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Title: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 19, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
Hi,

Long time no post.

Thought I'd start a new post on my WPR layout and its progress. Still trying to get the new shed ready. Hopefully this weekend I can get a start on it.

However I have been buying up some new rolling stock. I've several Peco Wemyss and Fife Coal wagons ready for weathering.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/DSCF0385_zpsa99277d8.jpg)

Also got a number of Peco wagon kits for the steel Butterly and 7 plank wagons. Weather permitting these will be undercoated at the weekend.

Also got other wagons that have been painted and decalled using decals from Robbies Rolling Stock for other Fife coal mines. Gonna need loads of coal wagons.

Updates as and when progress is made.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on February 19, 2013, 08:33:27 PM
Good to have you back mate, I see you have been busy!
Hows the new shed coming along?
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: moogle on February 19, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
Ah, coal wagons.
Are any of these any use:

http://www.mathiesonmodels.com/Original-N-range.php (http://www.mathiesonmodels.com/Original-N-range.php)

I've a few of them, great detail and very free wheeling!
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 19, 2013, 10:09:26 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Its not. :(  Need to get digit out and make a start at weekend.

Hi Moogle,

Nice wagons but I need to stick with my Fife area theme. ,ay buy some of the kits though.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 20, 2013, 07:31:22 PM
Well what do you know. Without even thinking about it I got out me paint tray and started weathering my coal wagons.

I'm trying different methods of weathering on these. First off I wanted a faded look on some of them. Although the coalmines were nationalised in 1947 some of the wagons retained their Wemyss livery well into the early 60's.

First off I have given 2 wagons a light coat of white. Then after about 10 mins I used some cottons buds soaked in IPA and started to rub some of the excess white. This gave a patchy faded look. The wagon on the left is with the white coat and the one on the right after a cleaning with IPA.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/DSCF0394_zps1d4100f8.jpg)

On some other wagons I did the opposite. They were given a coat of Bauxite Brown to tone down the brightness of the wagons. The Wemyss wagons are somewhat brighter than the Fife Coal ones.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/DSCF0409_zpsdfcf567c.jpg)

Tomorrow I'll started adding the various washes to tone them down even more.

Alex :wave:

 
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: bluedepot on February 20, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
hi

what does wpr mean?

good luck with the layout


tim
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 20, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Hi Tim,

The WPR stood for the Wemyss Private Railway. It was an independant railway used to haul coal from the various coal mines on the Wemyss Estate in Fife to the local docks for export.

It remained in private hands until the late 60s early 70's when it ceased trading.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: bluedepot on February 20, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
ahhh ok cheers for info

what locos did they operate?


tim
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on February 20, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
Nice to see your famed skills back in action, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 20, 2013, 09:45:38 PM
Tim,

They used a variety of engines, namely Barclay 0-6-0Ts, J94s and one that looked a bit like a Jinty.

Hi Newport,

Thanks. Hopefully this will be the start of my 'rebirth' as they say.  :D

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on February 21, 2013, 09:18:13 AM
It should be above zero this weekend Alex so no excuses not to get out to the shed  ;D
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on February 21, 2013, 01:12:22 PM
It should be above zero this weekend Alex so no excuses not to get out to the shed  ;D

Mental note to self - quote this to Lawrence on Friday night :D
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 25, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
Hi,

I was in the shed yesterday adding some more insulation and ply lining. Hopefully this wioll be finished this weekend. Then I'll make a start on the upper layout framework.

Also finished off some of the wagons.

These are the 2 I undercoated with a white wash first. The iron works were gone over with Humbrol dark grey or as we used to know it Panzer Grey. The plank detail was done using a very thin almost watery mix of turps and black. Using a fine brush this was touched onto the iron braces allowing it to flow into the plank details. I find this picks out the planks and adds an extra depth to the model.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0415_zps0be70366.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0431_zps709a9373.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0420_zps4a1e91c2.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0424_zpsfea3ea82.jpg)

The other 2 photos show wagons I did a couple of years ago. They use decals from Robbies Rolling Stock and depict other coal companies from Fife.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0429_zpsbf9b918d.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0430_zps351a8891.jpg)

I have more wagons and decals on order and plan to do a mix of these coal wagons plus steel Butterleys in NCB markings.

More to follow.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Caz on February 25, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
My rake of Fred R Cole of Lechlade wagons are in the post to you,  ;)  Seriously, cracking job you've done there, I'm ok at quite a few things, but weathering I just don't seem to have the knack of.  :(
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Phil Wray on February 25, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
These look really great (where's the emoticon for green with envy?)

A I picking up right that you didn't buy Fife wagons but out your own labelling on plain wagons? They look super, and I wish I could get some!

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on February 25, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
Hi,

Thanks for your comments.

Caz, it's just a case of trial and error and don't overdo it. The upper photo of the two wagons only have two basic colours. A wash of white and dark grey on the black metal posts. The chassis will have a final dry brush of light brown. This is then followed by running very thin black in between the planks.

Phil, the top four photos show Peco ready to run Wemyss and Fife Coal wagons. The bottom two photos are Peco wagon kits with decals applied. You can see where the decals cover the metal bracing. I didn't do a very good job on these as there are still some air bubble under them. Still need to practice this. technique.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on February 25, 2013, 08:13:17 PM
Hi Alex,

I particularly like the "Lochgelly" wagon, that is where my mum was born and I still have a cousin living there  ;)

I have a Fife wagon, in fact it was the first piece of n gauge I bought and it was only bought because of the Fife on the side and the addiction took over from there  :laugh3:  :laugh3:  :laugh3:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 03, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
Hi,

It's been a busy couple of days in the shed. First off I have almost finished lining the new shed. Ran out of boards but there's enough done to let me start on the upper level layout.

I started to strip out the old layouts and it was quite disheartning to do this. All the effort that went into them seems to have been for nothing but I needed more room.

With the new shed being 13ft X 5ft it will keep me busy for a long time. I've learnt at lot from building the old layouts and hopefully I'll incorporate some new ideas into the new ones.

2 views of the old shed. The upper layout has already been removed.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0542_zps9be37939.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0543_zpse9f0225d.jpg)

The new shed with the old upper level in place. This is 52" from the floor and is slightly lower than the old layout. Only done about half the layout as I now need to buy more wood to finish the rest of it.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0545_zpsa968b2d9.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0544_zps9f7ae29c.jpg)

This layout is going to need some supports from the roof to keep the front edge from sagging. On the old layout it was quite small so there was no need but on this one the main run will be almost 10ft so it need some sort of support.

As you can see there's still mush to do but I wanted the layouts up by April so I'm on schedule.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 03, 2013, 06:14:18 PM
I can well imagine how disheartening it would be ripping out all your hard work, but as you say, you did learn from doing it so #2 will be interesting especially how you are going to disguise the supports to the roof.

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 03, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
Hi John,

These will be layouts number 5 and 6. The main US layout will be 10" below this one. I reckon I will need 3 supports on each long side of the shed. The ends will be fine.

I may try some angled supports underneath. Need to have a browse through the local DIY stores and see if they have anything.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on March 03, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
My thoughts are with you Alex, I have destroyed several layouts to build something new, I agree with what you have learned will help build better layouts in the future, I look at it as a type of apprenticeship.

SWMBO will go ballistic if I do it again so I copied your idea of building one layout above the other and about 15 inches wide round the perimeter of my shed, both British and have only got as far as laying the track on the new one.

Good luck with it all mate and look forward to seeing the progress.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 03, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
Hi Dave,

Yup double deck layouts are the way to go. There's few Forum members who now run this system.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 03, 2013, 09:04:08 PM
My first thoughts were "What a scene of destruction :o" but I am sure you'll have things looking great again very soon. It will certainly keep you out of mischief for some time :D
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 03, 2013, 09:12:34 PM
Hi Newport,

Yes it was a bit destructive but I've saved almost 80% of the scenics etc for the new layouts.

Not sure how easy the main layout will be to dismantle. It wasn't put together with the intention of coming apart again. But hey ho....I've started it so I'll finish it.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 03, 2013, 09:26:33 PM
Alex
if you use supports from the floor up to the lower level you can double the supports up as shelving supports later on.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 03, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Could do, but remember there will be a much bigger lower layout as well. It'll have to be a bracket type support or one coming down from the roof.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: mr magnolia on March 04, 2013, 07:01:31 AM
Alex
if you use supports from the floor up to the lower level you can double the supports up as shelving supports later on.

