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Title: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 03:15:47 PM
hi its about time I posted about my layout ! Having been on the forum 6 years. My journey started when I was 4 with a train set as I called it - my late Grandfather - Bless Him created a small 4 x 2 after a serious surgical procedure to remove all or part of my colon hence stiff backs.  Roll on to past my 30s and a flat move, I started building N Gauge and those who remember the buildings shown here and the Magnum Layout :


http://www.ness-st.co.uk/pdf/Graham%20Farish%20Magnum%20Catalogue%201999.pdf (http://www.ness-st.co.uk/pdf/Graham%20Farish%20Magnum%20Catalogue%201999.pdf)

yes I had one. Another flatmove 6 years ago meant redecorating, a new bathroom, paint, wiring. The wretched builders dropped my old layout - ugh !

So im reconstructing. Please be patient for photos. So 2 years ago ....

Im reconstructing Ditton West which in reality as a station opened in 1871 on the London-Liverpool line. It replaced an earlier station named Ditton Mill which was inconveniently located off the then new main line some 230 yards to the east and closed to passengers on 27 May 1994 and the station buildings were demolished in 2005. My layout is only part of set 1970s - 1993 so sees Blue / Grey, and anything the odd two tone Green, Maroon Mk1s, Speedlinks.

Its based on an 11 ft by 2 and a half foot. With potential for another 6ft board if and when the landlord rewires so I can live in peace. and resurrect the extra board situated alongside the wall.


I will put a plan later, but thanks to @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) for wiring signals, points, electrics, Bob Tidbury for encouragement. @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193) for fixing my number2 Class 08 Shunter , Kernow / Gaugemaster for quick sales and posting my orders., Ben at Metcalfes DIY for sorting a board. Basically its a shunting layout with scope for a representation of shunting, HAAs to Fiddlers Ferry, the Warrington Trip working, a small depot servicing train, engineers, the Pilkington Glass trip tanks, ICI and BOC trips at Widnes Tanhouse Lane, the BOCS from Willesden and Kenton. When I add the extra board Freightliner 70s / 80s

https://www.google.com/search?q=british+rail+freightliner+1970s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiE47qu3b_nAhVaw4UKHZ6uDFkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=british+rail+freightliner+1970s&gs_l=img.3...9051.12265..12831...0.0..0.242.1251.9j3j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.llOCWKAXUi4&ei=pn49XoT4ONqGlwSe3bLIBQ&bih=652&biw=1024 (https://www.google.com/search?q=british+rail+freightliner+1970s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiE47qu3b_nAhVaw4UKHZ6uDFkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=british+rail+freightliner+1970s&gs_l=img.3...9051.12265..12831...0.0..0.242.1251.9j3j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.llOCWKAXUi4&ei=pn49XoT4ONqGlwSe3bLIBQ&bih=652&biw=1024)


https://www.google.com/search?q=BOC+tank+trains+1970s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiH9ve13b_nAhUygHMKHYtRDswQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=BOC+tank+trains+1970s&gs_l=img.3...15705.21355..21550...1.0..0.157.1376.13j3......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i7i30.5KPNSxPGviI&ei=tn49XofDJbKAzgOLo7ngDA&bih=652&biw=1024 (https://www.google.com/search?q=BOC+tank+trains+1970s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiH9ve13b_nAhUygHMKHYtRDswQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=BOC+tank+trains+1970s&gs_l=img.3...15705.21355..21550...1.0..0.157.1376.13j3......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i7i30.5KPNSxPGviI&ei=tn49XofDJbKAzgOLo7ngDA&bih=652&biw=1024)


and a take on Arpley Yard :

https://www.google.com/search?q=warrington+arpley+80s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiF8ZrB3b_nAhVZPhoKHXC-Dk8Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=warrington+arpley+80s&gs_l=img.3...15039.22554..22883...2.0..0.201.1908.19j3j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i67j0i10j0i10i24j0i131j0i8i30j0i24.pzRMb1ahGfg&ei=zn49XoXSD9n8aPD8uvgE&bih=652&biw=1024 (https://www.google.com/search?q=warrington+arpley+80s&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiF8ZrB3b_nAhVZPhoKHXC-Dk8Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=warrington+arpley+80s&gs_l=img.3...15039.22554..22883...2.0..0.201.1908.19j3j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i67j0i10j0i10i24j0i131j0i8i30j0i24.pzRMb1ahGfg&ei=zn49XoXSD9n8aPD8uvgE&bih=652&biw=1024)


an old haunt when I worked for the old BR at Crewe and lived near Warrington. Track is mainly farish , I have some of the original buildings. Fleet consists of several blue grey and maroon mk1s plus a Charter  mk1 maroon set  , mk2s, 08, 20, 25, 31  40  47, dmu, 81 minitrix  86. and 20 plus wagons. Once the living room is delighted wired and I'm free of the old wiring as I live in flats plus work on the railways willl add photos
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: njee20 on February 07, 2020, 03:39:04 PM
Look forward to seeing some pictures Chris!
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 03:41:33 PM
Thanks once the lighting which  was discovered as faulty and I can work how to post some shots on my phone
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2020, 03:55:14 PM
Look forward to seeing the track plan and some pics, Chris.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 04:00:56 PM
Again once I have worked out how to post photos and the track plan is an end to end with 3 sidings at one end, a passing loop and 2 curves leading to the fiddle yard full of tracks representing arpley. I can only draw on paper and do not have the technology sorry to do technical drawings etc. I'm very simple in what I do. Photos are on my phone.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: njee20 on February 07, 2020, 04:38:06 PM
You should be able to click "Add image to post and upload to gallery" and follow the steps to get photos directly from your phone. You have to specify category as "random photos", and a name, then it should post. Mine are always upside down, but I can turn my head!
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 04:52:17 PM
Thanks nick. I have tried that
 Never works. I have a card shed converted to the carriage wagon works and recreated a scrap yard, pw way works scene , a mini arpley yard, and the junction splitting the line to runcorn and the weaver and the widnes warrington line. However space I have is limited so. Please folks be patient. I'm also analogue as just simple. I be never tried dcc
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on February 07, 2020, 05:30:31 PM
Go into Gallery, then My Gallery, then My Gallery again.  That should get you to your gallery (which may be empty by the sound of it).  Scoll down to the bottom and click Bulk Add Pictures.  You should then see a workspace where you can copy and paste or drag and drop files from your file system.  Then 'Return to Gallery' gets you back again.  To display one of you gallery pictures, click the picture then scoll down to the bottom where you will see Image Linking Codes.  Copy and paste the BB code into your reply and the picture will appear when you preview the post.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
Thanks at a later date. PLEASE excuse me all I'm not technical . I just model and look for suitable stock. I did manage to find a book stall/ newsagent which recreates Grandfather' s old station stall before he sold to the old Menzies.
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 07:08:19 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-070220190800.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87238) @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) , @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) . Thanks these are my first ever attempts at forum posting photos. Appreciated darren for wiring up with me plus wiring those signals. More to happen once the wretched lighting. I can email or send photos to mobile numbers but please bear on mind I'm scribbling plans with pen paper and battling with lighting my landlord needs to replace.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 07:09:59 PM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-070220190947.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87239)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on February 07, 2020, 07:16:05 PM
There!  You can do it after all.  :)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 07:25:15 PM
Thanks after cursing my technology. Appreciate it Laurence. Admittedly overcoming hurdles. Signals are now obsolete berko eckon 2 / 3 aspect and ground shunting signals dummies. May have to wait til daylight as darren suggests. Been planning more for another day
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: chrism on February 07, 2020, 07:29:07 PM
and battling with lighting my landlord needs to replace.

The lighting in my spare room was (and is) dire - just one pendant light fitting about 2' from the window in a long, narrowish room some 13-14' long.

I resolved that by making a "lighting bar" comprising a length of timber longer than my layout (at that time just Coniston) and a pair of a-frame legs to hold it up. The 8' long bar is fitted with five table lamp lampholders, wired to be powered from a normal plug socket, each fitted with a 7W LED bulb. Because it's not fixed in place, I can move it around to illuminate whatever I want - it has been used for lighting Coniston down one side of the room, Torver across one end, Woodland down the opposite side from Coniston and is currently set up across the opposite end from Torver to give me good lighting for working on Broughton.

It might be worth you knocking up something similar rather than waiting for the landlord because, even if he does sort the "standard" lighting, it still may not be ideal for you to work on, or photograph, your layout.

Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 07:33:08 PM
Thanks chris. Darren and I used a table lamp to side wiring and a head torch underneath bit like what hill walkers use. I use 3 portable reading lights from a swedish furniture store, that I word minus the base hels by clamps and a magnifying glass. But that's a useful shout to consider
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 07, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
     Great start, looking good   :thumbsup:
           regards Derek.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2020, 08:35:24 PM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-070220190947.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87239)

Chris - you might want to push the rail join leading to the point together. I'm not concerned about a point coming off a curve as I have several and no issues occur, but that's a fair size gap and could cause derailments. The camera sees what we don't tend to!
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 08:41:24 PM
Thanks mick. I was just refitting a new fish plate having noticed this. It's something the camera does not lie but I have had to wire signals and re put in fishplates in 2 other spots form lighting. Tomorrow after shopping will be checking the other bits .
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 08, 2020, 04:33:39 AM
Thanks the plan has been altered with the siding being.moved to face the other direction.  The two lines then have two right points and sweeping left curves but when fully sited once workmen have been and rewired I will sort the other end .
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 08, 2020, 05:14:19 AM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-080220051358.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87246)
My layout
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 08, 2020, 07:13:09 PM
Thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)  for the plan.im holding back for a while due to the landlord taking 6 weeks to rip a poor 30 year old instalment, rewire and provide new lights which will mean everything being placed under wraps then I can rewire with darren if up for it and once my sanity is back. I thank very much @ chrism up at coniston for the suggestion which helped
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 08, 2020, 07:15:12 PM
Thanks @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) up in the Lakes , your idea came in handy
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: chrism on February 08, 2020, 08:08:55 PM
Thanks @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) up in the Lakes , your idea came in handy

You're welcome, mate.
If there's one thing I've learnt since I started working in N-gauge it's that it's a darned sight easier with decent light.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 08, 2020, 08:15:59 PM
True. Chris. Prefer the history and operations of railways to wiring.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 09, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Just a quick update. Afraid I'm having to dismantle the layout for the time being frustratingly after the discovery I've made. The landlords workman trod on the ladders ok but trod on wiring necessitating changing a broken rail and sleepers fishplates. Nevertheless displayed my angst and serious displeasure . Please bear with me folks. @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)  appreciate you going over the phone. Electrics not my forte and today I'm rigging lighting chrism at coniston kindly suggested as going be 6 weeks until new lighting is installed. If wondering I live in a small flat with substandard lighting even outside and it's going to take a while to remedy issues
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2020, 05:02:32 PM
Hi all. Just,a little update. I have had to redo some track work and install a point and remove part of the layout. Bear with please as working on temporary lighting from chrism ' s kind suggestion and after the landlords workman said I do nt need my layout moved, yet tried on it, damaging a point, so I've claimed compensation
 Thanks to darrwestlu6 in helping rewire as second discovery showed up the signal resistor had come loose plus wiring
 So 4 weeks to new wires, new lights
 Was I pleased ? No. Onwards upwards. IM also adding to another 5ft board all the space in my lounge.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2020, 07:50:25 PM
Thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) wiring for the time being has been given more work. Will be eating soon, so more progress info in a bit
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-120220195011.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87448)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2020, 07:54:45 PM
Here is a shot of the works end. Scratc h built carriage wagons shed. Out buildings and scrap yard
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-120220195430.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87449)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 14, 2020, 06:08:28 PM
Hi . Hopefully after rewiring, resoldering a fish plate and relaying a point should be buying next week 3 new points. Best to wait for photos as after a nightmare week at work  taking time out. Plans are to pin track down then fix a blade on a point. If not then my plans are to purchase a new one and sort the lighting out. Waiting for new lighting off the landlord then compensation for damage by his workman. So will be honestly taking the layout down for a day then resurrecting it and sliding board 2 currently in a load of packaging under the bed. Also plan is I'm using an old garment and Morgan controller and hoping the banana plugs behave @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)   thanks. Just gentle persuasion with one with pliers. Darn, waiting for repairs annoys me so am sitting in having prepped a plan for board 2. And the fiddle yard to retain my stock. Then will be a wet weekend so constructing buildings that have had in a box
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 17, 2020, 07:15:11 PM
Apologies first. Poor lighting at home  should be rectified in a few weeks. Just bored with all the rain on a weekend off saw me buy lichen at a florist shop for just over £3 a bag ( separated from.the mud that came with it ) and a few twigs  pva. A few farish 90s buildings that I picked up cheap, pva, craft knife and a small brush did the trick.
 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-170220191500.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87616)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 18, 2020, 01:34:01 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
   Excellent remedy for wet weekend blues.  :thumbsup:
       regards Derek
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 18, 2020, 01:45:53 PM
For sure. Gave me something to enjoy rather than being out with the wind, rain, start of half term. Was surprised the florist sold me the lichen when I explained I was a model maker. Then I did not fancy my dodgy wiring skills. Used a tin of blue humbrol to paint the shed doors after spotting it in the DIY store on sale. £5 for 4 pots various colours. So then waiting for pva to dry got down to painting a building, making the platforms more realistic, updating the knightwing station lamps tops a shade of white just like a station should have.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on February 19, 2020, 11:37:49 AM
Sounds good Chris, look forward to seeing Ditton in a few weeks time. Did you buy the soldering iron?
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 19, 2020, 12:37:06 PM
Sorry not actually progressing for a while due to other important matters.  Please bear with me everybody @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)  have to deal with replacement of points, resurrecting a signal, fishplates  a loose wire. I'm taking time off this and not buying tools yet
 I'm dealing with family problems

 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 19, 2020, 05:04:24 PM
@DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) . Hi lighting refit is 3 weeks away so after inspecting  damage caused by landlord ' s agent will have to cope with chrism 's idea. I've had to replace 3 points after the ( censored ) workman moved a board without asking and dropped a foot and took
 Compensation time. So temporary lighting, new points on order, fishplates, clean up mess, rewire the loose one. AND NO solder so have had no time to do this. Graveyard shifts at night has meant once jobs are done I have an hour to my relief so ,   knightwing A20 modern station lamps have been painted, I had taken a box in with stiff cardboard tubes, cylindrical parts under the seat of a broken unwanted desk chair in the skip so ripped the seat, no one wanted. Undid screws kept the black cylinder fixed to the metal tube that sits under the seat. Job done painted black. Pva . Then set. Night two, jobs done, boredom at 445am, drew up list of parts I'm seeking  paint an old farish goods shed as was bit scrappy and faded plus reinforced with plastic ard , it looked shabby. More later
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 22, 2020, 01:30:23 PM
Hopefully weather will pick up in march but for now lighting issue still a headache. No soldering iron yet  DIY store have a little one I have seen so placed my order and then once I have fixed the damaged track, received new fishplates and rewired one piece . Not a task I fancy. So ally pally show looming, I'm not posting photos as will be rewiring a point @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) take note. Just had landlord on phone, he had staffing problems, so 3 to 6 weeks away before lights are fixed. Anyway gives me chance to add new points  slot the board where I want to , buy solder iron  do 3 pieces with it of solder  then add the new board basically a small fiddle yard. No photos yet so dont ask please. It's a scrawled design at my notepad
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on February 22, 2020, 05:30:32 PM
Hi Chris - whilst you are waiting for the new bits, if you have a free daytime with good light,  you could pin the track down with track pins to stop it moving about, start with the cross-over and work from there, making sure all the track is correctly in the fish plates and pushed together nicely. That should solve a few problems with power getting to the track.

