 (https://flic.kr/p/SeZeGL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7804/39886301753_cdd75349d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23LBHTP)
embankment-construction-2019-01-23_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23LBHTP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on January 23, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
I just wanted to say thank you for these excellent posts.

Japanese railways are far away from my normal interests and I know little of them.  Yet... I'm finding this layout to be absolutely fascinating.  Always something of interest, great photographs and entertaining text.

Thank you very much and I'm looking forward to lots more posts!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 24, 2019, 03:03:22 PM
Thank you for your kind words.

I must admit to making this all up as I go along, though it helps living close to the protoype.

One aspect of this hobby I didn't anticipate upon my return to it a few years back is the potential for close-up photography, which if done carefully can hide the fact that most of the layout looks like the aftermath of Gozilla's urban lunchtime.

Not much progress today, though I did locate the bit of "road" which goes under one of the underbridges:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7887/46861537441_d2aed4d370_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6)
embankment-underbridge-2019-01-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 24, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
In other news I just remembered where I put the shop sign for this olde-style Japanese general goods store, the absence of which has been a minor niggle for some time. Now I can breathe a bit more life into it - this corner of the layout is pretending to be a bit of Japan in the 1950s or 1960s (or a bit of Japan which has survived largely unchanged since then, which is not as uncommon as you might think).

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7862/46809699922_41719da5e3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ejpWXL)
tomytec-household-goods-store_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ejpWXL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 25, 2019, 04:43:49 AM
Today Railsquid's quiet Tokyo neighbourhood has been echoing to the sound of the Bodgeridoo, while various tools and victims pieces of wood howled in terror, as it was finally time for... todo list item number ca. 234 - make a little shelf for various controllers:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/45953073255_3b41bfb2bb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d1HvGt)

controller-stand-2019-01-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2d1HvGt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

I have been putting this off for ages as it would require cutting four lengths of wood to equal length, a skill which has thus far eluded me and any attempts to do such will be a guarantee of wobble, but happily my local 100 yen store (pound shop, dollar store or whatever) has recently started stocking wood in various handy sizes, some of which turned out to be the exact size I need.

Todo list item number 235: tidy up the wires...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 25, 2019, 08:41:35 PM
 :hellosign:.  :greatpicturessign:
   Looking good Ian, thanks for the updates
        regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2019, 09:08:08 PM
Many thanks, Ian, for all the excellent updates, recently. The layout is coming along very well.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 27, 2019, 08:14:40 AM
Spent a bit of time rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic, err rather a little experimental urban redevelopment.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7804/31949352107_2c66291ac9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QFfMhp)
urban-view-2019-01-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QFfMhp) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 27, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
Can see a dance studio, but no nude Trump  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on January 27, 2019, 04:01:03 PM
A nude Trump. Heaven forbid! :doh:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 27, 2019, 04:05:51 PM
A nude Trump. Heaven forbid! :doh:

Could be worse, a nude Nancy Pelosi  :sick:

Or both :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on January 29, 2019, 08:28:25 AM
Slightly different perspective...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/46189624344_408eb668ea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dnBU6w)
local-station-2019-01-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dnBU6w) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on January 29, 2019, 08:42:16 AM
Now that is one uber cool photo.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on January 29, 2019, 08:54:56 AM
Lovely.
I think that single figure on the platform really makes the photo.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Graham on January 29, 2019, 09:06:01 AM
looks really good, very impressed.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 29, 2019, 09:17:09 AM
looks really good, very impressed.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 31, 2019, 08:52:29 PM
looks really good, very impressed.
:hellosign: Got to agree nice one Ian
        regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 02, 2019, 12:53:34 AM
Thank you for the kind words.

Lovely.
I think that single figure on the platform really makes the photo.

The poor lady has been standing on that platform for months and was in just the right place for the photo.

I must say, those hills look very high when viewed from ground level...

Before (ca. 1 year ago) and after pics to remind me progress is progressing...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7883/46896841102_45f251b52d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2es7yZU)
tunnel-construction-2018-01-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2es7yZU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/46896842772_d26e87b315_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2es7zuG)
hill-area-2018-02-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2es7zuG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on February 02, 2019, 09:06:59 AM
Excellent progress in one year.  It would take me a decade to get that much done!

Your integration of the backscenes into the overall picture is absolutely first class.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 02, 2019, 11:52:05 AM
Seconded! The mountainsides are really excellent.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 02, 2019, 02:56:15 PM
I may have mentioned it before, but from a modelling point of view it's very handy that Japan is full of steep hills covering in dense growth rising up from the edge of urban areas  :beers:  :angel:  :thumbsup:

Meanwhile, we have this space at the "front" of the layout (well it actually borders on to my work desk) featuring a slightly dodgy extension boardlet needed so the track is not suspended in mid-air.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/46034643025_2506662ab4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8VzxP)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2d8VzxP) by 5651@N06/]Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/12914[/i), on Flickr

What to do? The Scenery Recycling Department brought it to my attention that I have this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7809/32007674167_b6aa9f7c74_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QLpGpa)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-01_02 (https://flic.kr/p/QLpGpa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

which is now being integrated like this:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7901/39994681273_c6b313339a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccme)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-02_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccme) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

while some unique geological formations form very quickly above:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4845/39994681333_1fab3ec964_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccng)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-02_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23Wccng) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 02, 2019, 05:58:59 PM
Good work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on February 02, 2019, 07:29:01 PM
Going by the motto "you can never have enough track", experimenting with filling in a space just right for some kind of traction depot or similar.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/28919349777_803dd580c6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L4ve9V)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/42047230770_f8713edd40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274z3NE)

....sadly not a mentality shared by doctor Beeching .....  >:D   as you can tell, I am tracking back through your thread!!  great progress you have made
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 03, 2019, 03:14:57 AM
Ta muchly, on a bit of a roll at the moment, partly driven by the desire to hide the swathes of visible plywood next to my desk.

Talking of which, the construction crews were hard at work today, despite it being a Sunday:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7889/46913263912_86aff02ed7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN)
lower-front-road-area-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

While they were busy pouring this special white concrete, I took the opportunity to add some missing cable trunking, which also partially hides a gap between scenic elements:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7834/40000740963_499d196836_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfFD)
cable-trunking-curve-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfFD) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


What's that? Where's the track, you ask? Oh, just hanging around :D

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7816/40000741023_3635f4d129_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfGF)
cable-trunking-curve-2019-02-03_02 (https://flic.kr/p/23WJfGF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 03, 2019, 04:21:04 AM
 :laughabovepost:

I guess that's one advantage of the track base. I doubt Peco would be able to do that - well, not for long, anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 03, 2019, 04:51:32 AM
I did, in a very early layout prototype, have a section of curved Kato track hanging in mid air (it crossed two other tracks on a curve and there was no easy way to support it) held entirely in place by the adjacent track pieces. It would bend downwards somewhat as trains passed over, but was surprisingly unproblematic.

Not going to try that here (Tomix is a little less robust than Kato), but I must say the track system has been very helpful for making rapid progress.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 12, 2019, 07:24:59 AM
A bit more scenery...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/32103213117_06c64b2110_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QURmNr)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-10_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QURmNr) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7905/47068611561_2d714099a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWnx)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWnx) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7849/47068611651_5dd4e0eb1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWp6)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHhWp6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7813/32127606167_d9fe3ce4d7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2019, 08:31:49 AM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 12, 2019, 08:48:28 AM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D

Hey, it's quite tidy actually, I mean you can actually see the cutting mat ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 12, 2019, 08:45:31 PM
 :hellosign: Thanks for sharing Ian the end result is superb
  :greatpicturessign:.  :thumbsup:
        regards Derek
   
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Mito on February 12, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
I like the third photo.
It proves that I’m not the only one to work in a complete muddle.   :D
That not a muddle, it's organised disorganisation.  :no:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 13, 2019, 07:36:00 AM
:hellosign: Thanks for sharing Ian the end result is superb
  :greatpicturessign:.  :thumbsup:
        regards Derek
 

Seconded!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 13, 2019, 08:29:38 AM
Thanks, though I should point out I haven't applied the final foliage yet and you can still see plaster cloth squares in places. I just sprinkled scatter on while the paint was still wet, as a base covering, which works pretty well but leaves the odd "bare" patch.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 03:10:29 PM
The camera drone was out earlier hovering over the new train depot area.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/46369788274_5ed93521ba_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dDxhyb)
depot-area-2019-02-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dDxhyb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(It is not clear why the scene was photobombed by an overscale Toby)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 14, 2019, 03:26:23 PM
Very nice to see Toby. I can see Godzilla, too, in the left-hand top corner. 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
Oh, this might be a still shot from the filming of the lost Thomas series episode "Toby the Tram Engine meets a Mutant Monster from Under The Sea" then.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 14, 2019, 04:04:02 PM
As Godzilla was soon to find out, it is not wise to turn your back on Toby.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/47093755851_f210c9fcc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eKvNTM)
toby-shed-lurking (https://flic.kr/p/2eKvNTM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 14, 2019, 08:15:10 PM
Oooh, spooky! Evil Toby!  >:D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on February 14, 2019, 11:32:03 PM
is this one of the Tomy wind-up models? i have one, and RSN i will motorise it!

I just need to get a round tuit ...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 15, 2019, 12:45:29 AM
is this one of the Tomy wind-up models? i have one, and RSN i will motorise it!

It's Tomy, it has a slit on one side which looks like it's designed take a wind-up key, but there's nothing inside and there's no drive mechanism.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 16, 2019, 03:15:45 PM

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7813/32127606167_d9fe3ce4d7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/QX1o1g) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

All a bit greener now:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/46199252775_b788f46acd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dotfhX)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dotfhX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr


Not really visible in photos, but seen here in a close-up shot, is the tunnel lining, which is a tad expensive but fits the portal exactly:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7808/47060818972_57c814cc6d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGAZUy)lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGAZUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

This particular tunnel is quite visible from my desk so it's nice to have a reasonably plausible-looking tunnel "interior".

