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Title: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: chrism on November 25, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
Hi all,

the name's Chris, from South Cumbria.

I've been lurking for a while, picked up a lot of useful snippets so I thought it was about time I signed up.

I haven't done any railway modelling for a very long time - it's approaching 40 years, I guess, since I took over my parents' loft and filled it up with all sorts of odd-shaped baseboards covered in various iterations of OO gauge layouts which culminated in an attempt at a recreation of Princetown station n Dartmoor. However, I then got involved in the real thing as a volunteer at the Watercress Line and no longer had time to do anything smaller than 305mm/ft, let alone N Gauge.

Since I've now retired to South Cumbria I've been keeping an eye out for anything local which might interest me and my local railway modelling club caught my eye, in particular because they have a layout of the local town in its heyday. I went along to have a look, decided they were a nice bunch of guys and joined.

As well as helping on their (our, I suppose, now I've joined the club) layouts I felt I needed a project of my own and a book about the now long closed Coniston Railway looked like it could provide what I wanted. Coniston station itself looked rather interesting and I worked out that, with a little "modeller's licence" at either end, I could fit it all into 8' x 3' if I switched to N gauge, so that's what I've started on.
It's a surprisingly complicated layout for a single-track branch terminus with a single track headshunt disappearing out of the other end to a copper and slate loading wharf up the valley - there are three platforms plus an additional runround loop but the entrance throat includes no less than three sets of crossover points so when I counted them up I found there are ten different ways of getting from one end to the other !!! In addition, there's a small 3 siding goods yard and a small loco shed and 42' turntable, all jammed into a "shelf" on the fellside above the town.

So far, I've built the baseboard (in 3 sections so it's transportable), bought the track, laid it out to see how it best fits the real track layout plan (with consideration taken for the baseboard joins and that neither the Furness Railway nor the LMS used Peco points) and I have now started tracklaying and wiring.

That'll keep me busy  ;)

KRs
Chris


Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Train Waiting on November 25, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
Welcome aboard, Chris.

I like the Coniston branch and have a plan in my head based on Torver.

I look forward to seeing your layout progressing.  As you say, Coniston was quite a complicated location.


All best wishes.

John 
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: crewearpley40 on November 25, 2018, 09:52:24 PM
have a look at this :

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74372-furness-railway-layout-ideas-for-the-lakeside-branch/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74372-furness-railway-layout-ideas-for-the-lakeside-branch/)

interesting plan of coniston station - googling coniston railway gave me type of stock to use, it before my period but nevertheless interesting. sad beeching cut a vital line to cumbrian economy as was in the case of rural areas in the uk
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: dannyboy on November 25, 2018, 10:09:46 PM
Hi Chris and welcome to the forum. Sounds like an interesting layout idea.
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2018, 05:37:46 AM
G'day from Australia, Chris, and welcome to the NGF!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Tank on November 26, 2018, 07:28:18 AM
Welcome to the forum and the interesting introduction.  You sound like you know what you're doing, so I'm looking forward to seeing your progress. :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: RailGooner on November 26, 2018, 07:30:24 AM
Hi Chris and welcome aboard! :wave:

Unfamiliar with Coniston, I followed the link crewearpley40 provided. A very busy little plan. I think this is definitely one to watch. :beers:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
Point city!  ;D
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: chrism on November 26, 2018, 07:53:48 AM
Thanks, guys.

Interesting that Train Waiting is considering Torver - when (if) I get Coniston finished I might work my way down the line one station at a time so I might be doing Torver too.

crewearpley40 - the Coniston Line wasn't actually a Beeching cut. The last freight train was on 30/04/1962, whilst the last timetabled passenger  service was 04/10/1958. There was an enthusiasts' special on 07/08/1961 too.
The demolition gang moved in 16/04/1963, only about a fortnight after Beeching's first report.

As to time period, to start with at least I'll have to make do with what ready to run locos and stock are available so I'm aiming for late-LMS, also because the rather nice loco shed had a fire during WWII and they replaced the pitched roof with a rather naff looking flat one. I may have to use a bit more modeller's licence, at least temporarily, if the locos I want aren't available in LMS livery or I particularly want something that was only BR.

All I have at present is a Black 5 and I've already told the club that that might have to make a light engine appearance on the Millom layout from time to time because when 5's did appear at Coniston, usually on a trip from Blackpool, they had to run light engine to Millom and back for turning. The same will apply if I acquire a Jubilee - of which at least one did get to Coniston. I'm thinking of getting a 3F Jinty 0-6-0 (or two), a 4F 0-6-0 and, hopefully, a Fairburn 2-6-4T. If I stretch the timescale a bit then Ivatt 2-6-2Ts are a possibility  or Fowler ones if I can make them or suitably modify the Ivatt ones.

Although it's not intended to be operated as a "roundy roundy" layout it will be built as such, so I can propel some empty wagons up to the slate wharf (actually a loop in the fiddle yard) and later draw some loaded ones back down to the station. I'll have several loops in the fiddle yard to accommodate trains of full and empty slate wagons, other freight trains, the local passenger train and the Blackpool excursion train. There will also be a turning triangle to simulate the longer locos having gone to Millom for turning before coming back.

The biggest challenge will be the scenery - I haven't found many photos but what I have found should allow me to make a reasonable effort at the station building and goods shed. In the same book that I found the track layout there are drawings of the loco shed and signal box so that helps. The terrain shouldn't be too hard to get at least fairly close, although the site is built on I don't think the terrain itself has been altered much so I can pop up the road with my camera. I'm also hoping to find a suitable location on the other side of the valley to get a photo to use for the backdrop - with a couple of more recent houses removed of course.


All good fun and quite a (re)learning curve but I'm enjoying it so far.

KRs
Chris
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2018, 07:59:44 AM
You seem to have your research well in hand!

Really looking forward to developments.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: chrism on November 26, 2018, 08:03:13 AM
Point city!  ;D

Indeedy  ;)

I'm not quite sure why it was so complex, the only thing I can think of is to be able to accommodate two passenger trains and a freight (or two freight and one passenger) whilst still having a runround loop. Why they felt it necessary to have five crossover sets of points, two between the platform 1 & 2 lines, one between platforms 2 and 3 and two between platform 3 and the runround loop is also unclear, maybe they anticipated circumstance where long trains could foul one or two of them?

At least it's giving me plenty of practice soldering droppers onto N Gauge points  :D


KRs
Chris

Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2018, 08:04:29 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: crewearpley40 on November 26, 2018, 08:53:31 AM
How about a painted backscene coniston
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
Hello Chris, and welcome to our happy throng :wave:
Your plans sound very interesting so I'll be following your progress. Pictures please when there's something to see :camera:
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: chrism on November 26, 2018, 12:01:54 PM
How about a painted backscene coniston

I'm better at photography than I am at painting - mind you, when it's come out of Photoshop it might look like a painting  ;D

There's not much to include in the backdrop TBH, possibly a few houses but mainly the fells above and behind. Coniston village itself is below the station, roughly where a viewer will stand in front of the layout.
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: crewearpley40 on November 26, 2018, 02:34:18 PM
would be a pleasant touch
Title: Re: Lurker Unlurking
Post by: chrism on December 02, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
I've started a new thread in Layout Construction which I plan to update as and when there is progress to report;

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43692.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43692.0)

KRs
Chris