Even if the pins are in temporarily (before you glue and ballast) it will stop any track from popping out of the fish plates accidentally. I use the Peco track fixing pins, part number SL-14. My method is to hold the head in a pair of pliers and push the pin gently into the baseboard through the pre-drilled holes in the points and track, usually I can get the pin all the way in this way, and if I muck it up and it buckles (happens every so often) I just pull it out and do it again. I find this usually works best, I never got on with the plunger tools....
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 22, 2020, 05:34:25 PM
Thanks I'm aware of that @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) and on top of the game. Pinning is being taken care of, rewiring one piece. But I have more important matters at present on my plate and will post in a bit progress as my preferred supplier has just notified me 2 points I need are out of stock and will follow separately. The above mentioned peco SL14 are awaited. Thanks
I'm also sorting a rather tough family issue which is taking my time so .... for time being .... I seriously cannot work on the crossover until I receive. My main project now is to focus on ideas I'm doodling and sorting what buildings I have in my box, sorting a box load of tools and family stress
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 22, 2020, 06:18:40 PM
Onto the good bits. I'm hoping once up and running looking at bits where I grew up . Ditton involved the triangle junction heading towards Weaver Junction was going to be the challenge. The lack of space means the OHLE section heading towards there maybe a mini idea in my mind. Sourcing catenary wires not an issue so heading towards widnes and east on that line and the branches towards warrington and fiddles ferry maybe possible. As have speedlink  freightliner 70s / 80s style   , BOC widnes, tanner lane traffic plus HAA coal wagons for warrington after the trip to the carriage wagons works as seen. Watch this space
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 23, 2020, 11:22:17 AM
Thanks a new plan will be posted when I'm ready once track I've ordered has arrived plus trackpinning and resoldering and errant wire has taken place and once a family matter at home has been resiolved
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 25, 2020, 06:38:11 PM
On a positive note. Before I head to a meeting tonight, finally 3 weeks a new light will be fitted . It's kind of dark and I have had enough of bad lights so given up for today. Track pins arrived and the awaited crossover so that's a task on my day off . Trackpinning at the ' works end ' then erecting trestle , putting photos up. Please don't ask tonight for them my meeting is priority and concentration levels so so. Then a couple of insulating joiners, new fishplates will be added. Just two pieces to resolder and no I'm borrowing one for half hour. Baseboard two will be open frame construction and that's the weekend to plan my next ideas. Watch this space
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 25, 2020, 09:32:02 PM
Just an update. A family member and I needed to sort matters at home. Tomorrow is pinning and tacking track down plus  borrowing a soldering iron. I've checked and found a loose wire on a fishplate. Not good. Whilst waiting for glue to dry on board two and adding nails ,  screws . Then maybe see how far I get with building pieces in my box. Happy modelling and the road by the cottages is dry. I've found an old few pieces from an old layout in a takeaway container so pva glue ing down . Then hopefully will take shots in daylight good light of the wiring as have to just secure a couple. So thinking the knees and back will be stiff after being under boards
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 26, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
Morning. Just updating
 Taping up the wiring underneath after soldering a loose piece with a borrowed solder iron. Shop I use will not have the piece I'm after or the solder iron for 2 weeks but some kind soul lent me his.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-260220085323.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87956)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 26, 2020, 08:55:38 AM
Oh and the crossover installed. Thankfully all wired up @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) . Replaced the damaged points and new fishplates in. More later as other things to do.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-260220085530.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87957)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 26, 2020, 04:13:04 PM
Here is the update. Still waiting on the glue to dry on board 2 having added battens in an open frame and another cross piece I've added to strengthen trestle one. That was a recycled item I found in the bins area in the skip and it just needed sanding, varnish and a hinge screwing. So track pinned , new fishplates inserted. What next ? Lighting   before it gets dark , check my Hammant and Morgan Duette controller still works. Yes. I still needed to place a bit of pva on the scenic bit I noticed after the last movement by the wretched workmen had loosened so blob of pva, tiny bit of work with scraping filler bashed by the ( next word censored ) foot, disguise with my left over florists lichen £3.50 a bag.  I found another piece from a broken office chair which used to sit under the seat so screwed in , taken off from there, remove the unwanted metal and what did I have a plastic cylindrical piece ideal for the industrial scene. Cut a piece to be glued on the board  job done. Spray black. Window open. After a cold drink and face mask, disposal gloves off. Check pva . .   Then thanks to Joey67 aka Mark of Shrewford   same idea , paint my station lamps white top, grey base, dab
Superglue and paint base grey brown and add bit of brown paint and brown ballast to represent the wintery platform scene.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 27, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
Hi after a wet cold morning full of tired and cold back in the warm and will update all. Here is a side on view of the cleaned returned trestle. The layout sits in the living room

 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/3894-270220115407.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=87983)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 27, 2020, 11:57:04 AM
Meanwhile on top the wiring complete, fishplates and pieces reinstalled I can reposition when the lighting gets the go ahead
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Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 27, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
At present I have 9ft 8 x 2 ft to play with and a 2ft 7 height sample enough to get my long legs and sit comfortably including squeezing myself under to do wiring. Been measuring board two so altogether once problems at home are sorted I can give myself access to the rear and still run 12 x 2 ft and a bit . The trestle works out at 2ft 7 height and 3 of them allows safe positioning. More to come at a later date
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 27, 2020, 03:38:16 PM
been doing some digging. as a fan of 1967- 85 era, ditton was near allerton shed, so saw locos I loved 08s, 20s, 24s, 25s, 40s, 47s

https://www.derbysulzers.com/springsbranch.html (https://www.derbysulzers.com/springsbranch.html)

these would have worked to warrington, arpley, springs branch, wigan

im looking at the 3 shunters I have, all used in the area


http://btckstorage.blob.core.windows.net/site3376/On%20Shed%20Archive/On%20Shed_Vol%204%20No%201%20-%20March%202014.pdf (http://btckstorage.blob.core.windows.net/site3376/On%20Shed%20Archive/On%20Shed_Vol%204%20No%201%20-%20March%202014.pdf)


some super maps / photos, and activity THAT the RAIB / HSE would not approve


http://www.gronkgeek.co.uk/2018/03/wsnw-17-years-on-looking-back-at.html (http://www.gronkgeek.co.uk/2018/03/wsnw-17-years-on-looking-back-at.html)


plenty of inspiration for modellers ' weathering techniques
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: njee20 on February 27, 2020, 09:09:13 PM
2'7" sounds quite low - does that give you enough clearance to get under easily?
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 27, 2020, 09:31:01 PM
Yes thanks enough to sit on my Chair now the wires are held by chock blocks  and secure
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 28, 2020, 11:18:05 AM
Well another cold wet weekend due. Lighting to be finally fixed 2nd week march and til then, work  sort my stiff back out, matters at home. Then ally pally. Oh and laying track on the board so will see what I m going to do. No track plans yet let of planning to sort
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 29, 2020, 05:35:13 PM
So here is the update. After a cold wet morning at work, I have managed to thanks to the help of @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) secured some fencing. Once received and installed I will post photos. I have been laying out track and wondering what to do on board 2. Landlord has agreed to sort the wiring after 3 years failing to meet regulations let alone obligations . So 17 march I will take down the temporary idea suggested by chrism. Phew.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 05, 2020, 10:03:27 AM
It's been a week since i posted and slow progress what with finding a long light strip left outside my door so called up. Was not pleased the electrician had not bothered to call. Anyway @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) has kindly posted fencing. Glued it in this morning on a rare morning of a Thursday at home. I'm re fixing the backscene too
 I am hoping to sort progress post 18th
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/88/3894-050320100317.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=88301)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 05, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
And another shot. Will be slowly painting once glue has dried. Thank you john. Maybe heading up the florists see if I can buy another £3.50 lichen bag and in the meantime board 2 will only be in my head as so to speak at planning stage
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/88/3894-050320100703.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=88302)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 17, 2020, 11:28:52 AM
So its 17th. Finally new lights in
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/3894-170320112759.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89092). And scenics work added. Simply to hide a join, obtained some lichen from the florists
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 19, 2020, 07:25:17 PM
So fed up of the news and after work conference calls. I cleared up some stuff in the loft knowing I had a board and bits I wanted out. I wanted in the small space to use a disused canal .... so piece of plywood to form the riverbed. Thin strips cut to form spacing strips, a larger piece glued to a smaller piece, riverbed formed. Left overnight to let glue dry. Add styrene strip, small batch of a carrier bag of diy plaster . This was left over by the landlords workman they never wanted any bits back.... waste not  disposable gloves came in handy ... add to a household emulsion pot I had,  still add plaster before safely binning unwanted stuff. Left to dry. Paint coloured bed black towpath. Dry.  Pour aqua magic with windows open for air, allowing fluid to dry naturally. Allow layer to seal porous surfaces. Day 5 / 6 allow it to dry. I'm yet to place the industrial building that's drying .... but add vegetation   , pva a bit of brown paint, green, costa stirred strips added make a good towpath. Then I blended paint to the scenery made from lint and plaster

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/3894-190320192446.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89203)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 20, 2020, 07:53:58 AM
Nearly the weekend .... I folded some old lint , glued it down and formed the shape over strips of newspaper which had been added to the chicken wire strip. After gluing, opened the windows, a spray of green plastikote and yes disposable gloves, a face mask came in handy. Fresh breeze too as it gives a fine mist and a few hours later no paint smell. Last night several pieces of 20mm plasticard formed a lock and a strip of wire turned into a handrail. So what do I do with a tiny slip of 15mm plasticard ? That I made into a walkway. Will be fiddling around making shops later, terraced houses.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 21, 2020, 01:07:01 PM
Hi. Just thinking what to do next. Looks like finding the track pieces I'm after will be a waiting game so if the chosen outlets have been waiting delivery. I'm onto painting board 2 , and building a few card kits. Will take photos once they have arrived. Keep safe
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 26, 2020, 03:54:49 PM
So board two. Finding hard to gain parts and the fiddle yard will have to wait.... so after a conference call and having to standby for an emergency turn which never happened. Yes I'm on standby as a qualified guard. Now off duty, cold squash  , windows open. What do I do?
 Prepped board 2 surface  off cuts of polystyrene I found in my box plus unused Woodlands scenics formers, basin of canal which is disused is lower. Pva and leave to dry. Day 2 conference call, sorting work time sheet, reading union papers , yep jar of coffee turned to cuppa , then started bilteezi card kits .
 


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/3894-260320155440.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89532)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 26, 2020, 04:00:44 PM
Low relief houses glued to strip of wood, and added an extra timber frame to support backscene and after 3 false moves owing to new lighting which makes the difference. I'm currently adding warehouse kits, low relief. More green paint round scenics
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/3894-260320160034.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89534)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 26, 2020, 04:07:48 PM
Onto a third day and a trip out as emergency to relieve a colleague who had received an emergency call from home  back home feeling good. My exercise to walk from the station 1 mile home.... canal made curved card  foam pieces, brown, green paint. Day 5 dried, added lichen I found, stones, some deadwood. Will report back this is the stretch of line to widnes.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/3894-260320160737.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=89535)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 29, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
Sunday. Chilling at home before the 9 4 shift working home. May have to help elsewhere. But life goes on. I'm waiting for a few parts to arrive, so went to see mother at her home, sort her box on the wall . Shes asleep. Get told by the nurse who looks after her at the supported care home, charge nurse would love a word
 Ok. Have to wait in the reception. Fair enough. Neighbour is 70 plus, wanders around and a bit of a pain, but he has a farish tank loco, 2 mk1s, 5 trucks no track. I've come up with a plan. To help provide him stimulation, relaxation  see his trains go round, I've ordered scenics, track pins, and after a couple of conversations secured a secondhand pat tested h and m control and @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) , thanks mick , who kindly has sold track. I brought with the remaining bargain £5  a board. Will post when I've received the parcels
 
 Thanks mick. I cannot wait to see old boy with a little simple layout that's easy to carry, set up enjoying his layout. I'm sitting tight and will post more as and when
 Ditton is on hold although with dust and the  spring clean. I have thoroughly cleaned the track
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Newportnobby on March 29, 2020, 07:43:27 PM
Great what you are doing, Chris. Like I said, if the track was mine to dispose of it would be free but it's all part of the stuff I'm selling on behalf of someone else. Good luck.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 29, 2020, 07:47:00 PM
Thank you mick. Will be doing card kits for myself when not answering emails and on standby duty. Will post more on ditton but like everyone cutting back realised filmmaking do with what I have and making somebody ' s life more enjoyable, stimulating . It's difficult getting any parts so maybe a while. I'd rather put somebody else first . Thanks
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 01, 2020, 07:28:09 PM
It's been a strange few days ....what with conference  call, home working and a request as a qualified guard to do an emergency relief trip  , I've been watching YouTube clips  reading route familiarisation manuals. I train guards too. Home today .... waiting for ordered items to arrive. So work continues on ditton. I have due to space limitations worked on the line towards widnes hough green, and the tanhouse lane , the old ICI / BOC. Other traffic sees Fiddlers Ferry Power station, Warrington trip freight. Arpley trip freight speedlink. I too have installed the junction to the Ship Canal Junction and the Ditton Runcorn crossover plus a spur where Car trains ( off scene ) run to halewood , the Garston containers. Onto another board in the future. Which will be a fiddle yard so a coal, speeding  freightliner set can sit rather than in boxes. More another day
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: port perran on April 01, 2020, 07:43:27 PM
Sounds like youíve been busy.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 01, 2020, 07:47:00 PM
Sure. The emergency train was a relieve guard carrying essential supplies. But today has given me day off to research locos  stock and routes plus chores at home
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on April 02, 2020, 06:34:19 AM
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 02, 2020, 08:49:23 AM
Thanks @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) . Having researched motive power 1965 to 74 , at least an 8F  a Jubilee  Jinty, Fowler 3P  would have been  the area. Class 08  20, 24, 25, 31, 40, 47, 50, DMU would have been seen. I do have my Wrenn Micromodel Class 81 but that is waiting to be unpacked as in boxes. Plus Mk1 2 stick and a selection  of wagons reflecting traffic. I'm quite content with what have but when this wretched pandemic ends I'm on the lookout for suitable stock. STILL have to thank knightwing for their A20 station lamps, 3dprinting for the hard to get BRUTE trolleys  remember those,? , scenecraft , farish figures, building kits by freestone models.         Tiny signs range station posters , br station sign. By the way needed a magnifying glass. Northwestern models helped with the post box, signage, belisha beacons. @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) with the fencing. And thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) with the electrics. Waiting for the post to deliver. So more later

 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 02, 2020, 10:41:22 AM
Thanks to @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) the track has finally arrived
 I'm working from home today so will be nipping out for essential shopping and a board is under construction open frame. For my mums neighbour. The criteria is keep it lightweight, portable, has to sit on his coffee table as space is tight. The gent has an illness so also needs to be stimulated. I'm building a small layout  after discussions with the care staff. He has a Jinty tank loco, 2 mk 1s  , 4 wagons. So thanks  mick. Will be once I have the board.
...getting to a plan  has to be as simple as. Keep 70 year old entertained so he can see his love of his Jinty run.  I'm hopeless with any tech so mick has agreed kindly to donate @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-020420104020.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90111)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 02, 2020, 10:44:19 AM
Yes @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) , mick has agreed to add my £6 donation.  More on ditton later as I'm planning a 3rd board again portable that can slide away if need be up against a wall for me to eat at the table, when not in use. Just have to sort the trestle table and other matters first
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2020, 10:49:26 AM
Glad the parcel arrived safely (great service by RM) and hope you can create something for the old chap to enjoy.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 02, 2020, 10:52:51 AM
Thanks maybe a couple of days before he sees his new enjoyment. I've given him via the care staff an old shelf to place a long piece of flexi track for the time being but I'm waiting a new piece of wood and adding ends to shop inevitable rolling off his trains ending up on the floor. Will of course place photos.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 03, 2020, 09:54:35 AM
So the ditton layout goes ahead..... card buildings going ahead.ive received the board for my old gentleman friend. Further instructions. It must be portable ,  staff at the home can place on the coffee table, in the resident lounge etc. Thanks @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) for the track. Heres the plan and the oval. Plus sidings, space for more points but no retailer with mail order have stock. Pinning going ahead today of the track
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-030420095426.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90177)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on April 04, 2020, 03:49:08 PM
Looks nice Chris and good luck with the chap at the home, that's really good of you! How are you powering up this simple layout? Do you have a power supply for him? (If not, I might have a spare single H&M unit).

(At home: It's been manic busy here but family are well, ventured out a few days to get food, did actually find bread, milk, eggs and pasta so now the boys are happy, and just had a very long chat with my Mum, she's all fine too.)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 04, 2020, 03:54:44 PM
Thanks . I have been donated a spare controller as my cousin 's son has upgraded to something else, just need wires please. @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) text sent
 I've a week  to sort so keeping all simple. Work continues slowly on ditton. Albeit with screwfix not able to supply a trestle I've had to turn to a carpenter that's me and make my own and use a folding table I found in a skip believe it or not. Just needed new wing nuts screws and an hours work
 
 
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 05, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Ok sunday morning. Turning the clock back to 65 to 76   remember that long hot summer ? Greenery  the now long gone timber yard, forestry towards the weaver. This is my take and some weathered open wagons and Van's plus brake Van's are gaining an airing. Onto sir ' s layout still track pinning  but darren thanks for the wire. Controller arrived yesterday. Will be connecting up his tomorrow. As his layout the one to be taken up the home  will be tested obviously
 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-050420125007.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90315)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 05, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
In the meantime more scenery added. Paint drying so also waiting for wires so I'm cracking on with some work at home
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-050420125231.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90316)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 05, 2020, 08:08:34 PM
Lockdown sunday. Windows open. I've pinned yet more track down. I have used my last two polystyrene pieces,  pva smothered within and on  lint applied, then sprayed with aerosol meadow green I had in my box. Air freshener out. Thanks to my local diy store texting last soldering iron, stocks low  he is independent and only opening 4 hours a day. I used my walk and fresh air . A Bargain £12 . Soldered on wires to H & M controller. Thank you @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) shall look forward to the wires and will post again once tested. Sadly I learned a chap aged 89 passed and the lady who rang me said they contacted his one family member who did not want what was in a box or his belongings. A quick chat and the box would be left at a newsagent who used to deliver newspapers for him. They paid and cancelled there. The newsagent friend asked if I could collect and wow. A lima 31 green  4 wagons  a
Neglected signal box, 2 houses, a rather tacky tunnel. Loco works fine  just ran it on ditton . More tomorrow
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 06, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
So been progress.... darren  thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) I now have two tagged wires that can be attached to controller number 2. And soldered to fishplates. It's a day off here, so soldered two more tags and fishplates. Track pinning going on. Then testing tonight. Started slowly placing a few kits but not gluing as may donate two once i have tested the gentleman ' s green lima 31 and minty and cleaned up a little. No photos as tools everywhere
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 10, 2020, 01:10:17 PM
I'm still waiting building papers and items from freestone models great service and separate thread  plus the annoying mail track 48 having defeated the object of that. Ballast and scenic items rest with them to deliver. Company had sent that way. So unfazed I'm using card and wood offcuts to make buildings. Annoyingly but just crack on today. I have made a start with preparing building a station building
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on April 10, 2020, 05:46:40 PM
Hi Chris,

Ditton is looking great so far, looking forward to seeing this develop  :thumbsup:

All the best
Mark
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 10, 2020, 06:06:25 PM
Thanks mark @1977joey (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2657) , certainly annoying the post, but boredom has not set in , a few off cuts to create a scenic break and backscene whilst I test the oaps layout from ditton ' s power and the second single controller . I will post later on the ballasting when it arrives
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-100420180616.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90699)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 10, 2020, 07:59:20 PM
And yes, it's still hot, so windows open , I have been painting the scenic break, retaining walls constructed from wooden off cuts. A careful few strokes of paint on what stone card i have used represents stone walls seen around Cheshire. Better when I have ballasted.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-100420195911.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90710)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Jimmy77 on April 11, 2020, 09:44:35 AM
Hi Chris,

Have just been catching up with your build, good to see you making progress, looking good. Have fun with the ballasting!