Meanwhile I have been thinking about various unsolved conundrums (conundra?) and have come up with a couple of solutions which should be reasonably satisfactory once I find the time and willpower to implement.

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
Peek-a-boo

Looks great.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 16, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
A couple of fresh perspectives made possible by the new scenic block:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7845/47061437072_196275393c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEaDs)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEaDs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7926/32171826287_5b7d26ff5a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R1V278)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/R1V278) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7895/47061436832_af07bf300b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEazj)
upper-tunnel-curve-2019-02-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGEazj) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Yet_Another on February 16, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
... once I find the time and willpower to implement.

I read that as wallpaper first time through  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
Time for throwing stuff at a glue-slathered styrene sheet and seeing what sticks.

Before:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7889/46913263912_86aff02ed7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN)
lower-front-road-area-2019-02-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etyJVN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

After:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7908/46220873975_a076a641c6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dqo4wg)random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2dqo4wg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

After, with more junk:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7853/47143774921_5d7c103004_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ePWaPx)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ePWaPx) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
Placed in a rather dark space, but at least another bit of plywood is hidden:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/47145436131_3b7b2d2da3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eQ5FD6)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2eQ5FD6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/40180473073_b6b6332998_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24dBqM8)
random-maintenance-yard-2019-02-18_04 (https://flic.kr/p/24dBqM8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr

 hope, at some point in the dim and distant future, to paint/weather the plasticky Tomix bridge supports, but they will do for now.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on February 19, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
A shot with a train:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/40181311243_ebeeae7def_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24dFHWk)
lower-tunnel-front--2019-02-18_03 (https://flic.kr/p/24dFHWk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129145651@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on February 19, 2019, 08:13:58 PM
All looking good, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on February 21, 2019, 07:46:05 PM
Looks great, it such a small scene, but the tuft grass and debris really makes it look great!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 17, 2019, 03:30:58 PM
All quiet on the Eastern Front following a visit from General Loss von Mojo, but here a couple of random pictures...

Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo EH200-12 heads westwards at the head of a rake of oil tankers, passing a 115 series on a local service heading towards Takahachikawa:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47576717722_bf01e4d4ae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fuc7CA)
Kato EH200 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuc7CA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Dual voltage Bo-Bo-Bo EF81 69 runs light loco on a test run from the workshops following replacement of a missing pantograph:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46889093804_faec9e7425_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2erqRZN)
Kato EF81 (https://flic.kr/p/2erqRZN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Meanwhile back in the 1970s, a 183 series running an Azusa express service emerges from a tunnel:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7915/47446737182_594324c02c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fhGVWN)
Kato 183-0 series "Azusa" (https://flic.kr/p/2fhGVWN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 17, 2019, 10:31:17 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Thanks Ian, always good to see your layout & trains
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2019, 05:39:51 AM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Thanks Ian, always good to see your layout & trains
    regards Derek.

Seconded! What a wonderful variety of trains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: port perran on April 18, 2019, 06:21:21 AM
Great photographs as ever
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 27, 2019, 04:31:47 PM
In case anyone is wondering, that sound you are hearing is the
MOJO RECOVERY KLAXON!!!!
:claphappy: :toot: :claphappy:


for it has just occurred to me that much of my lack of inspiration comes from having ringfenced one corner of the layout for Knotmore Street, which has resulted in a number of compromises which look good on paper but less so in practice, and moreover the physical construction would be a recipe for dissatisfaction and not something I have been looking forward to.

So with no further ado, the plans for Knotmore Street have been put on ice then bagged up and shoved in the back of the freezer pending acquisition of more space, which is not going to happen in the forseeable future.

However, silver lining and all that, it then occurred to me that I have a stub of shelf space which was three fifths of the original "Eitetsumura" layout, which I have no particular concept for, and which would make an excellent location for a Minories-esque layout which we could pretend is a even more fictitious "New Knotmore Street" representing a suburban-traffic only stub off the GWR main line. Watch this space, as they say (but don't refrain from continuing reflexive respiratory oxygen acquisition as it may be a while before the round tuits arrive).

So, back in Japan, the core layout will remain the same, but the incline connecting upper and lower levels can be moved across the layout like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47713637991_4bbb596d85_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fGhSfT)
rear-left-corner-planning-2019-04-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fGhSfT) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(which also has the advantage of making it quite visible as I put a lot of work into it and it was previously quite hidden) and also give a stretch of mainline runnign through some countryside, which will be another opportunity for some mountainous hills to hide the other end curve. Moreover, previously it cut diagonally across the lower layout level which was rather restrictive, and now opens up other possibilities such as a stretch of tramline down a street of olde-style buildings like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46797404545_7a4c5600ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eijVYv)
tramline-planning-2019-04-27_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eijVYv) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

all of which had a place in the previous constellation but which were only visible from the rear.

Meanwhile a random picture from a section which will remain (almost) as-is:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47647782952_32d6315feb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fAtkRb)
MicroAce 155 series (https://flic.kr/p/2fAtkRb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Innovationgame on April 27, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
It's good to hear the klaxon again. :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 29, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
The observation drone has been up observing a sudden burst of construction activity:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47680296462_ceddb5a245_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fDkYYW)
overview-right-end-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fDkYYW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Some sort of elevated line is winding its way through the townscape:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47733451581_9258fbc88b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fJ3q9v)
elevated-single-line-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fJ3q9v) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A tram passes by underneath:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33856295578_dcbc2bd734_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TzLn97)
tramline-planning-2019-04-29_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TzLn97) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(actually it's not really a tram, it's a former Tokyo Metro unit converted for single-car operation on the Choshi Railway, but it's close enough).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 29, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
Thanks for the latest updates, Ian. You have made a lot of progress. It's good that you have more space for your Japanese layout to be less constricted but I am sorry to no longer see Birmingham Knotmore Street. However, there are some stretches of track which don't look too Japanese where you can still run British trains?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 29, 2019, 05:22:18 PM
Thanks for the latest updates, Ian. You have made a lot of progress. It's good that you have more space for your Japanese layout to be less constricted but I am sorry to no longer see Birmingham Knotmore Street. However, there are some stretches of track which don't look too Japanese where you can still run British trains?

Well hopefully at some point I'll get round to building, oh let's call it Knotmine Street for now on the shelf stub, that should provide somewhere for the smaller local trains to run, and of course the odd special (albeit short) excursion trains with more exotic haulage. I have in mind something along the lines of this:

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/117470-birmingham-hope-st-br-ex-gcr-minories-style-urban-layout-1965/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/117470-birmingham-hope-st-br-ex-gcr-minories-style-urban-layout-1965/)

but GWR-inspired, and in N scale, of course.

The advantage is that it will be a self-contained sub-project, though there will be a link to the rest of the layout so it can server as a (very scenic) fiddle yard.

I have a vague idea I might be able to do something with interchangeable scenic blocks on the main layout to at least be able to swap in some more British-looking scenery, we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 29, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Many thanks, Ian. I very much like the look of that fictional small Birmingham terminus. Substituting LMR for WR would enable a similarly nice mix of rolling stock and locos. I hope you'll be able to get some time to work on it, this year.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on April 29, 2019, 07:06:04 PM
Great photographs; thank you very much.

I really enjoy this layout; very different and much to be learned from it.

I'm so glad that your revised plan has resulted in your enthusiasm returning.

Thanks again and best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 30, 2019, 07:08:27 AM
 :greatpicturessign: looking very good, Ian.  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 30, 2019, 09:43:46 AM
Thanks for the comments  :thankyousign:

One of the things I like about the Japanese N gauge system(s) is the "rapid protoyping" they make possible, especially as one doesn't need to fix down every single track piece.

Here is the lower level station, making use of the extra space to have two through lines and a small goods siding (the structure visible on the right is a Japanese old-style goods shed, literally a shed on the platform.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40773376093_38a0af81e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2581dbZ)
lower-level-station-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2581dbZ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I am considering whether an additional siding makes sense, in the mean time I can play with the existing configuration to see if it "works".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on April 30, 2019, 02:36:06 PM
While I have some time to kill before a late night conference call, a bit of testing to make sure the British locos can still cope with the incline, which is basically the same as before but the lower approach has changed. Five "Blue Riband" Mk1 coaches is the benchmark, this late Poole-era Class 90 copes just fine:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32797916377_1e74b1a706_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTSR)
incline-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTSR) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


The sign says "Warning - unusual rolling stock overhead" ;)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32797916627_4ab9533eda_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTXa)
incline-2019-04-30_02 (https://flic.kr/p/RYeTXa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The incline will need to be angled over so it connects with the inner curve (the one with the brown ballast, olde-style Tomix track) which is tight but doable; this is the area where I'll need some major construction work (including another Chopstick Mountain), but based on experience with the other end of the layout it's feasible.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47688489362_5fb05c62ec_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fE4YrQ)
left-curve-planning-2019-04-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fE4YrQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Please excuse the mess of hastily removed scenic elements, they will be cut up and recycled as and when.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 30, 2019, 05:54:41 PM
Very nice, Ian. Great to see a BR train, too.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 02, 2019, 10:54:51 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
     Good to see much progress Ian,  :thumbsup:
   regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on May 02, 2019, 11:04:37 PM
Damn,  making me get my Japanese Mojo back on again!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 03, 2019, 01:39:29 AM
Incline now slewed over into more-or-less its intended position, after cutting away bits of the main line embankment (which were originally intended to support the Knotmore Street base plate, but after spending a bit of time bending over that part of the layout I realise it would never have been practical to work on).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46971511494_4823003c11_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eyHgUs)
incline-2019-05-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eyHgUs) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33883814818_6190e9e6ea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCcpDL)
incline-2019-05-03_02 (https://flic.kr/p/TCcpDL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The blocked tunnel portal is part of the first piece of scenery I made for my first layout attempt:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33883848278_e790d013aa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCczAE)
eitetsumura-2015-08-22 (https://flic.kr/p/TCczAE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I may unblock the tunnel and integrate much of it into a steep hillside which will come in very handy in this location.