Do you get much bounce from the floor though, if you prop from it? Alex boards all have that issue removed by being wall mounted just now. (I'm pondering shed options too - watching with interest!)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on March 04, 2013, 07:40:49 AM
Could you use large catelever brackets 'upside down' for the upper shelf?

e.g. http://www.doorfurnituredirect.co.uk/scpro/bernards/productdetailsmore~productid~4545.htm (http://www.doorfurnituredirect.co.uk/scpro/bernards/productdetailsmore~productid~4545.htm)

If it worked it would remove the need to have vertical posts interrupting the view and access to either or both layouts.

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 04, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
Hi,

The floors not too bad. I braced it every 18" when I built it.

I'm swaying towards the bracket option myself. There won't be a lot of weight on the layout and its only 9" wide.

Keep watching, as they say.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 05, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
Somehow I have missed these posts possibly started when I was visiting the Uk. Firstly great weathering the little green envy man is working overtime.

Second good luck with the rebuild. My layout looks much like that at the moment and thats just because I am a wee bit beyond untidy.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 09, 2013, 04:47:33 PM
Hi,

Been in the shed today positioning some track to get an idea of how it will look.

Starting at the back wall there will be the wagon works.

As the track comes around the corner there will be 3 storage sidings.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0598_zps5fbfd3d6.jpg)

The main line is at the bottom. The main line then curves back up towards the back wall. In front of these will be the wagon works.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0603_zpsa6018216.jpg)

The bottom track is a branch line. The next 2 will be the wagon works and the next one up will be an engine shed. The upper track is the main line.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0604_zps016cdb76.jpg)

As the main line goes past the wagon works it starts to climb and at a point behind the works is crosses over the top of the branch line.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0605_zps8a510937.jpg)

The line then meanders through the countryside gradually coming down to base level again.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0606_zps6e6b36d1.jpg)

On the short left wall will be the Isabella pit, or my version at least. I may have to extend this board by 3-4" to get the building in. The lower track actually goes through the building to get the wagons loaded. The upper 2 tracks are for storage.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0608_zps1364ac1d.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0610_zpsafe9a8ea.jpg)

The remaining 2 sides will have a small goods yard, again based on a local one and a station.

Still not sure what to put on top of the boards. The old layout had polystyrene ceiling tiles. May get them again. Not doing much tomorrow so I plan to remove the old lower layout and fit it into the new shed. Then I'll see what I need to buy, wood wise, to get both layouts finished.

Alex :wave:

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 09, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
You are making great progress Alex  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Caz on March 09, 2013, 05:53:37 PM

On the short left wall will be the Isabella pit, or my version at least.


Looks really promising, looking forward to seeing this develop and thanks for posting, but one question, what the heck is an "Isabella pit"
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 09, 2013, 06:01:22 PM
It was a coal mine Caz  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 09, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
If it's a reasonable day tomorrow, weather wise, I'll go and take some photos of what remains of the Isabella pit.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on March 09, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
Looking real good Alex, nice to see you removed most of the glued foam off the old layout, a devil of a job if like me you use a load of glue.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 09, 2013, 08:09:17 PM
Fascinating start, Alex.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the WPR evolve :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 10, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
so am I  :D :D
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2013, 09:42:55 AM
Blizzard here! whats it like your way?
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on March 10, 2013, 10:02:05 AM
'Morning Lawrence. Hope you don't get snowed in.

Down here in the tropic of Sevenoaks there was a feeble attempt to drop a few flakes but now just dull and damp.

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2013, 11:50:04 AM
Bit of snow wont stop us Dave, unlike down Souf where things seem to grind to a halt at the merest hint of a snowflake  ;)
Still snowing but even the little local roads like ours are clear already, see what the morning brings  :worried:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on March 10, 2013, 02:27:57 PM
Bit of snow wont stop us Dave, unlike down Souf where things seem to grind to a halt at the merest hint of a snowflake  ;)
Still snowing but even the little local roads like ours are clear already, see what the morning brings  :worried:

I regret to say that it is true. We're not all wimps but SE trains will cancel trains at the mere suggestion of snow.

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 10, 2013, 05:59:59 PM
Got a few hours to myself today so busy in the sheds.

So from this...

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0614_zps1209a120.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0613_zps7c32eaab.jpg)

To this...in the space of an hour.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0615_zpse8d25d65.jpg)

Then on to this....

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0617_zps0a255c7b.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0616_zps4cb53d25.jpg)

The main frame work is 2ft wide. The ends are about 18", although that can be expanded if need be. The other side will be 10" leaving a 2ft operating well in the middle. Just enough for my slender frame. The 10" section will have a through line and storage sidings for various trains.

Not entirely sure what the US layout will consist of but I'll think of something.

My next priority is to block off the existing door and cut a new one in the middle of the window wall. Then fit the remaining baseboards for both levels.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 10, 2013, 06:18:06 PM
Smashing  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

2' for your slender frame - that rules out anymore visits from Lawrence then  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John (now wearing flak jacket and hankie with knots in the corners)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2013, 06:37:46 PM
Smashing  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

2' for your slender frame - that rules out anymore visits from Lawrence then  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John (now wearing flak jacket and hankie with knots in the corners)


Oi slim, (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/bad/censored-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/censored-emoticon-2032.html) behave yourself  >:D
Looks great Alex and a good run for some big passenger consists  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 10, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks.

Seeing your layout again Lawrence gave me the oomph to get on with mine. Hopefully progress will be swift.

It should look good for running some long US consists.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 10, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
Lots of potato fields and farms with loading docks for your BAR freight and a nice big processing plant to handle them  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 10, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Hmmmm, good idea.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 13, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
Hi,

As most of the buildings on my WPR layout are going to be scratchbuilt I have decided to start with the Wemyss wagon works.

For those interested there are a number of photos of it here.

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/93379/digital_images/wemyss+private+railway/??&sort_typ=archnum&sort_ord=asc (http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/93379/digital_images/wemyss+private+railway/??&sort_typ=archnum&sort_ord=asc)

The engine shed could house 1 engine but was the same length as the wagon works. Access to the works from the engine shed was via two large doors. Inside the works were small turntables that allowed the wagons to be moved about within the works.

I'm currently drawing up some plans and hope to make a start at the weekend. The basic shell shall be made from 30 thou plastic card. I will skin the outsides with brick and wooden plank sheets. The engine shed doors and one set of works doors will be open. There are some small out buildings to the left of the works. The doors on these should give me a rough idea of the dimensions.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
Looks a fascinating building, Alex. I hope yours will be in better nick, though :D
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 13, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
Hi Newport,

A very interesting building. Small mistake, it didn't have turntables but small tranverses that moved the wagons about inside.

The works and surrounding buildings were demolished in 1994 and the area landscaped to obliterate all signs of the railway days :(

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on March 13, 2013, 09:48:38 PM
Some very handy reference material there Alex, looking forward to seeing your layout develop  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 13, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Hi Dave,

Thanks. There's quite a lot of WPR photos on the 'net. I also have the 'bible' for any WPR enthusist.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/ol100-150_zpsed4df435.jpg)

Loads of photos and OS maps of the various track plans.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 14, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
Hi,

While browsing the local DIY store this evening I came across packs of fibreboard underlay for wooden floors. This looks ideal for my layouts.

Each pack is 24 and I reckon I would need one and a half. They looked about 2ft square and there were at least 8 sheets to the pack. Need to go back and take some proper measurements.

Also need a pack of framing. 8 x 2.4m lengths for 11.

Pocket money on 25th. Already spent. :D

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 14, 2013, 07:13:32 PM

Pocket money on 25th. Already spent. :D

Alex :wave:

So I take it my birthday present on the 29th won't be arriving them  :'(  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 14, 2013, 07:47:55 PM
Hi John,

Sorry, layout comes first :P

Tell you what. Let me know what you would like and I'll send a photo, can't get better than that.  :laugh:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 17, 2013, 06:39:23 PM
Hi,

Well another 8 hours in the shed this weekend. The end door has been blocked off and a new one cut out.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0646_zps45dbd8ea.jpg)

Where the new door is the upper level will be fixed in place, while the lower level will have a lift out section.

