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Title: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 27, 2018, 10:51:49 AM
Specially for @newportnobby .

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0043-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-maroon-45360-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0043-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-maroon-45360-p.asp)

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0042-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-green-45357-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0042-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-green-45357-p.asp)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on April 27, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
Brilliant! Thanks, Mike.
I will be ordering one of each :)

Edit: Ordered ;D
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: acook on April 27, 2018, 11:01:05 PM
I assume the bit over the cab is where they put the calves?
Alan
Have to get one myself
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Bealman on April 27, 2018, 11:46:39 PM
Ooh they're nice, aren't they?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: The Q on April 28, 2018, 05:38:08 AM
The over cab section more likely carried straw bales, ropes to use as halters , brushes, shovels and disinfectant.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: javlinfaw7 on April 28, 2018, 09:25:22 AM
Is that a standard hieght LD van behind the tanker?
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: MKP on April 28, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
Is that a standard hieght LD van behind the tanker?

Yes it is, good spot

Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on April 28, 2018, 01:44:30 PM
Great service from Osborns. Ordered yesterday morning and received this morning. :claphappy:
A tad expensive compared to the price of Oxford models but I had to get them (the Dornaplas one was waayyy too old for my era)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: CliveH on April 29, 2018, 07:48:24 AM
Nice idea, but it's a shame no-one looked at some real ones before designing it. Typically they have the bodies sat above the chassis, and the planking is solid with gaps at head (and occasionally waist) height.

Cheers
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: MKP on April 29, 2018, 09:26:16 AM
They do normally have cutout slots but that was likely to cause issues when printed so were left off.

These were not a copy of a specific one but a mixture of various different ones, a couple of which are below

(http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/resources/products/images-19.jpg)

(http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/resources/products/20180429-091233.png)

Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Bealman on April 29, 2018, 09:47:26 AM
Your post and pics certainly clear things up a bit..... but seriously, in this scale, are we that worried?

Those are really nice models to my eyes, and they  would look great on any layout of the period.  :beers:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 29, 2018, 10:26:18 AM
Nice idea, but it's a shame no-one looked at some real ones before designing it. Typically they have the bodies sat above the chassis, and the planking is solid with gaps at head (and occasionally waist) height.

Cheers


The higher mounted ones are often a body placed on a truck flatbed. Commonly used in areas where the haulier is multi-purpose rather just a livestock mover. They can remove the livestock body and deliver other goods loaded on the flatbed.

Clear in this photo.

http://public.fotki.com/Scottishtruckphotos/english-truckslooki/english_trucks-1/northumbria--the-no/f-f-moffat-cornhill/enl-881-bedford-4x2.html (http://public.fotki.com/Scottishtruckphotos/english-truckslooki/english_trucks-1/northumbria--the-no/f-f-moffat-cornhill/enl-881-bedford-4x2.html)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on April 30, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
An AL digger model

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d017--4-wheeled-front-bucket-loader-unpainted-45378-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d017--4-wheeled-front-bucket-loader-unpainted-45378-p.asp)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 30, 2018, 11:40:22 AM
An AL digger model

[url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d017--4-wheeled-front-bucket-loader-unpainted-45378-p.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d017--4-wheeled-front-bucket-loader-unpainted-45378-p.asp[/url])


These were used for loading MGR wagons from stockpile at Immingham Docks in the 1990s.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on May 05, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
seen at Thornbury show ( Old & new)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-050518001251-6497022.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-050518001242-6496843.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-050518001248-64969999.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-050518001236-64967664.jpeg)

the models are printed with  lasers scanning a tank of photosensitive plastic, and  are almost free of the striations the "ink-jet " style printers produce.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: RailGooner on May 05, 2018, 12:54:14 AM
..
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/941-050518001236-64967664.jpeg[/url])

the models are printed with  lasers scanning a tank of photosensitive plastic, and  are almost free of the striations the "ink-jet " style printers produce.


Ah, so that's how come they're so crisp. :beers:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on May 05, 2018, 08:52:35 AM
Can anyone recall the name of the 'liquid' glazing agent please?
Is it something like Glue 'n' Glaze?
My poor cattle lorry driver has just suffered a bird strike!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: RailGooner on May 05, 2018, 09:32:55 AM
Can anyone recall the name of the 'liquid' glazing agent please?
Is it something like Glue 'n' Glaze?
My poor cattle lorry driver has just suffered a bird strike!