The main station has been expanded by one baseplate, meaning it can now comfortably hold six-car trains:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47760799681_1f750ec6e4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fLszMt)
station-area-2019-05-03_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fLszMt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(The double slip in the foreground is slight overkill for a small local station but is a great space saver.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 03, 2019, 02:28:21 AM
All fitting together very nicely, Ian.  :thumbsup:

That bricked up tunnel always reminds me of when the Fat Controller bricked Henry in!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 03, 2019, 02:44:16 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40794776973_f2baf0ef1f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF)
james-tunnel (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

"Henry, can you hear me?" asked James anxiously.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 03, 2019, 03:13:58 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Railwaygun on May 03, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40794776973_f2baf0ef1f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF)
james-tunnel (https://flic.kr/p/259TTVF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

"Henry, can you hear me?" asked James anxiously.

"For the love of God, Montresor!” (EAPoe)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 04, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
This evening some work with sharp-bladed implements, glue, toothpicks and various items from the styrene family has resulted in an extension of the incline into the curve.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40806196743_a3441b0aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25aUqCg)
incline-2019-05-04_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25aUqCg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This handiwork will probably be hidden from the world's envious gaze by one of Railsquid's patent removable hills.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AM
That track comes in brown as well, then?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 05, 2019, 12:36:54 AM
That track comes in brown as well, then?   :hmmm:

That's the original Tomix track design, in production ca. 1977 ~ 1999 or so and available in copious amounts for little money. It is still a good base colour for representing less modern lines which haven't had their ballast refreshed much.

Kato Unitrack was also originally available in a similar shade, though there's much less of that about.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 09, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
I do also find that brown Tomix track quite useful for depicting the railway system of the former East Germany as it was in the early 1990s, such as here on the 4-track Stadtbahn which runs through the centre of Berlin.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32867213517_526248d4d0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S5n4v8)
engelscher-markt-2019-05-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/S5n4v8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 09, 2019, 07:45:34 PM
What - the Takahachikawa line also connects to Birmingham AND Berlin. That is cool!  :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 11, 2019, 03:41:25 PM
Indeed. I am "cheating" somewhat by using the line which connects upper and lower levels to give the impression of the Fernbahn (long distance) tracks on the Stadtbahn, the rearmost track is merely a siding.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32881470767_8d38dbc266_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S6C8FM)
engelscher-markt-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/S6C8FM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Said connecting line continues like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46908957865_8ed0ff8e55_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etbETB)
upper-single-track-viaduct-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etbETB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

where I am please to announce the short container train visible has reached that location under its own power.

Meanwhile, over in the countryside, a tunnel has opened up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47825166471_412f74280d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fS9tMH)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-11_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2fS9tMH) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 11, 2019, 08:25:32 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks for the update Ian, aha has Henry been released  :D
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 12, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
:hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks for the update Ian, aha has Henry been released  :D

Henry has indeed been released and has been sighted lurking in another tunnel with a smirk on his face.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46915431615_c2554ba643_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etKRiZ)henry-tunnel-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etKRiZ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Elsewhere, randomly:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46914090435_3b08f7a80f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etCYCc)
upper-single-track-viaduct-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2etCYCc) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33948194058_6153358ac1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/THTnmE)
Tomix DD51 (DD51 856) (https://flic.kr/p/THTnmE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255), this is a DD51 as in the Kyoto museum.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 12, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
A few shots for kettle fans, which as I'm sure I've mentioned before come in a number of exciting shades of black. Just experimenting with how the modified setup might look from various angles, feel free to imagine the missing bits of scenery.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33956033468_95da9ff31e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxJU)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxJU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46917041285_1285fbdabe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2etU6NV)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2etU6NV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32889424547_70223da586_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S7jU4V)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_04 (https://flic.kr/p/S7jU4V) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33956034028_b851708a11_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxUy)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_05 (https://flic.kr/p/TJzxUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40866734653_1b490fa444_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk)
c62-kamome-2019-05-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/25gfGrk) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Lawrence on May 12, 2019, 06:47:31 PM
Really must get myself a C62, lovely looking locos and I have a rake of those coaches kicking about which will look good behind it. Were they used for Royal trains Ian?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Train Waiting on May 12, 2019, 08:27:41 PM
Thank you very much indeed for these lovely photographs of steam power in action on your super layout.

No. C62 1 looks very much like the 4-6-4 that George included a photograph of in his wonderful 'Japanese Adventure' thread.

Thanks again.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: grumbeast on May 12, 2019, 08:44:21 PM
2 posts with  a c62 and an EF66!  Thank you thank You!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 13, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
Really must get myself a C62, lovely looking locos and I have a rake of those coaches kicking about which will look good behind it. Were they used for Royal trains Ian?

A brief search appears to indicate this was very rarely the case, per Wikipedia (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84C62%E5%BD%A2%E8%92%B8%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A#%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96) only C62 25 and 30 on a couple of occasions.

I see C62 25 is in the Kyoto Museum, per @Bealman's picture here (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899).

Thank you very much indeed for these lovely photographs of steam power in action on your super layout.

No. C62 1 looks very much like the 4-6-4 that George included a photograph of in his wonderful 'Japanese Adventure' thread.

Indeed!

2 posts with  a c62 and an EF66!  Thank you thank You!

I should point out neither are the latest models either, the EF66 is an old Tomix one with springworm drive probably from the 1980s or early 1990s, but which is quite reliable and I keep it around for testing the layout, though I'm also trying to do it up a little with spare parts from newer models when I get a chance. Here's a comparison between new (left) and old (right):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7896/46403338235_a75ac43dbf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dGveMM)
Tomix EF66 new vs old (https://flic.kr/p/2dGveMM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The C62 is a MicroAce model, ca. 20 years old, motor-in-the-cab foot-wide leading bogie tyres technology, but it and the set of coaches only set me back 20 quid or so and it's a solid runner, at least going forwards.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 13, 2019, 08:04:09 AM
Only when I climbed up on it in Kyoto  ;)  :)

Harping back to Japanese track (ie Kato & Tomix), and especially in light of recent threads about disguising it, it really a shame it only comes in Code 80 flavours.

I can't spot Henry in that second pic, by the way.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 04:01:51 AM
I can't spot Henry in that second pic, by the way.

Have you tried looking behind you?

Harping back to Japanese track (ie Kato & Tomix), and especially in light of recent threads about disguising it, it really a shame it only comes in Code 80 flavours.

I suspect that is one of those things like the continuing DC-only orientation which works just fine for most people and there is little impetus to change.

Now what I would really like are some Tomix 7.5º curves for slighly more subtle changes of track direction than are currently possible; currently I have to resort to cutting 15º sections in half, which is doable but not-quite-satisfactory.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33967813838_28ebfca2b9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TKBVCJ)
tomix-track-cut-2019-05-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/TKBVCJ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 04:14:44 AM
Yes, it's difficult to get sweeping type curves with this track. I'm sure it's been asked before, but is flexible track available in these systems?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 04:27:24 AM
Yes, it's difficult to get sweeping type curves with this track.

Not even sweeping curves; I just wanted to angle the front set of tracks on the main loop inwards slightly, so they're not running parallel to the edge of the front of the baseboard; 15º (the smallest curve) is too sharp.

I'm sure it's been asked before, but is flexible track available in these systems?

Kato will sell you lengths of flexitrack, but it's just Atlas stuff.

Should I ever reach a point where I know what the heck I'm doing, I could replace some straight sections with Peco code 55 flexitrack, but for now I'm more than happy with the flexibility (hah) this system offers, as I can iteratively construct the layout in the limited time I have available, while still running trains, which is the main thing right now :D
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 08:55:42 AM
Meanwhile, my skilled artisanal tentacles have hewn this section of embankment (the bit with the red diesel on it, a DD51 for those taking notes, @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) ) out of extruded foam stuff and given it a rough coat of brown paint.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40878470603_ce13a4a214_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hhR8i)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-13_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hhR8i) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This section used to be part of the incline, but as reported previously that has been shifted further around, and the entire connecting line now travels about 5/6ths of the way around the loop. The existing section of embankment leading to the tunnel has been jacked up to de-incline it.

I was also ecstatic to find I had all the bits to wire up the connecting track as its own block section, which makes running trains easier.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 14, 2019, 09:03:39 AM
Great picture. It reminds me of Hakone, so if your layout reminds me of somewhere I've been, I think you're doing something right!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Milton Rail on May 14, 2019, 09:28:09 AM
Great progress Ian, glad to hear your mojo has returned - lots of varitey on display and love the Thomas the Tank interludes :)   :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 14, 2019, 03:20:12 PM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I would have liked a gentler, greener embankment here but that would look horribly unstable and I don't want to sacrifice the road space for a shallower slope.

I also hacked out an underbridge as it provides a nice low-level view through to the station building.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32904708177_4951a9f39d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S8FemM)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S8FemM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(Please excuse the wire, it powers the rail up top, I will find a better route for it soon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 01:18:38 AM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


Glue dried, well enough to be able to remove the sellotape.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47062589534_5acee7cb7b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eGL5eu)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eGL5eu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 15, 2019, 07:28:06 AM
Looking good Ian. The underbridge is a great idea but will present some interesting difficulties when lining it. (Maybe you could pre-build the lining and then jack it in place?).

A very robust looking retaining wall too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 07:32:22 AM
Thanks - what interesting difficulties when lining it do you envision?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: keithbythe sea on May 15, 2019, 07:38:05 AM
Nothing sinister, merely the scale. But I guess that your “artisanal tentacles “ will be able to make light work of it.  :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 07:47:17 AM
All I'll do there is cut some 2mm card to shape, paint it grey, stick it to the walls and "ceiling" and pretend it's concrete :).

Similar to what I did here:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7887/46861537441_d2aed4d370_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6)
embankment-underbridge-2019-01-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZCs6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
That looks exactly like a bridge I walked under with a similar pathway. Could have been anywhere, but I suspect the morning lost in Tokyo.