Most of the lower layout framework is in place. Still got to finish of the upper layout. Should complete that during the week.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0643_zpsda47c476.jpg)

I have bought some wood fibreboard and placed that on the lower. Nothing is fixed in place yet on this level.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0644_zpsb4496128.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0645_zpsc30ce783.jpg)

Still a lot to do. Needs a coat of white paint on the walls. Hopefully both levels will be finished by next weekend and I can get some track down and possible run some trains.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on March 17, 2013, 08:03:21 PM
Well done Alex things are coming along great  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 17, 2013, 08:12:40 PM
Thanks Dave,

Hopefully the fibreboard won't react too badly to to PVA glue. May try a sample piece first.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 17, 2013, 08:55:41 PM
Is that the floor insulation Alex?  be interested to see how you get on with it.
You did better than me this weekend, I managed 1 hour in the shed  :(
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 17, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
Hi Lawrence,

It's the stuff you put down under wooden laminate floors. I saw a post by another forum member who had used it but can't find the original post.

Cuts ok with a sharp stanley knife and its about 4-5mm thick. You get 19 sheets per pack and size is not far off 24" x 36"

Alex aka Ales  :D :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 17, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
 :-[ fixed  :-[
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Paddy on March 18, 2013, 11:20:22 AM
Hi Lawrence,

It's the stuff you put down under wooden laminate floors. I saw a post by another forum member who had used it but can't find the original post.

Cuts ok with a sharp stanley knife and its about 4-5mm thick. You get 19 sheets per pack and size is not far off 24" x 36"

Alex aka Ales  :D :wave:

Hi Alex,

I used the laminate floor underlay.

You can see my post on the link below relating to HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
Hi Paddy,

Thanks for the link, much appreciated.

What did you use to glue the fibreboard down with? I was going to go out tonight and glue down a small section with PVA but it chucking it down with snow just now.

Maybe tomorrow.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 18, 2013, 07:53:44 PM
Hi Paddy,

Thanks for the link, much appreciated.

What did you use to glue the fibreboard down with? I was going to go out tonight and glue down a small section with PVA but it chucking it down with snow just now.

Maybe tomorrow.

Alex :wave:

Ditto Alex, hovering around one degree here, very white with lots more blowing about, apparently we are getting this for 48hrs  :(
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2013, 08:04:58 PM
Hi Lawrence,

Yeah, tell me about it. I'm supposed to be going to Auchroisk distillery, near Keith tomorrow then over to Aberdeen, via Turriff and Ellon.

Better pack my emergency gear. :worried:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 18, 2013, 08:12:10 PM
We are supposed to be getting the white stuff here for 48 hours as well  :'(

Time to get the Nanook of the North outfit out again - makes me look soooo cute  :angel:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 19, 2013, 07:16:30 PM
Despite what I said last night I did glue down a couple of pieces of the fibreboard. Went to check it tonight and it is stuck solid, no lumps bumps or anything. As flat as flat can be.

Glued down another 3 pieces tonight. I'll try and get the last two frames for the upper layout done tomorrow evening, then the MDF on top and then the rest of the fibreboard.

I may even get some trains running at the weekend. :goggleeyes:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 19, 2013, 07:18:53 PM
Forecast doesn't look good for you guys - keep safe and warm :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 19, 2013, 07:25:56 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:   

Missed your  update  on the shed    :doh:  sign  of old age you know   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Looking superb  cant wait to see some track down  &   a  loco   / stock   on  rails   ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 19, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
Hi Nick,

 :thankyousign:

Really made good progress over the past couple of weeks. The rolling stock is adding up but a severe lack of suitable locos. Been looking at Ebay for some additional J94 0-6-0 locos but they go quite high. Another wagon order will be placed next Monday when i get paid.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Hi Paddy,

Thanks for the link, much appreciated.

What did you use to glue the fibreboard down with? I was going to go out tonight and glue down a small section with PVA but it chucking it down with snow just now.

Maybe tomorrow.

Alex :wave:

Hi Alex,

I used neat PVA glue and placed books on top of the board to keep it flat whilst it dried.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 19, 2013, 09:38:14 PM
Hi Paddy,

I placed weights on top of the boards as well and used neat PVA. It seems to be ok so far. I suppose the test will come when I start to use plaster bandages for the terrain.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
Hi Paddy,

I placed weights on top of the boards as well and used neat PVA. It seems to be ok so far. I suppose the test will come when I start to use plaster bandages for the terrain.

Alex :wave:

Hi Alex,

It may be worth sealing the board surface before you start.  This can be done with paint or a PVA solution.

Paddy
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 21, 2013, 07:05:41 PM
Thanks for that Paddy, I'll try it on a test piece first.

The last of the framework is up and the MDF has been glued in place. Visiting the in/out Laws tomorrow night so Saturday will see the rest of the fibrboard fitted to the upper layout.

On Sunday I can start to lay out the track and see if all my ideas fit.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 22, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
Hi,

Your probably getting fed up with this already but I need to keep posting updates to keep the enthusiasm going.

In/out law visit was cancelled tonight so out to the shed. The upper layout is now fully covered and glued in place.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0651_zpsc1de891f.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0652_zpsa6ccc2b9.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0649_zps6d65964d.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0650_zpsf0474b29.jpg)

The lower level is half done but I'm in no hurry to finish it. My main objective is to get the upper layout track down and make a start on the scenics.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2013, 08:37:54 PM
Always happy to see progress being made, Alex :thumbsup:
Apart from that, there aren't too many double decker layouts on the forum. At this rate you'll be outstripping Lawrence, and he's not half as busy as you! :-X
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 22, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
Hi Newport,

Thanks. It now needs a good tidy up as well.

I think Lawrence is jealous 'cause my sheds bigger than his.   :laugh3:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 22, 2013, 09:43:11 PM
I think Lawrence is a bit hacked off because his visitors arrived at 4am this morning  :goggleeyes:
Given it was my niece visiting during some R&R from Afghanistan I don't mind so much, especially as she flies back out there on Monday  :(
Let you off this time Alex  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 22, 2013, 10:46:22 PM
Hi Alex   :wave:

Always good to  see your progress   although i wish i  had a shed   :hmmm: the double deck   idea  is great  lets hope the tracklayers  arrive this weekend to  start   ;) :claphappy:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 23, 2013, 12:05:52 AM
Hi guys,

Thanks. Tracklayers scheduled for Sunday.

Lawrence I have a great respect for all our troops in Afghanistan, all my best to your niece.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on March 23, 2013, 09:42:33 AM
Will do Alex even though she is not in the forces, she wanted to give something back to the troops so took a job with the NAAFI out there, making sure our lads & lassies have their home comforts, but she lives in the same accommodation as them and has her own body armour which she has to wear.  Frankly I wouldn't get out of bed for what they are paying her, and certainly wouldn't work in a war zone for it, but I am proud of her for doing it.  Silly season will start soon out there, just in time for her going back.
 :oopssign:  :sorrysign: :offtopicsign:  :-[
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 23, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
Hi,

Well the painters were out this morning and the tracklayers put down some track this afternoon.

Starting at the bottom left corner. The storage sidings.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0653_zps98278b12.jpg)

To the left what will be the wagon works. The track along the top edge will be elevated. The next one down will be an engine shed and the other 2 for the works. I have a track plan for this and there are no storage sidings for the works, just the tracks leading into the buildings.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0654_zps11afb93a.jpg)

The track then meanders down the rest of the back wall. Near the corner will be a level crossing and a crossing keepers cottage.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0655_zps618491c8.jpg)

Coming around the corner we see a loop and some sidings. This is based on a track plan for the sidings at the village of Kennoway were I lived for 20 odd years. This siding should be on the outside of a curves but space restrictions has meant I have put it on the inside.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0657_zps4bacdf12.jpg)

Heading up the other side there will be the Isabella pit (colliery). I need a couple of left hand points to complete this.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0659_zps86471735.jpg)

Going by the track plan the track went through the building and onto the sidings at the other end. From this I would assume the wagons were loaded up then pushed out to the sidings. The get them out it would appear that the engine went through the building to hook up the wagons and take them to the washer at Methil docks.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0660_zpsfe2fb332.jpg)

The lower siding will be for the delivery of various items for the pit.

