Quote from: Trainfish on December 13, 2025, 03:20:51 PM

Quote from: Trainfish on December 12, 2025, 01:32:38 PMIt's supposed to go from A to D. It looked good when it was at B but why on earth is it now at C? 

Well, at least it has made it back to B and apparently now at D which is a 10 minute walk from here:



And it will be delivered by 14:25. It's now 15:20 

glad to know it's not just my parcels that royal snail mucks up. RM 24 seems to mean 'sometime within 24 days' to RS.

Maybe it's time for a new poll? To see what N gauge modellers feel what they want to see. It feels like N gauge is in a state of limbo with manufacturers not knowing what to produce.

Rob.

Quote from: Richard Taylor on December 14, 2025, 10:47:05 AMWell, as this thread started in 2020 and Model Rail have shown no sign of producing the locos in N throughout the last five years then the naysayers may have a point.

Personally I felt that both the J70 and 16xx would have been marginal in N, and that offering a shrunk version of their exclusive Y1/Y3 Sentinel would have sold better (can offer it in all Big Four liveries plus BR & private owners, looks "cute", hits the same niche as the NGS Hunslet shunter but for an earlier time period.)

I too have long thought that the Y1/Y3 would be a good choice, and possibly one for the NGS to do as a follow on from the Hunslet. However, I suspect the reality is that we will see no more NGS RTR projects of any description announced until the much delayed RTR Cowans cranes see the light of day, which seems to still be a long way off (the cynic in me thinking "if they ever even do"), off topic I appreciate, but every time I ask about them, no clarity or assurance can be given about timescales, and it will be the first and last time I make a "contribution" up front for an NGS RTR project.

Would Dapol (who have made one in O and the OO one as a commission for Model Rail) consider one? I suspect with a number of new tool models in the pipeline at present that would be unlikely.

Roy

Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2025, 11:09:43 AMI don't remember all crisps being plain. I do remember when they tasted good enough without salt that the salt came in a little add on bag, rather than being necessary to hide the other nasty burned oily tastes they acquired.

Ah, yes. Smiths Crisps with the little blue bag (no such thing as 'Ready Salted')

Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2025, 11:09:43 AMFancy in sandwiches was salad, cheese and ham in one go. Although if you go to the Netherlands you can still enjoy that experience of ham, cheese or both and not much else

Yeah - trips to Holland resulted in mayonnaise on chips
First words I learnt were "Keine mayonnaise"

Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 14, 2025, 11:09:43 AMI didn't half get a funny look last time I talked about tinned grapefruit  though it still exists.

Yeah. I love grapefruit but am not allowed it as it messes with my cardio meds

I don't remember all crisps being plain. I do remember when they tasted good enough without salt that the salt came in a little add on bag, rather than being necessary to hide the other nasty burned oily tastes they acquired.

Fancy in sandwiches was salad cheese and ham in one go. Although if you go to the Netherlands you can still enjoy that experience of ham, cheese or both and not much else

Not sure coke was only put on the fire, you just had to be posh to sniff it back then. Pop also got delivered (like milk).

I didn't half get a funny look last time I talked about tinned grapefruit  though it still exists.

Quote from: cmason on December 14, 2025, 09:36:58 AMThere is a generation that basically deny mistakes they make during their training, and try to blame it on others rather than putting their big boy pants on and taking responsibility - unless objective evidence is provided using the mirror effect. Not sure they learn any quicker or any better than they would with a good old fashioned proper telling off...

They learned that from their employers, companies, schools and their colleges all of whom do the same to them all the time.

They are just copying how everything else in their environment operates.

Well, as this thread started in 2020 and Model Rail have shown no sign of producing the locos in N throughout the last five years then the naysayers may have a point.

Personally I felt that both the J70 and 16xx would have been marginal in N, and that offering a shrunk version of their exclusive Y1/Y3 Sentinel would have sold better (can offer it in all Big Four liveries plus BR & private owners, looks "cute", hits the same niche as the NGS Hunslet shunter but for an earlier time period.)

