Quote from: Newportnobby on November 05, 2026, 10:59:45 AMDespite a mainly WR bias I've never hankered after a 'King'. I never saw one at Oxford in my spotting days and here's what Google A.I. has to say.......

The 30-strong King class (4-6-0) carried a heavy "Double Red" route classification due to their 22.5-ton axle load (the highest of any British 4-6-0). Because of these strict weight and civil engineering limits, they were generally restricted from routes like the Oxford-to-Worcester (Cotswold) line and standard local turns.

I doubt one ever made it to Oxford under normal circumstances but very happy to be proven wrong.

However, they did venture onto a branch line regularly.
The Paignton to Kingswear branch saw through workings by Kings with expresses from London (Paddington).

So, anyone modelling Kingswear or Churston as country branch stations or a terminus (or a representation of such stations) can justifiably include a King.

As a young lad growing up in Trowbridge, we always thought that the reason we didn't see Kings there was because their front bogie was too heavy and their cylinders were too wide.
That wasn't of course, the reason but we believed it back then.
I did see Kings at Westbury though.

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 05, 2026, 10:59:45 AMDespite a mainly WR bias I've never hankered after a 'King'. I never saw one at Oxford in my spotting days and here's what Google A.I. has to say.......

The 30-strong King class (4-6-0) carried a heavy "Double Red" route classification due to their 22.5-ton axle load (the highest of any British 4-6-0). Because of these strict weight and civil engineering limits, they were generally restricted from routes like the Oxford-to-Worcester (Cotswold) line and standard local turns.

I would very much doubt that "standard local turns" would be part of a King's typical rostering, they were used on the heaviest expresses to Birmingham/Wolverhampton Low Level, the Bristol route and West Country as far as Plymouth. Therein lies one issue as a model in N, but as has been said previously (and I have to reflect), it isn't really so different to the A3s.A4s, Duchesses and Merchant Navies...

My two top "wants" are a King and a 10xx County.

I don't really hold with the thinking that "the Kings are unsellable because a one man band company tried to produce one and went bankrupt". I'm guessing that there are many people who would like a King and who didn't have anything to do with the previous attempts to make one and certainly didn't put money up front.

Personally I'm a bit old fashioned and avoid these small one man band, crowdfunding things. I prefer to just buy what Farish, Dapol etc release. 

Considering we now have relatively obscure things like D600 Warships of which there were only 5, and Baby Deltics of only 10, I would think that the WR's top express passenger loco of a fleet of 30 would be a good seller, especially with the amount of WR layouts there are out there.

The Kings were around for 35 years and ran Paddington - Plymouth, Wolvs, Bristol etc.. so a good chunk of the WR mainlines. The D600 warships were around for 10 years and spent most of that West of Plymouth...   

If Farish released one tomorrow, I'm sure they'd sell as well as the castles and halls.

Despite a mainly WR bias I've never hankered after a 'King'. I never saw one at Oxford in my spotting days and here's what Google A.I. has to say.......

The 30-strong King class (4-6-0) carried a heavy "Double Red" route classification due to their 22.5-ton axle load (the highest of any British 4-6-0). Because of these strict weight and civil engineering limits, they were generally restricted from routes like the Oxford-to-Worcester (Cotswold) line and standard local turns.

Couldn't agree more with you Martin.

The GWR/W.R. is said to be the most modelled, so sales potential must be rather high?

I'd hoped for one of those you mention appearing in yesterday's Farish announcement.

I'll buy another Hall when the Hawksworth tender version arrives. Maybe we have to wait for these before anything else GWR/W.R.

I have to wonder how sales have been with the recently released Hall class?
Purchased two and very happy with them.

Doesn't seem to be offering the drag/drop option on the PM editing panel.

To be honest I don't use that method anyway: if I want to give someone a pdf or other file I put it in my onedrive or dropbox and share a link. Doesn't fill up the forum server with non-public stuff

That's what I do. Even though I'm a mod, I have no idea how the nuts and bolts of this thing works!

Quote from: JanW on November 05, 2026, 09:26:43 AMIt seems I can't attach a pdf to a PM.
Am I missing something or is it not possible?

And if not: could this option be added to the PM window? 

Jan

You can copy and paste into the message if that helps.

It seems I can't attach a pdf to a PM.
Am I missing something or is it not possible?

And if not: could this option be added to the PM window? 

Jan

I, for one would love a King.

I have two GF ones, one in blue livery with single chimney, and one in green with a double chimney.

Both run really well but look rather dated so a new version would go down well as would a County to complete my fleet of sea wall 4-6-0s.

Plus, of course, not a 4-6-0 but a 47xx 2-8-0 would be the icing on the cake.