The track then continues down the wall and and onto the bottom wall. Here will be the Wemyss brick works. Need some more points fir this.

 (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0661_zpsed1cb280.jpg)

The landscape is mainly open country and relatively level. Not deep cuttings or tunnels. Some small inclines and the WPR track crossed over the North British Railway track, such as behind the wagon works.

Once I am happy with the positions I will replace the sidings track with pieces of flexi track cut to size. I have 32 yards of the stuff so plenty to go around. At the moment I still have enough track to do one complete circuit of the main  lower level, but no points left.

Tomorrow will be the big switch on day. I'll wire up the track and get some locos running. Can't wait. :bounce:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 23, 2013, 08:50:02 PM
Well done Alex, you certainly have been going at it today  :thumbsup:

I hope all goes well for the big switch on tomorrow  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 23, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
Hi John,

Thanks. Hopefully all will go well.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 23, 2013, 09:00:03 PM
Hi Alex  :wave:   

Look  forward to seeing  a loco  or two on  rails   ;)   will it  be  a  ribbon  cutting  of the WPR   layout on  video  i wonder   :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 23, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
Hmmm, there's a thought. Just ordered another 12 wagon kits from Hattons, they've none left now.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 23, 2013, 09:22:02 PM
Hmmm, there's a thought. Just ordered another 12 wagon kits from Hattons, they've none left now.

Alex :wave:

I'll  ring  Peco   on Monday morning to  ask  them to  increase porduction to keep  up  Alex   :smiley-laughing: 
Which   wagons have you ordered this time ? 
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 23, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
Some more 7 plank and Butterely wagons. Wanted some 5 plank ones to make into solid buffer wagons but they didn't have any. :'(

Always gonna need wagons.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 24, 2013, 05:27:24 PM
Hi,

The sidings are starting to fill up.

The storage sidings

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0678_zps63ae01dc.jpg)

The Kennoway sidings

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0667_zps15f40f15.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0668_zpsf948f392.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0671_zpsbcbbd52d.jpg)

The Isabella pit

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0672_zpsf4abc3ca.jpg)

This area will have the 5 plank Wemyss and Bowman hard buffer wagons.

And finally, no fanfare, I added some power to the track and had some engines running round. All powered bu just a pair of wired fishplates, at the moment. I intend to run wires underneath the boards all the way around and add droppers every 3ft. A short video of my Grafar GP tank. It's a bit dark as I need to add another light at one end of the shed.

 (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0664_zpsbfacde8b.mp4)

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 24, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
Some great progress there, Alex :thumbsup:
Would I be correct in thinking you're using code 80 track? If so, I have some small electrofrog points going spare. I also have some insulfrog if preferred. Drop me a PM if interested. :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 24, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
Hi Newport,

I use Peco setrack (is that code 80?) points, curves and straights with flexi track thrown in for the long straight bits. All points are insulfrog. My 0-6-0 GP tank and saddle tank engines don't have any problems with the insulfrog points.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 24, 2013, 06:15:48 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:

Those sidings are looking  superb with  the weathered wagons   :claphappy:  cant get the video to work though   :'(
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 24, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
The video plays fine for me Nick, have you wound up the big key on the back of your computer recently  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

It must have been so good seeing your GP Tank racing round Alex, it looks really good going through the bends, all nice and smooth  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Phil Wray on March 24, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
V, :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 24, 2013, 07:06:49 PM

And finally, no fanfare, I added some power to the track and had some engines running round. All powered bu just a pair of wired fishplates, at the moment. I intend to run wires underneath the boards all the way around and add droppers every 3ft. A short video of my Grafar GP tank. It's a bit dark as I need to add another light at one end of the shed.

([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/th_DSCF0664_zpsbfacde8b.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0664_zpsbfacde8b.mp4[/url])

Is it the picture here you clicked on  John  to see the video as it doesnt work   says the image has been moved  above the picture here in Alex's post i   get a blank  space  between the  text above & pic.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 24, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
Hi,

Nick, I've altered the post with the GP video, should work better.

Yes, nice to see some engines running again. While I was out I got the big boys out and put my 'other' Wemyss train through its paces.

 (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0695_zps1c0dec8d.mp4)

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on March 24, 2013, 07:14:18 PM
That is a much better looking beast  :heart2:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 25, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Track testing tonight. Ohh ok then running trains.  :D

Used one of my US locos to test all the points and sidings. All ok apart from one, which should be easy to fix.

Then ran my Grafar GP tank with 27 coal wagons and a brake van. No problem even at slow speed, took 2 mins to go around the layout.

Wonder how many US freight cars I can haul around the layout. :hmmm:

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 25, 2013, 11:03:13 PM
Hi  Alex  :wave:   

Thats better with the videos both play fine now  ;)

Love the way the locos  follow  the curves  you  will   have some  great features there with the scenery   :)

Your  U.S.    locos will   haul  a good long train there in the space you have  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 30, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
Hi,

Some more work on the layout today. First off I tackled the track power. I ran 2 wires under the boards and joined them together forming 2 complete circles. Then using my tried and tested wired fishplates I fed a pair of these from the track through the board. I didn't fancy soldering these to the main wires upside down so I got some connectors from Maplin. These slide over the wire on onside. You then add your joining wire, ie the fishplate power feed, into the other side. Using a pair of pliars you clamp down on the cutting/joining blade. Then snap the protective cover in place and that's that job done. You then do the same to apply power to the main wires. Hopefully the photo will help explain it.

The feed from the controller is on the left and the track feed is on the right.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0744_zps032e90d5.jpg)

For additional track feed all I do is drill a hole, feed the wire through and use the connectors to connect to the power wires.

Next on the list was the backdrop. I used a tin of light blue emultion and added some white clouds.

I also did some scenic work on one corner. The Mosquito is from the local airbase and is a Corgi diecast.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0735_zpsaad96bcc.jpg)

Close up of the area. Still some additional details to add. At the end of the middle track you can just see the Wemyss tool wagon with the pitched roof.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0731_zps6c7a4c5f.jpg)

At the other end of the layout I extended the Kennoway sidings around the corner to give an extra bit of room as it was a bit cramped.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0736_zps31038303.jpg)

This will be for my coal merchant.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0739_zps17cf6647.jpg)

Finally a look down the layout with the small scenic area in the left corner, Still loads to do. On the right you will see a pile of houses. These will sit in front of the track and represent some miners houses.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0742_zps6400651d.jpg)

Alex :wave:

 
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on March 30, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
Hi  Alex  :wave:

You are making good progress    :claphappy: putting us all  to shame  :) 

Might have asked you before sorry if i  have but where did you get the Bedford TK   coal  truck  from   as i   would like to have one for my layout sometime  ;)

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 30, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks. Just got some spare time so making the most of it.

The truck is a PG Models MK flatbed. It should be a TK but I liked the look of the MK. I did do a Gem Bedford TK into a coal hopper as well but thought the cab was too tall.

The Gem Bedford it the empty one.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/N%20Gauge/100_7423.jpg)

Alex :wave:

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on March 30, 2013, 08:08:04 PM
Crikey Alex you don't waste any time getting things up and running, looking good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: The Cuckoo on March 30, 2013, 08:12:56 PM
I like the invasion striped Mosquito.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 30, 2013, 08:14:56 PM
Thanks Dave,

I'm on me Easter hols and don't go back to work until Thursday so may get some more time in the shed this week. Need to keep plodding away as I want to get started on my US layout, but need most of the upper one done first. As you can see from the photos I'm using the lower layout as a workbench just now.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on March 30, 2013, 08:18:31 PM
Hi Cuckoo,

Yup the Mosquito is one of my favourite aircraft. Often regarded as the worlds first multi-role combat aircraft.

This is a Corgi diecast model and near enough to 1/148th scale and makes no difference.