Cheers,

Jimmy
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 11, 2020, 09:46:42 AM
Cannot wait to see aldersgate street. More later here
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 11, 2020, 02:38:08 PM
For @Jimmy77 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2554) and anyone else. Here is the result of phase 1...... ballasting sir ' s layout. A little pva and gaugemaster 115 in small areas worked in. Just remembered to mask tape the 3 points. And test ..... class 25 runs well.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-110420143713.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90761)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-110420143758.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90762)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on April 11, 2020, 03:11:06 PM
Ballasting is looking really good Chris  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 11, 2020, 04:44:50 PM
Thanks mark. It's a framed shot i took aiming the lenses under the scenic break. Frustrating waiting for the items I have paid and ordered but that's been today's task working in small areas to achieve the direct effect.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 13, 2020, 03:14:41 PM
Bank holiday monday. Still waiting for post and extra pieces to arrive for the chip's layout. So will be working quickly to have it to him by friday. Been building more card kits for it and waiting on glue to dry. Also track cleaning using graphite on ditton
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/3894-130420151432.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90921)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 15, 2020, 05:28:55 PM
I've finished 4 earlies although working at home, so a quick nap, a snack  , I can thank jerry at freestone for guiding me through excellent town building scenes that can be easily cut and glued to form a townscape, backscene, so I've incorporated printed sheets. The advertiser paper offices, laundrette , cafe, newsagent , coop, toys and models shop, townhouses  similar to the ones I grew up with and of course a Victorian style built station. Will be also praising northwesternmodels as am using ground frame kits, belisha beacons  painted figures that are cheaper and more effective bulk pack of 20, phone boxes,   bus stop sign. More on that when I get out to buy pva
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/3894-150420172844.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91033)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on April 15, 2020, 05:33:01 PM
Work in progress on the station x 2 as just need pva plus paint to arrive. Will update on scenics and street scene but after work to be completed

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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 02:07:17 PM
A bit of progress here. The layout I built for sir next door to mum has been sent and delivered despite some illness up there  , not mine . Mums well. The chap loves his layout, although it's been desanitized so had to avoid scenics. I had been lucky with track left over and an old board one myself I rescued out the loft after the refurb. Added with mick's load left over. A call to freestone and two retailers plus nw models, plus left overs in my scenic box inched slowly down the loft . So I found, lichen  , wood strips, polystyrene   , paint, bits of offcuts. I created the same track circuit as the one i built for sir. Added a right hand point unused i brought at stevenage.      I have cut strips for wood support, made a town square, station, goods facility. Darren @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) kindly supplied tags. So before scenics soldered 35 cms wire between boards onto track feeds  lovely job on my disc back stress, then wired to the unused hm controller second set of terminals and to the track. Presto.

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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 02:14:09 PM
Two photos. Whoops. I'm not going to try to shift one. Your looking at where ditton junction heads west to hale bank  , that's towards the map left to right away from the controller. Round the bend to speke road. The station and the through road represent my take on the access to garston freight , the container terminal, halewood, Ford plant and garston junction. Without another 30 feet this is impossible and I don't have the space. I'm unable to post photos
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 02:20:25 PM
A snap
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/3894-190420142002.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91278). A photo to support the text
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Post by: chrism on April 19, 2020, 03:22:57 PM
Looking good, Chris.

And, as a bonus, I can see my house  ;)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 03:26:15 PM
Thanks chris. Still got a long way to go. I'm planning to do some research on stock and structures from old photos. Most locos if not allerton based in 69 to 93 period were out based at arpley warrington but based at crewe or wigan springs branch.
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Post by: port perran on April 19, 2020, 03:39:56 PM
Looking good, Chris.

And, as a bonus, I can see my house  ;)
And I could put a cross on that map where  our house is too.

The layout is looking good too Chris.
What is all that white and grey stuff on the baseboard which looks like youíve tried to scrub it off?
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 03:49:04 PM
I wonder which house you two are in. Like the houses above shops I lived in during my time in allerton  , liverpool. Martin the attempt of a graphite pencil on paper to represent a road. The blooming hardware store owner did not open til late I mean 12 4 yesterday so no paint and I needed some grey paint for the flat as then i thought. Ah. I could do a job on garston village. I've used forest green shabby chic paint to do a hillside. Splodge on the village green
 Waiting for that to dry @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)   , @chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)  then tomorrow, as off, 4 on  4 off railways, prepare the pavement and stones , benches, pond on the  village green, bus stop ,church , pub kits then finish the road. All waiting for paint to dry
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Post by: lil chris on April 19, 2020, 03:55:50 PM
Aahh that old excuse waiting for the paint to dry, I am waiting for glue to dry...he...he.
Layout looking good,I was wondering what all that white and grey stuff was too but Martin has already asked the question.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
I used graphite to start as the paint dried on other bits I've worked on then as I started the village green too, so with new paint decided need to paint over the graphite and let that dry. One more coat. Next week..... road signs, pavements, shop signs will be added
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Post by: chrism on April 19, 2020, 04:07:12 PM
I wonder which house you two are in.

To be more accurate, I can't see my actual house but I can see the pixel upon which it sits - or, since it's on the wall, hangs  :D
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 04:19:53 PM
Especially for you chris. Strategically placed of course
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
Apologies. I've had issues with uploading photos and quotes. I'm not good with technology. Here is a shot at reply ,#95. And ..... @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) especially for you. I've deleted a few in the gallery accidentally
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 06:31:55 PM
For @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) . The extension I'm creating
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 06:34:00 PM
 :ngauge:The first photo shows halewood village . The imaginary line had had to be cut back as i do not have room to create the ford factory. The photo with the map shows garston village. Again  I do not have the room at home to create the garston container terminal
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Post by: degsy_safc on April 19, 2020, 06:57:11 PM
Looking good Chris, like Bob some of your pictures have just a blank space.

I did see your H&M duette controller in the background - ive got one of those too from my old Hornby layout, its been in its box for roughly 40 years lol..

Cheers Derek
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 07:06:25 PM
Thanks derek @degsy_safc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8267) . Technology issues @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) too. Now corrected. I'm having issues uploading so please be patient. More another day when I'm confident paint dry and parts I've ordered or been sorted by me are ready to plant and be photographed
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 19, 2020, 07:22:32 PM
1 more shot for the day
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 20, 2020, 05:20:22 PM
For @degsy_safc (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8267)  and @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) . Sorry had technical issues. Thanks tank has helped to resolve with only me 's help. I pressed a button. Not much done today as had other matters to deal with.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 20, 2020, 05:23:30 PM
Top left is halewood before expansion in the real place. And sorry I do not have space to model the ford factory. The other part shown is garston, sorry again 0 room to model the freight and container terminal.     
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 24, 2020, 08:49:20 AM
Update time. So a couple of horrid work shifts out the way....n I'm having the weekend to myself ...  once the shopping out the way, I will make some trees. There is a small public footpath at the bottom of a wood near home so may venture there for suitable twigs and branches. So far .... I have painted the road , its s slightly darker colour as only had a snap when the undercoat was down. More scraps of offcuts were transformed into a freight depot.                                                                     Then fencing was made with my gimlet twisting holes glueing nails that were made for picture framers and tying string  super gluing too. Finally when that dried adding ballast to represent gravel. The housing and chapel scene were cut from freestone models strips of backscenes. And pva on to strips off offcuts ensuring I cut the correct size
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/3894-240420084615.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91622).     I also used the lid from an old toothpick container for a container model left doors open.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/3894-240420084800.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91623)                a couple of other items .... I used letraset on white card to create signs and a post box, people and phone box hit from northwestern models
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 24, 2020, 11:19:07 AM
Just a couple of overhead shots, day off here so been thinking what next
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Post by: Innovationgame on April 24, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
That's as very, very busy layout!
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 24, 2020, 01:34:08 PM
Thanks laurence. Always look forward to your daily blogspot
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Post by: port perran on April 24, 2020, 02:40:25 PM
Lots going on there as Laurence says.
My main concern is those picture frame nails acting as fence posts.
I know what would happen to me!
Hand down - blood everywhere  :D
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 24, 2020, 02:46:21 PM
Very simple martin. Cannot obtain fencing in shops so out came the gimlet  , the pva. Bored holes then  placed those nails and once glue has dried file ends
 They are not that sharp and I so not feel the pain threshold. I did once slip off a ladder a long time ago and a nail ended up in my hand only half a cm in no blood and no pain. Onwards upwards with modelling
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 25, 2020, 05:32:19 PM
On the positive side, I have been able to clean up a piece of track with the graphite stick  , paint the fence, add lichen.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/3894-250420173139.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=91715).   I have added lichen to add to the forest just to fill a corner
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 25, 2020, 05:36:31 PM
Also the hill created from layers of card, tissue built on a framework of chicken wire, scraps of wood was sprayed garden grass colour from a tin I found in the hardware store, then lichen added
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Post by: DarrwestLU6 on April 27, 2020, 11:23:53 PM
Nice - you have been busy! Lots of progress there! Glad to hear you got the nasty shifts out the way.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 27, 2020, 11:49:29 PM
I'm still waiting .... on the replacement signal I ordered, only to find out via email a duff one had been sent. A  tough call and the chaos and the not helpful shop  assistant put me through to accounts, I got my refund. I've also found the model has been discontinued. Satisfied, yes, cash back, I called a different company and he is waiting an order from his distributor but had 4 items in stock and did me a sale £ 11 off plus I've ordered other bits. Great fun for therapy when after work and a nap, onto serious modelling
 So soldering fishplates that did arrive , installing a point after receiving a swap for a dodgy point blade I returned.  Yes , was sold a dodgy point with the tie bar loose. Weight off my mind. And resting tonight reading up on 8dassociation.btck.co.uk in hope I can recreate the stock used by chemical trains at albright Wilson, lever bros, crossfields, box, castner keller and ici  liquid petroleum gas at folly lane which can be just painted and transfers added. On my to do list for some stock in my box I picked up last year
 
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 30, 2020, 06:55:39 PM
So as april ends, may is near. Ouch, the first 4 months of the year near enough out the way....... I have installed a new point. I am waiting two more plus extra joiners, a couple of IRJs then plan to install them. I'm revising a small piece the track plan. Next week will have pieces i have ordered mail permitting and exchanging some for a spare controller from another forum member. This will allow separate control for a second person or if i wish to detach part of the layout and run separate. I did notice power feeds to two track is missing and not hundred percent, so hence the need for a second controller. I'm once the post had arrived with spare ordered ballast add the extra line at the works, ballast around the works itself borrowing a technique I have been sharing with @1977joey (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2657) , mark at shrewford. Thanks to darren @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)   , for electrics help. Items on order. So in the meantime  ,scenics under way at the back board. No photos yet. .... buildings still being placed and glued. And researching sourcing suitable stock
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 30, 2020, 07:07:28 PM
Yes, darkening some of the ballast as finding difficulty sourcing much darker stuff. So the emulsion tester pot came out and the last I have was trialled. Will let you know the results. Been looking at how to replicate the ici tanks, boc tanks  and the caustic soda tanks. The most difficult will be having to repaint as none available/ ever produced boc tanks except in 00. Then there are the iwa wagons from revolution trains seen hauled south on aluminium trains  , cannot wait to see them in the flesh. So for now. Happy reading. I'm looking into extra haa coal hoppers on the fiddlers ferry  , ffa and fga containers, speedlink wagons. That's the future
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Post by: gavin_t on April 30, 2020, 08:24:38 PM
Just spent some time reading through this thread. Certainly look like you have made some good progress on what looks like a sizable layout.
I look forward to some future updates and I am sure with your knowledge of things it will be a very comprohensive model  :D
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Post by: crewearpley40 on April 30, 2020, 08:26:44 PM
Thanks gavin. It's just having fun waiting for items to arrive and sourcing stock
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 01, 2020, 04:52:21 PM
So mayday and not quite the sos. Post arrived, just as I was reviewing an email saying rail joiners and other track  , a point  , IRJs plus other bits were shipped a day late and the company gave the wrong tracking number. Life must go on. Paul at CR Signals helpfully sent at £8 off the last two and I ordered signals so several 2 aspect dummy signals arrived. Cannot be bad. Just managed to find a helpful polite postman but trying to stuff them via my letter box. I was on the phone as working off home. Anyway roll on 2pm. Easy. Gimlet and bevel out. Several small holes no drill and a check that the plate under the signal was ok. No glueing as the signal has a screw so slotted in well. Pleased. 330pm . Ground frame and 3 light shunt signals placed
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3894-010520165212.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92198)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 01, 2020, 04:54:00 PM
Here is another close up
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3894-010520165351.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92199) you may have to enlarge the photo. Really pleased and realistic with the range
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 01, 2020, 06:08:04 PM
I have also to praise northwestern models run by kevin and chris who sell n gauge laser cut benches, people and an economy 20 people pack at £6  did seem reasonable so much I did manage to repaint one man to represent a station worker. Just glad I became involved I n gauge 15 year odd ago. Several home moves, a flat that became available 5year ago, a rebuild a year ago by the landlord.....time flies.still working on my total 16 x 4 foot available on 2 boards. I have had a loft clear out. Two small 3 x 2boards were obtained so loft was clear. I've transformed them into scenic pieces but can slide them off N old trestle table pair of legs. A mate had retired after 40 years as a painter and has back trouble. Thankfully he said yours or a skip . I offered 10 quid or milk and groceries. And he is 74 . Parted with 10 quid plus 2 pints milk. Two sturdy trestle legs are mine do now adding a shelf unit found in the loft to store trains I'm not running rather than them sitting in boxes. Job done
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 01, 2020, 06:10:16 PM
And another shot
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 02, 2020, 09:40:47 AM
Saturday morning. Gaugemaster ballast arrived.  Day to knuckle down to another board the chore we all either love or hate. Due to documented  supply issues dutfield's of chelmsford have stock so that will help replace the point and add an extra long siding  , and thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) , the second control piece is in it's way. Right other things to sort, so will post tonight
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 02, 2020, 04:15:35 PM
Today. Has been signalling research day. In 1993 real time ditton box was closed for good. It was the LNWR 40 lever type 5 downscaled to 25 levers in the 80s. A decent scaled down farish signaLbox was purchased last year at the  stevenage show  it was in a bargain box with the steps and roof needing placement glue. So..... knowing the area , if the ditton,Allerton slow lines made it impossible to access halewood if coming in off the widnes lines  and trains could only access halewood from runcorn , a ground frame would be needed and thus the crossover was installed at ditton west of the box in the 70s in my time frame to allow warrington and widnes low level freight to run to tanhouse lane or simply use ditton works reception siding . Headshunt signals 8002, 8004 and 8006 have been placed. I know signals have plates to tell drivers  signal staff, signal technicians and the box   to identify so. DN306 protects the junction under the west side of the bridge. It will protect speke junction , allows release of trains to 302, 307  , up to signal SE16 to allow freight to reverse east to ditton. Ditton DN 86 and 87 start trains for garston. HN22 protects freight at Garston Halton Junction and movements off the freight terminal to the garston and speke direction.      I have modelled signals HN23, G50 to allow fiddlers ferry via sutton  , these are over the back for warrington speedlink and fiddlers ferry hoppers. M53 and 52 protect monks sidings on warrington bound absolute block rule. I could not get litton mill in.           I did use nw models groundframe kit which is not fiddly just gentle pliers and dab of pva on the base and groundframe is at sankey bridge at the rear. It's been quite a challenge to model in n gauge using square cuts of plasticard with letraset lettering and glueing onto the tiny signals. I must say using cr signals they are easy to work with instal and uncomparable to berko eckons I have used in the past. Even DN306 which I showed earlier is a cr signal kit. Chris and Paul at rotherham superb detailed easy and friendly.   
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Post by: gavin_t on May 02, 2020, 10:21:27 PM
Looks and sounds like more great progress  :D

As always I am impressed with your attention to detail and real railway knowledge of workings that you are applying to your model
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 02, 2020, 10:26:50 PM
Thank you gavin. Many years on the real railway @gavin_t (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7707) plus looking at  notes taken c 1989 to 93 . I did live in the liverpool , cheshire area and found even then a drawer ful of working timetables in a chargemans office amongst other items that were not good. Nevertheless I kept the timetables, freight books, plus noted old photos I took. Worth going to a railway station as soon as the time is safe. Signalling is on cr signals website, plus the sites I mentioned in previous posts.         
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 08:36:36 AM
Later today, once I have returned from the daily walk  and sorted signs the type you see on signal posts , yes , I'm constructing my own from plasticard cuts and letraset will be posting.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 11:02:10 AM
Ok morning, coffee number 3  , not looking forward to monday. So here is the cr signal in the background, the working 2 aspect berko eckon lit up in the foreground. With the resistor wired and soldered and the wire threads. Sadly I returned one due to the craftsmanship and non working wires which were soldered badly. I do recommend paul at cr signals
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Whoops two photos. Will be saying I'm just going to be fixing a signal in after lunch then working out plans for wiring and installing another point when it arrives  , so please be patient
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 03, 2020, 08:37:53 PM
More research on the signalling going on here. But here is a photo of my class 25 at the signal I've installed from.cr signals. There is a small pin at the base of the plate which the signal is attached underneath. Just had to drill one tiny hole

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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 04, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
Another week starts. Once the points arrive plus extra fishplates, I hope then to finish the section round to sutton, the runcorn gap and sankey, which is where the actual eastbound lines diverge for warrington and fiddlers ferry .plus the fun will be adding extra capacity to control a freight line on the extended board once that control panel has arrived. In the meantime ....... still fiddling with the cases on the back of ground shunt signals from Paul at cr signals
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 04:18:31 PM
Today items arrived. I'm pinning down certain pieces of track and adding 2 extra sidings where otherwise failed locos I have that will only just need a siding and rather sit in a box will sit. Bit more ballasting to do and cleaning a couple of rails , despite having been on an early shift
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Post by: GrahamB on May 05, 2020, 06:11:03 PM
How have I missed this thread until now?

