Just as well we're all (mainly) different
Small industrial locos do zero for me

Don't take what I say the wrong way, I think that the baby deltic is a great idea and I expect it will sell well. But from a buisness point of view I just don't get it. Yes they will sell but will they sell enough to make a profit? How many do they have to make and sell to get the percentage that they need?
Maybe I'm just being grumpy?

Also when I say 'generic' I mean a locomotive found everywhere. Take an 0-4-0 peckett, used all over the place, used by mainline companies and industrial ones, where in use from pregrouping times, upto and beyond nationalisation.

I'm definitely being grumpy, I'm going to go and play with my trains...

Rob.

Quote from: cookiescrumble on January 27, 2026, 03:09:26 PM..


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What do you make of the mirrors? In images I see, it looks like they are squashed. But that could be the photos.

The bogies just pull off. Details do appear in the Dapol Hymek thread. Mentioned here in post 175: https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=278.165

I bought this only about a year ago, and it has developed a fault. It does not go unless you press down on the chassis over the bogie. Either bogie, but not in the middle.

My guess is this is an issue with the contacts between the bogie and the chassis? However, I cannot get the bogies off to check. Can anyone advise either on bogie removal, or what else it could be?

This is DC, but the model is designed for the next18 DCC chips.

Quote from: Graham on February 12, 2026, 06:30:28 AMknowing how much you adore the ads for the golden arches, thought I would share the current one across the road from our local.

I think they missed a trick with this one. They should have launched it on March the 1st 

Quote from: GlenEglise on February 05, 2026, 08:24:22 PMI cannot understand why this model of a very limited Class and limited geographical range has been made. To me it is really crazy when a larger Class like the 21/29 with larger numbers and geographical presence is simply ignored.

Am I missing something?

Quote from: Jollybob on Yesterday at 04:51:27 PMI don't understand why the need for something that not everybody will want. Surely something a little more generic would be sensible? Am I missing something here?

Completely off-topic (which was about upgraded versions of existing models) not models produced for the first time...
I'm sure it wasn't the intent, but both of those comments (and a few others) come across as "I don't want it, so nobody should be able to have one..."

Taken to the extreme "Not making something that not everybody will want" would mean no Diesel Locos would ever be produced because "not everybody will want one" and no GWR steam locos because only a tiny minority want one of those...

Define "generic"?

If you're modelling certain eras or locations then the likes of the Baby Deltic or a 21/29 are key parts or making the scene complete. A 37 or 47 just wouldn't be the same.

I hope the Baby Deltic sells well. I hope a 21 or 29 gets made. I have no use for either class but hope that a 25/3 will follow them!

Quote from: Jollybob on Yesterday at 04:51:27 PM

Quote from: GlenEglise on February 05, 2026, 08:24:22 PM

Quote from: icairns on February 05, 2026, 04:48:15 PMWell, less than a week after my original post, there is another decision to be made. 

EFE has announced that they are going to produce a RTR Baby Deltic. 




Ian

I cannot understand why this model of a very limited Class and limited geographical range has been made. To me it is really crazy when a larger Class like the 21/29 with larger numbers and geographical presence is simply ignored.

Am I missing something?

Deltics yes but Baby Deltics... really?

GE

It seems to be a thing lately of manufactuers making runs of exotic locomotives/trains. The LMS twins springs to mind, the blue pullman, Hornby tried the Brighton Belle, etc... I don't understand why the need for something that not everybody will want. Surely something a little more generic would be sensible? Am I missing something here?

Rob.

Even in N Gauge the market for the more common diesel locomotive classes is all but taken, meaning the alternatives are to enter into a process of continual upgrades and/or retools of existing models or look to produce some remaining and/or more "quirky" models never done before.

It would seem by the number of more "obscure" or short lived classes from the Modernisation plan or before that have been produced in the last few years (Class 17, Metrovick Co-Bo, LMS "Twins", Class 41 "Warship" and now Baby Deltic) that more than one manufacturer see sales potential in something from this category that is completely new.

Logically, if an existing loco of one of the more common classes is upgraded or retooled there will be a percentage of people who are "happy" with their existing model and do not purchase one, so I would think very careful thought has to be given to which ones to target, and whether instead something never done before but "quirky" has more potential.

I would think the answer is that there are a core of maybe six to eight locos from the transition era that would definitely warrant an upgrade or total retool, of which some have already been covered with the remainder being more marginal, hence the look for other prototypes.

Regards

Roy

Quote from: GlenEglise on February 05, 2026, 08:24:22 PM

Quote from: icairns on February 05, 2026, 04:48:15 PMWell, less than a week after my original post, there is another decision to be made. 

EFE has announced that they are going to produce a RTR Baby Deltic. 




Ian

I cannot understand why this model of a very limited Class and limited geographical range has been made. To me it is really crazy when a larger Class like the 21/29 with larger numbers and geographical presence is simply ignored.

Am I missing something?

Deltics yes but Baby Deltics... really?

GE

It seems to be a thing lately of manufactuers making runs of exotic locomotives/trains. The LMS twins springs to mind, the blue pullman, Hornby tried the Brighton Belle, etc... I don't understand why the need for something that not everybody will want. Surely something a little more generic would be sensible? Am I missing something here?

Rob.