Cool modelling, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 08:04:52 AM
That looks exactly like a bridge I walked under with a similar pathway. Could have been anywhere, but I suspect the morning lost in Tokyo.


I'll rummage through my Little People Box and see if I can find any which fit the description "lost tourists" ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: Bealman on May 15, 2019, 08:13:15 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

You'd have to cut the left foot off to simulate a tourist with a dodgy ankle
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: railsquid on May 15, 2019, 04:03:31 PM
Taking a break from amputating tourists, there is some more steam action today, in celebration of the very minor tweaking of some scenery in this area, including attaching some backscene bits I had from the original layout.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939873555_f8beb278ae_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2evV83K)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2evV83K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The locomotive in question is D51 498, a 2-8-2 (in Japanese terminology, the leading letter in the class specification represents the number of driving axles, i.e. C = 3, D = 4 etc.), modelled here by MicroAce in its preserved state, in which it is still operational running steam excursions north of Tokyo, pulling the very same blue JR excursion coaches as the prototype.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40889537573_f4c46d82b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25igyX8)
main-loop-bridge-2019-05-15_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25igyX8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It is of a newer model generation than the C62 we saw previously (2011 vs 1999), albeit still with motor-in-cab.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939873845_632cc33f46_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2evV88K)
main-loop-bridge-2019-05-15_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2evV88K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 15, 2019, 09:24:29 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
Many thanks for the update Ian, all is looking good
     regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 16, 2019, 06:21:58 AM
So, in today's hour of manic late evening activity, the embankment has been "faced off" with concrete "panelling" of a type frequently used in Japan to hold steep bits of scenery in place. Though currently it is itself being held in place by sellotape while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40881870613_a87a8a9a56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-14_01 (https://flic.kr/p/25hAgQa) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I would have liked a gentler, greener embankment here but that would look horribly unstable and I don't want to sacrifice the road space for a shallower slope.

Seen from the Little People perspective, while it is plausible, it does look horribly brutalist, and also has the effect of giving the impression 6000hp of Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo locomotive might fall down on you at any time.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32915887357_086e4d2959_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S9Ewxg)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-15_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S9Ewxg) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

However what's done is done, but I was surfing Mr Google's Amazing Collection of Street Views and the creative cell of my brain issued a urgent Restive Equine Restraining Order, for I saw this (https://goo.gl/maps/AoVcdcvX2JYVjx2F9) and after a brief struggle with the procrastination cell the concrete was stripped:


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47070614794_57a4a1c55e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eHtcS3)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-16_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHtcS3) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and some earthworks hastily trucked in:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32915887497_c16ae07eb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S9EwzF)
upper-single-track-embankment-2019-05-16_02 (https://flic.kr/p/S9EwzF) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Looks much better now, I dare to opine  :beers:

For anyone taking notes, the locomotive is an EF11 (by MicroAce), one of a small class of locos derived from the EF10 for work on the steeper sections of the Chuo Line. If you're still reading this, the "E" stands for "Electric" ("D" is for diesel) and (similar to steam locomotives) the "F" indicates the number of powered axles, i.e. 6, which indicates either a Co-Co or a Bo-Bo-Bo powered axle arrangement, though we can rule the latter out as AFAIK it was never used for the old-style electric locos.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on May 16, 2019, 06:54:05 AM
Sort of similar to that one in the Kyoto museum
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 19, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
Nothing spectacular, just fiddling about with the scenery in this general area...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46964954125_0464d8c6a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ey8ECn)
left-rear-corner-2019-05-19_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ey8ECn) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Kettles are all packed away, starring today is a 251 series "Super View Odoriko" by Kato, which in real life plies its trade between Tokyo and the resort areas of the Izu Peninsula to the southwest. Model and prototype date from ca. 1990 and while it has a very distinctive appearance not to everyone's taste, it's one I've seen quite a lot over the years, also it was ridiculously cheap. (The prototype is, in Japanese railway terms, clapped out old iron almost 30 years old so will be replaced soon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japan)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 19, 2019, 06:52:28 PM
Great picture. It reminds me of Hakone, so if your layout reminds me of somewhere I've been, I think you're doing something right!  :thumbsup:

Ah if it is Hakone - then their will need to be a model ryokan with some hot springs to bathe in! Brings back memories...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 25, 2019, 04:11:16 AM
Oddly enough the hillside which will arise on the left of the above section is earmarked for some hot- spring style buildings.

Meanwhile, joined all the supporting bits of that section together into one contiguous scenic block and fixed the track sections in place so they can be sceniced up with ballast'n'stuff. Here removed from the layout for ease of working on.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47927014843_6fbb414259_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g29tL8)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g29tL8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The embankment on the left is recycled from my original layout attempt.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 25, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
First round of "ballasting".

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929434167_46807060ed_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSWB)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSWB) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Not the most traditional of methods - it involves cutting 3mm styrofoam board to shape, painting it a grey-ish colour, and sprinkling fine ballast over it while the paint is still wet. Some strips have been recycled from earlier attempts. A fuller layer will be added later.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929435026_1561e52ca3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mTcq)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mTcq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929443856_f28329c41e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mVPE)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mVPE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47929434061_c81e5730cf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSUM)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2mSUM) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 26, 2019, 03:45:19 PM
A bit more embankment work, and some older trains...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47936212918_c16149e27c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g2XC2C)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-25_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2g2XC2C) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 26, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:  Thanks for the updates Ian, all looking good
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 30, 2019, 04:28:14 PM
Mainly finishing off the top of the embankment with plaster, and adding wiggly cable ducts (which is quite prototypical).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47966051941_298c9f08d3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Ay8x)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-30_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Ay8x) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Nails will be removed once the glue dries.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 30, 2019, 04:38:52 PM
Looking good @railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832) !
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on May 31, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
And I think I have a new favourite location for train shots (once it's tidied up a bit):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47969948378_74d481ee38_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Wwpu)
left-rear-upper-track-section-2019-05-31_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g5Wwpu) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Though this particular train (an E231-500 series) is normally found going round in circles in the middle of Tokyo, not in the mountains.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 31, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
 :hellosign: Certainly looking good having a day away from the city  :thumbsup:
all looking good thanks for posting Ian.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 01, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
A bit more ballasting, though it will need some tidying up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47979379936_80ca20fa43_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g6LS5y)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-01_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g6LS5y) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Apologies for the slightly out-of-focus loco, the camera is easily confused by these brown ones.

A slightly better shot:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47979323948_e5137b5e64_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g6Lzrf)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-01_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g6Lzrf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

For anyone taking notes, this is an EF15 1-Co-Co-1 1500v DC general purpose freight loco of the immediate post-war era, around 200 were built and lasted in service until as late as 1986.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 01, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
Is that the same one I saw in the museum?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899)

No, Just looking at that, the one I saw looks older.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 01, 2019, 11:58:49 PM
Is that the same one I saw in the museum?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44971.msg566899#msg566899)

No, Just looking at that, the one I saw looks older.

Yup, that's a 2-Co-Co-2 EF52 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84EF52%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A) from 1928-1931.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Graham on June 02, 2019, 12:38:26 AM
looking good, your new location for photos works well.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 02, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Today we spy a 70 series EMU, an early post-war design for medium-distance regional traffic.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47985903642_9920e3ac0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7mimf)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-02_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7mimf) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) may or may not be interested to know this is based on the 80 series EMU seen in the Kyoto museum. Technically this is actually a 71 series, a variant of the 70 series designed for running in mountainous areas, such as on the Chuo Line west of Tokyo.

We have seen the EF15 locomotive before:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47985903767_e7a87349a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g7miop)left-rear-corner-2019-06-02_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2g7miop) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 02, 2019, 11:40:37 PM
Thought it looked a bit familiar!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 05, 2019, 01:51:57 PM
Train trundles through the mountain scenery...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48001017417_d3c6b842d2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g8FL9z)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-04_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g8FL9z) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and suddenly emerges into a built-up urban-ish area:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48007142798_67bcf4e31c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g9ea1A)
main-station-approach-2019-06-05_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2g9ea1A) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is quite plausible for Japan's topography.

Low-relief skyscraper supplied by Tomix in full-relief and hacked into halves by self.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 06, 2019, 09:01:52 PM
Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 07, 2019, 02:47:17 AM
A few random shots featuring a 189 series "Azusa" express in a later livery (IIRC 1990s - early 2010s):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016439226_ea502bc56a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3NvQ)
Kato 189 series "Azusa New Colour" (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3NvQ) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016450498_f2b450cf64_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3RSb)
Kato 189 series "Azusa New Colour" (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3RSb) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016438776_d7b5e4e576_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3No5)
main-station-approach-2019-06-07_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2ga3No5) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 07, 2019, 03:08:22 AM
More great pics. I really like that train!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on June 07, 2019, 08:09:01 AM
Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Agreed, keep the photographs coming please.
Martin

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 07, 2019, 04:23:44 PM
Thanks for all the positive feedback! I still have no idea what I'm doing really, but having great fun doing it.

Happily I have been informed that the Squidlet will be absent from the house for quite a few hours tomorrow, which will give me a chance at getting the next "chopstick mountain" started.

Great stuff!

This is a fascinating layout and I really enjoy your posts.

Thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Agreed, keep the photographs coming please.
Martin


Here's one I prepared earlier :D with some classic electric traction (the EF15 1-Co-Co-1 which has been featuring recently, I imagine this scene would be in the 1970s or early 1980s, these locos were gone after about 1986 and as in many other countries mixed freight workings vanished around then too).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017206956_2cf7469fe8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ga7JJy)
main-station-approach-2019-06-07_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ga7JJy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr



More great pics. I really like that train!  :thumbsup:

It's a classic 1960s/1970s JNR era design, there were many variants but sadly most have now vanished. This model is from Kato and is a somewhat older release (and cheap as chips) but is perfectly fine, though I have some detailing plans for it when I get a chance... Come to think of it I have three other similar sets in this livery, two from MicroAce and one from Tomix (and that's not to mention all the other variants in other liveries...)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 11:35:35 AM
Today's photo was taken from the 1978 Lima catalogue.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48023463808_fa63c570e1_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gaENFj)lima-class-86-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaENFj) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr[/i]
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
Happily I have been informed that the Squidlet will be absent from the house for quite a few hours tomorrow, which will give me a chance at getting the next "chopstick mountain" started.

