Interesting also that having rescued Heljan from collapse, Accurascale are maintaining Heljans presence in TT with the deltic and bubble car.

And if I were Revolution, the powered model I'd choose would be a 37. It maintains the eastern region diesel focus, with Hornby's promised 31 and Heljan's deltic.  Who doesn't love a tractor?

Bob

Quote from: njee20 on June 08, 2026, 09:39:45 AM

Quote from: Bealman on June 08, 2026, 09:19:10 AMSorry, Ben, but I don't agree with the 'cake decoration' view. I have been to exhibitions when I'm convinced N gauge models look more realistic. In fact on a trip to England I commented to @Newportnobby of this parish that OO stuff looks like plastic toys compared to N.

But, as with so much in life, the eye of the beholder, I guess. I have certainly encountered people here in Australia who would not give N gauge a chance to even show it's face. I'll name them too - BRMA, The British Railways Modellers of Australia. Shocking set of scale snobs.

Ben didn't say that was his view, merely that there remains a perception among OO gauge modellers that that is the case, TT is therefore 'better' for a subset considering downsizing, not having that stigma.

I do like TT:120, give it 20 years(!) for a decent range to exist then I'd maybe consider it! Interested to see what the powered model in TT from Revolution is!

I think Ben's view is a valuable one as more than any of us he has his "ear to the ground" as a manufacturer, and nothing he has said is a surprise to me.

I think a factor in strong initial sales of a given TT120 product is as much about supply. There is currently a very limited range across all manufacturers, and when anything at all that is new comes up there will, perhaps inevitably, be a strong initial demand from those who have chosen the scale.

However even taking that into account, a more careful look at products available in TT120 will also show A3s/A4s, Duchesses, HSTs, MK 3 and Mk1 coaches, Pullmans, Staniers very heavily discounted, suggesting that following those initial sales, demand is not then all that "deep" in spite of heavy promoting by Hornby and a few vocal "influencers".

 

Roy

I am aware that Ben did not say it was his own view. Maybe I didn't word my post correctly.

Quote from: Bealman on June 08, 2026, 09:19:10 AMSorry, Ben, but I don't agree with the 'cake decoration' view. I have been to exhibitions when I'm convinced N gauge models look more realistic. In fact on a trip to England I commented to @Newportnobby of this parish that OO stuff looks like plastic toys compared to N.

But, as with so much in life, the eye of the beholder, I guess. I have certainly encountered people here in Australia who would not give N gauge a chance to even show it's face. I'll name them too - BRMA, The British Railways Modellers of Australia. Shocking set of scale snobs.

Ben didn't say that was his view, merely that there remains a perception among OO gauge modellers that that is the case, TT is therefore 'better' for a subset considering downsizing, not having that stigma.

I do like TT:120, give it 20 years(!) for a decent range to exist then I'd maybe consider it! Interested to see what the powered model in TT from Revolution is!

Quote from: Bealman on June 08, 2026, 09:19:10 AMSorry, Ben, but I don't agree with the 'cake decoration' view. I have been to exhibitions when I'm convinced N gauge models look more realistic. In fact on a trip to England I commented to @Newportnobby of this parish that OO stuff looks like plastic toys compared to N.

But, as with so much in life, the eye of the beholder, I guess. I have certainly encountered people here in Australia who would not give N gauge a chance to even show it's face. I'll name them too - BRMA, The British Railways Modellers of Australia. Shocking set of scale snobs.

As perhaps a more unbiased view, when my wife attends exhibitions with me she frequently comments on how "plasticy" and toylike larger scales often look, especially O Gauge.

Quote from: Moonglum on June 08, 2026, 09:12:14 AMI like that Martin @port perran , I had a listen to some more Still Corners, similar and very pleasant.

Tim

I've downloaded a couple of tracks (including the one above) but they do seem to be a 'one trick  pony'

Sorry, Ben, but I don't agree with the 'cake decoration' view. I have been to exhibitions when I'm convinced N gauge models look more realistic. In fact on a trip to England I commented to @Newportnobby of this parish that OO stuff looks like plastic toys compared to N.

But, as with so much in life, the eye of the beholder, I guess. I have certainly encountered people here in Australia who would not give N gauge a chance to even show it's face. I'll name them too - BRMA, The British Railways Modellers of Australia. Shocking set of scale snobs.

@scottmitchell74 Never mind the trains, lets see your fire truck(s)!

I like that Martin @port perran , I had a listen to some more Still Corners, similar and very pleasant.

Tim

Quote from: njee20 on June 06, 2026, 12:31:26 PMIt'll be interesting to see how well Revolution's JNAs sell, as arguably the first 'big' wagon with a fairly premium price. The majority of my sales of 3D printed wagons are TT at the moment, way beyond N gauge.

I'm still not sure I see it cannibalising N gauge, nor do I believe it's actually that popular. that narrative seems to come only from retailers who sell TT.

Hi all,

The TT:120 JNAs have sold well enough that we are developing another wagon and a powered model.

But in N we are developing significantly more, and N sales are still significantly higher.

Both, however, are still dwarfed by OO which is where the bulk of the market remains.

My experience is that the TT customers are either new to the hobby (and in my view TT:120 is a very attractive scale; offering the benefits of a small size with more 'heft' than N) or primarily OO modellers looking for a smaller side project but who still believe N to be stigmatized by the 'cake decoration' misperception.  Often this is because they haven't actually looked at modern N models and seen that in many cases they are superior to the comparable TT or even OO offerings!

cheers

Ben A.