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Title: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on September 15, 2019, 03:17:41 PM
Hi all,

I am Kevin, from the Netherlands. I run a webshop called www.Panzer-Shop.nl (http://www.Panzer-Shop.nl) and i focus on making 1:160 military vehicles.

I recently found this forum and saw that it has a ďMilitaryĒ section, so i figured i would register and make a post to see if there is interest. Currently i ship to the entire EU and have a established a small customer base in the UK. My main cliŽnt base however is currently from Germany and The Netherlands, it would be great to get some more UK based railroaders involved.

Before the complaints start, i did already message the forum admins to make sure that i get the donations in place so that will al be covered.

You can visit the english webshop through https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/. (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/.) I would love to hear your input! I can easily expand my UK section as i have quite a few models in my backlog. Also i am very interested as to what is built in the UK, regarding countries and time.

I hope to speak some of you soon!

With kind regards,

Kevin Boogaard
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Snowwolflair on September 15, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
Hi all,

I am Kevin, from the Netherlands. I run a webshop called [url=http://www.Panzer-Shop.nl]www.Panzer-Shop.nl[/url] ([url]http://www.Panzer-Shop.nl[/url]) and i focus on making 1:160 military vehicles.

I recently found this forum and saw that it has a ďMilitaryĒ section, so i figured i would register and make a post to see if there is interest. Currently i ship to the entire EU and have a established a small customer base in the UK. My main cliŽnt base however is currently from Germany and The Netherlands, it would be great to get some more UK based railroaders involved.

Before the complaints start, i did already message the forum admins to make sure that i get the donations in place so that will al be covered.

You can visit the english webshop through [url]https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/.[/url] ([url]https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/.[/url]) I would love to hear your input! I can easily expand my UK section as i have quite a few models in my backlog. Also i am very interested as to what is built in the UK, regarding countries and time.

I hope to speak some of you soon!

With kind regards,

Kevin Boogaard
Panzer-Shop.nl


Very nice range of models.  I have come across them before on Shapeways but one thought there is no such thing as an English Army, well not yet anyway  :D
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on September 15, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
Hi Snow,

Thanks for your reply!

Shapeways is always terribly expensive so i dont use it that much. I tend to use it in the hopes that people bump into my Shapeways models and will then be led to my webshop to purchase it from there for half the price. Better for everyone involved.

Do you mean that on my webshop there are not many English vehicles? That is correct as there seems to be 0 demand outside of the UK for UK models. If there is demand i have quite a sizable backlog i can acces to make the UK categorie also interesting. But as of now, you are right. My UK categorie is not that spectacular.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on September 15, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
Hi Kevin :wave: and welcome aboard! :wave:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on September 15, 2019, 04:53:26 PM
Hi, and welcome. That's some interesting stuff you have there.

You might like to check with @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) the administrator as you're advertising your own products though.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on September 15, 2019, 04:59:11 PM
@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427), thanks!

@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604), like i mentioned in my original post i already e-mailed to the forum emailadress to contact the mods. All i could find about this is a donation thing, so i am most confident that this will be arranged soon.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on September 15, 2019, 05:48:30 PM
You may get requests to print in 1/150 for UK models

I think Snowflair was suggesting that British Army would be a More accurate description
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Tank on September 15, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
Welcome to the forum!  I have your email and will reply to you soon.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on September 16, 2019, 10:45:04 AM
@Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941) A 1:150 rescale is easily done. No problem. Also he is then of course right regarding the UK/British name tag, it will be changed.

@Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) Thank you and good to hear that you have it. I look forward to your reply.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on November 21, 2019, 11:20:38 AM
Hello everyone,

Finally i had time to give the British section some love. After receiving a request i have made the following vehicles, now available in our webshop:

FV101 Scorpion:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109611/british/fv101-scorpion/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109611/british/fv101-scorpion/)

FV102 Striker:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109715/british/fv102-striker/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109715/british/fv102-striker/)

FV103 Spartan:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109730/british/fv103-spartan/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109730/british/fv103-spartan/)

FV104 Samaritan:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109736/british/fv104-samaritan/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109736/british/fv104-samaritan/)

FV105 Sultan:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109756/british/fv105-sultan/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109756/british/fv105-sultan/)

FV107 Scimitar:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109768/british/fv107-scimitar/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109768/british/fv107-scimitar/)

FV120 Spartan:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109827/british/fv120-spartan/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109827/british/fv120-spartan/)

FV433 Abbot:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109839/british/fv433-abbot/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109839/british/fv433-abbot/)

FV601 Saladin:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109860/british/fv601-saladin/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58109860/british/fv601-saladin/)

I hope this is something you will like, as a start to enlarging my British section.

With kind regards,

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on November 21, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)  )

Your vehicles look great - congratulations.  You state on your web page that they are printed but I cannot really see any layering?  Is it there and the photos just don't show it or do you have magic sauce?

Are you planning on doing a British Cromwell at some point?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on November 21, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
Hi Paddy,

They are indeed printed. The layer lines are not visible in a large way because I use the right printers and tried a lot of things to eliminate the lines. The pictures are pictures of unedited models, just spray painted. For unedited and unpainted models, take a look at for example our Biber vehicle (Attached). If you really try your hardest to find layer lines you can find something on some spots, but they are as small as they can be. Take a look at our blank vehicles so you can see.

I can get you a Cromwell no problem. Take a look at the picture for the design. I just have to test print it to get it ready for sale. Let me know if you want it and I will get on it.

Kevin

@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on November 22, 2019, 11:16:27 AM
these are printed with photolithography - ie with a laser in a tank of resin -see 3D printing section for the fount of all knowledge.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=136.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?board=136.0)

its a microscopic FDM (Fused Deposition Model) version of the standard / old systems. - imagine printing layers with a toothpaste tube. the layers are usually visible, due to mechanical limitations. then imagine adding layers with a minute beam of light. no visible printing line!
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on November 22, 2019, 11:19:34 AM
Any bids for a Pig, Saracen, Landrover (armoured)?? 