Unfortunately I was distracted by something non-railway-related, albeit pleasantly productive, then ended up doing some remedial work on the main (high-level) station, which was sagging slightly due to baseboard horizonality issues, so apart from some thinking about the structural engineering of said mountain, not much got done.

However later I was able to turn my attention to this section of as-yet undefined high-level track:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872822_abee827481_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2wE)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2wE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

and realised I have some concrete arches which would fill the space nicely and make a transition from non-urban to urban:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024797273_8e7d87dc57_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaMD56)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaMD56) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


to which end paint and glue were applied (in the comfort of my own workbench, you don't think I lean over 90cm of layout to do this stuff I hope?):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872912_32dcd91550_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2yd)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2yd) by Rail
Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and the resulting greyness replaced while the glue dries and I think about what to do next:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024872982_924866611d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2zq)
main-station-approach-viaduct-2019-06-08_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaN2zq) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(that space looks just right for some sort of railway paraphernalia storage or similar).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 08, 2019, 05:15:14 PM
And last one for today, a very contemporary scene with 6000hp of Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo EH200 at the head of a train of oil tanks.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48024978506_085c46c67c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gaNyWN)
left-rear-corner-2019-06-08_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gaNyWN) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The official nickname (helpfully written on the side of the locomotive) for these is "Blue Thunder", and you do certainly notice when one of these comes roaring into a station with the tanks clanking and banging behind it.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 08, 2019, 10:55:43 PM
 :hellosign:   :greatpicturessign:
 Many thanks Ian love em all   :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
In tonight's act of minor inspiration we (provisionally) fill in another gap between running lines and wall of the room with a bit more backscene and some conveniently sized houses which are prototypically close to the railway. Strategically placed trees will disguise various discrepancies such as the slightly jarring break in backscene and the fact that access to these houses appears to be available by jumping into the rice paddies behind.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030098637_35568a34f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNYV)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNYV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030015031_d564239775_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfo8r)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfo8r) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 02:39:12 PM
However I remind myself the houses above are way too modern in style (very late 20th century at the earliest), these two can cover a much wider time period:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030097721_d77064cf63_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNH8)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_04 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbfNH8) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030202122_df9776486b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbgkK9)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbgkK9) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 09, 2019, 03:11:27 PM
From another angle:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48030380817_9508bdb5bf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gbhfS6)
main-station-approach-2019-06-09_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2gbhfS6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 09, 2019, 09:27:01 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of very interesting photos. I particularly liked the Lima BR train.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2019, 12:49:38 AM
I have a strange liking for older stuff, maybe ersatz nostalgia for the N gauge trains I would have had when I was young.

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) this is my sole Odakyu model, a "10000 HiSE" series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380647_9df573791f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380667_77a43e91e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavti)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavti) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Purchased during an earlier, less focussed phase when I wasn't too acquainted with what I was buying, and it turned out to be an older (late 1980s or early 1990s) Tomix model with their less-than-stellar spring worm drive mechanism, which is quite noisy, so it doesn't get out much.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 11, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
Tonight the Permanent Way Men have been along with their Very Big Hammer to temporarily hold a mini-embankment in place while the glue dries.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48043627412_f3fdb2ca40_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcs9BE)
main-station-approach-2019-06-11_06 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcs9BE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Those nails are, ironically, sold by Kato for the purposes of affixing track in place, but their primary purpose has turned out to be fixing bits of scenery in place while adhesive processes progress towards their desired end state.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 12, 2019, 04:06:49 PM
I have a strange liking for older stuff, maybe ersatz nostalgia for the N gauge trains I would have had when I was young.

@Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) this is my sole Odakyu model, a "10000 HiSE" series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48040380647_9df573791f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX)
Tomix Odakyu HiSE 10000 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcavsX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
 

Looks just like Bealman's photos from earlier! Very cool.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 12, 2019, 04:21:15 PM
Not looking like any of @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) 's pictures is this JR East 253 Series Narita Express train, dating from the early 1990s (this Kato model is from ca. 1991) and retired from service around 2011 (though a couple of units have been retained for use on other lines):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48049821136_b691b241ef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcZTN1)
main-station-approach-2019-06-12_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gcZTN1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 12, 2019, 04:55:24 PM
And just for fun, another EH200 shot:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050033552_e5781b6906_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gd1YWm)
kato-eh200_3045_05 (https://flic.kr/p/2gd1YWm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and here its predecessor, an EF64-1000 series from the early 1980s (again Kato, very recent model):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050086422_d84ccc60e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gd2fDU)
main-station-approach-2019-06-12_03 (https://flic.kr/p/2gd2fDU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Strictly speaking the EH200 was intended to replace pairs of EF64s, though single-loco workings of the latter on shorter freights were/are common (there are still a few around).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 12, 2019, 10:02:11 PM
Great pictures of nice looking trains, Ian.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 13, 2019, 04:24:58 PM
Right, well enough of that colourful nonsense, we're back to the Age of Brown in any shade you want as long as it's like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48055884208_aed30c6b7b_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/2gdwY8J)Kato EF13 (https://flic.kr/p/2gdwY8J) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr[/i]

Here we see a factory-fresh Kato EF13 and coach set ploughing into the mountains west of Tokyo on the Chuo Line, probably sometime in the 1960s. It must be winter as the freight-only EF13 (on passenger duty as it has the necessary traction for the many gradients) is followed by a steam heating generator coach ("MaNu34") to keep the passengers nice and comfy. (Loco is fresh out of the box and I have yet to fit the number plates).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: port perran on June 13, 2019, 04:30:54 PM
Chocolate trains - what a neat idea  :D

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 13, 2019, 04:48:29 PM
 :hellosign: Looking splendid Ian, thanks for posting
             regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 13, 2019, 07:40:54 PM
Railsquid san - I've lost track of how many locos you must have! Always new photos! What's your guess?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 13, 2019, 10:30:23 PM
Now that one I most definitely like!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
Railsquid san - I've lost track of how many locos you must have! Always new photos! What's your guess?

The number of locos (or more specifically powered stock) can be expressed as the "Hobby Constant", a hot topic of advanced mathematical research and which represents a paradoxical number which can never be precisely defined yet which is simultaneously Not Enough and Too Many, but which is increasing monotonically. In accordance with Einstein's little-known Theory of Domestic Relativity the size and rate of change appears different depending on the viewpoint of the observer and their role in the household (the "not another bloody train" phenomenon).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 14, 2019, 08:43:20 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Well he did ask!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Innovationgame on June 14, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
It sounds a bit like Schrodinger's time independent equation.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 09:15:33 AM
Something like that, though I make sure I store my trains in boxes free of both cats and radioactive isotopes to minimize the risk of unintended quantum surprises.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 14, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Ah I recognise this theory, which is starting to gain lots of empirical support in the field of N gauge, and may soon become a "Law". I also subscribe to the Hobby Uncertainty principle - if members of the family believe a loco or train has been purchased, but they can't see it, does it really exist?
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 14, 2019, 10:36:50 AM
I'd put Maxwell's equation in here,

Except I'm on me phone and don't know how to get the fancy symbols  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 14, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
I'd put Maxwell's equation in here,


Is that the instant coffee formula?

Meanwhile I have rummaged in the Catproof Interdimensional Train Box (necessary to prevent the Stash from collapsing into a spontaneous black hole, though Mrs. Railsquid contends that has already occurred with the Railway Room/Office) and for a change we have an actual diesel, in a fetching brown livery albeit with a daring white stripe:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48061401006_c8b460f198_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ge2f5W)MicroAce DF50 (DF50 2) (https://flic.kr/p/2ge2f5W) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a DF50 (by MicroAce; Kato re-released their version to go with the coaches, but I have this one already...), and those of you who have been paying attention will remember the "D" stands for "Diesel" and the "F" (if converted into a number) represents the number of powered axles, i.e. 6, though that doesn't give you the bogie arrangement, but (surprise) it's Bo-Bo-Bo.

Now, the Chuo Line is the main railway artery running west from Tokyo, looping through the centre of Honshu and eventually reaching Nagoya, but the terrain is much less hospitable than the coastal route (Tokaido) so as built, the line was full of switchbacks and gradients etcetera. However the section from Tokyo to Kofu (the first big-ish town over the mountains) was electrified by 1931 and the line is associated with a fascinating plethora of electric stock, but whatever steam there was in the Tokyo area on this line appears to have largely faded from memory.

West of Kofu was a different matter, as electrification didn't kick off again until the 1960s, so the EF13 previously shown would have been taken off there and replaced with a kettle, or later a DF50 (or more likely a pair of DF50s) for the onward journey.

For an impression of the railway scene in the area I'm talking about, take a look at this page: http://kokuden.net/mc53/sub100/sub100-1/sub100-1-tyuse.htm (http://kokuden.net/mc53/sub100/sub100-1/sub100-1-tyuse.htm)

(Worryingly I appear to own models of most of the trains depicted apart from the one with the chimney).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 14, 2019, 03:59:29 PM
I love the title! “Nostalgic Chou Line” and what great photos!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 14, 2019, 10:39:13 PM
 :hellosign: :greatpicturessign:
  Thanks Ian your a mine of really useful information
    regards Derek
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 15, 2019, 12:06:15 AM
A fascinating collection of photographs.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 15, 2019, 08:55:25 AM
What a fascinating post!  Thank you very much indeed.

I noticed a very nice lower-quadrant stop signal in one of the photographs; it has a vaguely GWR look to it.