Exactly right. :thumbsup:

https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/scale-plastics/49-glue-n-glaze-5060243900333.html (https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/scale-plastics/49-glue-n-glaze-5060243900333.html)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: madchadbrad on May 05, 2018, 09:46:03 AM
I quite fancy on eof those front bucket loaders!
I'll wait for it to be available ready painted ... and weathered ... like the one in the picture!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on May 05, 2018, 12:18:57 PM
Can anyone recall the name of the 'liquid' glazing agent please?
Is it something like Glue 'n' Glaze?
My poor cattle lorry driver has just suffered a bird strike!


Exactly right. :thumbsup:

[url]https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/scale-plastics/49-glue-n-glaze-5060243900333.html[/url] ([url]https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/scale-plastics/49-glue-n-glaze-5060243900333.html[/url])


Wow! My brain cell must have had a light bulb moment :idea: @daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: daveg on May 05, 2018, 04:10:23 PM
Been out this morning at the Craven Arms exhibition; more of that elsewhere it a bit.

Thanks guys.

Been kindly donated some of the Glue n Glaze by @Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497) of this parish as I have Osborn's Green Goddess that I want to glaze. Well, have a go at!

Dave G
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on May 05, 2018, 09:23:12 PM
Been out this morning at the Craven Arms exhibition; more of that elsewhere it a bit.

Thanks guys.

Been kindly donated some of the Glue n Glaze by @Malc ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497[/url]) of this parish as I have Osborn's Green Goddess that I want to glaze. Well, have a go at!

Dave G


the knack is to get some wooden cocktail sticks and a blob of GnG on a scrap of clear plastic.

get a drop in the stick and put in a corner of the window, and draw ir around the edge of the window

the glue should follow, and then form a film. allow to dry flat and there you are!

if you want windscreen wipers, drop a small section of staple onto the film.

if not happy. wash off with warm water and try again!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on May 08, 2018, 01:09:17 AM
Freshly done

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/941-080518010452-65060362.jpeg)

Finished product

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/941-080518010451-650601040.jpeg)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on May 08, 2018, 09:01:38 AM


12hrs later

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/941-080518085949-65073948.jpeg)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Bob Tidbury on May 08, 2018, 09:18:30 AM
Ive just done the same with my cattle truck ,it really does finish the model off nicely  .
Mourice does most of the printing but he  shares the painting with Micheal.
The models are 3D printed on one of the NEW type of printers done with a laser and printed upside down from a bath of plastic which is why the curves on the models are so smooth.
There are a lot more  models coming out , and they are open to sugestions if you think something would sell well.but might be able to do special commisions if they get time.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Bealman on May 08, 2018, 09:24:14 AM
Cool stuff!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: trkilliman on May 08, 2018, 02:19:58 PM
I think the Bedford is a good type to model, along with their other recent introductions. I don't require a cattle lorry as I made a few of my own a couple of years back, using some B.T. flatbed lorries and some bargain buy P&D Marsh cattle lorry wooden bodies. Amazingly they still produce this whitemetal cattle lorry with a solid lump for the cab, but the wooden body is a good rendition.

The Bedford S type chassis and cab would be interesting on it's own though, allowing you to put on your own prefered type of body.

I have no idea how sales of these laser printed vehicles are going for Osborne's, but they have IMO entered into an area that has tremendous scope. How often we hear people say that the main manufacturer of N vehicles comes up with some oddballs, overlooking some obvious potential models covering the decades.

Some time back in response to their asking for suggestions I mentioned the Bedford T.K.   Now this was introduced around a decade later than the period I model, but hey, they really were everywhere with every type of body fitted.  I look forward to their future releases of vehicles, especially some 1950s vans. The Ford "Pop" type of van springs to mind...was it called a Thames van, a name perpetuated on later models?    But that's just me, many others will have their own wish list that fits in with their period of modelling.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 08, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
I think R Parker do a A35, Standard and Thames light vans
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: bridgiesimon on May 09, 2018, 12:11:06 AM
not vehicular but as an addition to the railway wagons they have developed, a lowmac of some sort, similar to the Airfix/Dapol/Hornby one would be a sure fire winner!! especially as they already have a most suitable traction engine to load onto it.