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on November 22, 2019, 11:37:26 AM
Hi,

The only way to produce obvious layer lines with this technique is by positioning the models the wrong way in the printer, but after about 250+ unique models you will start getting the hang of it. Sometimes itís unavoidable on parts like mudflaps etc.

Out of the 3 vehicles mentioned only a Land Rover is planned. The Land Rover Lightweight is being drawn somewhere in the near future.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on November 22, 2019, 12:48:54 PM
Hi,

The only way to produce obvious layer lines with this technique is by positioning the models the wrong way in the printer, but after about 250+ unique models you will start getting the hang of it. Sometimes itís unavoidable on parts like mudflaps etc.

Out of the 3 vehicles mentioned only a Land Rover is planned. The Land Rover Lightweight is being drawn somewhere in the near future.

Kevin

Bad news for N Irish modellers
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on November 22, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
Kevin, it'd be great to see modern vehicles like Force Protection's Ocelot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot_(vehicle)) (known as Foxhounds in the British Army) and Cougar (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/) (known as Mastiffs, Wolfhounds and Ridgebacks in the British Army). Personally, I'd prefer 1:150 so that there's a bit of tolerance to play with.



@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on November 22, 2019, 01:36:36 PM
They are very good Kevin and what an impressive technique.  Also thank you for your PM re. British Cromwell tank.  This to 1:150 scale would be great for Warwell loads in the 1950/60s.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: kirky on November 22, 2019, 06:32:45 PM
Im confused as to why 1/150th is being offered for British military vehicles. Why not the correct scale of 1/148th? Surely this is just a slight adjustment in the print file? @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) Just wondering?
Thanks
Kirky
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on November 22, 2019, 06:53:39 PM
Im confused as to why 1/150th is being offered for British military vehicles. Why not the correct scale of 1/148th? Surely this is just a slight adjustment in the print file? @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) Just wondering?
Thanks
Kirky

Be grateful for the 1/150 scale. I've looked at six different Cromwell tanks in 1/148, and they were all oversize, which is obviously a pain in the posterior considering that they hung over the edge of wagons in real life.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on November 22, 2019, 07:01:03 PM
Totally agree @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604).  If you could guarantee 100% dimensional accuracy then 1:148 would be OK.  However, 1:150 would give a wee bit of wriggle room and not be noticeable on something like a tank.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on November 22, 2019, 07:35:42 PM
Im confused as to why 1/150th is being offered for British military vehicles. Why not the correct scale of 1/148th? Surely this is just a slight adjustment in the print file? @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) Just wondering?
Thanks
Kirky

For clarity, 1:150 isn't being offered. Kevin offers the British vehicles in 1:160, which is fine for those modelling BAOR with Euro stock.

For those of us modelling British Outline, then yes, accurately scaled 1:148 would be ideal. But some of us (myself included) have found vehicles offered elsewhere as 1:148 aren't accurately scaled. So the same some of us are requesting that Kevin offer them in 1:150 so we have some wiggle room (TM Paddy :D ).
 :beers:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: kirky on November 22, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
Thanks guys. Thats cleared that up then. Ask for 1/150th so that it is nearer 1/148th. What ever next?

Cheers
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on November 22, 2019, 07:57:44 PM
Hi @kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492)

It all comes down to loading gauge if your plan is to use the models as train loads.  If it is over scale then your train will be out of gauge and may hit other stock on curves, whack platforms and/or other line side features.

If the tank is a wee bit too small then it will at least be within the British loading gauge.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: kirky on November 22, 2019, 08:06:35 PM
Hi @kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492)

It all comes down to loading gauge if your plan is to use the models as train loads.  If it is over scale then your train will be out of gauge and may hit other stock on curves, whack platforms and/or other line side features.

If the tank is a wee bit too small then it will at least be within the British loading gauge.

Kind regards

Paddy
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
I understand all of that. I am merely pointing out the absurdity of wanting the correct scale but having to order something different. Im beginning to wonder if when the cottage industry 3d printer bods work out their scales they are going down a 2 mm/ft rather than 1/148th. That would make it smaller though, as 2 mil is 1/152.
Cheers

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on November 22, 2019, 09:18:30 PM
Hi all,

A lot to unpack here,

There was a question about an Ocelot, I donít have that. I do however already have the Cougar MRAP 4x4. I just linked it into the British section. I can get other versions of the Cougar pretty quickly as I already have the files. No problem, let me know if you want them and which specifick version you are looking for. Then i can take a look to what I do and do not have. @RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427)

@others:
The whole scale thing is no problem for me. If you want a model in 1:148/1:150 or whatever you feel is good for you, just send me an email and I can rescale them for you. It wonít take much time, I will probably charge you Ä1 extra per models to compensate for material costs and time spent on rescaling and (if needed) test printing.

Interesting discussion though, the whole 1:150/1:148 thing. To me, as someone not from the UK, so not being used to that scale it feels like limiting yourself in available models, as N scale is regularly made in 1:160. Is British stuff usually made in 1:150/1/148? Genuinly a question, I do not know. I drive German WW2 or German Cold War trains.

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on November 22, 2019, 09:46:01 PM
Hi Kevin, thanks for your last post. I'll hopefully be ordering a Cougar or few after pay day.

The standard for British Outline N Gauge is 1:148.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: kirky on November 22, 2019, 09:54:26 PM
@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)
And just to complicate things, the accurate 2mm scale used by 2mm finescale Modellerís is 1/152.
Japanese N scale is 1/150
Europe and US is 1/160
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on November 22, 2019, 10:04:57 PM
..
 I do however already have the Cougar MRAP 4x4. I just linked it into the British section.
...

