Quote from: Ensign Elliott on August 05, 2026, 11:34:27 AMSo pleased to see these released at long last.

Something doesn't look quite right with them though. It could be angle of the photos but the fuel tanks look a bit small and there's still a sizable gap between the body and bogies. Overall they don't appear to have the 37 "look".





I wonder if the new sound fitted chassis will fit the non sound bodies released a few years ago.

Hmmm... Having seen that picture of model v's prototype the body-bogie gap is a bit jarring on the eye. If memory serves they got round the issue on the Deltic by using slightly undersize wheels.

It does though suggest that although the 37/7 body is new tool, bodies from earlier 6 pin 37s may fit the chassis without needing to be modified - it will be interesting to find out.

However, while I would very likely have committed to a BR green one had it been offered in the initial batch, I have no interest in a 37/7 so unless/until one is available, the body gap issue is not something I will need to agonise over if it is indeed as bad as the picture suggests.

An interesting live album by Genesis, who apparently were not keen on its release at the time. It was however a good seller partly because of its budget price as well as having a good selection of early tracks on it - none of which featured on 1977s "Seconds Out".

My first introduction to Genesis was the track "In the Beginning" which appeared on the Decca/Deram sampler "Wowie Zowie". The track was taken from their first album "Genesis to Revelation" (1969) produced by Jonathan King and was not great - selling just 649 copies. Amazingly, the album has now just been released in a 5-CD box set, 2 CD set, and 2 LP set with a bonus EP by Cherry Red Records - really! Here is that aforementioned track...


For me, Genesis stepped up a gear when Peter Gabriel left and "A Trick of the Tail" was released. I have various albums covering their phases and reinventions but never a huge fan throughout. Thanks for posting Mick @Newportnobby .

Tim

Quote from: eddief83 on August 05, 2026, 04:32:16 PMI am still waiting for an intercity version of the 37/4's its the missing link for West Highland modellers

I'd like this too!

As for the ride height etc, looks exactly like previous production runs to my eye. It looks ok when running on a layout when it's well below eye level so I could live with it. But yes I can see why others were hoping it would be corrected on a future tooling.

I wonder who supplied the sound project? There are a few for the 37 and they vary in character quite a bit.

Quote from: jamespetts on August 05, 2026, 04:30:00 PMIt is good to see this - hopefully some 37/4s will come in time.

I am still waiting for an intercity version of the 37/4's its the missing link for West Highland modellers

It is good to see this - hopefully some 37/4s will come in time.

I have just read (twice) through all of this thread today, and I am still a tad unclear as to when an N-Gauge model qualifies as "Ancient". I would venture that it was any model produced before Dapol turned out its first N-Gauge models and Graham Farish was bought by Bachmann...

I first dabbled in N-Gauge in 1971 - my first locomotives were the Farish 94XX 0-6-0PT, a Minitrix BR green Class 27 BO-BO, and the Peco Jubilee 4-6-0 (5713 "Renown") in lined black... Most definitely a Rule One collection! My N-Gauge collection expanded over the following few years and ran on a 9ft x 2ft 6in layout. However I was never really satisfied with the running qualities of British outline N locos - and was always disappointed with the quality of the models coming out of Poole (both in appearance and running), compared to what was available from the likes of Fleischmann, for example. After five or six years, I went over to 4mm EM scale...

Then, on a long weekend break in Cornwall, when sightseeing in Truro, I spotted Dapol's exquisite 14XX 0-4-2T auto-tank and and also their 45XX 2-6-2T small prairies (both versions) and promptly bought all three models - and I have never looked bacK! So that's why I would regard any pre-Dapol / acquisition of Farish by Bachmann model as being "Ancient". I've nothing against any "ancient" model - I am ancient (80 years old) and my layout (Trewenn) is very firmly analogue!!!

(I still have those two small prairie tanks - they run beautifully (and slowly!), though their haulage capacity is limited to three coaches or about ten goods wagons.)

Anyone else followed a similar path?

it leaves the door open to revolution or rapido to make a correct height 37 maybe...

it's not the end of the world of course, but if it's really a band new tooling you'd expect it to be better than the previous 37s.

i think maybe they have used the old chassis and body dimensions as a starting point?  i suppose they want the old bodies to fit the newer chassis with speaker... who knows...

Doesn't help that it looks like it's got a drainpipe glued to the end of each nose. If they can't make that detail fine they should have omitted it - it looks ludicrous.

Otherwise apart from the height still being screwed up it doesn't look too bad.

I understand that the yellow triangle on the 24.5Ts was to enable easy identification between them and the lower capacity 21Ts.

Does anyone have a date in respect of when the triangle started to be applied?