Good read, keep going.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
Thanks graham. Look forward to more on your layouts
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 06, 2020, 01:39:30 PM
Bit of a slow day today..... so still researching the actual signals in my chosen area. It was not until recent times that signalling has been transferred to manchester and these rail operating centres as they call them. I model the days when signal boxes were in operation. Halton Junction which is the spur  connecting the weaver junction to ditton, and warrington to Fordham and chester was not advanced as it is today, nor was the curve in place or the chord, connecting chester to liverpool south parkway. Monks sidings and the low level to warrington arpley via fiddlers ferry was an active hunting ground for class 20s hauling haa coal wagons  , trains at ditton passed the crumbling large signalbox which was vandalised in the mid 90s, speke junction, allerton junction were controlled by ditton although had their own designated signal post letters and numbers. Heady days
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 07, 2020, 08:36:32 AM
Before today gets really underway, yes have work to do, I received the extra pieces I needed and thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) here is the extra H & M clipper just added, soldered wires to allow extra power to the sidings . Off to sort a replacement part  , have a walk, then more later
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3894-070520083625.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92812)
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Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 08, 2020, 05:02:04 PM
Thatís a nice photo Chris - looking proper industrial! Enjoy the weekend hopefully you donít have to work any unreasonable shifts.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 08, 2020, 05:23:21 PM
No Darren . No shifts until? , @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)  , I've done my bit  for now. If you want proper industrial scenes. I've used the old part of an office chair I found in a skip,  the rubber and polystyrene tube in the piece between the seat and the base and tube down to the legs . It was a badly broken chair. Salvage. Add a shed kit from bh enterprises ' martin with signage I printed and reinforced plasticard roof, plasticard office and factory buildings, 7 loo rolls painted black , a peco industrial backscene, a freestone models one plus scenes I drew on wallpaper representing the mersey and cammell laird at birkenhead  , a farish poole era goods shed, plasticard building I designed myself.
 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3894-080520172312.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92905)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 08, 2020, 05:29:44 PM
Ok photos wrong sequence. The shot in the previous sequence contains strips of wood  with freestone models, terraced housing, low relief buildings I cut from thick card and building papers. A rail served freight depot made from wood scraps and carefully measured with pencil and steel rule to check clearances. A station made in the same method. Just have to source suitable cars,Van's  bus. And florists lichen mixed with gaugemaster 118 ballast, lichen and a chapel kit in low relief.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/3894-080520172936.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92906)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 09, 2020, 08:02:22 PM
Not much progress afraid today. Cleaning track and fishplates repaired on a board as I noticed a track was not aligning only to find i had an old piece that needed replacing. And just sourcing parts and items
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 10, 2020, 04:21:32 PM
A quiet sunday
 Not much happening apart from track cleaning
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 11, 2020, 08:50:35 AM
I will post some info as will research:  https://www.simsig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:edgehill (https://www.simsig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=simulations:edgehill)   and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling) as wishing to check signalling . I will say the crossover to sankey and the board and the single line between monks sidings and sutton weaver is protected . The goods yard there and sidings are operated by a ground frame and can only be unlocked by a key at the end of the single line token. I'm also looking at protecting the single line . More later
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 12, 2020, 10:20:33 AM
Not much to report. Sourcing other wagons. Having seen :    http://www.leightonlogs.org/boctanks.htm (http://www.leightonlogs.org/boctanks.htm) and only available in a larger scale, I've seen peco do a tank , so more hunting      https://www.flickr.com/photos/ixion172/6263949758 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ixion172/6263949758)   and       https://www.flickr.com/photos/71592768@N08/12194542524. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71592768@N08/12194542524.)   
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 12, 2020, 03:11:36 PM
It's been a strange long day here
 So off work  , scratching heads and if anybody like me trying to source stock ,  look no further than :    https://www.modelraildatabase.com/ (https://www.modelraildatabase.com/)          I've worked the 08s  , 20s   ,and if anybody wondering   , no modelling going on I'm searching old photos on the http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/ (http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/) website.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 13, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
So here is an overview. Just constructing a couple of industrial items from thick card and plasticard, waiting for some n gauge people to arrive, and compiling stock lists especially the chemical tanks that ran to runcorn, coal has wagons, a few mk2s and doing some research. I have heard mum ok, as is the old chap I built his layout. Due to circumstances visits dre not allowed and after illnesses a while ago up there plus going onto a 2 day unit work week , being a good lad and researching local lines in my area
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 16, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Just painted the base of the knightwing relay boxes and added a card and plasticard safe walking route with some real coal in obtained inspecting a preserved railway  and yes, had a couple of freezer bags to transport it home, more of the  chipped unusable pieces plus a good sprinkle of Woodlands scenics cinders and wilko black emulsion paint for representing oil spillage mixed with varnish streaks.  Great where I have a diesel that's broken down on shed and 2 between duties. Have found my labelle oil and applicator so lubricating a loco that just needed a drop and found after running a track cleaner plus a cotton bus ouch dirt.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 17, 2020, 07:02:37 PM
Lazy sunday. Still researching the chemical trains and seeing what is available. Here is what I've achieved in 15ft x 4 thus far
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/3894-170520190137.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93558).    Just to say it's a challenge searching for suitable wagons, the coaching stock has been easier to find
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 19, 2020, 09:33:27 PM
I'm still working on suitable stock  , freightliners from the 70s 80s are hard to find and everything else had been located from research. I spoke to Ken at john dutfield who is happily obliging so keeping up to speed and date on that front. Just waiting for the mail to deliver and re inserting a couple of fishplates after track cleaning showed up 3 bent ones. Work has got in the way so off for a few days rest and buildings to be placed and pway duty then stock but yes. It's been a fun exercise.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 08:09:07 AM
Here is a bit of fun I am experimenting with ... 
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 08:11:17 AM
Apologies it's my first attempt with a youtube clip and posting one. Being honest it's part of a learning curve and my 1st day off after a 13 day stint. https://youtu.be/EcJyvoXrZoA
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 12:52:52 PM
Apologies all technical problems .....
. Here we go.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
Here we go.... couple of views with new fishplates inserted
 Research into freight stock still ongoing.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/3894-200520125721.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93757)   and a couple of minitrix mk1s found in a box. I paid £20 for them.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/3894-200520125919.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=93758)
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Post by: DarrwestLU6 on May 20, 2020, 02:17:06 PM
Apologies all technical problems .....
. Here we go.

Great video Chris - well done on getting that done. Just caught this on my lunch break. (I'll drop Bob a note to see how he is getting on loading photos!)
Layout is coming on great guns.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 03:29:44 PM
Thanks it was my first attempt and after a tiring 13 days on the trot @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) , tad shaky without a tripod so I can control a train moving. Will try another time after a thread was posted elsewhere which helped me achieve my first go.  It was this link earlier   https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=49597.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=49597.0)                     that helped so follow the instructions @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) , and here we go....
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Post by: Nbodger on May 20, 2020, 03:48:19 PM
We are always learning something new either from others or by experimenting

Stay Safe and well

Mike H  8)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 03:50:06 PM
True mike
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 07:32:06 PM
Sorry still sourcing stock.  But .....
    here we go with a class 25 / 2 and 4 mark 1s
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 07:34:21 PM
Whoops that was the whirlwind tour . Heres to 25235 
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
Whoops bit quick. Still practising holding a phone youtube and shunting .... 
. Not easy. Its been a hot day at ditton. More updates when I have stock.  Installing 5 fishplates on certain track pieces and point levers which are dummy.
 
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 11:20:11 AM
Enjoying today off. Spending time looking at .... https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/34/07/3340757_eb7f9a2f.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3340757&tbnid=gWckoBgS5DdY4M&vet=1&docid=NzUi7qJxTa77BM&w=640&h=486&q=warrington+central+cheshire+lines&hl=en-GB&source=sh/x/im (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/34/07/3340757_eb7f9a2f.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3340757&tbnid=gWckoBgS5DdY4M&vet=1&docid=NzUi7qJxTa77BM&w=640&h=486&q=warrington+central+cheshire+lines&hl=en-GB&source=sh/x/im)                 this is clc architecture at warrington, then there is of course comprising.... would love the garston container freightliner depot, halewood ford and jaguar. Cannot fit all in except on backscenes. Do that I say I be happy. The since demolished freight yard built 1931  , closed 1988 in reality has been modelled, plus the chapel, terraced houses, shops with flats. And created a park  , the wagon repairs works and the other interest ..... heading north, the backscene depicting fiddlers ferry. I discussed with 2 other members on another thread you cannot incorporate everything. Also the chemical works at folly lane  only part of that and tanhouse lane have been created . I love the sweeping curve, the left, and right bends into the Unilever dominated warrington bank quay . 
     
                                  But then I ask what about the eastbound scenery towards widnes ? Compromise was the key
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 11:42:07 AM
Here is a bit of history .....
  and going back  .....            in time        .....         https://youtu.be/ZS3ZJXMcKnM   part 1. Part 2 is here  .....  https://youtu.be/bR5GYXi217k              amazing what you learn from history. The junction  has been modelled as has the wooden part 2 bridge that anthony Quinn  has. I have the https://images.app.goo.gl/bQwacb3HXhSufAi29  clasp and concrete buildings in place but the next job after stock has been sourced. ....... dummy catenary for the halewood line if I can source some
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 12:04:14 PM
Then we have
     and        this     
. The salt works to consider.  Plus https://images.app.goo.gl/VxTWAjWtxh7gF6DK6 (https://images.app.goo.gl/VxTWAjWtxh7gF6DK6)       yes    the boc trains. Looking at http://www.leightonlogs.org/boctanks.htm (http://www.leightonlogs.org/boctanks.htm)   and   http://www.leightonlogs.org/12038083006.jpg (http://www.leightonlogs.org/12038083006.jpg)   I have a TEA tank I'm.modifying plus a TTA simple as none in gauge so white paint, red stripe, printed decals.    The fiddlers ferry coal traffic and speedlink are readily available
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
2 more coaches on the test run before being sent to work on the Bangor manchester ......
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Post by: Jimmy77 on May 21, 2020, 03:12:04 PM
Enjoying today off. Spending time looking at .... https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/34/07/3340757_eb7f9a2f.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3340757&tbnid=gWckoBgS5DdY4M&vet=1&docid=NzUi7qJxTa77BM&w=640&h=486&q=warrington+central+cheshire+lines&hl=en-GB&source=sh/x/im (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/34/07/3340757_eb7f9a2f.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3340757&tbnid=gWckoBgS5DdY4M&vet=1&docid=NzUi7qJxTa77BM&w=640&h=486&q=warrington+central+cheshire+lines&hl=en-GB&source=sh/x/im)                 this is clc architecture at warrington, then there is of course comprising....

Hi Chris,

That's a fine looking building, would be good to be able to recreate something like that.

Cheers,

Jimmy
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 03:29:33 PM
Jimmy. @Jimmy77 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2554)   , afraid that would have to be scratchbuilding. As your modelling london most scalescenes , freestonemodel.co.uk kits would fit in unless unlike lightermans yard would be scratchbuilding and some of mine are. I used plasticard and evergreen items https://evergreenscalemodels.com/ plus the works shed from martin at BHE but also farish  , scalescene and scenecraft
 
 
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 06:52:32 PM
Apologies still battling living in a seriously hot flat and mastering the phone  , controller. Now wondering whether to buy a cheap tripod or stand .....
. Yes shaky I know and the inopportune moment the hayfever sneeze , hence the carpet shot
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 21, 2020, 07:20:43 PM
Last clip for now. Struggling with hayfever,so handheld out. A quick tour showing low relief houses, flats after extra quick shunting.  Enjoy
...
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Signalling planning day ....   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling.)   And  http://www.railsigns.uk/home.html. (http://www.railsigns.uk/home.html.) so plenty of bank holiday reading for me...... waiting some items so more another day
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 23, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
Bank holiday weekend and fun with the latest arrivals to keep the s and t department happy . Cr signals 2 aspect dummy signals x 2 installed and arrived safely . The class 08 and 25 are at the respective signals
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/3894-230520110128.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94000)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 24, 2020, 07:53:04 PM
Not much today done here except tidying up the rear board after a wagon derailed. Human error, working in poor light in January meant pins were not driven in, then lockdown, peco closing. Thanks to John dutfield who sold me much better solid pins and a few clearance straight,  pins that's Monday's task. At sankey, the Warrington CLC route. Then today, berko reckon signal on the right, cr signals on the left. Cr signals have a sturdy plate and pin so easier to install after the gimlet and tiny drill came out. Led lights pop in  ,two wires connect soldered onto long wire into 12 v hammant. Darren and I was back added the berko eckon . Nightmare but still works 2 aspect.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-240520195253.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94080)
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Post by: Innovationgame on May 25, 2020, 07:35:16 AM
Nice to see the work in progress. :thumbsup:
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 26, 2020, 05:30:29 PM
So today has been a real horrid early morning at work, home for rest etc and the last two hours  adding knightwing station trolleys, luggage, crates  plus a task I inspected and realised needed doing. Crawling around under the boards securing loose wiring into a choc bloc, like this  


After fixing loose wires into these choc blocks stiffness crept in , so job done. Then taping around the backscene join and strengthening the two boards broken where the backscene joins after the builders caused damage albeit minor. Fixed . Phew.   Last job, open my mail ..... thanks to 
           
          Alan the ford pallet Van's finally arrived after being held up at gatwick mail for days. Big shout out to john dutfield and ken
     
                                                                                                     url=https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94226](https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-260520172927.jpeg) (http://images.app.goo.gl/Kuh7KDhTyikEToQ66)                     and        a second shot
...