 :smackedface: Doh! Of course as soon as I read that, it dawns on me that I might find the Cougar in the USA section. And, sure enough.

While browsing the USA section, I noticed the WW1 Holt 120 Artillery Tractor. The Holt 75 was built under license in Britain by Ruston & Hornsby in Lincoln. Holt models were titled after the horsepower produced - Holt 120 produced 120 hp. In N I doubt that anyone could tell a 120 from a 75 or a 60, so I reckon you could list that in the British section too.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on November 22, 2019, 10:44:46 PM
Hi,

@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427), Allright. Let me know if you want other Cougars! I will also take a look into the visual difference between a Holt 120 and a 75. If itís virtually the same vehicle I can link that too!

@kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492), I knew the Japanese had a different number, I didnít know they used it this close to home though. But like I said, small scale changes are no problem for me. Iím fine rescaling them!

With kind regards,

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 04, 2019, 10:28:11 AM
Hi,

And as the last one in this series the FV721 Fox has also been added:

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58253582/british/fv721-fox/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58253582/british/fv721-fox/)

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 04, 2019, 01:27:00 PM
Very nice Kevin.  As a matter of interest, did you make a decision about the British Cromwell tank in 1:150?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on December 04, 2019, 01:51:29 PM
Very nice Kevin.  As a matter of interest, did you make a decision about the British Cromwell tank in 1:150?

Kind regards

Paddy

Yep he did - we can email him (or I assume a PM would be OK too) with specific requests.  :beers:

..
The whole scale thing is no problem for me. If you want a model in 1:148/1:150 or whatever you feel is good for you, just send me an email and I can rescale them for you. It wonít take much time, I will probably charge you Ä1 extra per models to compensate for material costs and time spent on rescaling and (if needed) test printing.
...
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 04, 2019, 01:53:27 PM
Hi,

@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) is right, @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ! I will actually start on the Cromwell today and add it soon, I just need to test print it. Then for the 1:150 part an email to let me know is enough, it will cost Ä2,50 extra for each vehicle that is in a different scale then 1:160.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 05, 2019, 12:21:09 PM
Hi,

@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) , here is the Cromwell IV:

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58265269/british/cromwell-iv/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58265269/british/cromwell-iv/)

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 06, 2019, 09:43:09 AM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Looking good although the distinctive fairings over the front of the tracks and on the sides seem to missing?

See the following photo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromwell_tank

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 06, 2019, 10:37:09 AM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ,

That depends on the version. They also existed without the side skirts.

If you want them with I can make that happen.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on December 06, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ,

That depends on the version. They also existed without the side skirts.

If you want them with I can make that happen.

Kevin

They did exist without the side fairings, but the version with the 'Normandy fairing' on the exhaust did have the side bits, as well as having a longer equipment locker on the right hand skirt.

It's still a very nice model you've come up with though.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 06, 2019, 09:26:36 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)  and @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)

Ah, well I am not a tank expert so please excuse my ignorance.  I wondered what the huge exhaust was on the back (Normandy fairing then?).  As I would be using these for 1950s train loads would this have been removed by then?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 06, 2019, 09:55:58 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) and others,

I have a version with the side fairings now drawn.

I do not know about the exhaust and when and how that was used, regarding location or railroad transportation. Perhaps @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) has knowledge of this?

I will not test print the new model for now, let me know what you want with the exhaust. I can take that off if you want. When that decision has been made I will test print and put it in the webshop.

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on December 06, 2019, 10:13:37 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)  and @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)

Ah, well I am not a tank expert so please excuse my ignorance.  I wondered what the huge exhaust was on the back (Normandy fairing then?).  As I would be using these for 1950s train loads would this have been removed by then?

Kind regards

Paddy

I have no idea. Sorry.

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on December 07, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
The exhaust on the back was to the best of my knowledge introduced for Dday and other amphibious crossings. It may not have been on much either side of being needed.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 07, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
Hi,

@Richard G Dallimore (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=82)
@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)
@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427)
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

Reading on the web, it seems to suggest that the Normandy fairing had to be removed when the tank was being transported by rail.  This was to allow the gun to be rotated and secured towards the rear of the tank.

So, from a model railway train load perspective the Normandy fairing should be removed.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on December 07, 2019, 08:33:11 PM
Hi,

@Richard G Dallimore (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=82)
@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)
@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427)
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

Reading on the web, it seems to suggest that the Normandy fairing had to be removed when the tank was being transported by rail.  This was to allow the gun to be rotated and secured towards the rear of the tank.

So, from a model railway train load perspective the Normandy fairing should be removed.

Kind regards

Paddy

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I did some research on rail transport of Cromwells for my Warwell wagon rake, and we found photos of Cromwells being transported with guns facing forward and rearwards. So, they don't NEED to be taken off for rail transport.

Sorry!
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on December 07, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
Hi,

@Richard G Dallimore (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=82)
@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)
@RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427)
@emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

Reading on the web, it seems to suggest that the Normandy fairing had to be removed when the tank was being transported by rail.  This was to allow the gun to be rotated and secured towards the rear of the tank.

So, from a model railway train load perspective the Normandy fairing should be removed.

Kind regards

Paddy

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I did some research on rail transport of Cromwells for my Warwell wagon rake, and we found photos of Cromwells being transported with guns facing forward and rearwards. So, they don't NEED to be taken off for rail transport.

Sorry!

Don't you just love this hobby(!)? Think I might switch to something more certain like astrology. :D
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on December 08, 2019, 08:54:46 AM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/941-190819203215-805972187.jpeg)

or

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/941-190819220358-80598710.jpeg)

take your choice!
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 08, 2019, 11:51:34 AM
Hi,

The variety is great, isnít it  :confused2:

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 08, 2019, 01:05:14 PM
To quote Cole Porter...