The mixture of Japanese and western characters is interesting.

Finally, would it be possible for you to post your recommended 'Beginners Guide to the Railways of Japan' map.  I could play 'Google Roulette' but it would be much better to have a map chosen by an expert.

Thanks again and all best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
What a fascinating post!  Thank you very much indeed.

I noticed a very nice lower-quadrant stop signal in one of the photographs; it has a vaguely GWR look to it.

Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing a mechanical signal here (outside of museums and old photographs), but they do look quite British in style, which is unsurprising as the railway network was originally developed (in the 1870s) under the direction of a British engineer, and if you visit a railway musuem littered with kettles you can throw a stone and have a good chance of hitting something with a British maker's plate (before being escorted off the premises by security). Which reminds me, I must have another rummage in the Transdimensional Box.

The mixture of Japanese and western characters is interesting.

Finally, would it be possible for you to post your recommended 'Beginners Guide to the Railways of Japan' map.  I could play 'Google Roulette' but it would be much better to have a map chosen by an expert.

I am not sure what is available in terms of online maps, a quick spin of the Google roulette wheel doesn't bring up anything particularly recommendable.

Wikipedia has a nice overview of the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Japan
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
The infamous 'transdimensional' box is not a unique phenomenon to Japan. One exists at Cant Cove. It is believed to have been a spare from the TARDIS donated by Susan, Doctor Who's granddaughter. Among its many amazing qualities is that, just like the TARDIS, its outside is infinitely smaller than its interior! 8-)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 15, 2019, 11:36:01 AM
Meanwhile something a bit more colourful fell off the back of an auction site in the form of a 205-3000 series "Hachiko Line" train from the house of Kato:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48065390156_867b8629b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2genFVo)
Kato 205-3000 series (Hachiko Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2genFVo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The "Hachiko Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik%C5%8D_Line)" runs between Hachioji Station on the Chuo Line and the town of Kawagoe north of Tokyo; astute readers will notice that Takahachikawa also contain the syllables "hachi", and indeed Hachioji station is one of the inspirations for the layout location, so it would be remiss of me not to have some trains of the other lines which go there.

The 205 series was the last major commuter train series produced by JNR (the former state railway) before its privatisation in 1987, but is slowly being phased out, having long vanished from the more central routes, with many set being cascaded to secondary lines such as the Hachiko Line, but even here the last 205s were withdrawn last year. Some have been sold to Indonesia where they are enjoying a second lease of life in Jakarata.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 15, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Thanks Ian
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
...
if you visit a railway musuem littered with kettles you can throw a stone and have a good chance of hitting something with a British maker's plate (before being escorted off the premises by security). Which reminds me, I must have another rummage in the Transdimensional Box.

We interrupt this timeline to take you back to 1872, when Steam Locomotive Number One, fresh out of the Vulcan Foundry, hauled the first scheduled train service in Japan between Tokyo and Yokohama:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072720622_4709322465_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2g1J)
MicroAce Class E (Class A1, Class A150) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2g1J) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

However at this point I must report a Scale Violation, for this model is actually 1:120, though it does of course run on N gauge tracks (which do then become more-or-less in scale for Cape Gauge).

The original is on display at the Railway Museum in Omiya:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4878/45419438274_f283a3e076_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ccyuBm)
P1020856 (https://flic.kr/p/2ccyuBm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

I have some better pictures somewhere, this is from 10 years ago.

Note the model is based on the locomotive in its original form, it is preserved in a later, modified state.

Normal timeline and scale service will be resumed soon.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 04:35:08 PM
So, fast-forwarding a century or so, the rake of excitingly brown coaches would, towards the end of its life, have been hauled by a locomotive in a colour neither brown nor black, specifically an EF64:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072318783_549ec2c681_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt)MicroAce EF64 (EF64-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

If you refer to your notes you will recall "E" is for "Electric" and "F" for 6 powered axles. The EF64 (as with all electric locos with a class number of 60 or later) is a post-war "second-generation" design, i.e. an oblong box without the leading unpowered trucks typical of "first generation" designs, and unsurprisingly it has the wheel arrangement Bo-Bo-Bo (as probably mentioned previously, Co-Co is also available, but rare). Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only), a tradition which continues in principle to the present day, albeit with many exceptions. (Diesels, when not brown, were/are usually a red/orange colour, but Japan went largely from steam to electric traction with diesels playing only a secondary role).

Unfortunately this locomotive as depicted is only a placeholder, for it bears the post-privatisation "JR" logo (and is also fitted with a train radio antenna, the stubby grey thing on the right of the cab roof, which puts it at some time in the 1980s) so is not prototypical for the carriages depicted, which lasted in some form until ca. 1975, so I am considering what options are available to obtain an early EF64 in prototypical form, as the options are suprisingly limited (Kato, who make the coaches, helpfully point out that an early EF64 version would be appropriate, but unhelpfully fail to actually make one; MicroAce do, but it is of an older model generation than the one depicted so not as well detailed).

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 16, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only)

While we're at it, here's a red one:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072808241_b0e7871b50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p)
Eidai ED75 (ED75 91) (https://flic.kr/p/2gf2H4p) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Somewhat off the reservation here, as this is an AC-only ED75 (D = a mere 4 powered axles), a numerous class prevalent in the AC-electrified ares of northern Japan and Kyushu, which is interesting from a modelling perspective as there have been numerous takes on it from different manufacturers over the years. This is from a short-lived outfit from the end of the 1970s called "Eidai", who raised the bar in Japanese N scale production, but ended up as a victim of their own success. This model dates from 1979 or 1980, but is not all that far behind contemporary models and is a perfectly viable model for everyday use on a modern layout.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 16, 2019, 11:24:10 PM
Keep 'em coming, Ian!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 18, 2019, 02:03:47 PM
Oh go on then... While I had the Vintage Model Box open, we slip only a couple of years back down through model (as opposed to prototype) history and see another ED75, albeit of a much cruder nature:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48079928693_f9f54f2440_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEcHP)
Tomy ED75 (ED75 513) (https://flic.kr/p/2gfEcHP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is one of Japanese toy giant Tomy's early forays into N gauge from ca. 1975, initially outsourced to Kader/Bachmann in Hong Kong, and this one comes in a case almost identical to early Bachmann ones:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/616/32479123426_28ab7bd37f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ru4ZQE)
tomy-ed75-box (https://flic.kr/p/Ru4ZQE) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

A very noisy but quite reliable runner and reasonably to scale, but those deeply inset cab windows could have been designed by Lima.

Tomy insourced production to their own factories in Japan from the late 1970s, around which time the Tomix brand emerged, and the quality of models improved enormously (competition from the above mentioned Eidai and other manufacturers will no doubt have helped).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 18, 2019, 09:12:57 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks for the   :greatpicturessign: Ian & many more words of useful wisdom   :thumbsup:
    regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 19, 2019, 12:27:37 PM
Especially for @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) , as the subject came up in another thread:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48091545621_c78660ff95_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggFK2F)
Dapol Class 35 "Hymek" (D7014) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggFK2F) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The bright light behind the headcode presumably represents Harold Wilson's "white heat of technology".
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 12:38:51 PM
  :laughabovepost:

So that's the workin one then  ;)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 12:41:53 PM
But seriously, isn't that one of the best looking BR locos ever.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 19, 2019, 01:12:20 PM
I've always thought they look a bit "dorky".

Not that that stops me owning two more :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48091764633_f9d4264531_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggGS8K)
Dapol Class 35 "Hymek" (D7001 and D7011) (https://flic.kr/p/2ggGS8K) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: grumbeast on June 19, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
Looking good, one of my favourite BR loco's and yes I get it about Dorky, but still lovely
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 19, 2019, 11:54:49 PM
Totally spoiled them when they painted 'em blue  >:(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 20, 2019, 08:22:45 AM
Totally spoiled them when they painted 'em blue  >:(

That's a very interesting point, George.  I agree completely (although I only ever saw blue ones in BR service).

To me, and I happily acknowledge that it is purely a personal preference, the slippery slope commenced with the small warning panel and got steeper and more slippery thereafter.  Although the 'Western' class in green with a small yellow panel looks good... but not as good as a 'Castle'!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 20, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
Having grown up in the BR Blue era, I must say the green liveries are nicer, *but* the blue ones are more "real" to me, if you see what I mean.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 20, 2019, 03:44:43 PM
Anyway enough of this green and blue nonsense, time for a bit of red:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48097940723_8a050755fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfw54)
Microace 413/455 series (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfw54) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

This is a 3-car 413 series AC/DC EMU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/413_series) built ca. 1986 using the better bits of older EMUs which were in dire need of replacement for service on the Hokuriku Main Line on the northern coast of Honshu (the other side of the island from Tokyo etc.).

You can tell it's AC-compatible by all the gubbins on the roof around the pantograph:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48097992732_15a07d1e5f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfMwL)
Microace 413/455 series (https://flic.kr/p/2ghfMwL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

DC-only units have much less in the way of electrickery bits there.

If you look carefully, the car on the left has a different door arrangement - that's because it's actually a 455 series intermediate trailer car converted into a driving car, the 455 series being one of the older EMU series in need of replacement, but a couple of younger ones were deemed to be in sufficiently good condition for conversion, rather than constructing a completely "new" car.

This unit is completely outside the layout's Chuo Line, 1500V DC remit, but it was an early random purchase and it ticks the box "Frankenstein mixed-formation train made out of bits of other trains" so I will keep it around.

Incredibly this unit is still in existence, albeit in a slightly different colour scheme:

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0jSxcH6k4)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 20, 2019, 11:00:08 PM
Have you ever considered a job as an educator, Ian? Cos you're sure as hell educating me!  :thumbsup: :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 21, 2019, 08:22:36 AM
Have you ever considered a job as an educator, Ian? Cos you're sure as hell educating me!  :thumbsup: :beers:

And me!

Thank you. 