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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 26, 2020, 05:42:06 PM
Apologies technical issues
....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-260520174152.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94231)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 26, 2020, 05:44:47 PM
Thanks to alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) , yes ford, erm sorry the snail mail delivered. Thanks john dutfield at https://www.johndutfieldmodelrailways.co.uk/ (https://www.johndutfieldmodelrailways.co.uk/)                    and ken anyone needing peco items recommended. Still tired from early morning workings here
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Whilst I await the mail, I had a search for locos and  http://www.class25.info/ (http://www.class25.info/) yes this source has simply clarified 25221 and 25109 ran in the area during my time span on passenger workings plus 25260. All crewe locos in the day. Plus D3546 or 08431 in green and 08350 the once pre tops d3420. So today being off will be t cut day. Yep renumbering. More later
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 05:48:27 PM
Mail mail. Slow. So out came t cut. After searching    http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=D&id=8&page=fleet (http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&type=D&id=8&page=fleet)   and indeed my late 70s mid 80s guesstimate became reality. 08431 allerton allocated. 25109 and 25221 of crewe. Both given     
 t c ut and transfers. Tiny letraset for all under £3 as other suppliers were not answering. Left to dry. Still not lost the day , cleaning track after a relay over the back board and fiddling around with odd jobs
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 06:59:45 PM
Couple of shots...
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-290520185918.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94472)  25221 shunting a rake of mk1s
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 07:02:44 PM
08431 shunting a haa, chemical tank  ,castner, boc single 4 wheel  , vda  vea and ford pallet vans
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-290520190233.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94473)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 29, 2020, 07:11:37 PM
 The shunter had collected these from liverpool halewood and allerton to the works then shunt the haa hopper ,the speedlink vea and vda plus the grey chemical tank for the evening trip to warrington arpley. Castner and boc tanks will head to the chemical reception siding for folly lane   , the ford pallet Van's team offer to help attach them to a crewe bound brake to save   space and a path for them to travel to dagenham. All in a days work for 08431 whose sister locos are at warrington preparing for an inbound chemical and Van's trip
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/3894-290520191124.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=94476)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2020, 08:21:34 PM
Hi apologies quality is not great. Trying to hold camera on youtube , video and controlling plus flicking  point. Ugly. Ugh. 08431 shunting chemicals tanks plus lpg tank onto the arpley trip. Video to follow
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Post by: crewearpley40 on May 31, 2020, 08:32:22 PM
Here we go https://youtu.be/YjwyvHOWZ8w                    a  real frustrating day and still waiting for the parcel to arrive
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 01, 2020, 08:00:04 AM
Hopefully later today   or positive permitting the covhop duo will give 31434 wagons to haul as she has worked the Sheffield liverpool and will return to warrington on the speedlink,  the covhops working in the Roche dalry pharmaceuticals, my hea wagon, Ciba geigy tank,  Vans in the consist which were repaired at the works.  In the good old days an allerton 08 would shunt the train as I depict , however the train loco would carry out the shunting. Caustic soda tank and the chlorine tank would be shunted with the barrier wagon , an old farish  , and the 08 would retire to folly lane to collect pure dried soap for shampoo, granular salt wagon the stuff we put in water softeners , then return for the chlorine wago n   , the boc tank, and shunt onto the vda wagons onto 31434. Then the 08 collects 08534 and the TEA tanks for the st Helen's trip ready for the run via st Helen's, wigan and onwards before a rest and refuel. Meanwhile 25221 shunts the stock for the crewe and onwards as a relief service
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 01, 2020, 07:55:47 PM
Still twiddling for stock I have ordered so researching:  http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=main&id=16 (http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=main&id=16) which helps with allerton locos, shunting duties  , http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=locos&id=156 (http://www.brdatabase.info/sites.php?page=depots&subpage=locos&id=156) that of crewe diesel , and indeed other depots
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 04, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
Still waiting for mail so planning goes on with https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/allerton (https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/allerton)  plus    http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/signal/signal_boxesm.shtm#manchesterroc (http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/signal/signal_boxesm.shtm#manchesterroc)     and the last board which will be a scaled down version of the carriage sidings and storing stock placed on a board on flexi track as have been emptying boxes. Yes, 19 days on the trot work
 Now 5 off , and just enjoying the forum
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 07, 2020, 07:10:04 PM
Evening all. Just been running the stock shunting and discovered the wheel set of a mk 1 brake had wheels which were not happy. Supply box out of my stores, new wheels slotted in and runs like a treat. Looks like my good supplier ken has tracked down some wagons I've identified ran in my area so an order will be placed. More later on that
 Then ugh  . . The frustrating berko signal was playing up solder iron, screwdriver and shifting from that awful flat on my back to crawling around. Still flickers but not great. At least I can thank paul and chris at cr signals after a call.  Gaugemaster don't stock berko eckons, so glad I could slot the pin under the cr signal base plate, the inspection found paul ' s son , real pleasant lad,  had kindly soldered the resistor and wires. Borrowing a sketch drawn in January thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) on a napkin in costa I could rewire that. Just will test tomorrow, my last of 5 days off when the back is less sore as I have a plate in the lower disc and owing to the op I had when small
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 12, 2020, 08:11:26 PM
It's been nearly a week, still lot to do but I have re wheeled a couple of wagons with plastic wheels removed in favour of metal ones , improved running on the mk 1s which are a mixture of lima, minitrix and farish. And tackywax applied to thankfully 2 couplings. More freight stock on order. When I get a chance will be adding the fiddle yard and displaying all the stock I've accumulated in boxes
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 16, 2020, 05:36:18 PM
Hi after another bout of long days, time to fix more track and a new siding . The parcels Van's have failed en route so warrington have added a full brake onto an excursion and that in turn will return to crewe once the repairs have fixed the errant broken sheet of a gangway corridor drape before it can be locked ready to be added to a 100 mph service. Meanwhile I have at last after not much sleep woken and tested 14 locos plus discovered only 25221 needed a clean. I noticed new tooling plus an old style mechanism so thanks to a forum member, undid 1 plate  checked the bogies. The loco is dcc ready but runs on analogue. I dare not put a pin in any oil. The gears are smoothly running, so are the current collecting strip. 30 minutes later the shed exam passed, add 4 mark 1s runs well . 6 Van's good as gold. Thanks Alex hailstone. Still adding tackywax after a peco wagon seemed not to enjoy coupling to a farish and thus enough now after an hour cleaning the track checking bouncing wagons causing the couplings tension to loosen. All good. Board 5 is now pinned but will be the fiddle yard waiting stock to be set out. Tomorrow' s plan
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: degsy_safc on June 16, 2020, 08:59:17 PM
Hi after another bout of long days, time to fix more track and a new siding . The parcels Van's have failed en route so warrington have added a full brake onto an excursion and that in turn will return to crewe once the repairs have fixed the errant broken sheet of a gangway corridor drape before it can be locked ready to be added to a 100 mph service. Meanwhile I have at last after not much sleep woken and tested 14 locos plus discovered only 25221 needed a clean. I noticed new tooling plus an old style mechanism so thanks to a forum member, undid 1 plate  checked the bogies. The loco is dcc ready but runs on analogue. I dare not put a pin in any oil. The gears are smoothly running, so are the current collecting strip. 30 minutes later the shed exam passed, add 4 mark 1s runs well . 6 Van's good as gold. Thanks Alex hailstone. Still adding tackywax after a peco wagon seemed not to enjoy coupling to a farish and thus enough now after an hour cleaning the track checking bouncing wagons causing the couplings tension to loosen. All good. Board 5 is now pinned but will be the fiddle yard waiting stock to be set out. Tomorrow' s plan

Sounds like a very busy day Chris..

Cheers Derek
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 16, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
Thanks derek. It's more like 16/ rather than 24 /7
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 17, 2020, 09:07:31 AM
Looks like a review of http://service.bachmann.co.uk/knowledge-base/instruction-sheets/ (http://service.bachmann.co.uk/knowledge-base/instruction-sheets/) and not much help from farish, have led me to another look at 25221. Working from home today, a little run in and wondering if I need to gently do more maintenance ? A job for crewe. Makes you wonder why locos are not made for analogue only.   A quick call to the shop i brought them from and purchase of n gauge dapol easi shunt https://www.dapol.co.uk/2a-000-010-n-gauge-easi-fit-magnetic-couplings-short-arm-1-pair-866 (https://www.dapol.co.uk/2a-000-010-n-gauge-easi-fit-magnetic-couplings-short-arm-1-pair-866)  plus some peco pl 64 https://peco-uk.com/products/power-lube (https://peco-uk.com/products/power-lube)  seems to have done the trick. Another first for me as never used to be able to service my own. Wayne at kernow has the same loco so we shared stories.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 17, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
I will report back on 25221 and fitting the new couplings. Looks like a duff batch on my loco and none left. Kernow have also kindly agreed to send a mere 10 in a pack due to me receiving £25 exhibition discount at stevenage show plus me screenshotting the errant coupling. Paid for me to ignore the lubricant bachfar supply. I'm sparingly going to apply oil but running her with my early farish 25078 and 259 today has caused no problems . Thanks hailstone for your advice. I did manage to find an old single and working controller in a drawer at work, the boss kindly let me take it home to test on the fiddle yard . No photos, 1 5 x 2 piece of wood to show 08489, 08704, 20059, 20168  20073, 20082 dummy pair  , 25078, 25259, 31464, 47192, my dmu, mk2s.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
Today ' s not been fun until 3pm what with an early start and the last for a while. So 08431 and 489 have been shunting . 25221 still awaits a new coupler but she has at last managed a trip or two with a parcel with tackywax the last blob I brought a long time ago. That's for now solved the errant couple so solves farish, peco and unwanted uncoupling. Phew
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Post by: Nbodger on June 18, 2020, 04:18:11 PM
Today ' s not been fun until 3pm what with an early start and the last for a while. So 08431 and 489 have been shunting . 25221 still awaits a new coupler but she has at last managed a trip or two with a parcel with tackywax the last blob I brought a long time ago. That's for now solved the errant couple so solves farish, peco and unwanted uncoupling. Phew

Chris,
It is good that you have had time to do a bit of shunting and have a temporary solution for your coupling problems.

Enjoy while you can

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 18, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
Thanks mike. It was @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) I have to thank for promoting tackywax . If the  couplers that will hope fully solve 221 's couplers. I suspect it was a duff batch from which I brought and learnt the lesson to notice harder at exhibitions but with some unhygienic bloke leaning across me not even saying excuse me. So job done during time out. Stay safe.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 23, 2020, 03:34:03 PM
It's been 5 days, yet more early starts at work. 25221 has had tackywax applied so that's stopped a couple of peco wagons uncoupling when they should not. The peco HAA coal hoppers can be see with the class 20s with the dapol easi shunt couplers but no photos for now. Tricky but fun. The rest will be fitted at the weekend. 25221 has had her no 1 end couple fixed. Wayne at kernow was incredibly helpful and sold me the lube with a free nozzle so just a needle dip of that sided the errant gear. Will post more later as been up since 5 !
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Post by: Nbodger on June 23, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
Cheers Chris,

Thank you for your update

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 23, 2020, 03:47:29 PM
No worries mike. Been a challenging day so it's nice to be able to relax and enjoy a hobby whilst on my own and unwind doing little jobs at a time
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Post by: Nbodger on June 23, 2020, 03:50:17 PM
No worries mike. Been a challenging day so it's nice to be able to relax and enjoy a hobby whilst on my own and unwind doing little jobs at a time

Chris,
I started Hillsden as a way to relax from the stresses of work, model railways take you into your own miniature world, where you can forget the problems of daily life.

Mike H
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Post by: port perran on June 23, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
Iím glad you find Wayne helpful Chris.
He is such a nice chap.
Heís secretary of our club and it was he and I who put the recent Hayle MRC Virtual Show together.
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Post by: crewearpley40 on June 23, 2020, 03:56:06 PM
Thanks he mentioned camborne, guess Martin that the kernow home. You can say his advice has helped with the 25. He I'd mention  he had exactly the same but different number as it was one of the first batch @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)  and I did enjoy the hayle virtual show
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 28, 2020, 08:07:44 PM
Not much has been done except ordering wheels and changing some rather old plastic ones for metal ones plus a couple of odd jobs. Then of course I'm still adding a red star scenecraft and a metcalfe kits building strengthened with plasticard. Have been using the new xuron cutters to trim a piece of flexi track and wiring a fiddle yard piece for testing locos
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Post by: crewearpley40 on July 01, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
Help its july already. Where have the last 6 months gone ?  I've been on nights yikes, so after being woken by the post and a noisy addict neighbour plus 6 awesome hours sleep I have gently fitted metal farish wheels to all stock,   tested and can say after an hour driving my layout testing all works. So the weekend off will be fiddle yard building
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Post by: LASteve on July 02, 2020, 04:00:56 AM
Enjoy your weekend, Chris, well deserved. We've got a three-day one here beginning Friday for July 4th so hopefully we'll be able to make progress too on this side of the pond. Thanks for the updates.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 04:50:24 AM
Thanks steve. Yes , will be quietly constructing more buildings like the red star, a couple of offices I've kitbashed, those who remember the old CLASP BUILDINGS ( see  https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/CLASP (https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/CLASP) )
          Yes , a tatty building I remember plus a backscene I have sketched out will be seen to and see if I can utilise. Sometimes , like to sit back and watch the 25s on a freight train or my 47 haul 6 mark 1s or 2s whilst I visualise the backscene and what needs to be done next
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Post by: degsy_safc on July 02, 2020, 08:47:05 PM
Help its july already. Where have the last 6 months gone ?  I've been on nights yikes, so after being woken by the post and a noisy addict neighbour plus 6 awesome hours sleep I have gently fitted metal farish wheels to all stock,   tested and can say after an hour driving my layout testing all works. So the weekend off will be fiddle yard building
Hi Chris,

Yes itís incredible, especially that 3 of the previous months have been in lockdown, I was amazed at how quick that flew by. Nice that youíve got your testing complete and youíre looking forward to some fiddle yard construction. Enjoy your weekend and good luck with the fiddle yard..

Cheers Derek
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Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 08:52:12 PM
Derek. Thanks. Its flown by. With the space available I have a 6ft x 2 or slightly under offcut that just lines up with already laid track and like a traverse slides off with wooden battens at the end and sides just to hold stock.  Nothing fancy. Will be adding a few wires so can test stock again nothing fancy plus some kit bashing buildings in between housework
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Post by: degsy_safc on July 02, 2020, 09:11:52 PM
Derek. Thanks. Its flown by. With the space available I have a 6ft x 2 or slightly under offcut that just lines up with already laid track and like a traverse slides off with wooden battens at the end and sides just to hold stock.  Nothing fancy. Will be adding a few wires so can test stock again nothing fancy plus some kit bashing buildings in between housework

Good luck Chris,

Ditch the housework until Monday, have a full productive weekend on the layout  :thumbsup:

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 02, 2020, 09:16:40 PM
Derek. I could but my other half and I need to do an hours job the only mess I was hoping to clear was any sawdust after battens were made and the sides on the traverse. Appreciate your concerns. Wiring was simply those soldered to fishplates
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
The inevitable ..... called in to work to lend a hand, some person was irate and after a quiet 8 am run to Northampton off london on a unit with a smelly part, and no was not going to risk my health examining issues, safely home, a nod off to sleep after a shower. 4 wooden legs and a table glued, bolted, clamped for drying. It was a table that needed mending. A flat pack piece of furniture arrived so that was assembled. So just placing my piece of wood and glueing sides and an end piece to stop trains rolling where they should not.           Should be now 3 rest days to as Derek kindly suggest play trains .
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Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2020, 06:05:49 PM
And here .... is tomorrow 's plan http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/51376/42-191-Graham-Farish-Scenecraft-Red-Star-Parcels-Office (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/51376/42-191-Graham-Farish-Scenecraft-Red-Star-Parcels-Office)  to fix. I will be looking into replicating https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F50%2FDitton_railway_station_%2528disused%2529_%252812%2529.JPG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDitton_railway_station&tbnid=4x2w9PrAmEkwYM&vet=1&docid=RaXlUObFKYdutM&w=4320&h=3240&q=ditton%20station%20buildings&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F50%2FDitton_railway_station_%2528disused%2529_%252812%2529.JPG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDitton_railway_station&tbnid=4x2w9PrAmEkwYM&vet=1&docid=RaXlUObFKYdutM&w=4320&h=3240&q=ditton%20station%20buildings&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)   and                       the station I found                          here      http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/ditton_junction/ (http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/ditton_junction/)   although it was ugly and I used to live 1 mile down westwards but will not replicate all of it. Looks like the plasticard will be in use.   
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Post by: Nbodger on July 04, 2020, 06:20:35 PM
The inevitable ..... called in to work to lend a hand, some person was irate and after a quiet 8 am run to Northampton off london on a unit with a smelly part, and no was not going to risk my health examining issues, safely home, a nod off to sleep after a shower. 4 wooden legs and a table glued, bolted, clamped for drying. It was a table that needed mending. A flat pack piece of furniture arrived so that was assembled. So just placing my piece of wood and glueing sides and an end piece to stop trains rolling where they should not.           Should be now 3 rest days to as Derek kindly suggest play trains .

Chris

You have had a busy day, definitely three days playing trains

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2020, 06:23:39 PM
Thanks mike. Intended plan here
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: LASteve on July 04, 2020, 07:20:10 PM
I will be looking into replicating [url]https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F50%2FDitton_railway_station_%2528disused%2529_%252812%2529.JPG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDitton_railway_station&tbnid=4x2w9PrAmEkwYM&vet=1&docid=RaXlUObFKYdutM&w=4320&h=3240&q=ditton%20station%20buildings&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim[/url] ([url]https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F50%2FDitton_railway_station_%2528disused%2529_%252812%2529.JPG&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDitton_railway_station&tbnid=4x2w9PrAmEkwYM&vet=1&docid=RaXlUObFKYdutM&w=4320&h=3240&q=ditton%20station%20buildings&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim[/url])   and                       the station I found                          here      [url]http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/ditton_junction/[/url] ([url]http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/ditton_junction/[/url])   although it was ugly and I used to live 1 mile down westwards but will not replicate all of it. Looks like the plasticard will be in use.


That station looks to be a great project, very interesting. It might not be the prettiest station ever to grace the network but it's got a great look to it. Hope you don't get called in to work again and you can have a productive couple of modeling days!
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Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2020, 07:27:19 PM
Thanks steve. Only part of it will be replicated due to space. The more Victorian era buildings of the CLC ( Cheshire Lines Committee ) and the LNWR offered more architectural interest https://images.app.goo.gl/dFGdKZw5Egs3tL2T6    which is now luxury converted apartments    and google those at warrington bank quay.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: degsy_safc on July 04, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
The inevitable ..... called in to work to lend a hand, some person was irate and after a quiet 8 am run to Northampton off london on a unit with a smelly part, and no was not going to risk my health examining issues, safely home, a nod off to sleep after a shower. 4 wooden legs and a table glued, bolted, clamped for drying. It was a table that needed mending. A flat pack piece of furniture arrived so that was assembled. So just placing my piece of wood and glueing sides and an end piece to stop trains rolling where they should not.           Should be now 3 rest days to as Derek kindly suggest play trains .

Best laid plans as they say Chris, at least youíve now got 3 days off to enjoy..

Hope things are relaxing for you..

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 04, 2020, 11:34:23 PM
Thanks derek. Hope your layout is progressing well. Testing will be carried out and at the moment just hoping to source a suitable few items to complete the scene. I have always enjoyed the sourcing and referencing of the hobby but looking at the space available to me did not want to become too serious.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on July 05, 2020, 12:02:41 AM
Hi Chris,

Just looking at your link to Ditton station, the waiting rooms & design look like the kestrel kits, identical in fact:
https://www.google.com/search?q=kestrel+waiting+room&rlz=1C1AVNE_enGB636GB638&oq=kes&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j46j0j46j69i60l3.3589j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=kestrel+waiting+room&rlz=1C1AVNE_enGB636GB638&oq=kes&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j46j0j46j69i60l3.3589j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

Look's like these have them in stock at £5.74
https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room (https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room)

Kestrel also do a modern station booking hall, not sure if that's like Ditton too...

Hope it helps with your build ;)

Cheers,
Mark
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Post by: crewearpley40 on July 05, 2020, 04:25:57 AM
Mark @1977joey (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2657) thanks for the heads up actually very similar in structure. That would save plasticard for the other projects . Appreciated.   I am looking into this https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/ (https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/)    which will complement . Then there is the small matter of .....                                                                             this                                         building                         https://images.app.goo.gl/KMsKnRvgBRV4MLs4A (https://images.app.goo.gl/KMsKnRvgBRV4MLs4A)   which will suit the structure out towards sankey, warrington which I had planned
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on July 05, 2020, 09:30:09 AM
Mark @1977joey (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2657) thanks for the heads up actually very similar in structure. That would save plasticard for the other projects . Appreciated.   I am looking into this https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/ (https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/)    which will complement . Then there is the small matter of .....                                                                             this                                         building                         https://images.app.goo.gl/KMsKnRvgBRV4MLs4A (https://images.app.goo.gl/KMsKnRvgBRV4MLs4A)   which will suit the structure out towards sankey, warrington which I had planned

No prob Chris, I thought about the Kestrel kits as soon as I saw the pictures in your link :)

Iíve used a couple of their kits in the past & theyíre pretty user friendly.