"In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking.
But now, God knows,
Anything goes.
"

 :hmmm:

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 08, 2019, 01:10:30 PM
Hi,

The variety is great, isnít it  :confused2:

Kevin

Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Sorry, being serious for a minute.  It would seem that it is prototypical for the Normandy exhaust to be present or absent.  Also, the gun can face forward or aft when travelling by rail.  One question then - on your model, if you rotate the gun to the rear of the tank does it hit the Normandy fairing?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 08, 2019, 01:14:20 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ,

It appears to not do that, because the barrel would not reach it.

Kevin

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 08, 2019, 04:13:36 PM
Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

That looks great, like the mud guards too.  So how does one go about ordering these in 1:150?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 08, 2019, 04:17:02 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ,

Do you like it how it is or do you want them with the mudguards? If so I will have to add those to the webshop first. Is no problem, just let me know.

Once youíre ready I will add an article called ďaddition cost for re-scalingĒ. If you add that times the amount of vehicles you want in 1:150 and the extra cost is calculated.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 08, 2019, 04:46:45 PM
Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

That sounds perfect.  I have taken the liberty of sending you a private message with my order requirements.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 16, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

How is it going with the 1:150 version of the Cromwell?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 17, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) ,

The 1:160 unit is finished:

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/a-58265269/engels/cromwell-iv/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/a-58265269/engels/cromwell-iv/)

The unit with skirts is in there too.

I will send you a message about the 1:150 model.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 17, 2019, 09:41:41 AM
Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Thank you for your reply.  I have sent you a PM to confirm order for 4 x Cromwell IV tanks in 1:150 scale with skirts.

Please do not be offended, but can I ask a question?  The barrel of the gun looks rather thick compared to the real thing - is this simply a limitation of the printing process i.e. to give it sufficient strength?

Looking forward to receiving these.

Merry Christmas

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on December 17, 2019, 09:50:48 AM
Hi Paddy,

I will tone down the barrel indeed. That was already my plan for the 1:150 model, it will look smaller relatively.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: The Q on December 17, 2019, 01:41:19 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/941-190819203215-805972187.jpeg)

or

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/941-190819220358-80598710.jpeg)

take your choice!
in neither photograph are the tanks ready for transport, they are not yet chained down...
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Snowwolflair on December 17, 2019, 01:52:08 PM
A slight change in focus.

I read some years ago that German Mk III and MkIV tanks travelling by rail on the Eastern front were crewed and powered.  I cannot now find the article but it was quite interesting.  The thrust was that due to partisan attacks the trains needed to be able to defend themselves.  It did not mention bigger tanks but I assume their recoil would be a problem.  I know that later there were MKIV turrets mounted on rail cars for defence.

Does anyone have any information on this.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 17, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Hi Folks,

Was thinking of using Humbrol 86 Light Olive Matt to paint the tanks.  Is that a good choice or should I be using something greener?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on December 18, 2019, 03:42:36 PM
Well, I have taken the plunge and ordered four Cromwellís in 1:150 scale from Kevin.  One to practice on and three to use in my military train.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 12:05:46 PM
Hi @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851), @The Q (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6067), @Richard G Dallimore (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=82), @kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492), @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2), @Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941), @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761), @RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427), @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

Well my four Cromwell tanks arrived this morning from @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851).  To say they are miniature masterpieces is a gross understatement.  They arrived well packed and the detail is astounding - I just hope my painting can do them justice.

The barrel has been slimmed down as Kevin promised and the turret rotates freely.

I simply cannot recommend these models enough.

Many thanks Kevin for your help and patience.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 08, 2020, 12:14:23 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356),

They arrived just this morning? I wondered if you had them a few days ago already. I guess postal services had more trouble then I hoped from Christmas because that took long!

Good to hear that you are happy and I thank you for the compliments! If there is anything I can do to help you in the future, let me know!

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 12:31:11 PM
Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

In terms of painting them, my plan was.

1. Soak them in IPA for 5 minutes.
2. Gentle scrub then with a toothbrush under warm water.
3. Leave to dry.
4. Prime them with Halfordsí grey primer.
5. Paint them green etc.

Does that sound like a good plan?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 08, 2020, 12:35:19 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356),

Cleaning them in IPA and letting it dry is also fine. IPA vaporizes fast.

Be very careful making them warm or cold under the tap. Warm water makes them flexible, if you change the angle of the barrel and let it cool is will retain that position. Make it cold and it will become extremely brittle so that it breaks when touching the wrong part.

I do not use water for cleaning at all. I would suggest skipping that part, and especially donít use a toothbrush when made cold. When on normal temprature they wonít break and a toothbrush is fine.

A primer is good, paint will stick without it, but a primer is of course rarely the wrong choice. Sounds good! Iím curious to see the pictures!

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on January 08, 2020, 01:06:33 PM
we look forward to Before & After pictures.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 08, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) can you do me a favour. Well, two actually.

1. Can you get a couple of good pics up.

2. Can you get a measurement over the widest point of the tank, preferably within 0.5mm if possible.

I'm interested to see how they look/measure up against the white metal Cromwell's I currently have, to see whether I change tack, again, and try a third version of the Cromwell's.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 01:44:54 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

Not at home at present but happy to oblige later.  In terms of photos, they are identical to the ones on Kevinís site but with a finer scaled barrel.  I will take a couple of photos too though.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 08:42:49 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

I will take the photos in daylight but the tank is a wee bit under 18mm wide.  When I say a wee bit, probably 1/5th of a mm.

Sat on a flat wagon the tank looks perfect.  At true 1/148 scale the tank would be 19.6mm if Wikipedia is correct?