Pasta had not been invented. "Kebab" was not even a word, never mind a food. Curry was an unknown entity. Indian restaurants were only found in India.
The only vegetables were spuds, peas, carrots, turnip, cauliflower and cabbage. Mange tout and Pak choi were made up words. Chilli was in South America and scotch bonnets were worn by old ladies in Aberdeen.
A take-away was a mathematical problem. A pizza was something to do with a leaning tower. Oil was for lubricating your bike chain not for cooking. Olive oil was kept in the medicine cabinet. Spice went in Christmas cakes
Herbs were used to make medicine I think. All crisps were plain. All soft drinks were called pop. Coke was something that we put on the fire, we never drunk it and we certainly didn't sniff it. Ginger beer burnt your lips off when you stopped drinking.
Rice was a milk pudding, and never, ever part of our dinner. A Big Mac was what we wore when it was raining. A microwave was science fiction
Tea was made in a teapot using tea leaves. The tea-cosy was the forerunner of all energy saving devices. Tea had only one flavour, it was tea flavoured
Figs and dates appeared every Christmas, but rarely eaten. Coconuts only appeared when the fair came to town. Hors d'oeuvre was a spelling mistake. Dinner consisted of what we were given, and not negotiable.
Mayonnaise was called Salad cream. Only Heinz made baked beans. Leftovers went in the dog. Sauce was either brown or red. Eating raw fish was called madness,not sushi. The only ready meals came from the fish and chip shop.
Frozen food was called ice cream. Nothing ever went off in the fridge because we never had one. None of us had ever heard of yoghurt. Brunch was not a meal.
Cheese only ever came in a hard lump. If we had eaten bacon, lettuce and tomato in the same sandwich we would have been certified insane. Eating outside was called a picnic not Al Fresco. Seaweed was not a recognised food.
Eggs were not called "free range" they just were, and the shells were white. Pancakes were only eaten on Pancake Tuesday - it was compulsory. The phrase "boil in the bag" would have been beyond our realms of comprehension.
The term "oven chips" would not have made any sense at all. We bought milk and cream at the same time, in the same bottle, before you gave it a shake. Prunes were purely medicinal. Pineapples only came in chunks in a tin.
We didn't eat Croissants because we couldn't pronounce them, we couldn't spell them, and we didn't know what they were. For Baguettes (see Croissants).
Garlic was used to ward off vampires in films, but never to be eaten. Water came out of the tap; if someone had suggested bottling it and charging for it they would have been locked up.

Found it, thanks. A bit clunky scrolling on a laptop.
It only says using a medium heat iron will reduce the creases, not eliminate them.
Has anyone used them and, if so, could they provide a pic/their own experience please?

Quote from: Bealman on December 13, 2025, 09:23:05 PM*Unless you're one of those oxygen thieves.....

I did'st smile at that. A proper choice phrase to deploy in various circumstances.

Made me think of an element in my current work where we provide a tool to encourage self reflection by trainees through an "Adult Learning Experience".

This is because instructors can no longer explain to them using terminology such as that they are "a waste of oxygen that some poor tree gave up energy for so that you can breathe..". Unfortunately nowadays with such and other similarly choice phrases applied they will go crying home to mummy...

Not that it would make a difference if such could still be used. There is a generation that basically deny mistakes they make during their training, and try to blame it on others rather than putting their big boy pants on and taking responsibility - unless objective evidence is provided using the mirror effect. Not sure they learn any quicker or any better than they would with a good old fashioned proper telling off...

And fwiw I do recall being up late to watch the moon landing on the old Baird B&W . 8 year old's were supposed to be in bed by 8 on a Sunday night in those days, however there was special allowance that evening (I looked it up just now - it was 21:17 BST (20:17 Zulu) that the Eagle landed).