I'm pleased to say I wrote a book on the Mosquito Mk XVIII Tsetse, which was armed with 6pdr (57mm) anti-tank gun and was used for anti-shipping strikes off the Norwegian coast.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR/BAR layouts
Post by: Alex on April 02, 2013, 07:56:22 PM
Hi,

Some more work done today. Added some further detail to the corner. Need to find some bushes. I have plenty of lichen but it just doesn't look right.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0751_zps93f3ff1e.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0752_zpsfd191586.jpg)

The BAR layout has all the board fitted and the fibreboard has all been cut to size. Just got the lift out section to fit.

Been laying some track to figure out what goes where. On the narrow side will be the fiddle/storage yard. The outer line will be a through line for the preservation special, a 2-6-6-2 steamie hauling four B&O coaches.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0758_zps73851f0c.jpg)

The next line will have access to the four storage lines. Each will be around 4-5ft in length so i can tun some decent sized trains.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0759_zps8de071cf.jpg)

Still got 2 more 2-8-0 Consolidations plus several other engines. The main board will have some storage sidings as well.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0762_zps841741f5.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0755_zps99c86c02.jpg)

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
I know half of bu**er all about US stock, but that's an impressive array, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 02, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
Thanks Newport,

Apart from the freight cars at the board edge all the rest are modified or converted from RTR models. Three of the four caboose are also conversions.

It's nice to see them on the track as they have been in storage since October last year.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on April 02, 2013, 09:04:47 PM
Looking good Alex, have to agree on the Lichen, maybe OK for a wooded area but not very convincing as bushes, nice to see the BAR gear again, I noticed you made the top layout narrower than the bottom one, wish I had done the same as I made them both 15 inches wide and need a heck of a lot of lighting for the bottom one.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 02, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
Hi Alex  :wave:     

Your Bar  look  better than   before & your only  at the planning   stage  ;)   what shade of bushes are you looking for as Woodland scenics do a range   :claphappy:

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/GCBushes (http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/GCBushes)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 02, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
Hi Dave,

The upper layout is 9 1/2 inches wide, for some strange reason. The lower main layout is 2ft down one side, 18 inches at each end and 10 inches down the other side. Where my shed light is situated means I only need extra light for the narrow side, which I installed today.

It's amazing how mush stuff you collect when you start to pack everything away and then unpack it again.

Hi Nick,

I've ordered up some Woodland Scenic bushy type stuff and inclines from Hattons. Having looked at the areas I'm trying to recreate most bushes are quite dark in colour. Gorse bush is quite common up our way, so that should look good with the yellow flowers.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 02, 2013, 11:00:20 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:   

Look  forward to the  bushes & next  developments   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 03, 2013, 12:54:45 PM
As it was a nice sunny morning I got the bike out and went for a cycle. Here is a virtual tour of what I am trying to achieve.

Here is thew Isabella Pit.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0778_zps05d714a2.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0782_zpsf0cd9469.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0786_zpsacbce06a.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0796_zps170e111d.jpg)

I think the building has changed since it ceased production in 1926. According to 2 OS maps I have seen the track went through the building and out the other end to the storage sidings. One map shows 3 tracks and the other shows 4.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/isabella_zpsfd5ebb1a.jpg)

This is a photo I took of one of the OS maps.

Moving along and where the Isabella joined the main line there was a level crossing known as the Cameron Crossing. All that remains is one of the gate posts.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0797_zpsa4a910f6.jpg)

A view of the Isabella from the crossing, looking North.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0799_zps23b54a55.jpg)

I have a photo looking South from the crossing so took this as a comparison.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0800_zps7562534b.jpg)

In the photo in my WPR book there is a row of farmers cottages on the right just as the road crests the hill. They are no longer there.

The track followed field bounderies where possible.
Looking West.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0805_zpsa6d40e37.jpg)

Looking East.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0804_zps659f371e.jpg)

As the track heads East is crosses another level crossing at Starky's Woods. Here it passed the Wemyss brickworks.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0806_zpsaa219b53.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/virtual%20wpr/DSCF0807_zps2e7bff35.jpg)

The brickworks is long gone and in its place is a plastics factory. I have a photo of the crossing and it shows a small signal box, which I hope to scratchbuild.

Need to try and get a closer look at the Isabella. Will try and visit the farmer at the weekend and ask permission to get up close to it.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on April 03, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Nicely investigated, Alex.
Let's hope the farmer is OK with your visit :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 03, 2013, 01:19:44 PM
Thanks Newport.

There were at least half a dozen mines near where I live and most of the area was built on top of them.

They weren't the huge mines we think of today. The Isabella went down 444ft and employed between 250 and 300 men. It operated from 1889-1926.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 03, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:   

Good to see where your modelling & how it's changed   ;)   like  Mick  i  hope the farmer gives you access &  allows you to take some more pictures  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on April 03, 2013, 09:31:59 PM
I agree with Mike great investigating Alex, looks like a cold and barren sort of place that will make a very nice layout.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Phil Wray on April 03, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
 :greatpicturessign: of the beautiful auld Kingdom!

Keep up the great modelling.

(from an old Fifer)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 03, 2013, 10:11:24 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for all your kind comments, much appreciated.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 07, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Hi,

Made a start to the wagon works. Started doing the engine shed first. Although the shed is the same length as the works only the front part was used for the engine. The rest of the shed was accessed from the inside and used for the repair of wagons. Doors were fitted to the inside of the shed so that engines could be stored in the rest of the building if needed.

The shed measures 12" long. As its such a large layout it actually fits in quite well. Anything smaller would have looked out of place. Still to add the doors and the top part of the roof. Will make a start on the wagon works later this week.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0827_zpsb93d3025.jpg)

Also finished off 5 more plank wagons using Robbies Rolling Stock decals. Did some with replaced planks as they will be for the wagon works sidings.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0828_zps86e2bf19.jpg)

Also found out some info on the Isabella colliery. At some point it was renamed the Cameron Colliery. Although it ceased production in 1925 the NCB re-opened it in the early 1950's. So I now think the existing building is the 1959's version as it looks nothing like the buildings on the old OS maps of the Isabella colliery.

My 'Isabella Colliery' will be a compromise and look like this mock up.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0846_zps0b54a949.jpg)

The building on the left will be the mine shaft and winding gear. The main building will load the coal into the wagons. The right hand building will be for storage. Still got to design the actual buildings yet.

On the Kennoway siding I have removed one of the sidings as it was a bit cramped in the corner. I now have some space for my coal merchant/general haulage company.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/DSCF0842_zpscfbc22b2.jpg)

Did a quick survey of the existing rolling stock and have the following.

2 Grafar 0-6-0 GP Tanks
1 J94 0-6-0
29 16t steel mineral wagons
35 7 plank wagons

I also have a 4F Fowler and  Black 5 that may see the occasional foray onto the layout.

Also won a NCB J94 from Ebay and several points.

Progress continues...................

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 07, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
Hi Alex,  :wave:

The  wagon  works building looks  good as you say anything smaller would look out of place, if anything  it could have been a little longer  ;)

'Isabella colliery''  is  going to  be busy with those buildings as well.

Glad you've managed to  sort another J94  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: mk1gtstu on April 07, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
Very nice layout  :thumbsup: keep the pics coming!

cheers, Stu. :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: dodger112958 on April 09, 2013, 06:55:01 PM
 :greatpicturessign: You have done so much in such a short time, really impressive. I really enjoyed the photographic tour of the site and surrounding area, really gives you a feel for what you are doing.
 :thankyousign:
Ian
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 09, 2013, 06:58:02 PM
Hi Ian,

Thanks. Hopefully the layout will retain some of the feel for the original areas.

Alex
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 14, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
Another short update. Some more scenic work has been done at the left hand end of the layout.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8018_zps4864507e.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8018_zps4864507e.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8020_zps54a2e9e2.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8020_zps54a2e9e2.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8019_zps96e9029d.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8019_zps96e9029d.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8021_zpsaf2b3f9c.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8021_zpsaf2b3f9c.jpg.html)

Sorry for the dark photos but my new camera has developed a fault and I'm using my old digital.

Also done the incline at the back of the wagon works.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8023_zps7f2e4f7b.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8023_zps7f2e4f7b.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8022_zpsa414e7d9.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8022_zpsa414e7d9.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8024_zpse995fe8a.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8024_zpse995fe8a.jpg.html)

It's out slightly at one end but I'm going to use flexu track on this part so it should be ok.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 17, 2013, 08:07:33 PM
Work continues on the colliery sidings. Once the interlopers had been removed the rightfull owners took their places.