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 05, 2020, 10:33:22 AM
Looks like will be sourcing some as just found the liquid cement, but boards to be fixed first after couple of other jobs. Must admit I do like the kestrel kits range.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 05, 2020, 04:24:44 PM
So progress today..... looking back to page 12 and post #171 the warrington buildings will be created once I can safely negotiate a trip which I'm due when circumstances and life permits. I have used roughly accurate plasticard and plastic buildings to create the salt union buildings seen in # 169 on page 12 . The red star building is just drying after I reassuringly added a strengthening bit of plaslticard 40 thou with poly cement  and a stronger base ready to add tomorrow. Then will order the building suggested by mark of shrewford. Company is not answering phones.       Then I did forget its sunday.                                                                                   
                                                                                                          Sure enough I found card to construct platforms ready for this building to add to the road plus the small card multi storey car park I created. Pics to follow
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 02:51:28 PM
After reconstructing the platforms from card and ordering the kit pointed out by mark of shrewford. ....  I have recreated the TPO in the liverpool / red bank manchester plymouth so here she is. The model  is shown here https://www.hattons.co.uk/107778/graham_farish_374_902a_br_mk_i_tpo_blue_grey/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/107778/graham_farish_374_902a_br_mk_i_tpo_blue_grey/stockdetail.aspx)      and fine she is. A big thank you to alan @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) and I believe alan may have a couple for sale. I will try and sort a YouTube clip once have other things to do which need to be done
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-060720144921.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96576)
                                                                                                        And here is a clip of the TPO. I will post photos of the station building one that has arrived and been erected
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-060720145118.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96577)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 02:55:32 PM
Hopefully a more square on shot   sorry I took the shot on a phone and its turned side on.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-060720145525.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96578)
                                                                                                      Something went right  I ve re taken the shot of the station  and works and either side is the multi storey and the disused factory, although not complete, scratchbuilt from card
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-060720145911.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96579)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 04:05:10 PM
Here is a try again at my
you tube abilities . The top with a full brake and a brake second
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on July 06, 2020, 04:17:41 PM
Chris,

Thank you for your update, photoís and video.
You have been busy, is it one more or two days to go before being back at work

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: class37025 on July 06, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
thanks for the mention Chris,
yes got several more blue / grey TPOs and BGs still in the surplus pile if anyone is looking for any.

and I'm sure Chis will confirm, prices are very reasonable  >:D
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 04:24:09 PM
Chris,

Thank you for your update, photoís and video.
You have been busy, is it one more or two days to go before being back at work

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
                                                                              thanks mike a full two days more to scratchbuild   , build the kit and yes I have also ordered https://images.app.goo.gl/uc9yiSG3hmd42rni6 (https://images.app.goo.gl/uc9yiSG3hmd42rni6)  or easier here     https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge)  which will be my first foray into fine white metal and a change from card and what seems to be realistic. I can use an old plastic kit if things wrong as plan b
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 04:25:35 PM
Your welcome alan. Given the detail and the realistic look ,contact alan direct by pm for details.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: springwood on July 06, 2020, 04:54:08 PM
Wow, that train is going at quite a lick! The poor old passengers will be getting a bit dizzy.. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 06, 2020, 05:04:32 PM
It's the tpo and gangwayed brake that would store the brute trolleys. I have worked the tpo as the guard sat in the bsk. Try then working on this when hitting 75 to 90 mph
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 07, 2020, 01:40:57 PM
Still trying to master putting a youtube show virtual style as impractical to host the usual suspects.
                       sorry it's a tad shaky, phone has rang, hayfever settling in but here are the warrington coal hoppers. Class 25 substituting for the usual 2 x 20s one of which is dummy, the other on works . A quick tour round the town scene too
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
At least it is the weekend and one to enjoy. Beer at home and the other half, once shopping out the way - then its trains...... of an n gauge variety . Thanks to nick @njee20 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1147)  these arrived https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z2R8E68JN/n-scale-br-type-shunt-signals (https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z2R8E68JN/n-scale-br-type-shunt-signals)      ,a first ever use of any product. Will let you know how one gets on. I was surprised to find the dyslexic post person delivered my package to the wrong door and the chap who kindly banged on mine, I had his, but was at work. Problems sorted.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on July 10, 2020, 08:06:36 PM
Hi Chris,

Those shunt signals look the business, looks like paints out for the weekend.

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: port perran on July 10, 2020, 08:08:15 PM
Have fun with those.
Looks like a fiddly job.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 08:10:00 PM
Thanks mike. Actually the plan is to wire the fiddle yard and just test a few locos. In addition to finishing a couple of kits when they arrive and finishing platform surface on one scratchbuilt item. The shunt signals and ground frames are for another day.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 10, 2020, 08:15:38 PM
Have fun with those.
Looks like a fiddly job.
                                                                       
   martin, actually this was fiddly  .... https://northwesternmodels.co.uk/products/n-gauge/trackside-details-n-gauge/lower-quadrant-ground-signals-x5/ testing and making them stick to where I wished to place them. A dab of blue tack did the trick and then a dab of pva and ballast to disguise. Painting the nw models version needed a small very fine brush with the red and a really steady hand so that where the other half was happy,  she sews, can draw tiny and her mitts are half the size mine. Only after I realised I had been sent a pack with 2 duff ones with the paint peeling off. It was not too bad so rather than return I just asked the other half how we or reword i could restore. Simple I can paint them. Thanks.     That freed me up then to do other tasks and buy the takeaway

Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2020, 10:00:15 AM
Saturday update. Looks like https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/ (https://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/KD29-Modern-Station/) is in stock hurrah.   I did order Gaugemaster KD30 Modern Station Waiting Room Kit https://g.co/kgs/hd3ujc (https://g.co/kgs/hd3ujc)   only to find TMC website is down. Mark from shrewford posted earlier. But the friendly company are working from home and apologised the website is down. A bargain £5.74 but will let you know how we get on
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: njee20 on July 11, 2020, 11:07:10 AM
Glad the signals arrived once I finally made it to the post Chris! Makes you realise how small scale items really are! Hopefully they find a home though.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2020, 11:51:34 AM
Thanks nick. Shall be investigating these lovely items and working through them in due course with painting and positioning the signals
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 09:27:22 AM
Looks like site up and running so ive ordered https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room (https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room)   and the not listed, last remaining https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380)    plus was so surprised when I mentioned modern footbridge the kind chap had 1 left in a box damaged of https://images.app.goo.gl/6Eh6eh6GUxEHSg2YA (https://images.app.goo.gl/6Eh6eh6GUxEHSg2YA)    so after I mentioned the company here  https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge)   who don't seem to be open until late morning monday  when I will be at work  the kind chap offered me a £1  off plus the glue free if I went for postage 24 hours service. Bargain. Will let you know how I get on. Track being laid on fiddle yard albeit 6 long lengths later and pinned
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on July 12, 2020, 02:49:22 PM
Looking forward to seeing your station develop Chris :)

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 02:56:22 PM
Thanks mark. The glue arrived to my chosen pick up point shop as will be elsewhere tomorrow. Have to thank hailstone  Alex, for recommending this, but a shop was due a delivery , phoned me, after receiving a supply unexpectedly. I did manage to find suitable humbrol and revell paints for the footbridge. Least also had another bargain, the owner had a chance chat  , his uncle passed and he had 4 large points and flexitrack he never used surprisingly. A relative of the shop owner was keeping the layout plus poole era locos, stock so he offered them for cheap and a donation to the church restoration fund. Happy man. Will update once kits arrived and I have built
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on July 12, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Chris
You are going to be very busy with all these kits you keep buying. You are getting as bad as me. Enjoy building them.

Stay safe

Mike H   8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 12, 2020, 04:48:36 PM
Thanks mike. Have to have something to do when off work, when wishing to have time to myself and engage in creativity
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 02:13:43 PM
It's been a long morning already. The post arrived with https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room (https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room)   and the result with my revell contacts hey an hour later assembled.  This arrived from the same source today , I received a call https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380)  and this had been found and posted at a bargain price. So will have to wait until I can find a slot. Not bad for my first venture here. Just remembered plenty of fresh air, windows open, fan on, as I live in a flat. Easy to make. Cut off the sprues.                                   
                                                                                         
Then slowly assemble glueing with a blob of blue tac to stop sides folding in as was thin plastic and spread with a cocktail stick glue. The nozzle was supplied fine enough to get a fine even line. drying time was quick. Once dry blue tac out. Apply to layout with superglue. I blended some scatter minutes ago after just adding a strip of card for a roof and painting thinly grey paint from humbrol. I wanted the look of icy cold wintery condensation on my building windows so another cocktail stick to dab off excess drop of glue. And a little dab of clear glaze.  Just waiting
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 02:26:13 PM
It's been a long morning already. The post arrived with [url]https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room[/url] ([url]https://www.themodelcentre.com/gmkd30-gaugemaster-n-gauge-kestrel-kd30-modern-station-waiting-room[/url])   and the result with my revell contacta glue, hey an hour later assembled.  This arrived from the same source today , I received a call [url]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380[/url] ([url]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kestrel-N-Gauge-Railway-Buildings-Layout-Plastic-Kit-No-GMKD29-Modern-Station-/131588355380[/url])  and this had been found and posted at a bargain price. So will have to wait until I can find a slot. Not bad for my first venture here. Just remembered plenty of fresh air, windows open, fan on, as I live in a flat. Easy to make. Cut off the sprues.                                   
                                                                                         
Then slowly assemble glueing with a blob of blue tac to stop sides folding in as was thin plastic and spread with a cocktail stick glue. The nozzle was supplied fine enough to get a fine even line. drying time was quick. Once dry blue tac out. Apply to layout with superglue. I blended some scatter minutes ago after just adding a strip of card for a roof and painting thinly grey paint from humbrol. I wanted the look of icy cold wintery condensation on my building windows so another cocktail stick to dab off excess drop of glue. And a little dab of clear glaze.  Just waiting
for this to arrive https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge)     and the red star parcel office   http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/51376/42-191-Graham-Farish-Scenecraft-Red-Star-Parcels-Office (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/51376/42-191-Graham-Farish-Scenecraft-Red-Star-Parcels-Office)   is being planted tonight
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-140720142602.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96907)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 14, 2020, 02:29:21 PM
A couple of other angles
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-140720142758.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96908)    and here 

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/96/3894-140720142911.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=96909)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 16, 2020, 12:32:55 AM
I will update at the weekend as will have the kd30 kit but altered slightly to what I wish to achieve, the red star parcels and the footbridge kit finalised. Work has been in the way, what with empty stock moves, putting screens up ready for the first charter which can been found on the railtours pages in the real railway threads. So the weekend will be kitbashing
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 05:29:53 PM
So this arrived https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/lytchett-manor/Double-track-Footbridge-N-gauge)  and I have screen shot the instructions. The mention of epoxy glue was not good. I carefully cleaned the castings wearing disposable gloves, the epoxy glue turned out well for the stairwell pieces but not the upright pliers once the floor span had been upturned . Ouch. My new soldering iron costing £8 arrived. So its slowly resting waiting the suggested epoxy glued smoke detectors and the pžers were soldered.  What I did notice the footbridge maybe 3 to 4 cms short. A quick call confirmed this. The owner, paul has realised he sent a single not double. All not lost he is kindly making up a https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/193507188228?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=193507188228&targetid=908661474856&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007177&poi=&campaignid=10204056441&mkgroupid=107296324212&rlsatarget=pla-908661474856&abcId=1145987&merchantid=6995734&gclid=Cj0KCQjwu8r4BRCzARIsAA21i_C8RfevZMkoPhLkaCXYfxGlpHlt4edrfaNsmhhz01f_PaeAcmTYgHYaAi5gEALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/193507188228?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=193507188228&targetid=908661474856&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007177&poi=&campaignid=10204056441&mkgroupid=107296324212&rlsatarget=pla-908661474856&abcId=1145987&merchantid=6995734&gclid=Cj0KCQjwu8r4BRCzARIsAA21i_C8RfevZMkoPhLkaCXYfxGlpHlt4edrfaNsmhhz01f_PaeAcmTYgHYaAi5gEALw_wcB) kit he had from ebay he has free. So not all lost . The floorspan was bent so have had to pliers and hands reshape it plus a heavy weight. Will leave overnight.       Then the red star parcel unit is having 30 thou plasticard base and painted earth brown.   Finally https://www.petersspares.com/kestrel-kd29-modern-station-plastic-kit-n-gauge.ir (https://www.petersspares.com/kestrel-kd29-modern-station-plastic-kit-n-gauge.ir) arrived with pieces missing and snapped so all Is not lost will kit bash add plasticard and the roof bit in the bin. The sides will be two single waiting rooms bus shelters
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-180720172847.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97122) and the small matter of   

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-180720172941.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97124)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 05:32:45 PM
Fiddleyard will be tested once extra wires ordered from ken at john dutfield plus a reasonable rake of secondhand items of stock. Now 6 x 2 enough to handle class 08, 20 x 2, 31, 37 , 40, 47, trix 81, 86s, 87 and 6 coaches plus wagons I have collected down the years
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: degsy_safc on July 18, 2020, 08:53:15 PM
Quite a bit going on there today for you Chris.

Hopefully you get all the stuff sorted with the missing / wrong items quickly to allow you to get everything finished.

Cheers Derek
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 08:57:08 PM
Thanks derek. Been adding solder to the footbridge and prepping plasticard reinforcements. I'm kitbashing as it's short so strong card and because its low I'm adding extra security eg higher sides glued around the steps. The red star office is ready for planting tomorrow. The replacement footbridge will be added as when it arrives. The bus shelters are drying.     Easy bit next weekend playing trains
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Foxhound on July 18, 2020, 11:18:25 PM
Well, what a journey that's been! Just read the whole thread and got to say hats off to you buddy. Looks great!
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 18, 2020, 11:26:27 PM
Thanks rob. Hardest part crawling underneath electrics and the footbridge. Easiest bit, learning,  sharing experiences with friends on the forum and learning history spent during my  years in the area
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: LASteve on July 19, 2020, 02:31:37 AM
Great progress, Chris, you should be very satisfied with where you're at. Nothing ever goes as planned - part of the fun is not to get frustrated with problems but enjoy the challenge. Of course, it's nice when something goes exactly as scripted, but I think one of the traits of enjoying this hobby is pivoting and finding a new solution to an issue. You're spot on with the help from the forum - I'd have quit years ago if it wasn't for the encouragement of the people here. Now I never expect everything to go right first time, and I'm delighted on the rare occasions that it does!

Looking forward to more phots as the Red Star office and the footbridge are planted or fixed, and the new station module takes shape.  :beers:
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 04:31:20 AM
Thanks steve. Agree nothing goes to script. I woke up thirsty so I was thinking @LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) yes I'm satisfied with the first attempt. Photos are on hold as the plan is to reinforce at some point with more realistic higher sides and step handrails from 0.2mm thin solder wire and weather this.                                                             The red star parcels is more straightforward.                     
                                                                                                   I was more surprised to be receiving ken 'a email and snapped up the freightliner stock bargains which I have waited a year for. So will finally be able to run a rake.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 09:36:18 AM
The beautiful quiet sunday morning. The bus shelter converted from the kestrel broken kit is drying. The footbridge sides are in. My concern it needs 3 to 4  cms  higher on the pillars to allow safe passing of trains. I raised the pillars by making a block of wood painted grey and filling and testing then once the footbridge is in situ, it's just sat quietly waiting the other concern lack of suitable sides. Remedy. 60 thou plasticard superglue on cut to shape. Painted grey.                                                                                           Old card was used and painted grey and black with windows but and acetate sheet off bh enterprises ray gave inserted. Waste not want not ... presto,  door cut, office block and bike sheds .                                                                                       
                                                                                                      Then time to wipe and gently hoover and all trains safely pass . Phew. Now can play , I mean operate trains
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on July 19, 2020, 10:46:42 AM
Chris

Enjoy playing trains, by the sounds of it, you have had a busy weekend modelling, so one needs to enjoy the fruits of their labour.