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 08, 2020, 08:55:13 PM
Hi,

At the very wisest point, which is the ribs on the added mudflaps (is ribs the right word?) the design is made to be 20.08mm wide. There should by far not be 2mm shrinkage in the width, but more between .5 and 1mm. 2.908m divided by 150 (not 148) ends up to be 19.39mm. I believe that should be right, if you count the ribbons.

Did you count those ribbons? If the size is still that small I am curious to why that is. I will then reprint and investigate why it shrunk that much. Maybe the cold in the extremely long shipping process, which in theory should not be a problem. But who knows.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 08, 2020, 09:31:53 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

I will take the photos in daylight but the tank is a wee bit under 18mm wide.  When I say a wee bit, probably 1/5th of a mm.

Sat on a flat wagon the tank looks perfect.  At true 1/148 scale the tank would be 19.6mm if Wikipedia is correct?

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

Paddy

Thanks very much for the info. I look forward to seeing the photos. Then I've got to decide whether to press on with my white metal ones or switch to these.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 09:58:34 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) ) and @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

I was measuring from the outside of track to track.  Placed on top of a 1/148 flat wagon the edges of the tracks hang over just like the prototype photos earlier in this thread i.e. pretty damn perfect.

 :)

The level of detail/finesse that Kevin achieves is amazing.  There is even a little machine gun sticking out the front.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 08, 2020, 10:03:40 PM
Hi,

Oef, thatís a relief. The top part of the hull is slightly wider, so then it should be in the right range. I was very suprised by those numbers, haha. Glad you like them! :D

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 08, 2020, 10:20:44 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Sorry, did not mean to worry you.  Also, thank you for clarifying the preparation and painting steps.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 12:18:31 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) and @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851)

As promised, here are four photos of Kevin's Cromwell tank in 1/150 as delivered.  These have not been cleaned in IPA or anything else.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-090120121201.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-090120121224.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-090120121243.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-090120121259.jpeg)

Sorry for the quality of the photos - it is not an easy item to capture given its transparent nature.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Kind regards

Paddy

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 09, 2020, 01:59:48 PM
Aaaargh!

Now I don't know what to do! I've ditched the resin Cromwell's as they were so full of bubbles it was a nightmare, I've got nice quality white metal ones, which have a bit of flash to deal with and require some easily achieved 'narrowing', but they are weighty, and now there's these.

I love the detail. I like the proportions, they'll sit perfectly on my Warwells (Yes, Warwells not Warflats (I like to be different)), but they're going to be light.

Aaaaargh, brain overload.

 :worried:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 02:16:42 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

To my eyes, I cannot see any clean up is required on Kevinís Cromwells.  I have no idea how Kevin does this but if all 3D ďprintsĒ were of this quality then it would be a perfect technology.

The Cromwells are not feather light but obviously will way less than white metal ones.  I am creating my own shorter than prototype ďWarflatsĒ and if necessary will add some weight.

The tanks will be part of a longer military train on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

At the end of the day, these models are tiny and once painted and stuck on a flat or well wagon will look great.  From normal viewing distances they will look like a green blob.  ;)

Kevinís Cromwellís are probably the best British N gauge option out there but not cheap.  How many do you need?  Is it justifiable to start again from a cost perspective?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 09, 2020, 02:29:35 PM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) are the bottoms of the Cromwells hollow? I'm wondering if the bottom could be filled with 'Liquid Gravity' (other products are available) to give them some mass.

I'm REALLY liking yours. I need four to make up a short consist of wagons.

Decisions, decisions.

 :'(
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 03:29:28 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

I have just weighed one of the Cromwell tanks and it is 4g.  The turret has a round peg underneath which slots in a hole in the body.  The hole is 8mm across by 5mm deep - I suppose this could be filled with additional weight and the turret glued on top?

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 09, 2020, 03:45:09 PM
Hi,

To help out with the answer of making the models more heavy, here are some pictures. The tanks are hollow, with small drain holes in the bottom to let air in and resin out during printing and cleaning. You could use those holes to inject a heavy fluid that will become hard. See attached pictures. I have several customers who have also done that with other models.

The holes are close to 2.7mm each from one side to another.

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 09, 2020, 04:11:35 PM
That's good to know. If you open out the holes carefully you ought to be able to pour in a little small gauge lead shot and then glue to hold it in place, that'd give them enough weight to be a good load on a wagon.

These are looking more and more tempting!
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 09, 2020, 05:28:07 PM
Hi,

The holes are not plugged by me. They are shipped with the holes still open as you canít see it since itís on the bottom.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 11, 2020, 03:14:14 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

Also, I could make the holes larger if that is what you prefer. Forgot to say that.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 11, 2020, 04:06:48 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

Also, I could make the holes larger if that is what you prefer. Forgot to say that.

Kevin

No, it's fine, thank you. They look great.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 13, 2020, 10:59:41 AM
Hi all,

I am currently designing the new MAN trucks that the Bundeswehr is purchasing. The English Army uses the same trucks now in a slightly different configuration. Would there be interest in those? If there is I will make them, if there is not I wonít bother as I think that the English market is a tough one to manage with all of the different scale preferences.

For example:  MAN HX60, HX58, HX77.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: acko22 on January 13, 2020, 11:56:27 AM
Hmm the SV series well that is right up my street for my planned layout, as well a few of you offerings.
Although the Cougar MRAP in the British section isn't a UK vehicle.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 12:22:01 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356),

Cleaning them in IPA and letting it dry is also fine. IPA vaporizes fast.

Be very careful making them warm or cold under the tap. Warm water makes them flexible, if you change the angle of the barrel and let it cool is will retain that position. Make it cold and it will become extremely brittle so that it breaks when touching the wrong part.