My Woodland scenics bushes arrived. I sprinkled them with yellow sawdust to make them look like gorse bushes. Looks better than it does on camera.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8068_zps6c4ab565.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8068_zps6c4ab565.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8087_zpsf1821b1d.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8087_zpsf1821b1d.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8095_zpsb87d9230.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8095_zpsb87d9230.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8098_zps89c09725.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8098_zps89c09725.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/100_8073_zps57704516.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/100_8073_zps57704516.jpg.html)

The fences are supposed to be post and wire, but until I make them then the Kestrel ones will suffice.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on April 17, 2013, 09:29:51 PM
Looking great Alex, crikey you don't waste any time and put modellers like me to shame  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 17, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
Hi Dave,

Thanks. I try and get out to the shed for at least half an hour most nights. Got to keep the momentum going.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on April 17, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Smashing looking trio amongst the gorse there Alex  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 18, 2013, 06:36:28 AM
Thanks John,

Eventually I'll get around to making a start on the BAR layout. Until then they share the trackage with the WPR.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 18, 2013, 08:07:01 AM
Hi  Alex  :wave:   

Coming on  really  well   wish  i   could get an  hour each   night into   gettting things sorted  the gorse looks very effective,  try looking here for more ideas on  greenery  especially the  pages in this link   http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/wargaming-materials-tools/grass-flock-scatter-clump.html (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/wargaming-materials-tools/grass-flock-scatter-clump.html)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 18, 2013, 06:24:44 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for the link, very interesting. I need to look into the Wargames side for other scenic items of interest. I've used these as well;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warlord-Games-MEADOW-FLOWERS-TUFT-6mm-Army-painter-basing-/400263410617?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item5d318ef3b9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warlord-Games-MEADOW-FLOWERS-TUFT-6mm-Army-painter-basing-/400263410617?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item5d318ef3b9)

Think someone on the forum mentioned them.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on April 21, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
You work as fast as you drive Alex  ;) putting me to shame  :-[
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 21, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
Thanks Lawrence,

Don't drive that fast, get a ticket otherwise.  ;)

The shed is open to visitors by the way, just in case you need some inspiration.  :D

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on April 21, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
You work as fast as you drive Alex  ;) putting me to shame  :-[

Hardly surprising. When it's cold you wimp out and when it's warm you're gardening :-X :P
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 28, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
Some more work has been done on the layout.

The coal yard and inclines.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000013_zps13c9b1b0.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000013_zps13c9b1b0.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000015_zps9ee3bfb7.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000015_zps9ee3bfb7.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000031_zpsa7a1c5ea.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000031_zpsa7a1c5ea.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000039_zps120fe539.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000039_zps120fe539.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000018_zpsf38aea54.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000018_zpsf38aea54.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000019_zps3de59889.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000019_zps3de59889.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000020_zpsa9b890cc.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000020_zpsa9b890cc.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000034_zps719f2cd8.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000034_zps719f2cd8.jpg.html)

With the main ground work done I can go back and add the extra details in later. The track under the bridge is a disused railway line that has been uplifted. This needs some work on it to make it look better.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on April 28, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
Nice work Alex

Thanks for the pics.

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on April 28, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
You really are making great progress Alex and the pictures are excellent, thank you  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on April 28, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
This layout get's better & better Alex  ;)     like the idea of  the uplifted track   under the bridge   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 28, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
Thanks guys, much appreciated.

I've tidied up the bottom boards, see the last photo. I put down some track, after the photos were taken, tonight just to see how it looks.

That part of the layout will have my sawmill in it for my BAR woodchip gondolas.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on April 28, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
The coal yard looks great, Alex :thumbsup:
Those lower level tracks look perilously close to the woodwork, though :worried:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on April 28, 2013, 09:07:38 PM
Hi Newport,

There's nothing fixed in place yet for the lower level so plenty of room for adjustment.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 01, 2013, 07:36:07 PM
Hi Another short update.

I've added a small farm just behind the incline.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P10000202_zps9013d08f.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P10000202_zps9013d08f.jpg.html)

Also started to level off the wagons works area. Never done this before so hopefully it will work out ok.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P10000232_zpsf9ed048b.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P10000232_zpsf9ed048b.jpg.html)

Spotted these two no-gooders heading through the bushes towards the Kennoway Siding.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P10000242_zpsd230362d.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P10000242_zpsd230362d.jpg.html)

They'd been out taking some snaps.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P10000392_zpsaaa405ce.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P10000392_zpsaaa405ce.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P10000422_zpsa14c8101.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P10000422_zpsa14c8101.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000044_zps99673fa8.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000044_zps99673fa8.jpg.html)

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on May 01, 2013, 07:38:37 PM
Looking very nice Alex.

Better keep an eye on those 'train spotters'. Reckon they could turn out to be poachers!

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on May 01, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
What a great looking addition Alex, looking back on the "before" photograph I would not have dreamed of adding anything in there, I just don't have the imagination  :'(

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Oldman on May 01, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
Looking very nice Alex.

Better keep an eye on those 'train spotters'. Reckon they could turn out to be poachers!

Dave G

Wanna buy some used copper guv? :dighole:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on May 01, 2013, 08:29:58 PM
The layout is progressing superbly, Alex. I bet you didn't think it would be up to 10 pages already ;)
You certainly haven't lost your eye for detail :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on May 01, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Hi  Alex,     

More superb progress   :thumbsup: good idea to have the farm to the rear of the layout the fields behind could be an escape route for the poachers   ;) :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 01, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
Thanks guys, much appreciated. Just using up the buildings left over from the old layout.

Guess I'll have to arm my farmer with a 12 bore, loaded with salt cartridges of course  ;).

The wagon works is next on the list, then that'll link up the whole back wall. Might make a start to fixing the BAR layout boards in place at the weekend.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 12, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Hi,

Some more progress. I'm on version 3 for my wagon works. Because of the size plastic card was not very good, so I've now used 5mm balsa wood to build the shell. I have covered it in brick paper I printed on my laserjet. Looks no too bad.

Here it is placed on the layout to see how it looks. Still lots to do.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000203_zpsac914c2d.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000203_zpsac914c2d.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000205_zps7752cacc.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000205_zps7752cacc.jpg.html)

Also need to build some small buildings. The ones in the photo are for display purposes only.. Moving along to the right I have added a level crossing.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000206_zps03448bab.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000206_zps03448bab.jpg.html)

The first building to the left will be a water tower and next to that will be a small square signal box. The water tower looks likes this.

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=93379&image_id=SC733305 (http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=93379&image_id=SC733305)

Quite a challenge I think.

I know where to get brick papers but does anyone know where I can get wooden doors or wooden roofs to print off?

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Trev on May 12, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
That's one heck of a unique looking water tower
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 12, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
It certainly is. The WPR had at least 2 of these towers.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on May 12, 2013, 11:08:23 PM
Hi  Alex  :wave:   

Things are really coming together now the brick paper is very effective for the wagon works  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Phil Wray on May 12, 2013, 11:40:52 PM
Not sure if they have wooden doors, but there's some good stuff here:

http://scalescenes.com/scratchbuilders-yard (http://scalescenes.com/scratchbuilders-yard)

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: grumbeast on May 14, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
This is fantastic Alex,

 Love the BAR stuff and the rate of progress is really inspirational.  The wagonworks looks great..

Keep up the good work!

Graham
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on May 15, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
Eck, have a look at http://www.cgtextures.com/index.php (http://www.cgtextures.com/index.php) look in Roofs/Wood  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 16, 2013, 09:04:59 PM
Cheers, Lawrence.