Looking forward to photoís of the work done

Stay safe

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 10:57:41 AM
Here you go mike and others
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-190720105651.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97142)
And       
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-190720105727.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97143)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 19, 2020, 11:00:46 AM
One more for now.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-190720105936.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97144)
                The hardest bit when half the parts were not there and I learned patience but hey ho I'm sticking to plastic and card
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 06:27:18 PM
Phew. It's been a long day fitting perspex screens to vintage coaches and opening doors so the cleaning team can spray and the stock prepared  , photos and vids on railtours and specials pages thread. Finally station buildings, footbridge constructed, red star parcels in place
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-210720182625.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97205) showing the latter   plus     

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-210720182709.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97206)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 21, 2020, 06:31:25 PM
A couple of other views
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-210720182937.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97207)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-210720183017.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97208)                          being honest low metal solder plus plasticard sides glued with two part epoxy did the trick
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2020, 07:11:48 PM
Saturdays in the rain. 2 days off after trips to new street ( train manager, failed at hanslope, north of wolverton, and manchester, problems with central door locking at london, then a new set of stock all good until trespassers narrowly missed , ouch and speed restrictions north of Stafford.  So home to play trains this time on ditton after a welcome bath and hot coffee . Just been twiddling with the freightliners bogies adjusting pieces so they love going round radius 4 curves and do not lock on an angle. Then will have an hour running some. Catch up soon
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on July 25, 2020, 07:43:18 PM
Chris

You have had a entertaining day in the rain, itís been lovely and warm up here, with not a drop of rain in sight.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on July 25, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
The woes of a real realway are so much more problematic than the workings of an ideal model railway.  I do like real railways but I am reminded of a tortuous journey form Milton Keynes to Plymouth following the Hatfield accident.  It took forever!
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2020, 07:51:45 PM
Thanks mike and laurence. I was working around the Hatfield incident and what should have been a 5 hour 45 shift turned into 11 and a half, the next day the crew I was with were sent to Glasgow that shift took 14 and we needed 2 Guards Safety Critical . Hey ho. Onto an hours modelling then rest before I operate tomorrow on ditton and maybe another little card kit unsure which yet
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: impinabox on July 25, 2020, 09:28:33 PM
 Wow that sounds like a serious shift.   Makes ballasting sound like child's play... which I guess it is if you count second childhood!    :)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 25, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
We seriously work odd shifts and hard. However, the next week I'm working off home with work that needs attention. So does ditton, with card kits, the fiddle yard, however tomorrow will be running a few trains and testing the fiddle yard
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on July 26, 2020, 06:36:58 AM
Thanks mike and laurence. I was working around the Hatfield incident and what should have been a 5 hour 45 shift turned into 11 and a half, the next day the crew I was with were sent to Glasgow that shift took 14 and we needed 2 Guards Safety Critical . Hey ho. Onto an hours modelling then rest before I operate tomorrow on ditton and maybe another little card kit unsure which yet
I caught the Edinburgh to Plymouth Train at New Street but, by the time we reached Exeter, it had to turn round or it would never have made it back to Edinburgh.  I had to wait at St David's for the next train from Paddington.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 26, 2020, 06:43:53 AM
Sounds like a long day. Just up with a coffee and sunrise viewing the sun glinting on the lounge and the layout.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-260720064218.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97411)   08489 shunts the tanks whilst 25221 rearranges freightliner stock ready for monday before moving light engine to collect coaches
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 27, 2020, 06:19:56 PM
Monday today, working from home on conference calls , discussing matters via emails and guess what ? Been playing, operating for an hour . I've noticed with a few oil tanks, chemical tanks and some engineers wagons the clatter over points. I'm not dcc and viewing 
  plus a 12 year span at allerton
in 1988 and this in 2000 here
shows how little has changed structure wise except the trains.    I have not oiled any wagon wheels but left them and spent time with a rag and via track cleaning
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-270720181944.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97487)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 27, 2020, 06:35:05 PM
I met Brian back in 1995. He runs rail photography from cardiff but was in warrington, liverpool and asked if I as a stranger knew the vantage points with the usual spots . 25221 on ditton is seen ambling round with a couple of peco nr12 railfreight Vans and 2 oil tanks, 2 chemical  tanks. The leading tank is a peco type C, then 15ft esso tta, a peco knr50 15ft tank built on a 15ft chassis with extra weight, and before the vba and vbb the 2 Van's is the peco type c cibageigy tank
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 28, 2020, 05:41:56 PM
Another day home working on conference calls  so 330pm finish and time to junior hacksaw down a tree made of twigs and thick wooden branch to make more scale and realistic. I also spent a half hour preparing brown shades of acrylic to work in the disused canal before brown scatter left over was sprinkled on the towpath.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                             Track cleaning was undertaken and I then finished adding two sidings to the fiddle yard for surplus wagons plus the freightliner stock with the FGA on the rear,  FFA and  a single 30ft container wagon to be stored pending couplings to be worked on. Realising I need to add 2 dapol extra long arms as to avoid buffers locking.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-280720174038.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97526)  and           

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/97/3894-280720174142.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=97527)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 28, 2020, 05:49:31 PM
The freightliners, coal hoppers and chemical tanks for garston container depot, warrington arpley and runcorn can be respectively held awaiting 47436 which is on it's way from crewe, 31464 with a freshly painted converted LPG BOC tank  which is an old lima wagon with a red stripe and is drying . Plus 20073 and 20082 which 073 being the dummy is in the wheel cleaning cradle
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on July 31, 2020, 12:27:48 PM
Almost the weekend. 25221 suffered a split bogie . Off to crewe ? Not exactly. I found the receipt, warranty and the instructions. Farish don't seem to like answer technical calls and stated no decoder should be in the loco. It lit up and I'm on analogue. Kernow, who sold me do not have another in stock at st blazey or Laira, so option return for spares which will be sent to bar well and Hinckley. Nightmare. Or refund. So a call to bob at https://www.farishnspares.co.uk/notice.html (https://www.farishnspares.co.uk/notice.html)  who could not have been helpful. Wayne at kernow could not help nor Gregg so farish neither   , bob said it was a split gear. A call to https://www.lprails.co.uk/ (https://www.lprails.co.uk/) and the ever helpful lee, he will replace with a blanking plate hor no cost. He unlike farish but like bob confirmed warranty, and for £20 would happily fix the split gear, conduct a test and 25221 will be back in 7days. Wow. Lee. Star. At least I still have 25177, 25080 , 25259  still operational
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 05, 2020, 07:59:05 PM
It's been a week. Lee has kindly sent my 25221 to Crewe ( well Ditton ) and the mad house. After a troubled week with a  pillock crashing every computer and infesting with stuff on  computers I would hate to know, the boss and myself losing tempers, raising disciplinary and Railnews plus West coast railways messing dates up. So 25221 is back.... a phosphorus bronze contact  , plus kernow had not aligned a bogie tower properly. Split gear changed so ..... happy and Thank You Lee at https://www.lprails.co.uk/ (https://www.lprails.co.uk/)    so will update as have little modelling time until after 3pm.saturday.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 09, 2020, 09:20:02 AM
Welcome back Chris sounds like a nightmare week. Glad to hear the loco is running well.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 09, 2020, 09:45:12 AM
25221 is running thanks to lee. And the warranty is in date
 Onwards upwards. Not much to report as weekend working and checking morley controllers out. May need 10 ft extra wire plus. Fiddle yard will not be ballasted
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 14, 2020, 07:14:56 PM
It's been a long week, what with events around the world, heat , rain and sitting at home adding 2 extra tracks, updating the scenery . I took a corner scene after I was not happy when I found I was not happy with it so adding a third line and a signal ( photos in due course )) for a freightliner train to be stored and run through two new points. Lee palmer fixed myv25221 and despite a 60 hour week plus 8 tomorrow to do. I'm taking sunday monday 2 days off to operate ditton.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 16, 2020, 06:45:32 PM
So here is sunday and a view down the line from the manchester direction, plus my representation  of the st Helen's branch which is to the left. Plus views from The works end.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-160820184521.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98228)   

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-160820184713.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98229)
  And ....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-160820184753.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98230)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 16, 2020, 06:57:19 PM
The next job once is to repair a freightliner vehicle. Thanks to Dr Al who is sending the correct wheel frame bogie and in will a new wheel set plus coupler replacing a badly completed kit by the person in purchased from and the farish pin replacing a badly inserted screw so a tiny hole was drilled in today and the frets glued on. So freightliners now ready bar one wagon. I did add an extra speedlink stock siding as seen plus added extra curves and a lovely freely moving blade onto an old point thanks to alex h for reminding me how to slot in the tie bar and then last job...... the corner with a piece of damaged wood I've noticed. I did purchase it cheap and the delivery man dropped the board. So sawed off a corner. I did not notice during scenics work but replaced my hill which also my fault, was cracking and after sanding and cutting a contour created a curve and extended a river scene with brown and green and working inwards black base then brown. Tomorrow a little varnishing then weeds, rocks plus maybe a towpath and work on the weir
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 19, 2020, 11:45:14 AM
Due to weekend working, and 2 long days already I'm taking time off. Thanks to Dr Al, the Works have repaired a bogie and the kit one replaced with standard pins plus farish part. Will be tackling scenics when I get a chance
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-190820114459.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98383)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 19, 2020, 01:17:47 PM
Can be therapeutic adding layers of brown, green and black paint and small stones to form a river scene

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-190820131653.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98388)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 19, 2020, 06:38:47 PM
Still paint drying so onto sorting another freightliner which is delivering urgent spares plus one is on a wheel trolley having discovered problems with a wheel set. In reality a rummage through the spares boc and two couplings which are long couplings plus wheels and the clip is not sitting so fab of superglue. I noticed on these second hand stock the previous owner had forced two containers breaking the lugs holding the containers so superglue ready
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-190820183808.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98394)   The scenics shot is whilst I'm waiting for paint to dry and the stones effect, in reality I found in wilkinson shop that known cheap odds and ends store

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-190820184126.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98395)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 03:37:41 PM
So the freightliner set is running albeit slowly and gently. I'm also in due course adding an extra track or two But researching  https://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/ncat.html (https://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/ncat.html) and Dapol NCAT1 Overhead Catenary Masts. I'm planning this as have classes 81, 86 and 87 now wish An 85 and a 310 or AM10 were available as the 350 is out of my time period. It's been a hectic week mending stock, still want to sell a foster yeoman hopper which is in good condition. Am working the weekend so overtime and fiddle yard money. I'm also looking at upgrading controls to  http://morleycontrollers.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?search=yes&bc=no&catalogid=41 (http://morleycontrollers.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?search=yes&bc=no&catalogid=41)  Yes a morley
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on August 21, 2020, 04:20:23 PM
Chris
You are going to be busy if you start adding OHLE.
Quite right if you are doing overtime, spend the money on yourself.

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 04:26:51 PM
It's only dummy wires and masts I'm going to use.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 21, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2020, 08:06:49 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury

Itís all done with wires  :D

Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 08:08:18 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury
? ? Bob .... the photos just wont stay up right. The way i posted if that is what your asking.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 08:09:51 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury

Itís all done with wires  :D
yes I'm planning to have dummy catenary for a section of the layout and OHLE if that's what your asking. To represent the electrified section
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: port perran on August 21, 2020, 08:10:46 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury
? ? Bob .... the photos just wont stay up right. The way i posted if that is what your asking.
I think you just need to spin them round on your phone, if thatís what you are using, prior to posting.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
Tried that martin so a view of speedlink and railfreight Van's waiting the class 47
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-210820201437.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98483) and

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-210820201521.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98484)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
Still not great but the station scene with freshly painted road and second coat of paint on the footbridge
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-210820201826.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98485)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Train Waiting on August 21, 2020, 09:15:10 PM
Here it is:


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/6222-210820211440.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98486)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: LASteve on August 21, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury

Itís all done with wires  :D
Just two, if you have DCC and believe the sales pitch. :)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 21, 2020, 10:42:24 PM
Hi Chris I didnt realise that N Gauge had Magnadesion ,how on earth does your stock stay on the track and climb virtically .
Bob Tidbury

Itís all done with wires  :D
Just two, if you have DCC and believe the sales pitch. :)
sorry what's the point about magnadesion ? And no dcc or  vertical climbing
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: chrism on August 22, 2020, 06:36:16 AM
sorry what's the point about magnadesion ? And no dcc or  vertical climbing

I think Bob was referring to the fact that many of your pics display on their sides.

Magnadhesion was something that Hornby did on their OO stuff back in the 70s - don't know about any later.
As far as I can recall it used a large magnet in the XO4 motor which, as well as working the motor, would also magnetise the chassis thereby pulling the loco down onto the track more than just its weight. It only worked, obviously,with their plated steel track.
It was also very handy (??) for finding all the dropped track pins.

Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on August 22, 2020, 06:38:55 AM
I find downloading pictures onto my computer and then using a picture editor (I use Photpad) allows me to line everything up prior to uploading to the gallery.   I know there's a rotation tool in the gallery, but I haven't been able to get to grips with it.  I also use Photopad to reduce the file size to about 500kB to speed thing up and save space in the gallery.  If I am using focus stacking then I use Afinity as the editor.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 06:45:00 AM
Thanks chris and laurence. After a near 90 hour week and still 3 days to go just not awake..... I took the shots and intended them to be the right way up but somehow they are loading and showing on a different angle. And i work off a phone.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-220820064340.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98497) and

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-220820064447.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98499)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 06:49:03 AM
Still no joy. Thanks chris and Laurence for explaining. Views from sutton oak where the warrington and widnes lines converge and at ditton junction where tanhouse line joins the wcml
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-220820064818.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98500)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-220820064851.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98501) Now I see what Bob means. I'm at work all day all weekend
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Train Waiting on August 22, 2020, 08:10:03 AM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/6222-220820080841.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98502)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/6222-220820080918.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98503)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 08:21:49 AM

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/6222-220820080841.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98502)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/6222-220820080918.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98503)
Thanks would be nice to know how one managed this after approaching first. The phone takes shots and the right way up but still have not the time to upright or know how
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Chris, it can be done reasonably easily within the forum gallery.
You just need to edit the file within the gallery.
Iím going out in a mo but Iíll send you a PM later showing how to do it if no one else does it in the meantime.

Regards
Martin
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 08:34:18 AM
Thanks martin. Probably @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) will not have the time all weekend due to work to read messages. Dont mean to sound rude but work is priority. Im having time off next week to myself to sort photos, research the ohle wiring. I'm modelling with the need to add 16 masts plus a wire from thin piano wire but work commitments are in my way. At work now with a skeleton crew. With the gallery I'm not technical. Thanks to you @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) and @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) John. The wcml section is connected by the large radius curves so I can run my AC electrics pan up but off the DC power. Appreciated
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 22, 2020, 02:23:09 PM
 :sorrysign:  Chris I was only joking at least you can put your photos on here ,despite several members and numerous attempts
I still cant master the technical things ,though I can put photos on the Forum Facebook page .
Its just me being thick .
I would like to put an upgraded Video on Utube to cover all the modified scenery ,but I will have to wait untill all the virus has died own and you and  Daren come over again and we can have a teally good session .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 02:39:00 PM
Sadly maybe a long wait. Ask mods for help @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) . Just going to do a few tests when I get a chance on the fiddleyard
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 22, 2020, 08:01:27 PM
Thanks to those offering help. I had been asked to attend a morning work at 0610 on the back of an 80 hour week plus a late call, an incompetent shunter at work, a few exchanged words. So trying to prep for tomorrow and stick moves . Hope via my m and s store, chinese takeaway and a couple of hours fiddling around with ditton. The downside yard and 4th line round the corner will be added and pinned in on my 3 days off next week. Still hoping for 2 days away off work with covid, ex colleagues who we said bye one a funeral, 2 were the boss ' s decision. Phew. Heres a photo of the station and where the reception yard will link the mainline. Been marking holes as ready to order catenary masts in 2 weeks or so
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-220820195821.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98537)  I will say saturday mornings before 10 am are the worst time to respond at the minute and fises literally are the life here. Just had the fuse box behave weird . Sorted . Plus a shower I've just had and the (censored word l) person calling round knowing it's my night off. Ditton 's manager and my boss plus real boss at work are not happy
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 28, 2020, 08:34:46 PM
It's been 6 long days at ditton and I have not been running the line much , it's been a case of work and more troubles with staffing. So work phone firmly off until Wednesday I can look at mast jigs. Simply a piece of plastic with a rut which sits over the tracks and has two tiny holes to allow 2 to 3 mm drill piece and me to mark off and I can gauge and allow clearance for stock to safely pass without fouling catenary . I went to the local shop 6 miles away to find the owner has not ordered catenary for a year and has no n gauge though to make my trip worth it a bag of joiners and flock were brought.                                                                                             
                                                                                  I'm considering plan b. Restriction arms need to longer on straights, shorter on curves, and spaced alternatively as to create give and an even run across zig zag. Plus have to consider wiring across points plus soldering. The other factor is the masts have a long threaded piece which require a washer and wingnut to secure.                      So 5 different wire lengths with again shorter on curves and crossovers , longer on straights. Dapol NCat 1 is stocked by Dutfield so looks like Ken is in for an order.                                           
                                                                                         I  am looking at N brass locos 25506 and 25521 packs . More later when I have done more research. I'm also working on my Royal Mail depot a scratch reinforced roof added onto a secondhand BHE item Martin and Ray did not want so I've grabbed that bargain and found the roof is not sturdy and added card from an art stationers shop. That's the bit in gluing tomorrow. After shopping. And weathering and adding details, then i do have Postal Vans I'm purchasing off a member . Plus on the loco front my Poole era farish 20 is slowing up still runs but another purchase will be number 4 x class 20 as have 3 operational and 1 dead . Plus has and hea wagons I fondly remember in my young days spent at Arpley
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Nbodger on August 28, 2020, 08:51:03 PM
Chris

You are going to be busy and adding to the swear box when you start on the OHLE. Agree turn your work phone off when at home, stops many interruptions.

Stay safe and enjoy

Mike H  8)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 28, 2020, 08:58:43 PM
Mike to be honest. The junction where the manchester route diverged towards warrington is the easy bit. I have not the space for the creation of halewood car and garston freightliner so in compromise the hardest bit here will be the wires themselves and these will be dummy so power comes from the controller
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: 1977joey on August 29, 2020, 01:54:38 AM
Hi Chris,

Re: Your OHLE, in N, you could always get away with adding just the masts & Gantry's without having to actually add wires to them. Dave at Dean Park on youtube has done this in OO gauge & it still looks effective without the wires in that scale.