I do not use water for cleaning at all. I would suggest skipping that part, and especially donít use a toothbrush when made cold. When on normal temprature they wonít break and a toothbrush is fine.

A primer is good, paint will stick without it, but a primer is of course rarely the wrong choice. Sounds good! Iím curious to see the pictures!

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl

Hi Kevin, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Well, just soaked each tank and turret in IPA for 10 minutes and they are drying off as I type.  No damage seems to have occurred.  As you recommended, I have avoided the use of water.

Next step will be to prime the tanks...

Kind regards

Paddy

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
Hi Folks,

The tanks dried well although I did notice some crystallisation inside the tank and turret bodies.  I assume this is nothing to worry about?

The first coat of grey Halfords primer has been applied and left to dry.  It is quite magical what happens when the primer is applied - suddenly all the wonderful detail on the Cromwell becomes visible.

Once dry, I will check if a second coat of primer is needed.  I will also upload some photos of the primed Cromwell for comparison.

So far, so good.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 14, 2020, 02:40:02 PM
Hi,

I believe a previous forum member recommended to me that that MRAP is British  :doh:. Iím lost, haha.

Nice @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)! I do not know what kind of cristalisation you mean, but Iím sure itís nothing to worry about as all resin is cured and IPA will vaporate. Iím looking forward to the results!

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
Thanks Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) ).  Second coat of primer has been applied!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 14, 2020, 03:54:41 PM
Hi,

2 layers even? I even painted them without primer sometimes. No adhesion issues with Vallejo and Revell Email color here.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 14, 2020, 03:55:51 PM
Looking forward to seeing these in primer.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) ) and @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

I suspect two coats of Halfords is overkill but I am new to all of this.  Just checked and the Cromwells look OK.  I am planning to use Humbrol 86 Light Olive for the top coat.

https://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/86-light-olive-matt-150ml-acrylic-spray-paint.html (https://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/86-light-olive-matt-150ml-acrylic-spray-paint.html)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 14, 2020, 04:10:04 PM
I usually do two light coats of Halfords acrylic grey primer. It seems to work on most things, without loss of detail.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 05:49:08 PM
Hi Folks, ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851), @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) )

As promised, here are some photos of the Cromwells with two coats of Halfords' grey primer.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-140120174447.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-140120174720.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-140120174528.jpeg)

These models are very small - it is not easy to get decent photos without daylight.  If I was doing this again, then I would probably suggest a single coat of primer.

Edit: I notice some of the turrets are not level in the photo - this is not a problem with a model but rather me.  I did not push them fully home before taking the pictures.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 14, 2020, 08:03:53 PM
 :'(

I hate you so much right now.

Now I'm going to have to buy four MORE Cromwell's.

 :(

They look fantastic. The clarity of detail is remarkable. Top marks to @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) for the work that's gone into them.

I may have to wait a little while for finances to steady up, but I think I'm going to have to get four.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 08:09:45 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604)

Sorry, but you did ask.  The level of detail that @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) achieves with these ďprintsĒ is nothing short of amazing.  I have had to do no cleanup or fettling of the models prior to priming.

I suspect you could wash these in IPA and spray them green and you would be done.  Fantastic if you are in to war gaming.

They are miniature masterpieces and I fear my painting will not do them justice.

Of course, I am now tempted to get a Tiger I.  :no:

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 14, 2020, 08:17:55 PM
Hi @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) and @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

Well, thank you both for the kind words :). It makes me happy when customers are happy with their vehicles, as that is of course the goal.

You would not necessarily clean them in IPA actually, I have many customers who donít. But preferably you would of course degrease a model before painting and that is best done with IPA when using resin models.

My WW2 German collection is really pretty I think, that includes my Tiger 1 ;)

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl

Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 08:48:50 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

There is just something awesome about any of the Tiger tanks.

Last year, we visited the Tank Museum In the UK.  They had a Panther next to a T34 - the difference in build quality was shocking.  The Panther was a quality product with most things properly machined and fitted.  The T34 on the other hand looked like it had been thrown together (which I suppose it had).

No doubt we should all be grateful that Germany did not cotton on to this form of mass production!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 14, 2020, 08:55:26 PM
Hi,

Ah, the Bovington Tank Museum. If only I could go there.... Magnificant museum, I follow them on YouTube and Facebook for a long time now.

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 14, 2020, 09:07:05 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Yes, that is the one.  It was my first visit and I was 51.  Sadly I enjoyed it a lot more than my wife and daughter.

Women eh!  ;)

The place is vast and they had an entire hall filled with all manner of Tigers in their various incarnations.  Well worth the entry fee IMHO.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 14, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) )

Yes, that is the one.  It was my first visit and I was 51.  Sadly I enjoyed it a lot more than my wife and daughter.

Women eh!  ;)

The place is vast and they had hen and entire hall filled with all manner of Tigers in their various incarnations.  Well worth the entry fee IMHO.

Kind regards

Paddy

It was my wife's 50th two years ago, so we had a long weekend in Bournemouth, somehow I managed for the pair of us to spend a day at Bovingdon. The Tiger collection was just awesome. The Tiger was the ONLY tank I touched in the whole museum. It's that special. Oddly, it was me dragging the wife out at 4pm!

Awesome museum.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2020, 10:15:49 AM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604), @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851),

The first coat of Humbrol Acrylic 86 Light Olive has been applied to the Cromwell tanks.  I was not sure about the colour but it looks great.  I will now leave them to dry for an hour or so.  The good thing about 86 Light Olive is that it comes in rattle cans and pots for touching up etc.

I will post some photos later.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2020, 02:52:23 PM
Hi @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604) @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851),

The olive paint worked well so no need for a second coat.

To quote the Mummy movie... ďmy eyes, my eyesĒ.  Blimey these Cromwells are small.  I decided to paint the tracks Matt black diluted 60/40.  This has the advantage of drying with a slight sheen and looks like metal.