The only lowmac I know of in N is the N gauge Society kit which is of a 1 off wagon type.

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: daveg on May 09, 2018, 06:39:32 AM
Off on a slight tangent, I think there are plenty of commercial vehicles options available right now.

So, if you're listening Michael and Maurice, I'd love to have more 1950s and 1960s cars. Austins, Hillmans, Fords, Rovers, BMC Farina range, etc.

 :thankyousign:

Dave G
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on May 09, 2018, 09:40:10 AM
@daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087)

Sounds like handy stuff..............

Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on May 20, 2018, 06:32:16 PM
Ive just done the same with my cattle truck ,it really does finish the model off nicely  .
Mourice does most of the printing but he  shares the painting with Micheal.
The models are 3D printed on one of the NEW type of printers done with a laser and printed upside down from a bath of plastic which is why the curves on the models are so smooth.
There are a lot more  models coming out , and they are open to sugestions if you think something would sell well.but might be able to do special commisions if they get time.
Bob Tidbury


This is called stereolithography

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereolithography
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 30, 2018, 07:43:05 PM
New standard height LD van released

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/arch-laser-a3d0050-austin-morris-ld-bowyers-sausages-van-45528-1-p.jpg (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/arch-laser-a3d0050-austin-morris-ld-bowyers-sausages-van-45528-1-p.jpg)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on June 08, 2018, 09:02:14 AM

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/941-080618090136.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66190)

Dixon is back!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: trkilliman on June 08, 2018, 09:11:42 AM
Dixon is back...Evening all.  Showing my age now lol.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on February 21, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
New showman’s engine in 1/148

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-n-scale-vehicles-1209-c.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-n-scale-vehicles-1209-c.asp)

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0056-n-gauge-showmans-traction-engine-painted-47080-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0056-n-gauge-showmans-traction-engine-painted-47080-p.asp)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/941-210219144629-742951943.jpeg)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: daveg on February 21, 2019, 05:03:37 PM
 :thankyousign:

Good to see the range being extended.

I have their road roller, milk floats and green goddess, all bought unpainted..

All take paint very nicely and add extra character to the layout.

Dave
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on March 01, 2019, 04:29:18 AM
https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-commer-walk-thru-unpainted-47118-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-commer-walk-thru-unpainted-47118-p.asp)

Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on March 01, 2019, 04:30:09 AM
https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-commer-walk-thru-unpainted-47118-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-commer-walk-thru-unpainted-47118-p.asp)

Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: madchadbrad on March 01, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
Their latest Showman’s Steam Traction Engine is delightful!
Pictured here with the latest liveried version of the BMC LD van
https://flic.kr/p/2dzu5MB
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2019, 10:06:14 AM
Specially for @newportnobby .

[url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0043-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-maroon-45360-p.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0043-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-maroon-45360-p.asp[/url])

[url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0042-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-green-45357-p.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d0042-n-gauge-bedford-s-cattle-lorry-green-45357-p.asp[/url])


Thanks for the edit, Nick @Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941) but see.............
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41230.msg505290#msg505290 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41230.msg505290#msg505290)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models = Milk van
Post by: Railwaygun on April 24, 2019, 12:36:14 PM
new electric milk van

GM 392 Gaugemaster StreetScooter EV Van Milk & More

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/gm-392-gaugemaster-streetscooter-ev-van-milk--more-47326-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/gm-392-gaugemaster-streetscooter-ev-van-milk--more-47326-p.asp)


Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: RailGooner on April 24, 2019, 12:57:33 PM
Is the StreetScooter an Arch Laser model, or a GM commission of the Lemke Mini model? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 24, 2019, 01:26:36 PM
Is the StreetScooter an Arch Laser model, or a GM commission of the Lemke Mini model? :hmmm:

It is the Gaugemaster/Lemke commission available from other retailers too.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Railwaygun on April 24, 2019, 04:45:08 PM
oops - I slipped up there!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: RailGooner on April 24, 2019, 05:05:33 PM
No use crying over spilt milk. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Arch Laser - Ransome petrol-electric A Frame crane
Post by: Railwaygun on May 14, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
More details to incorporate yet but first views of the in house 3D printed  N scale Ransome petrol-electric A Frame crane. Mike has yet to add the head shield, more jib detail, the cabling and hook. It is planned as an unpainted modelThis model is inspired by the re-release by Peco of twin packs of the BD type containers.#
RegardsMaurice PearceOsborns Models Ltd.