In N gauge, I think that would do the job :) check out this picture of a layout with this idea https://www.magzter.com/article/Automotive/Rail-Express/Painting-N-gauge-models-Centro-livery (https://www.magzter.com/article/Automotive/Rail-Express/Painting-N-gauge-models-Centro-livery)

up to you though what you prefer for yourself..

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 29, 2020, 04:21:14 AM
Thanks mark. I still plan to add the wires but that is a way off yet. I never liked centro livery and catenary masts without wires is strange to me. Look forward to more on shrewford
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 29, 2020, 05:02:27 PM
The parcels mail depot is nearly there. A trek into town on a rare few days off and the artist shop I use was closed. Needed some mounting card . The photographic shop is closed down. So having to rummage around. After shopping time to head home
 I have been crawling around fiddling with wires after finding a fault with wiring. Oh @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) where did you obtain your wire from please as seriously could do with a 5 to 8 metres soon. I drilled a few holes for masts and where I may have to rewire a fishplate or two on and resolder. Not great with electrics so gave up. Stiff on the floor with muscles playing up. So sat bolt upright removing a scenic section was easy. I noticed a warp in the 4th board. I broke that up but before I did kept the scenic stuff with Henry hoover in action and the dust pan plus the next stage the fiddle yard.                                           I noticed wires came loose so running locos and soldering wires today. Parcels centre tomorrow
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-290820170142.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98759)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-290820170216.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98760)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 29, 2020, 05:08:00 PM
This is the first shed that martin sold me planted at the works. Photo 1. The second is the replica minus the roof ad inserting and gluing 40 thou plasticard on the roof ends and stiff card scale base . I show an old plastic kit I found at stevenage show. Going back on the electrics I used my last leads to solder on as i have also re wired a signal and really had to attach and stick hard the banana plug in the side of the control panel well a H & M and the inspection showed loose wires so I've pulled the two boards apart. I resited the controller and undid choc blocks then rewired as the other half was out , then back aching re joined the boards, aligning the dowels. Then need to gain more wire, resolder them and drill more holes
 I discovered a broke a drill piece. Don't ask. Cleaned up. In the thoughts as aching and the back plate I have in my back is starting to ache.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-290820171607.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98761)   

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-290820171651.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98762)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 29, 2020, 05:39:16 PM
Hi Chris
Out tonight - so canít ring - but here are a few websites you can try:
https://www.rapidonline.com/ (https://www.rapidonline.com/)
And
https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/ (https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/)
On this one search for ďconnecting wire 7/0.2mmĒ for thin stranded - say for track feeds-  and ďconnecting wire 16/0.2mmĒ for the thicker stuff - say to connect chocolate block junction boxes to your controller.
Prices look good - 10m for less than £2 in a variety of colours
See for example:
https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/products/flexible-connecting-wire-16-0.2mm/ (https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/products/flexible-connecting-wire-16-0.2mm/)
Take care
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 29, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
Thanks. May try there @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) but this 7/0.2mm thin stranded I will not need 7 rolls. Just need advice please asap as 2 wires are not long enough and my wiring skills are awful. Thanks covid. Ugh. Just need to solder two wires to gain extra length to reach the track by 10 to 15 cms plus what bit I need to undo a screw in a chock block . Thinking of having a wire direct through a hole or two and starting afresh with two new wires through a hole and directly onto 2 tags wherever you brought those on the back of the controller. Thanks will check that site and less shattered
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 29, 2020, 06:54:40 PM
You can buy a 10m length (Single roll)  to suit what you need for less than £2. Replace the wires with longer ones. That should do it.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 29, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
You can buy a 10m length (Single roll)  to suit what you need for less than £2. Replace the wires with longer ones. That should do it.
thanks that's next weekends plan. Another Saturday to rest. All working good here bar the 2 tags required darren and yes I ve just run 25221 round. Meal time soon
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 30, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Another sore morning on the back and  @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) thanks will be ordering wires and fishplates then feeding wires so can replace and have the down slow line wired in a while. Electrics are not my strong point. Scenics update to follow
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: mika on August 30, 2020, 02:00:25 PM
Fishplates and wires? Seems we're waiting for the same things :D
Hope your back gets better soon.

Enjoy your bank holiday!

Best,
Michael
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 30, 2020, 02:06:04 PM
Michael thanks fishplates with wires soldered on.   @mika (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2874) , I ve had the same problem since was 4, a bodged op meant I have a plate in my lower back. So track, pins, fishplates ( yes more ) now ordered plus wires will be ordered Tuesday when modelling electronics opens. Then onto what bank holiday brings, the base for the postal depot, two other scratchbuilt card buildings will have doors , windows added once I'm in the mood to cut out and then work on that. Just low relief warehouses
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: mika on August 30, 2020, 04:10:43 PM
Sounds like you have a lot to do, Chris.
Looking forward to seeing those buildings.

Best,
Michael
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 30, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
Sounds like you have a lot to do, Chris.
Looking forward to seeing those buildings.

Best,
Michael
please see # post 321 michael. Will @mika (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2874)  The replica @mika (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2874) of this shed is exactly the same plus other works shed items I've added 40 though plasticard to the roof structure
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-300820192302.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98786)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 30, 2020, 07:24:35 PM
Wooden batons and card kits http://freestonemodel.co.uk/ (http://freestonemodel.co.uk/) as used
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-300820192556.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98787) and here

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-300820192709.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98788)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 31, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
Thanks @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745)  will be on the case of https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/productsearch/?query=Connecting+wire+7%2F0.2mm+wire&submit=Search (https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/productsearch/?query=Connecting+wire+7%2F0.2mm+wire&submit=Search) when time permits. Back aches so not in the mood to be crawling underneath so bank holiday monday, rudely interrupted by the addict next door. Ugh. Roll out of bed. Coffee. Then walk with the other half and cat. More coffee. And home ... 
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-310820183042.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98843)       Add the walls in the fiddle yard .                                         This was achieved by an old baton or two to stop trains rolling off. Add old card plus brown paper. Then some brickpapers will be added. I rummaged into my spares box and what did I order on  https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/scratch-build/building-paper-card-sheets/Self-Adhesive%20Building%20Papers (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/scratch-build/building-paper-card-sheets/Self-Adhesive%20Building%20Papers) in may ? Yes the will be added tomorrow

Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 31, 2020, 06:38:51 PM
A few overshots of life here
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-310820183616.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98844) and

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-310820183658.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98845) Two more     

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-310820183747.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98846) and

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/98/3894-310820183838.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=98847)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 04, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
5 days have passed. The locos are running okay but tonight I've had to fault find why 08489 is having a rough ride and yes, looking ever increasingly my wiring and @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) it's becoming my 3rd pet hate. Phoning https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/productsearch/?query=Connecting+wire+7%2F0.2mm+wire&submit=Search (https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk/productsearch/?query=Connecting+wire+7%2F0.2mm+wire&submit=Search) to order new wires and adding new fishplates when they arrive. One wire burned out do not ask why. I'm waiting for Morley's controllers to begin stock so that is overtime money spent.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 05, 2020, 09:43:05 AM
Saturday morning pet hate. Looks like https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk (https://www.modellingelectronics.co.uk) cannot help. They have changed their business hours and were politely putting it not helpful . I ordered items from ken at john dutfield who could not have been more helpful plus he has 15 metres of wiring available and can add onto my needs on a saturday morning wires. Happy @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) bunny so Wednesday should be soldering to fishplates and rewiring. More later on the scenics
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 05, 2020, 10:07:47 AM
I have an order in with modelling electronics so letís see how they do! I spoke to them Friday and all seemed fine. Happy to solder the fish plates when you get the wire. Speak later when free.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 05, 2020, 10:15:15 AM
No it's just the way in which they prefer online and i prefer to speak about my needs. I'm no electrical expert or good at that aspect. Ken has wires cheaper and I'm also working on the real rails 3 weekends due on the trot. It's generally safer to say me and wiring is a no go. I am constructing buildings and sorting out my freight rakes in the fiddle yard plus appropriate locos. The shots include where the Class 08 is where both tracks will require wiring up again and new fishplates. The fiddle yard will hold my Mk2 / Mk1 WCML Stock, the HAA hoppers, Freightliner spare flats, Poole era farish DMU plus locos
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/99/3894-050920102058.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=99070) and

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/99/3894-050920102137.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=99071)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 05, 2020, 10:28:19 AM
Oops people calling . And trying to sort photos
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/99/3894-050920102327.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=99072) Thus far the fiddle yard with a rake of oil, chemical tanks and haa hoppers as I remember them on the fiddlers ferry back in the day or around arpley , my favourite haunt being b and q car park on warrington Wilson Patten street or at the south end of bank quay watching mgr coal trains  here http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/GarstonWarringtonRailwayTheLowLevel (http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/GarstonWarringtonRailwayTheLowLevel)   and https://www.flickr.com/photos/terry47401/11401541704/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/terry47401/11401541704/)   and here    https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_hoare/6801209186/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_hoare/6801209186/)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 05, 2020, 04:18:54 PM
Looks like after a further inspection I saw loose wiring and some wires were found so where the 08 is have slotted in and connected onto a controller and successfully wired up temporary least I can run trains. Covid, a colleague who cannot shunt properly on the railways where am based and an idiot being rude when I placed or attempted to did not help.                                                                              All  in a days work here. Thinking of adding brickpaper I received onto buildings but will be drawing doors and couple of windows once I have decided what to do. Cuppa here
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: gavin_t on September 06, 2020, 07:22:00 PM
Lots of updates since I last checked in, good progress!

Didn't realise how big the layout was until I saw those over shots :)
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 06, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
Thanks @gavin_t (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7707)  I have broken the layout into sections which can be taken apart for maintenance and especially earlier in the year when the darn ( censored word ) builders trod on part of the layout. It also helps with wiring , fault finding, electrics and ease when carrying . Design was always that way
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 08, 2020, 07:05:42 PM
First the bad news modelling electronics could not help. A call to ken at john dutfield proved to be a help.  10 feet of wire sold. Now. N gauge rail joiners turned up plus lengths I needed to fit the 7 road fiddle yard. Ok, next ken accidentally sent OO gauge fishplates. In the post and he kindly has asked and arranged his assistant, not heather his wife to dig out some prewired fishplates. Hurrah. @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) tags where do I buy from.please ?   Going to spend tomorrow testing, operating stock and soldering
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: gavin_t on September 09, 2020, 07:52:10 PM
First the bad news modelling electronics could not help. A call to ken at john dutfield proved to be a help.  10 feet of wire sold. Now. N gauge rail joiners turned up plus lengths I needed to fit the 7 road fiddle yard. Ok, next ken accidentally sent OO gauge fishplates. In the post and he kindly has asked and arranged his assistant, not heather his wife to dig out some prewired fishplates. Hurrah. @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) tags where do I buy from.please ?   Going to spend tomorrow testing, operating stock and soldering


I got my Peco pre-wired fishplates from Ken. So much easier and reliable. I made a mess trying to solder my own  :doh:
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 09, 2020, 08:01:02 PM
Gavin @gavin_t (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7707)  hope they were a decent length wire as gaugemasters were only 2 m whilst ken kindly sold a decent 10 m length. I also found soldering wire ontocaignals not easy. Onto today, not much done as working from home on conference calls though I have managed to test the fiddle yard and more needs to be done
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: gavin_t on September 09, 2020, 08:07:35 PM
I found them good, plenty strong enough join onto the fishplate to allow you the maneuver them about with out detaching.
Also ample wire to thread through my baseboard and attach onto my bus loop.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 09, 2020, 08:11:17 PM
I found them good, plenty strong enough join onto the fishplate to allow you the maneuver them about with out detaching.
Also ample wire to thread tfhrough my baseboard and attach onto my bus loop.
pretty good work all round.                       I'm hoping to finalise events under the boards with a troublesome signal when I get a chance . Looks like cr signals maybe called soon. I've found the resistor to have snapped and fiddly awkward wires a pain
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 10, 2020, 08:32:33 PM
First the bad news modelling electronics could not help. A call to ken at john dutfield proved to be a help.  10 feet of wire sold. Now. N gauge rail joiners turned up plus lengths I needed to fit the 7 road fiddle yard. Ok, next ken accidentally sent OO gauge fishplates. In the post and he kindly has asked and arranged his assistant, not heather his wife to dig out some prewired fishplates. Hurrah. @DarrwestLU6 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6745) tags where do I buy from.please ?   Going to spend tomorrow testing, operating stock and soldering

PM me your postal address and I'll post you some!  Let me know how many you need.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 10, 2020, 09:41:30 PM
Thanks darren. Will text an answer. I've been on a late and sketching buildings but more next week as working flat out til sunday . I'm working on a few buildings for the fiddle yard to be made from thick card and plasticard plus a couple of items I found at stevenage show in my box
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on September 14, 2020, 10:01:57 PM
Goodies are in the post should arrive by Wednesday as I sent it first class.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 14, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
Thanks. Been woken up and yes. On 630 3pm wshifts. So not much going to happen until friday my day off before I work saturday ..... thanks darren. The work will focus on sorting spaghetti junction part 2 under the board and sunday scenics and a factory I'm.planning
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 15, 2020, 03:49:01 PM
An early start today. The tags arrived. Attached and loose wires sorted. Now for buildings I'm looking at https://www.flickr.com/photos/8a-collection/25215518767/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/8a-collection/25215518767/)  yes the runcorn salt union.  See
   No mean feat with research http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/IndustrialandPrivateRailways/FollyLaneICIBranch (http://www.8dassociation.btck.co.uk/IndustrialandPrivateRailways/FollyLaneICIBranch) needed. Ensuring I've done research and brought some thick card, plasticard and will post
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 16, 2020, 03:21:26 PM
So after an early morning and some research whilst sat in a sweaty unit windows down I'm contemplating my next purchases :   https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?products_id=22412 (https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?products_id=22412)  Lifecolor surfaces shadower, which I can brush on. Plus a quick browse in my local independent DIY store I found https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/chalked/ (https://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/chalked/) and some thick card at 1mm he sold cheap . I even noticed at the local model shop he opened for 2 hours a kit which was discontinued an n gauge silo system similar to https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/faller-models/272915 (https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/faller-models/272915) but with pieces missing £3  parted with but that will keep me interested sunday when am off after a 14 hour work day saturday. Runcorn salt union works here we go.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 21, 2020, 07:47:59 PM
Not much happening except wiring around the works and odd hole drilling and then working out what dummy catenary, wires I require. Still planning the salt works piece and cutting card when not at work
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: LASteve on September 23, 2020, 07:03:25 AM
Keep us updated, Chris! The catenary wires sounds like a long project, much like my third rail, but plenty of people here to help and cheer!  :beers:
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 23, 2020, 07:44:25 AM
Thanks steve. The masts will be easy it's the bending of wires and attaching them that will be fun. For now focussing on building structures steve and odd jobs that need completing. ITS a project steve @LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) that's taking time. Dapol have ncat1 easifit masts just have to drill a hole and attach with supplied wingnuts . I plan to use these compared to other products. The mast detail is included as the insulators and cable plus frame register arm are pre soldered. I will have to look at nbrasslocos cantilever supports with a 6 foot encumbrance and the contact wire at 17 inches . It's not a rush job
 
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 23, 2020, 08:06:50 AM
Thanks steve. The masts will be easy it's the bending of wires and attaching them that will be fun. For now focussing on building structures steve and odd jobs that need completing. ITS a project steve @LASteve (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6889) that's taking time. Dapol have ncat1 easifit masts just have to drill a hole and attach with supplied wingnuts . I plan to use these compared to other products. The mast detail is included as the insulators and cable plus frame register arm are pre soldered. I will have to look at nbrasslocos cantilever supports with a 6 foot encumbrance and the contact wire at 17 inches . It's not a rush job
  and I'm on the phone later to ken and https://salopianmodels.com/shop/ols/products/dapol-ncat1-n-gauge-mk-3-catenary-masts-pack-of-10/v/NCAT1 (https://salopianmodels.com/shop/ols/products/dapol-ncat1-n-gauge-mk-3-catenary-masts-pack-of-10/v/NCAT1)    but the card buildings are the for now job
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 25, 2020, 08:55:06 PM
The weekend is here. And despite weather I shall guess, being at home, shopping then working off the right hand point and curve aiming to add the extra lines but scaled in. Space is tight. The plasticard has been cut to add to https://scalescenes.com/product/t009-modern-industrial-building/ (https://scalescenes.com/product/t009-modern-industrial-building/) this which I downloaded whilst on nights wednesday. Yes, shunted stock and showed a trainee how to couple Buckeyes and screw couplings. Then home and phone off and blocked the work phones. So back to my kit and ordered bits of windows off  http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/etched_windows_prices_specs_2mm.htm (http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/etched_windows_prices_specs_2mm.htm) then borrowed a silhouette cutter we have. Read instructions to name 2 strips off 10 windows glued them on to card . I will do more on other windows and add a roller  blind when less tired after I have evergreen styrene https://www.hattons.co.uk/products/category-evergreen-scale-models-styrene-plastic-shapes (https://www.hattons.co.uk/products/category-evergreen-scale-models-styrene-plastic-shapes)  . I found some cheap from John dutfield . The building at runcorn has a lift shaft simple here. Square bit offcut glued brickpaper. Blob of black paint. I'm using an old farish scenecraft building furvthe loos shower block and adding a base 2mm so the base not the building bends into the tarmac grey scene into which  I will mix.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: Innovationgame on September 26, 2020, 06:43:39 AM
Thanks for the useful links, Chris.
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 26, 2020, 07:26:00 AM
Welcome laurence @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091) I hope they help you as much as it  did me
Title: Re: ditton ( - and the works )
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 26, 2020, 08:26:42 AM
It has been modelled before in OO as seen here
  and 
   so will be reducing the buildings somewhat
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