There are a few touch up points but nothing major.

Before sealing with Matt varnish, I was planning on applying a wash, dry brushing etc. but in this scale I do not see (excuse the pun) the point.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 17, 2020, 03:30:55 PM
Don't forget all the Battalion insignia, bridge weights, emblems etc.

 :D
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2020, 08:56:39 PM
Hi @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851), @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604),

Once the main paint had dried I went back to touch up any missed bits.  This is where I hit my first problem.  The colour of Humbrol Acrylic 86 Light Olive in the tin was completely different from their spray can!

Despite a lot of stirring it would not get anywhere near the spray colour.  Possibly it is a duff pot but just a word of warning.  In the end, I sprayed some of the paint in to a palette and used that with a fine brush.

The tanks have now been sealed with a cost of Testorsí Dullcoat.

The result is far better than I ever hoped and perfectly acceptable for wagon loads on a military train.  I will take some photos in the daylight tomorrow and upload to this thread.

The build for the rest of the military train will be documented in my HOLLERTON JUNCTION thread.

Kevin - thank you for all your help with the Cromwells.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 17, 2020, 09:24:18 PM
I'm surprised you say there's a colour mismatch. I'd have expected better from Humbrol.

Look forward to seeing the pics.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 17, 2020, 09:29:22 PM
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2020, 09:34:25 PM
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.

Hi @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)

Ah, that is interesting and I will do a test then.  There was a big difference though as the spray is basically green whilst the pot was grey.  It could just be an old pot of paint although I purchased it last Wednesday.

All good experience though...

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Snowwolflair on January 17, 2020, 10:30:54 PM
I find that when the two types of paint get a varnish layer the difference goes away, something to do with the reflectivity of each type of paint.

Hi @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761)

Ah, that is interesting and I will do a test then.  There was a big difference though as the spray is basically green whilst the pot was grey.  It could just be an old pot of paint although I purchased it last Wednesday.

All good experience though...

Kind regards

Paddy

Yes, age of the paint makes a big difference if its acrylic, also concentration of pigment and dilution. 

I stick to enamel applied over an acrylic base coat if I can but you cannot apply enamel it to a 3D print directly as the white spirit base is a solvent to the type of plastic printed.

I still use some Humbrol paints first used by my dad 40 years ago, especially metallic paints, it's far better paint than the stuff they make now.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Paddy on January 18, 2020, 03:30:21 PM
Hi Folks,

@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851), @emjaybee (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5604), @Snowwolflair (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3761), @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166), @Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941), @The Q (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6067), @RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427), @Richard G Dallimore (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=82), @kirky (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=492), @Tank (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2)

As promised you can see a couple of photos of my completed Cromwell tanks from Panzer-Shop.nl in 1/150 scale.  I am sure others would get far better results than me but I am pleased with the outcome.  The tanks will certainly make very credible loads for my upcoming military train.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-180120152023.jpeg)

N.B. The tank leaning forward is not a fault with the model but rather the plastic tub it is sitting on.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-180120152041.jpeg)

I cannot recommend these models highly enough - Kevin you are a star!  Thank you.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 18, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
Hi Paddy,

Looking good! Nice paintjob!

When you have them on the cars, could you send me a picture so that I can use them for my customer gallery? I have nothing English in there yet.

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/c-4951580/customer-gallery/ (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/c-4951580/customer-gallery/)

Nice work!

Kevin
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: RailGooner on January 18, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
They look smashing Paddy. A good job done by both you and Kevin. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: emjaybee on January 18, 2020, 03:51:37 PM
Top banana bloke!

Full marks to all concerned.
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on May 01, 2020, 09:35:59 PM
 Hi all!

Im sure some of you got the memo, but a few weeks ago I finally finished of my new Chieftain design. One of the customers did a very nice job of painting it, and I did not want to hide the pictures from you. He also painted some other British stuff while he was at it.

Thank you for reading! :)

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Railwaygun on May 01, 2020, 11:35:46 PM
Soooper!
Title: Re: Military Webshop - latest Panzer-shop NL offerings
Post by: Railwaygun on May 04, 2020, 11:16:04 PM
latest Panzer-shop NL offerings

EN:
This month we have added several nice new vehicles, and a decalset for the East-German NVA. Above all we have released our biggest vehicle set we have every released.

The MAN KAT1 series is now available in many variants. That includes a complete bridging system with seperate parts to build into a river in your lay-out or diorama. A pure spectacle and a real landmark in all scenery parts.

A lot of new vehicles, and only more to come. Thank you for your support!

 

Neuheiten April:    (Plane=Tarp)
    