Slow progress on the wagon works. Most of the texture papers are on, just got to add the doors. On the opposite end I may open up the middle set of doors. Still to add the ridge roof on the engine shed. Have to think about that one as it's curved.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000234_zps941a83a9.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000234_zps941a83a9.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000231_zpsf985df76.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000231_zpsf985df76.jpg.html)

Started the smaller buildings that go around the works. The windows are Ratio etches.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000239_zps6bfd3526.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000239_zps6bfd3526.jpg.html)

Another 7 butterley's join the gang. They still need to be decalled and weathered. Need to either buy decals or make my own. Not a priority at the moment. All wagons will eventually have spoked wheels, again low on the list of things to do.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000242_zps3b8321c0.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000242_zps3b8321c0.jpg.html)

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: longbridge on May 16, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Slow maybe Alex but its looking great and very realistic  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 16, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
Thanks Dave,

Not too happy with the works, the balsa roof has warped a bit, but it'll do for now. Need to crack on or I'll get bogged down and fed up with the lack of progress.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on May 16, 2013, 10:26:47 PM
Hi Alex  :wave:,   

Like the rake of wagons  look forward to seeing them decalled the roof on the  wagonworks can  be replaced with some plasticard  tile  embossed sheet perhaps at a later date  ?
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 21, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Hi Nick,

It's goods enough for the moment. Later I'll take my time and build another works.

Some progress has been made. Just down from the works there is a level crossing. which leads to the bus depot. Across the road is a wooded area with some local TA Landrovers out on an exercise.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000264_zps80ee2665.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000264_zps80ee2665.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000263_zpsde2b73dc.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000263_zpsde2b73dc.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000259_zpsdf79096a.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000259_zpsdf79096a.jpg.html)

A view of my 0-6-0 hauling some Wemyss wagons on the incline.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000272_zpsedc776fe.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000272_zpsedc776fe.jpg.html)

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on May 21, 2013, 09:49:18 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:

Nice touch with the TA   out on excercise  :) have you thought  about a repaint  or two  on the buses for variety or a recovery tow truck   at the bus depot
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 21, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks. On my previous layout I had thought about getting a Matador truck and converting it into a recovery vehicle.

Oxford diecast do an Alexander Bluebird bus, which I remember from my young days, so I may replace my buses with some of those.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on May 22, 2013, 09:39:47 AM
Hi  Alex  :wave:   

If your  thinking of  replacing some of the  buses  let me know as i  may   be  interested in  some of them   ;) Gramodels make  the Natador in  several  versions  see here  numbers 80   -  90   

http://www.gramodels.co.uk/GRA_Oct2011_Brochure.pdf (http://www.gramodels.co.uk/GRA_Oct2011_Brochure.pdf)   

Have to see what i  need in wagons a bit later & will  order  at least one of the Matadors  to  see what they're like if they're anything like the green  goddess the windows  can be glazed   ;) & being resin the detail  is better.

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 22, 2013, 05:39:49 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for the link. I'll order up 2 of the Matador flats, that way I have a spare if I make a booboo.  :D

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for the link. I'll order up 2 of the Matador flats, that way I have a spare if I make a booboo.  :D

Alex :wave:

Is a booboo a 1/76 scale model of a Bo-Bo....................................the taxi's outside :-[
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on May 29, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Not much done on the layout, but planning my next couple of WPR wagons.

First off will be a scratchbuilt NBR brake van as used by the WPR.

http://www.nbr4mm.co.uk/brakevans/9105.htm (http://www.nbr4mm.co.uk/brakevans/9105.htm)

I have a set of plans from LNER Wagons - Vol 3 so it shouldn't be too difficult.  :hmmm:

The other one will be a G&SWR 111/2 ton brake van. I have a photo of one in my WPR book. It looks like a 9ft wheelbase with horizontal planking and outside framing. There are verandas at either end. Can't find any plans or photos on the 'net.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on June 13, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
Almost grinding to a halt with this. I've taken up cycling again so very little getting done.

Almost finished the buildings that sit adjacent to the works.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000398_zps27ac9646.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000398_zps27ac9646.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000396_zps41d10d67.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000396_zps41d10d67.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000393_zps8eef05ff.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000393_zps8eef05ff.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000391_zps5f3c1fbf.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000391_zps5f3c1fbf.jpg.html)

I used brick embossed plastic card with an inner skin of 20 thou plastic card for some strength. The brick emboss is about 15 thou. The windows are Ratio brass etch. All windows and doors will be red paint, as I found a colour photo of this area on the internet.

Each building will be lit with LEDs. I got these from Ebay a while ago.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1000400_zpsc1c01b06.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1000400_zpsc1c01b06.jpg.html)

You get 60 LEDs per strip and they can be cut into strips of 3, each with its own surface mount resistor. They are to be powered by 12v and when I took the photo they were attached to a 9v battery. I may add another resistor as they will be powered from the 16v side of my power supply.

The buildings are currently sitting on my bench ready to have the interiors painted black.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on June 14, 2013, 10:22:32 AM
Hi  Alex  :wave:     

The buildings look   superb   with the  embossed sheet you used it will  allow you to  add  washes of thinned paint /ink   giving  even  more depth & realism  to them.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on November 21, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Hi,

Like Lawrence, I've been out in the shed. Did some scenic work. The wagon works track has now been leveled and painted. I have an order for 8 Wemyss wagons from Santa, all the stock Hattons had. Also got a dozen Peco 7 plank wagons and Wemyss decals. Gonna do more of the grey wagons.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020593_zpsf110dec1.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020593_zpsf110dec1.jpg.html)

I've made a start to the other side at the level crossing.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020594_zps05c06e34.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020594_zps05c06e34.jpg.html)

My temporary storage space below the WPR layout.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020596_zpsfd870409.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020596_zpsfd870409.jpg.html)

And because I was out I ran a train or two.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020601_zps6e70cfec.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020601_zps6e70cfec.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020610_zpsf2a92eff.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020610_zpsf2a92eff.jpg.html)

Yeah, I know, not WPR but as I haven't started my US layout yet they have to run somewhere.

Alex
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on November 21, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
That is a good vantage point for a picture with the orange loco Alex  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on November 21, 2013, 07:55:42 PM
As John says really nice bit work on that embankment Alex  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on November 21, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
Thanks. Need to get out and despider the shed though. I'll fumigate it with a tin of flyspray at the weekend, works wonders.

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on November 21, 2013, 09:59:30 PM
I know what you mean, it was like an insect graveyard out in mine, there was even a dead (well it is now) wasp curled up on one of the platforms!
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on November 21, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
 Hi Alex :wave: :wave: :wave:

Great to see you  on with the layout  Alex    .............   cant  wait to see more   :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 19, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
Hi,

Almost finished the outbuildings for the wagon works.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020903_zpsfcbd0bdd.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020903_zpsfcbd0bdd.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020904_zps4f4a768f.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020904_zps4f4a768f.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020906_zps9211b898.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020906_zps9211b898.jpg.html)

Just got to put in the glazing, which will be clear acetate and install some SMD lights. I don't like the main wagon works building but it will have to do for now :( 

I hope to get them on the layout at the weekend.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 19, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
Thanks for the update, Alex.
Look forward to seeing the buildings in situ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Lawrence on December 20, 2013, 09:39:21 AM
Are you going with the yellow lights Alex or something like a warm white?
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 20, 2013, 05:19:01 PM
Hi Lawrence,

I've got a strip of warm white SMD that can be cut into shorter strips of three, each with their own resistor. If you scroll down about 8 posts you will see the strip of lights in question.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on December 20, 2013, 05:27:02 PM
I have just posted links for reels of 300 LEDs from a UK supplier.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6058.msg183775#msg183775 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6058.msg183775#msg183775)

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 20, 2013, 07:37:13 PM
Cheers John,

I'll order up some warm leds after Xmas.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Cooper on December 20, 2013, 10:22:16 PM
You have a really great thread here. Have always liked the WPR since I read the Oakwood book. That wagon works looks brilliant, really nice modelling!
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 20, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
Thanks. I've still got a lot of scratchbuilding to do. The WPR used twin torpedo shaped water tanks on top of brick buildings. Luckily I've found a number of photos of these so it should make it a little bit easier.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 22, 2013, 10:27:55 PM
Hi,

I spent this afternoon fitting SMDs to my WPR wagon works. Hopefully I'll plant it on the layout tomorrow.

In the main wagon building there will be three tracks. The middle track will have a couple of wagons opposite the side door. These should show up in the light. Well that's the theory anyway.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020908_zpscfa8a0c9.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020908_zpscfa8a0c9.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020913_zps0c468410.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020913_zps0c468410.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020914_zps5f65f708.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020914_zps5f65f708.jpg.html)

Yard lights are going to be a bit difficult, as the WPR placed lights near the tops of the telegraph poles.

