Jan, thanks for that. I'll see if I can hunt down the hex code or RGB values for some of the hobby paint lines, that are more accessible here in the states.

Quote from: Steven B on June 02, 2026, 01:40:15 PMWe're still waiting for the Revolution class 120 (four years with no CAD).

Hi all,

Yes, we have explained often that a lack of information has made this a very difficult project.

Last year we were finally able to get to the only remaining Class 120 car - the buffet at the Great Central Railway - and we are now making progress.

Properly researching older models can be difficult when drawings and the real thing are hard to come by.  This is why a OO manufacturer cancelled their announced model a few years ago.

And we haven't taken anyone's money for these.

cheers

Ben A.

@Nbodger thank you very much for your generous donation.

 

Quote from: PLD on June 02, 2026, 01:15:54 PMand what was touted then by previous Dapol staff as part of their "mythical seven", bears no relation to the imminent product...

The WC/BoB wasn't part of the Magnificent Seven models.
Magnificent 7 were: Pendolino, HST, Class 153, B1, Class 26, 28xx and the Class 56

All released by Dapol apart from the Pendolino.

Lets not kid ourselves that Dapol are the only ones with long lead times:
Farish took an age with the Birdcage coaches (8 years), and 6 years for the class 450s.

Peco scheduled the HAA for 2000 but it didn't arrive until 2004.

We're still waiting for the Revolution class 120 (four years with no CAD).

The official recommendation is Loctite 242 or 243:

https://tramfabriek.co.uk/glue.html

These are thread locking compounds rather than retaining compounds so I would argue not technically the perfect choice, however for the torque these motors will see, no doubt more than adequate.  And as mentioned, disassembly will be easier for the thread locking compounds than for the retaining ones.

Quote from: ODRAILS on June 01, 2026, 10:31:18 PMHow many of us expressed an interest in the Dapol West Country/Battle of Britain pacifics in 2011?

I think the accurate answer is "none" because they weren't offered on that basis...

It may be that many placed pre-orders with retailers (on whatever terms the individual retailer set) but that is a different thing...

Those pre-order agreements will presumably have been long-cancelled be either the retailer or customer, and what was touted then by previous Dapol staff as part of their "mythical seven", bears no relation to the imminent product...

Quote from: Roy L S on June 02, 2026, 08:57:25 AM

Quote from: ODRAILS on June 01, 2026, 10:31:18 PMHow many of us expressed an interest in the Dapol West Country/Battle of Britain pacifics in 2011?

I know that the issue of the BoBs/WCs from back then is still irksome to a number of people, but I think it is fair to say that we are in a different place today, and following enough people expressing interest, both the Gresley BG and modified Buffet have moved forward very rapidly.

Roy

Agreed Roy, back then Dapol had a habit of announcing plenty to stake their claim it seems, now stuff is announced when its beyond the "thinking of maybe looking at a picture of the real thing" stage, plus side is if they did the light Pacific's then would we be wanting an upgraded model now to suit newer models

You'll need a dedicated retaining compound, something like Loctite 603. The instructions may offer a recommendation? But I've used 603 successfully on brass and steel.

I'm attempting to do a coreless motor upgrade using the Micromotor kits (T3/BR89, if of any use). The kit includes the motor, an adapter shaft and worm gear, all of which are required to be glued together.

For the life of me, however, I cannot get the adapter shaft to stay glued to the motor shaft. I've tried various types of superglue and even PVA - no dice, just slides straight back off every time. I dare not try gluing the worm gear until I've got a reliable solution for the shafts.

Am I missing something? How do others usually handle fixing these together?

Quote from: ODRAILS on June 01, 2026, 10:31:18 PMHow many of us expressed an interest in the Dapol West Country/Battle of Britain pacifics in 2011?

I know that the issue of the BoBs/WCs from back then is still irksome to a number of people, but I think it is fair to say that we are in a different place today, and following enough people expressing interest, both the Gresley BG and modified Buffet have moved forward very rapidly.

Roy