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 21, 2019, 03:22:44 PM
Well then, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, gather round the internet for the next exciting installment of Railsquid's Obscure Japanese Trains:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103085458_a834490b1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghGTqo) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

What's that, you say? It's the same one as yesterday? Most certainly not. Pay attention and count the number of passenger doors on each side, please. That's right - 3 sets of doors, whereas yesterday's train only had two sets.

That's because this is a 115 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/115_series) (2000 subclass), one variant of a fairly standard JNR design of EMU mainly for outer urban/regional stopping services on main/main-ish lines, so in contrast to urban commuter stock has 3 instead of 4 sets of doors, slightly more comfortable seating and toilet facilities.

This set was built in 1981 for the Minobu Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minobu_Line), located a fair way to the west of Tokyo "behind" Mt. Fuji, and which links the Tokaido main line to the Chuo line (hence my interest).

Now, if you were paying attention yesterday, you'll be able to tell whether it's an AC unit, or DC only:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103146762_03a14d13fb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcDm)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcDm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Answers on the back of a 10,000 yen note addressed to Railsquid, Railsquid Mansion, Tokyo, Japan.

Additional totally useless fact: when running as 4-car units, an additional cab unit was placed in the centre of the formation to provide additional guard accommodation, don't quote me on this but it may to cope with platforms shorter than the train.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48103146687_d3f374c9d9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcC4)
Kato 115-2000 series (Minobu Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2ghHcC4) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


These vanished from service somewhat before the advent of universally available portable video recording, so are somewhat sparsely represented on YouTube, but here's a 3-car set:


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlDUJtxWHRE)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 21, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
Please Sir; runs on DC only.

Just like Poppingham!

I wonder how much 10,000 Yen is in Pounds...

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 21, 2019, 11:50:21 PM
73 pounds 15 pence
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 01:31:32 AM
Please Sir; runs on DC only.

Just like Poppingham!

But not 1500v DC, I wager.


I wonder how much 10,000 Yen is in Pounds...

73 pounds 15 pence

Correct, or approximately one Union Mills steam locomotive. Congratulations, you have won today's prize, a special commemorative set of Lima wheelsets (today's second prize is two special commemorative sets of Lima wheelsets).

From a modelling perspective, the 115 series is by Kato, I can't be bothered to look up when this set was made, but the tooling/design is fairly typical of the period ca. 1985 - 2005, i.e. it's a decent model and a vast improvement over earlier models, with features such as properly inset windows, motor mounted below window height, generally improved detail and paintwork, but not quite up to the standards of current production. They are however very good value for money and a few simple improvements can make a difference, in particular in the area between cars, which is wide enough to jump a motorbike through if you get the timing right (tricky if the train is moving, so don't try this at home):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1848/44127433731_48e3a4d709_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCEX)
Kato 115 series (old-style) original (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCEX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Replacing the rapido couplings with Kato "Scharfenberg"-style close(r) couplings reduces the gap, while adding corridor connectors fills most of the rest:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1900/44127433961_e8191eedac_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCJV)
Kato 115 series (old-style) modified (https://flic.kr/p/2aeoCJV) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The corridor connectors are available in copious amounts as spare parts, they're designed to clip in place, but these older trains don't have the necessary slots (and it's not feasible to add them) so the clips need to be removed like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47570018752_de93cca86b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ftAMg7)
kato-z06-0227-horo_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2ftAMg7) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr


and the corridor connectors glued in place; I use a PVA-like glue available in Japan which is actually intended for wood, but I find it much easier to work with than glues intended for plastic, as it's easy to remove without damaging the body if it gets in the wrong place, but it is firm enough to hold the connectors in place; example from a different train:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46898616984_e83a82ec37_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEUy)
kato-165-series-corridor-attachment_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEUy) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46898617064_2ff28a2f36_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEVW)
kato-165-series-corridor-attachment_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2esgEVW) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Anyway after all that technical detail, here's a nice older (ca. 1979) film of the aforementioned Minobu Line, which used to be home to an attractive variety of older trains cascaded down from more prosoperous lines, and at the end you can even see an English Electric locomotive:

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxYXYcVOetw)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2019, 02:19:56 AM
I'm afraid the last two vids don't show on my phone  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 02:32:39 AM
I'm afraid the last two vids don't show on my phone  :hmmm:

They look fine on both my computers.

No idea what the correct incantation is for mobile display; I added the direct Youtube link...
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Graham on June 22, 2019, 03:04:18 AM
Hi Ian, the vids did not show for me either, on Win10 pc running Edge browser. Link worked fine.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 22, 2019, 03:42:01 AM
Yeah, the links work, thanks! The vids show on my tablet, so they probably will on me laptop too.

I like the old 8mm film!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 07:56:49 AM
So, fast-forwarding a century or so, the rake of excitingly brown coaches would, towards the end of its life, have been hauled by a locomotive in a colour neither brown nor black, specifically an EF64:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48072318783_549ec2c681_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt)MicroAce EF64 (EF64-42) (https://flic.kr/p/2geZcyt) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

If you refer to your notes you will recall "E" is for "Electric" and "F" for 6 powered axles. The EF64 (as with all electric locos with a class number of 60 or later) is a post-war "second-generation" design, i.e. an oblong box without the leading unpowered trucks typical of "first generation" designs, and unsurprisingly it has the wheel arrangement Bo-Bo-Bo (as probably mentioned previously, Co-Co is also available, but rare). Around the same time someone at JNR (Japanese National Railways) discovered the concept of paint which is neither brown nor black, and for whatever reason (apart from very early examples) the second generation locomotives generally came in blue (1500v DC) or red (DC/AC or AC-only), a tradition which continues in principle to the present day, albeit with many exceptions. (Diesels, when not brown, were/are usually a red/orange colour, but Japan went largely from steam to electric traction with diesels playing only a secondary role).

Unfortunately this locomotive as depicted is only a placeholder, for it bears the post-privatisation "JR" logo (and is also fitted with a train radio antenna, the stubby grey thing on the right of the cab roof, which puts it at some time in the 1980s) so is not prototypical for the carriages depicted, which lasted in some form until ca. 1975, so I am considering what options are available to obtain an early EF64 in prototypical form, as the options are suprisingly limited (Kato, who make the coaches, helpfully point out that an early EF64 version would be appropriate, but unhelpfully fail to actually make one; MicroAce do, but it is of an older model generation than the one depicted so not as well detailed).

And here it is, and my wallet GBP20 or so lighter:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48106870761_1ce79e9ce3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi3hEe)
MicroAce EF64 (EF64-3) (https://flic.kr/p/2gi3hEe) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The model is 18 years old and by the sounds of the occasional screech will need stripping down and lubricating in all the right places, which is likely to be fiddly as I think this is a split-chassis design.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 22, 2019, 08:09:51 AM
Hi railsquid,

Have only been hitting the 'thank you' button so firstly to say thanks properly for all the great pics.

Also thank you for the corridor connector post. I need some similar ones for some '70s French coaches I bought on ebay. All of them are missing the connectors and I couldn't find anything that would look right but those ones painted black might fit the bill.

I hadn't heard of Kato ASSY before so thanks for the part number. Only seem to be available in Japan and my computer doesn't seem to like translating Japanese although it did with the 'Model Train Plus' site so will get some from there unless you know of a better option? As they are light and not too expensive I hopefully won't be fleeced by postage and import tax.

Too many thank yous there so Cheers, weave  :beers:

PS. Can't see vids either  :(



Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
Hi railsquid,

Have only been hitting the 'thank you' button so firstly to say thanks properly for all the great pics.

Also thank you for the corridor connector post. I need some similar ones for some '70s French coaches I bought on ebay. All of them are missing the connectors and I couldn't find anything that would look right but those ones painted black might fit the bill.

I hadn't heard of Kato ASSY before so thanks for the part number. Only seem to be available in Japan and my computer doesn't seem to like translating Japanese although it did with the 'Model Train Plus' site so will get some from there unless you know of a better option? As they are light and not too expensive I hopefully won't be fleeced by postage and import tax.

Yup, parts mainly only available in Japan unless they're for Kato's overseas models.  'Model Train Plus' has a good reputation, I've met the proprietor on a couple of occasions and he's a very nice guy.

If you put "カトー assy ホロ" (or even "kato assy horo", eek) into Google Image search etc. you can get an overview of the bewildering variety of available corridor connectors.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 22, 2019, 05:12:38 PM
And today's colour is "orange", as we leap back into the present day with this Chuo Line E233 series EMU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E233_series#E233-0_series), which is the mainstay of commuter services on the Chuo Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Line_%28Rapid%29) from Tokyo Station usually as far as Takao on the edge of the urban area, where the Kanto Plain hits the hills, but sometimes beyond, even onto the private Fujikyu line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujikyuko_Line) which runs down towards Mt. Fuji. There is also a spray of Chuo Line branches served by this train.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108206311_d914cdee73_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8EX)
Tomix E233 (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8EX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Introduced in 2006, and currently undergoing midlife refurbishment which includes the addition of toilet facilities, as these trains do have some quite long runs. Standard train length is 10 cars, though they do split into 6/4 car units on some of the outer branches. There is a plan to add two double-decker reserved seat cars (as present on other longer-distance commuter lines), though that will involve extending the platforms on 50+ stations, and it's not clear how long that will take.

I should note that the JR lines in the Tokyo area each have their own distinctive line colour, which is used not only on the trains but also as the line "branding", as well as on the network maps. The Chuo Line is orange, which has some historical background I will touch upon when we've dialed back a couple of train generations.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108206406_a3559e94a7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8GA)
Tomix E233 (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2gia8GA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by Tomix, detailing added by previous owner (in the first photo the pink stickers on the windows indicate the car is reserved for ladies only during the morning rush hour).
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: cornish yorkie on June 22, 2019, 09:47:29 PM
 :hellosign: Many thanks Ian, all splendid info &   :greatpicturessign:
      regards Derek.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 23, 2019, 02:55:02 PM
So, let's take a break from identifying trains and consider this very bare and desolate end of the layout:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113840721_ce405d5901_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1zX)
left-side-hill-2019-06-23_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1zX) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The plan is to hide it under mountainous scenery, upon which will reside various hot spring resort buildings.

