Decoder fitted was my first thought, and would explain the higher price. For £100 it should work well, return if not. They're not hugely rare are they?

Quote from: eddief83 on November 13, 2025, 01:17:14 PMMy wallet is going to take a hammering here, I want Green Arrow as I have many memories with the preserved one, and I also want a BR Black and BR Green for my next layout plan, all with sound too

I've got a Green Arrow on pre order which will run with my railtour rake as a preserved loco.
Cheers Colin

NPN makes a good point:  a DCC fitted loco running on DC will require the knob turned up a bit more to "wake up" the decoder.

I've had a couple of bargains that way - a DCC loco for the price of a £50 DC model.

Pop the body off and take a look?

Magnorail - why is it you plan where it's going to be laid but the kit leaves you approx 8cms short and you have to spend nearly £30 to buy a 60cm extension pack 

As previously stated £100 is top end for a used loco. You don't say if you're using DC but could the loco be DCC fitted as, to get such a loco moving, it takes a lot of throttle 

Thanks for the replies. My big issue is the amount of power it needs to just move - it needs about 45% to very slowly move.

Are you running dc or DCC?

I once won an 08 on ebay, listed as a "slow runner". It was indeed a slow runner, but only because it had been converted to DCC and programmed to run correctly - even on dc.

Not everything runs like a scalded cat.

I have 2 class 22s and they both run very slow when first turned on But do get a bit faster once run ,But I think they do have  low gearing so they  run at more prototypical speed ,after all they were NOT express locos .
Bob

The only N gauge rtr concrete sleeper points I can think of are by Minitrix in their code 60 track range.  Even Kato Unitrack's concrete sleeper track has wooden sleepers for the points.

@HD why not use Electrofrog points? Better reliability especially if you do any shunting with short wheelbase locos on DC where you don't have things like DCC stay-alive available.  They look better too in my opinion They're no more difficult to use than Insulfrog.  I've used the code 55 track and Electrofrogs since the mid 90s.

For clarification, IIRC they do concrete sleeper points in OO, and its been so long since I have bought any, I thought they might have copied that practice in N.