Real estate agents have been producing photos of properties for sale that look bigger than they actually are for ages. I know because they did it to my townhouse, and that was back twelve years or so.

I do think that Malc-c has a very valid point, though.

It's the SWR M7 loco today for £65. Nabbed myself one

Quote from: Jim Easterbrook on December 08, 2025, 11:42:15 AM

Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 08, 2025, 08:58:26 AMand they used to say that the camera never lies

They were lying.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by (non AI) fake photos of fairies supposedly taken in 1917.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies

Nooooooo....that was real 

Quote from: Jim Easterbrook on December 08, 2025, 11:42:15 AM

Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 08, 2025, 08:58:26 AMand they used to say that the camera never lies

They were lying.
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by (non AI) fake photos of fairies supposedly taken in 1917.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies

Not really the same. The camera didn't lie, it took genuine photos of fake subjects - unlike AI manipulated or, pre-AI, Photoshopped alterations after a photo's been taken.
 

Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 08, 2025, 08:58:26 AMand they used to say that the camera never lies

They were lying.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by (non AI) fake photos of fairies supposedly taken in 1917.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies

Quote from: Browning 9mm on December 08, 2025, 08:58:26 AMand they used to say that the camera never lies

And that's the main issue.  All these images above have been in good faith, but to the eye they all look plausible. AI can be used to generate deep fakes and for of an older generation who are so used to believing that a photo can't lie often won't accept it.

It was the same when visual effect / CGI software became in reach of the average person and would run on a home PC (albeit a top end one) and people started producing UFO images. There was one that showed two craft fly over a tropical island, and my late father who was stationed at the same island after the war swore blind it was real.

People have used AI to generate topless, or even pornographic images of well known Hollywood stars - Its been almost impossible to undo the damage it done to their reputation as the images have to be examined through meta data to prove they were fake.  But by then the damage is done. 

and they used to say that the camera never lies

I've now raced against* an F1 World Champion



* been lapped by **


** many times

Not being minded to feather Sky's pockets, I've had to avoid all news and other spoilers until 6pm tonight. Even this thread just in case someone leaked the result! Not the most exciting of last races but the results, to me, were a reflection of the top 3 this year. Love him or hate him, Max did all he could and the split strategy of McLaren could have paid off for either of their drivers maybe.
I do prefer the team at CH4 over those at Sky anyway

Pleased that Max lost by less than the number of points that he was penalised by at Barcelona for deliberately crashing into George Russell's car. Felt sorry for Oscar, but his season faded after the summer for many different reasons.