We make a start by repurposing some scenery from an earlier layout iteration which was gathering dust on a shelf by converting it into a narrow, steep windy road (for access to the said hot springs, though for purposes of better  access we'll imagine there's another route friendlier to larger vehicles).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48113840826_5850142d28_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1BL)
left-side-hill-2019-06-23_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2giE1BL) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 24, 2019, 03:35:51 PM
Today we see some scenic acupuncture, aka how to hold the facing wall in place and maintain a subtle concave curve while the glue dries. I usually use what the Blue Peter presenters used to delicately refer to as "sticky tape" wrapped tightly around the scenic block in question, but that's not really practical here.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48120455508_c7d7857c94_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjeUW1)
left-side-hill-2019-06-24_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjeUW1) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It was previously almost vertical, but there is now space for a slightly less severe slope.

The section of road it supports was originally meant to be a two-lane main road, but the incline is a little on the steep side; the width will be reduced to a narrow mountain road more suited to the climb.

Also the tunnel engineers have been hard at work, mildly inconvenienced by the discovery of an expanded polystyrene layer in the local geology.

Assiduous takers of notes will no doubt be able to identify the train in the background.

Meanwhile my attention was grabbed by this magazine in my local bookstore:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48120509163_2089fc474c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjfbT6)
rail-magazine-2019-08_vol-431 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjfbT6) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

which has a big feature on the history of the Chuo Line, including many pictures I haven't seen before and which have caused some hurried additions to the "must purchase" list.

The train featured on the cover is a 115 series, a different variant to the Minobu Line one we have seen previously, and which will no doubt be subject of a future post or two.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 01:13:21 AM
Have we ever seen a layout plan, Ian?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 03:32:15 AM
Have we ever seen a layout plan, Ian?  :hmmm:

I'm sure I've posted plans before, maybe in a predecessor thread, but the last printed plan I have now bears very little relation to the reality on the ground. When I get a chance and the whole thing doesn't look too much of a bomb site, I'll post some aerial photos (with track-obscuring scenery removed where feasible) which should give an idea of how it fits together at whatever point it's evolved to by then.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 03:44:57 AM
Thanks!

Bit like my layout...  can't provide a complete plan 'cos it's not finished, and probably never will be, unfortunately.  :(
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 04:22:36 PM
And in today's episode of the Never-Ending Layout Story, some more work on integrating the Repurposed Scenic Block into the current scenery configuration:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48126953242_eb0bb5d105.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU)
left-side-hill-2019-06-25_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjPdtU) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

It's starting to fit together, both literally and figuratively, and the above view is one I can see from the comfort of the office chair, and it will be quite spiffing to see trains pop in and out of the tunnels, I reckon.

From another perspective, albeit one only available by holding the camera at an unnatural angle:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48126863556_f503e24b76.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjNKPA)
left-side-hill-2019-06-25_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjNKPA) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

We have not yet been introduced to the orange train, bonus points to anyone who can identify it.

The blue/light grey one is a Shinkansen coach which is my go-to clearance tester.

Tunnel portal by Peco, @Bealman (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) will be interested to know I found it in the shop he purchased his Kato locomotive in.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Train Waiting on June 25, 2019, 07:58:51 PM
Thank you for these pictures.  You certainly have the scenic work under control.

As for the orange train...  I'm not totally sure (a jolly good euphemism!), but I think it's a commuter train (lots of doors) and DC only (not a lot of pantograph-related gubbins).

No bonus points for me; then!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 25, 2019, 11:30:40 PM
I thought it was a Peco portal. Interesting source!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 25, 2019, 11:44:45 PM
Orange Class 201?

If it is I cheated so please donate any bonus points to charity. If not, 'I got it wrong again dad' but am learning more about all this Japanese stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 25, 2019, 11:55:23 PM
Orange Class 201?

If it is I cheated so please donate any bonus points to charity.

Correct!

Your bonus points have been donated to the Tachikawa Area N Gauge Addiction Therapy Group, where they will be used to wean sufferers off their impulse to purchase new N gauge trains, oh sod it Tomix have a new one out this week.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: weave on June 26, 2019, 12:10:01 AM
Is it a Kato 10-374?

I had just Googled 'orange Japanese commuter train photos' and something by 'tutenkhamunsleeping' on the N Gauge Forum from March 2018 came up about 8 pics down  :).

Enjoy your new purchase.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 26, 2019, 12:41:50 AM
Is it a Kato 10-374?

I had just Googled 'orange Japanese commuter train photos' and something by 'tutenkhamunsleeping' on the N Gauge Forum from March 2018 came up about 8 pics down  :).

Actually 10-370, I think 10-374 is the 4-car add-on set.

This 201 series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/201_series) model dates from ca. 1997, the protoype from ca. 1980 when it was launched as the first of a new generation of commuter trains with more efficient electrickery bits resulting in substantial (ca. 30%?) power consumption reduction compared to the earlier designs. It replaced the mix of 101 and 103 series trains, though the latter survived on the outer branches for a few years.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108616936_acbda85667_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The cab windows were a new, more modern-looking design, but the car bodies followed the conventional commuter train pattern, thought this was the last class to carry the all-over colour.

Replace ca. 2006 - 2008 by the previously seen E233 series.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108617001_f495b56e0e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceKP)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceKP) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Webbo on June 26, 2019, 12:44:58 AM
Hi railsquid

I can see why you and others like Japanese railway modelling. The passenger trains you show look very good with great variety and the quality of the models looks excellent.

Webbo
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 01:39:11 AM
Since my trip, I must admit I've become very interested in Japanese models.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 26, 2019, 06:20:00 AM
They certainly are addictive.  It's the advantage of N being the dominant scale here and a wide range of trains from multiple manufacturers being available at usually quite reasonable prices and with consistent quality. Though I'd say the level of detailing is generally somewhat behind current British models and there is often a bit of self-assembly required. On the other hand there's also a huge range of 3rd party detailing parts etc. available.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48108616936_acbda85667_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG)
Kato 201 series (Chuo Line) (https://flic.kr/p/2giceJG) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

The cab windows were a new, more modern-looking design, but the car bodies followed the conventional commuter train pattern, thought this was the last class to carry the all-over colour.

Taking a brief step away from the Chuo Line, this is the successor class, the 203 series, which is basically the underground version of the 201 series designed for through-running between JR's Joban Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dban_Line) in the north east of Tokyo and the Tokyo Metro Chiyoda Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metro_Chiyoda_Line) (which connects with the Odakyu line linking Shinjuku with Odawara/Hakone, though at the time these were running, JR trains didn't run on it at all). This class marks the transition to the aluminium body with horizontal colour stripe which was carried through to the E233 series, but retains the classic body design, the last class to do so.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48047036228_cfe5394785_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gcKBWm)
MicroAce 203 series (https://flic.kr/p/2gcKBWm) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr

Model by MicroAce, special edition representing the set on its final run in 2011 with commemorative headmark etc. Unlike other manufacturers MicroAce tend to provide models completely complete and specialize in very specific representations of particular sets at particular times. They do then tend to be somewhat more expensive (unless you fine them as absolute bargains, like this one, new it cost me less than the RRP of two Farish Mk1s  :thumbsup:).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4810/46027895971_ed222cb83e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2d8jZTi)
MicroAce 203 series (https://flic.kr/p/2d8jZTi) by Rail Squid (https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 07:33:52 AM
Now that's a great price! I really wish I'd bought a few more Kato locos that day in Tokyo. They're such beautiful runners.
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: keithbythe sea on June 26, 2019, 07:41:55 AM
Hi railsquid

I can see why you and others like Japanese railway modelling. The passenger trains you show look very good with great variety and the quality of the models looks excellent.

Webbo

Yes, I fully agree.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Buffin on June 26, 2019, 10:50:47 AM
Quote
It's the advantage of ... a wide range of trains from multiple manufacturers being available at usually quite reasonable prices and with consistent quality. Though I'd say the level of detailing is generally somewhat behind current British models and there is often a bit of self-assembly required.

Here in the UK the reviews and the market stress mega detailing, which must raise prices. Japanese real railways seem to produce so many prototype variations, and we can only envy the speed with which the Japanese model market follows suit  :)

For someone who loves a multiple unit, it does make Japanese modelling more tempting!
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: Bealman on June 26, 2019, 10:54:36 AM
You and me both, Buff!  :beers:
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on June 26, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
Fascinating stuff, I remember the orange ones from my time in Japan in the late 90s'. I used to live one year in Ogikubo and one year near Mitaka (both West of Tokyo - see line map):
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/6745-260619164743.png)
I'm getting quite nostalgic. I hope to get a business trip in to Japan maybe 2020 and I can check out all the new trains. I will ask advice from Squid-san and Bealeman on what railway related sightseeing I should do....still very interested to see the Maglev.

@railsquid (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3832)  - Is there no part of the layout that could hide a few tunnels and a dead straight maglev line? Surely the Tokyo to Nagoya extension will pass right past Takahachikawa ?  :)
Title: Re: Takahachikawa (Japanese layout)
Post by: railsquid on June 27, 2019, 01:21:33 AM
The Maglev, I believe, will be largely built in tunnels, particularly underneath the Tokyo area, so anyone who wishes to imagine its presence swooshing by deep beneath the baseboards is free to do so.

Takara-Tomy (parent company of Tomix) do a toy-like representation of it, though to be honest it's not a mode of transport which particularly appeals to me, either as model or prototype.


Fascinating stuff, I remember the orange ones from my time in Japan in the late 90s'. I used to live one year in Ogikubo and one year near Mitaka (both West of Tokyo - see line map):
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/78/6745-260619164743.png)

Ah yes, Chez Railsquid is literally up the road from Mitaka. I've spent a fair bit of time over the last couple of years with the Squidlet on the bridge over the depot there.