BTR-70:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664903/russland/btr-70/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664903/russland/btr-70/#description)
Chieftain:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586660/britisch/chieftain/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586660/britisch/chieftain/#description)
Decalsštze NVA:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59857615/decals-allgemein/decalsaetze-nva/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59857615/decals-allgemein/decalsaetze-nva/#description)
LAV-LOG:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59604052/amerika/lav-log/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59604052/amerika/lav-log/#description)
M1126 Stryker:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664894/amerika/m1126-stryker/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664894/amerika/m1126-stryker/#description)
M16 Rampe:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830831/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m16-rampe-einsatz/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830831/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m16-rampe-einsatz/#description)
M17 Brucke:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830855/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m17-brucke-einsatz/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830855/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-fsb-series-m17-brucke-einsatz/#description)
M1A1 Abrams:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664885/amerika/m1a1-abrams/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59664885/amerika/m1a1-abrams/#description)
M2 Bradley:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586759/amerika/m2-bradley/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586759/amerika/m2-bradley/#description)
M3 Bradley:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586781/amerika/m3-bradley/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59586781/amerika/m3-bradley/#description)
M3-Boot:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830779/bun...m3-boot/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830779/bun...m3-boot/#description)
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Ladekran:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718337/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-ladekran/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718337/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-ladekran/#description)
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718341/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-mit-plane/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718341/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-mit-plane/#description)
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8 Tankanlage:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718344/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-tankanlage/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718344/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8-tankanlage/#description)
MAN KAT1 10t 8x8:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718323/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718323/bundeswehr/man-kat1-10t-8x8/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FERA Feuerleitsystem (Aktiv):   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718150/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem-aktiv/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718150/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem-aktiv/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FERA Feuerleitsystem:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718139/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718139/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fera-feuerleitsystem/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 FM2:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718262/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fm2/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718262/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-fm2/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 LARS-2:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/search/?search=lars (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/search/?search=lars)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718097/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-mit-plane/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718097/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-mit-plane/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Tankanlage:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718274/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-tankanlage/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718274/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-tankanlage/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4 Zugfeuerleitstelle ARES II:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718182/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-zugfeuerleitstelle-ares-ii/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718182/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4-zugfeuerleitstelle-ares-ii/#description)
MAN KAT1 5t 4x4:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718090/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718090/bundeswehr/man-kat1-5t-4x4/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Container Transporter Sani:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718311/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-container-transporter-san/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718311/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-container-transporter-san/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Entgiftungsfahrzeug:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59856993/bun...ahrzeug/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59856993/bun...ahrzeug/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, Brucke:   
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830765/bun...bruecke/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830765/bun...bruecke/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, M3-Boot:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830708/bun...m3-boot/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830708/bun...m3-boot/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter, Rampe:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830727/bun...r-rampe/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830727/bun...r-rampe/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 FSB Transporter:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830699/bun...sporter/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59830699/bun...sporter/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Mit Plane:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718289/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-mit-plane/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718289/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-mit-plane/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6 Tipper:   https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718295/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-tipper/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718295/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6-tipper/#description)
MAN KAT1 7t 6x6:   
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718282/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/de_DE/a-59718282/bundeswehr/man-kat1-7t-6x6/#description)

 
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: acko22 on May 05, 2020, 02:45:15 AM
oh now MAN SV variants that's what I am talking about! maybe not the most fun to drive but they came with a kettle!! (Had to have priorities straight).
@Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) are you possible looking at doing your Man truck range with British load beds?
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on May 05, 2020, 07:06:07 AM
Hi @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166),

Would we not be looking at the MAN SH/HX range for that? I believe only the 8x8 with crane was used of the KAT1 series, correct?

Im not very much into the British army, but thatís what I remember from my research at the time. If you want the British versions of the SH/HX range, I can do that I think. I believe there are no huge changes, only suspension and some other things.

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: acko22 on May 05, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Hi @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166),

Would we not be looking at the MAN SH/HX range for that? I believe only the 8x8 with crane was used of the KAT1 series, correct?

Im not very much into the British army, but thatís what I remember from my research at the time. If you want the British versions of the SH/HX range, I can do that I think. I believe there are no huge changes, only suspension and some other things.

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl

Hi Kevin,

Just having a look through your website and your UFT 5T 6x6:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924827/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924827/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw/#description)
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924843/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw-with-tilt/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58924843/modern-1991/utf-5to-6x6-lkw-with-tilt/#description)

Is basically a SH/HX range wagons that the British Army use, if you make it a 4x4 version instead of 6x6 that is what we would call the MAN SV 6T, there are suitable differences which to make a British army version of the MAN series these been:

-Move the cupola housing on the cab to the opposite side (Right hand drive here in the UK)
-Remove the warning panel holders on the side and rear of the loading deck skirts (British vehicles don't have them, we use the folding panel on the front as you have done already, and another on the rear just above the light cluster under the load deck and then when carrying explosives we just use stick on labels on the cab)
-Behind the drives potion (UK drivers position) we store a spare wheel stowing it into the the space between cab and load bed rather than along the side length (although funny bit we cannot use it if needed on UK roads as it would fall out into the traffic!)
- UK versions with canopy have a curve to the top of them unlike the German versions which are flat topped.

A couple of bits that make near as damn it no difference are the hand rails around the loading deck skirt and rear bumper, the UK versions don't have these but a sharp blade can take care of that!

Also what we call the MAN SVR (Support Vehicle Recovery) is basically a UTF Multi 8x8, Tanker:
https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58931459/modern-1991/utf-multi-8x8-tanker/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-58931459/modern-1991/utf-multi-8x8-tanker/#description)
But with a recovery element on the rear with crane instead of the tanker element.
https://imgur.com/gallery/c5azL (https://imgur.com/gallery/c5azL)

Cheers
Gareth
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on May 05, 2020, 09:15:46 AM
Hi @acko22 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4166),

I see. I will ask my designer who knows most about this whole UTF range to take a look at whats possible. Dont expect anything too soon, my ''to-make-list'' is currently through the roof.

Once i have more time to look into that i will make sure to take a look. Its on the list!

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on May 25, 2020, 02:59:00 PM
Hi,

Perhaps there are people who would like to see our new Land Rover 88 Lightweight. I wanted to make this for quite a wheille and it finally happened.

https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-60188504/british/land-rover-88-lightweight/#description (https://www.panzer-shop.nl/en_GB/a-60188504/british/land-rover-88-lightweight/#description)

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
Title: Re: Military Webshop - 15% discount till 31/5
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on May 27, 2020, 07:33:03 AM
Hi,

A little Announcement. Because we hit 1000 likes on Facebook we have a 15% discount running on all vehicles until Sunday 31-05-2020. Enter the code ď1000Ē in the shopping cart and all discount is automatically calculated.

Thanks for reading!

Kevin
Panzer-Shop.nl
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