Attachments:
a frame crane.JPG: https://groups.io/g/ngauge/attachment/4076/0//a frame crane.JPG
a frame crane.2JPG.JPG: https://groups.io/g/ngauge/attachment/4076/1//a frame crane.2JPG.JPG
a frame crane.3JPG.JPG: https://groups.io/g/ngauge/attachment/4076/2//a frame crane.3JPG.JPG
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: MKP on May 30, 2019, 01:44:48 PM
Latest picture:

(https://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/resources/products/img_20190529_171413.jpg)
Title: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models - new Thames Trader tipper+Tanker
Post by: Railwaygun on February 20, 2020, 04:01:14 PM
new Thames Trader tipper+Tanker (3D)

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-n-scale-vehicles--figures-1209-c.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-n-scale-vehicles--figures-1209-c.asp)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: madchadbrad on February 20, 2020, 04:05:46 PM
Great!
Can’t wait for some liveried versions .... plus box van version ... and a tanker version of the Bedford S-type!
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D low loader
Post by: Railwaygun on March 22, 2020, 09:20:44 AM
https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d073-n-gauge-thames-trader-low-loader-48801-p.asp (https://www.osbornsmodels.com/arch-laser-a3d073-n-gauge-thames-trader-low-loader-48801-p.asp)
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: madchadbrad on March 22, 2020, 06:33:18 PM
Currently in yellow .... like the  BT Models OO scale version ... which has a load consisting of two large cable drums .... this one looks good with the steamroller. (Available separately) how did they roll it on to the flatbed  ... did the rear wheels detach?  Seems like rather a heavy load for what was generally quite a “light duty” tractor unit.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: RailGooner on March 22, 2020, 06:54:11 PM
I think the wheels come off the prototype trailer.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: bridgiesimon on March 22, 2020, 07:32:52 PM
Looks good but I would agree that its posdibly too heavy a load for the trailer to hold let alone the lorry to actually haul.

Added to my future requirements list though!

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: bridgiesimon on March 22, 2020, 07:36:28 PM
Just found this one though -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6571901165 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6571901165)

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: ScottishModeller on March 22, 2020, 07:49:12 PM
Hi all,

The low loader looks good - nice model.

It appears to be the same type as the NCB ones and, if it is, then it was rated at 25T loaded.

The Thames Trader came with a variety of power units so it could be one with the right power for the load.

Thanks
Phil H
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Hiawatha on March 22, 2020, 09:27:31 PM
Yes, the rear axle was detachable. I only knew this design from Corgi toys but they were based on real low loaders from a company named Carrimore Six-Wheelers Ltd.

(http://commercial-motor.cdn.netcopy.thompsonjames.co.uk/issues/6th-january-1940/35.jpg?size=x&token=a9b2bb8ba82c0a767ae74073f46c0547)

from: http://archive.commercialmotor.com/page/6th-january-1940/35 (http://archive.commercialmotor.com/page/6th-january-1940/35)


And the lorry may seem to be underpowered for a steamroller load but don’t forget that such vehicles had a speed limit of about 20 mph.
Title: Re: Arch Laser - new 3D printed models
Post by: Rabbitaway on March 22, 2020, 10:00:42 PM
I can remember from the 80's we used to use a haulage company with an old school low loader. One of my jobs was to help the driver with two very heavy duty hydraulic jacks to lift the rear of the trailer so we could roll away the two sets of double wheels, lower the trailer again and run off the piece of plant. A realy slow job because the jacks took for ever to move the trailer up and down, hand operated.

A bit different from the trailer shown above as each double wheel set had a single pin with a big nut and R pin
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