I have an idea but I need to think it through first.

Here's a link to a photo that shows the lights on the telegraph poles, hopefully.

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/93379/digital_images/wemyss+private+railway/??&sort_typ=archnum&sort_ord=asc (http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/93379/digital_images/wemyss+private+railway/??&sort_typ=archnum&sort_ord=asc)

Scroll down to the 2nd thumbnail.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on December 22, 2013, 11:02:10 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave: 

Looking  good  with the lighting   ;) 

Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 23, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
Good stuff Alex :thumbsup:
Robert Jenkins seems a long way from home, though :hmmm:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on December 23, 2013, 10:59:33 AM
Good going with the lighting Alex, those telegraph pole are going to be challenging though  :worried:

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 23, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Good stuff Alex :thumbsup:
Robert Jenkins seems a long way from home, though :hmmm:

The wagon was a freebie with some points I won on Ebay and it was lying on the workbench.  :D

I'd thought about using some hollow tubes and feeding fibre optic up through it for the lights and making the circular shade thingy.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 23, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
Went out and glued down the wagon works this afternoon. Still some gaps, but once the glue has dried I'll go out and fill in them in.

So now you can see the wagons inside the building and at both ends.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020929_zpsc2dea6e0.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020929_zpsc2dea6e0.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020934_zps6e66d754.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020934_zps6e66d754.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020931_zpsdcb5f886.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020931_zpsdcb5f886.jpg.html)

I'll try and get some more done tomorrow.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on December 23, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:

Looking good  :D  if you want to try the   0402    SMD's  for the lights  let  me know   if they are soldered on  to   motor  wind wire  then  the  wires  insulated with a drop   of  CA   where the solder  joins are &  then the wires  twisted together to make a  neat job  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 26, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
It was a bit quiet this afternoon so I made a new WPR brake van. The WPR used a couple of ex-GSWR brake vans. These were outside framed vans and as a start I used a Peco 10FT LNER brake van, KNR-49.

First off I cut out the sides of the donor van.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020962_zps46333e46.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020962_zps46333e46.jpg.html)

The new sides were made from planked embossed plastic card. The outside frame was done using 20 x 20 thou plastic strip. The roof had all its details sanded off and new rain strips added. Some other bits and pieces and this is what I've ended up with.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020970_zpsb015c80e.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020970_zpsb015c80e.jpg.html)

Along side another LNER brake van.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020968_zpsa90248c0.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020968_zpsa90248c0.jpg.html)

I've only seen two photos of these brake vans in WPR service and none of them show any markings. So they will be painted bauxite brown and heavily weathered.

The LNER brake van was also used as is by the WPR, so the other one I have will be painted up in WPR markings. I'm also going to get another one done up in NCB markings.

There's not a lot on conversion/scratchbuilding for the WPR rolling stock. This is the second WPR brake van I've converted. The other one was based on a Midland Railway brake.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 26, 2013, 07:40:29 PM
Smashing bit of kit bashing, Alex. Those sides look really good :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 26, 2013, 07:45:12 PM
Thanks. It looks even better now it has a coat of paint.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: brbluewill on December 26, 2013, 08:15:17 PM
Hi,

Almost finished the outbuildings for the wagon works.

([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020903_zpsfcbd0bdd.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020903_zpsfcbd0bdd.jpg.html[/url])

([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020904_zps4f4a768f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020904_zps4f4a768f.jpg.html[/url])

([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020906_zps9211b898.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020906_zps9211b898.jpg.html[/url])

Just got to put in the glazing, which will be clear acetate and install some SMD lights. I don't like the main wagon works building but it will have to do for now :( 

I hope to get them on the layout at the weekend.

Alex  :wave:

hi alex how did you get the weathered look on the buildings looks great
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 26, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Hi,

The outbuildings were painted with a dark rust red then drybrushed/washed with lighter colours. Along the bottom of the buildings I did a light green drybruch to try and replicate the moss that accumulates on older buildings. You can't really see it in the photos.

The larger wagon works is brick paper. I haven't tried to weather that, just left it the way it is, as it will be replaced when I can get a better one made.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: brbluewill on December 26, 2013, 09:34:38 PM
thx alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 27, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
Was out in the shed again today. Done some more ground work at the wagon works. The grey road was a bit in your face so I used my pastel chalks to tone it down a bit.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020979_zpscbdc4166.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020979_zpscbdc4166.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020973_zps38f62bf3.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020973_zps38f62bf3.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020972_zps428cdfc3.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020972_zps428cdfc3.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020977_zps71170b3e.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020977_zps71170b3e.jpg.html)

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: scotsoft on December 27, 2013, 04:45:19 PM

([url]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020972_zps428cdfc3.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020972_zps428cdfc3.jpg.html[/url])



I think this is a great scene you have created here Alex with the pallets unceremoniously dumped with the oil drums.

cheers John.
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: NeMo on December 27, 2013, 04:52:11 PM
I think this is a great scene you have created here Alex with the pallets unceremoniously dumped with the oil drums.
Agreed; bags of atmosphere!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 27, 2013, 06:18:48 PM
Thanks guys,

More clutter will be added through time. The wheels in the background will be suitably rusted up. I'm also going to add an old broken/delapidated wagon body with planks missing in among the bushes.

Loads more still to do.

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 27, 2013, 09:20:11 PM
My new brake van is finished. Another unique piece of rolling stock.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020990_zpsba2eb6e6.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020990_zpsba2eb6e6.jpg.html)

My next conversion will be one of these. An ex-NBR brake van as used by the WPR.

http://www.nbr4mm.co.uk/brakevans/9107.htm (http://www.nbr4mm.co.uk/brakevans/9107.htm)

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 27, 2013, 09:34:57 PM
Very nice conversion, Alex :thumbsup:
The next one looks interesting - check out the size of those duckets :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on December 27, 2013, 10:14:13 PM
 Hi  Alex,  :wave:

The  brake van   looks the  business  gives me ideas  as to what to  do with a couple  of  brake vans here to go  with my  Cattle   wagon   train.

Superb plan   some abandoned stock    rusted with  planks missing  &   paint chipping   it will   make another great  scene  ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 28, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
Hi,

I took one of my WPR wagons and hacked it about a bit. It lost some planks and was heavily weathered. If you look close enough you can just see some of the letters. It will go in the bushes to the left of the wagon works.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020998_zps72d07e49.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020998_zps72d07e49.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1020997_zps36f851e5.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1020997_zps36f851e5.jpg.html)

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 30, 2013, 04:14:51 PM
Hi,

The new brake van is in its rightful place at the end of the train.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1030011_zps54071001.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1030011_zps54071001.jpg.html)

And the abandoned wagon body has been dumped in the undergrowth.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1030013_zps5b29cc75.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1030013_zps5b29cc75.jpg.html)

Alex  :wave:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 30, 2013, 04:45:56 PM
Smashing, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: upnick on December 30, 2013, 09:27:48 PM
Hi  Alex   :wave:

Looking awesome .......... the abandoned wagon looks like it has been there for years   ;)
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: daveg on December 31, 2013, 09:08:24 AM
Excellent. Nicely done!

Dave G
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Agrippa on December 31, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
Really great work there, overgrown , dilapidated and abandoned!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on December 31, 2013, 10:56:50 AM
A bit like myself..... :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: My WPR layout
Post by: Alex on January 12, 2014, 08:59:30 PM
Another 7 wagons joined the WPR fleet tonight. They are all Peco 5 and 7 plank kits. The decals are from Robbies Rolling Stock. He makes grey and red oxide decals for the 7 plank wagon. I asked if he could down size the red oxide ones to fit a 5 plank and he did. Great service.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1030107_zps612bf760.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1030107_zps612bf760.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1030121_zps670b7e31.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1030121_zps670b7e31.jpg.html)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/alexcrawford2008/WPR/P1030120_zpsa194cf38.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/alexcrawford2008/media/WPR/P1030120_zpsa194cf38.jpg.html)

They'll head up to the layout tomorrow night. I've got several more steel 16t wagons to do next.

Alex  :wave: