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Title: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 11, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
With the final Oxford deliveries to retailers just about over for 2017, I thought I would start a new topic for the 2018 period. 2018 is the 25th anniversary of the founding of Oxford Diecast although the N range is only about 10 years old.

A major event in October 2017 related to a changed role for the Oxford founder and part owner – Lyndon Davies.  His daughter Eloise Davies took over the Managing Director’s role at Oxford Diecast when Mr. Davies became CEO of Hornby Hobbies. Hornby intends buying a minority stake (49%) in LCD Enterprises the holding company for Oxford Diecast Limited. There is a lot of speculation about convergence (and divergence) in the LCD and Hornby ranges, especially where they overlap in model trains, model road vehicles and model buildings. Time will reveal the actual changes planned.

The list of announced but not yet delivered N scale items is below. With the exception of NMB004 (announced in January 2017) all these were announced in June or October 2017. This time last year there were 6 more models on the waiting list than now.

NAP004          Austin Princess (Late) - Black/Royal Claret  del. May 2018
NBSA008       Motorbike & Sidecar  -RAF Blue. Delivered May 2018
NCHT001       Churchill Tank  - Kingforce * delivered Feb 2018
NCOR3002     Cortina MkIII  - Daytona Yellow  delivered June 2018
NCT006         Citroen 2CV Charleston  - Two Tone Grey delivered June 2018
NDEF002       Land Rover Defender  - Royal Mail  delivered July 2018
NDSC002      Daimler Dingo  - 10th Mounted Rifles delivered June 2018
NFT022         Ford Transit Mk5  - Network Rail Response Unit  delivered March 2018
NHI001         Hillman Imp  - Willow Green delivered Jan 2018*
NLAN188020 Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas  - REME del. May 2018
NLRL001       Land Rover Lightweight  - United Nations delivered Jan 2018*
NLRL002       Land Rover Lightweight - Military Police delivered July 2018*
NMA002       Mercedes Ambulance  - London July 2018
NMGB002     MGB Roadster - Pale Primrose delivered June 2018
NMB004       Mercedes Actros D-TEC Combitrailer Trailer  - John Mitchell delivered Jan 2018
NMB006       Mercedes Actros Curtainside  - Sparks  delivered July 2018
NNMN002    New Mini -  Pepper White. del. May 2018
NNR005      New Routemaster  - Propercorn  delivered June 2018
NPB008       Commer PB van - Royal Mail delivered May 2018
NSFE007     Scania Pump Ladder Surrey  - F & R. delivered May 2018
NSHL03TK   Scania Highline Tanker  - Eddie Stobart * delivered June 2018
NTCAB005   Scania T Cab Tipper - Tinnelly delivered June 2018
NTRAC004   Fordson Tractor  - Matt Grey   delivered Feb 2018
NTRAIL006  Mobile Trailer  - Buns on Wheels delivered Sept 2018
NVOL4003   Volvo FH4 Curtainside  - Knowles  delivered July 2018
NWFL001    Weymann Fanfare – Leyland - Southdown* delivered May 2018

* = first release of new tooling

The gaps in range continue to exist for all sorts of periods for cars and light vans, medium weight trucks, some useful but unusual bodies like livestock carriers, refuse collection vehicles, and just about anything you can think of. Even with upwards of 350 vehicles already available the range is never going to satisfy every wish.

The current range appears here with many of the newer announcements near the top of the page:-

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148)

The next planned announcements will be made around the time of the London Toyfair which starts on 23 January 2018.

As before I would like to mention that I have no formal relationship with Oxford Diecast other than as a customer, and as a source of information to them for new models I would like to see made. I do try to keep abreast of what is happening at Oxford Diecast, and report it here. Sometimes my travelling schedule means I am a bit later than some other parts of the internet with updates.

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Stuart Down Under on December 12, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
Why don't Oxford make an FX-3 Taxi - the iconic railway forecourt vehicle from 1948-1968, the entire BR steam era???
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 12, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
Why don't Oxford make an FX-3 Taxi - the iconic railway forecourt vehicle from 1948-1968, the entire BR steam era???

Like you I would buy a fleet of the things.

Jerry
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Stuart Down Under on December 12, 2017, 11:06:17 AM
Hi Jerry,

I have started lobbying - NGS, Parker and Osbourne so far. i reckon there's a crowdfunding project here somewhere!! I promise to buy at least 10!!
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on December 12, 2017, 11:30:32 AM
An Fx3 would be fine but I would prefer a Beardmore
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1970-121217113021.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=59201)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 12, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Why don't Oxford make an FX-3 Taxi - the iconic railway forecourt vehicle from 1948-1968, the entire BR steam era???

Good idea for N. Oxford tend to be scaling down 1/43 or 1/76 models to N to economise on some of the research work and design cost for the much smaller N market.. There is an FX3 taxi in 1/76 but made by Classix, now part of Bachmann.  Before anyone picks me up on it, there have been some N models not in the larger scale ranges - all the Foden trucks, many of the buses and coaches - though there is a curious link to the Corgi range for all but two of the buses and the Foden trucks. Oxford's Product Development Manager, Adrienne Fuller, was previously with Corgi in the same sort of role! Perhaps this explains why the Oxford Utility bus has the similarly awful radiator that appears on the Corgi one.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Stuart Down Under on December 12, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
The Beardmore would also be nice, and it would be great for variety, but the FX-3 was the vehicle of the day, and it is more likely to have the volume for a viable diecast. Maybe a Beardmore white metal kit or 3-d print?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 16, 2018, 07:37:15 PM
Three new items in the batch arriving at retailers now:-

NHI001         Hillman Imp  - Willow Green
NLRL001       Land Rover Lightweight  - United Nations
NMB004       Mercedes Actros D-TEC Combitrailer Trailer  - John Mitchell

The Hillman Imp and the Lightweight Land Rover are completely new, and the John Mitchel Volvo tractor with the D-Tec container trailer and Samskip container is a new combination of existing shapes.

Oxford will be making their next new items announcements over the coming weekend prior to their attendance at the London Toy Fair.

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 16, 2018, 08:58:24 PM
Just ordered the Imp and the Actros container lorry from Hattons

Interesting to see how good the Imp will be



Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bluedepot on January 16, 2018, 09:46:52 PM
might get the imp. knew someone who had one.

nothing else very interesting to me.

when do they announce new products?


tim
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 16, 2018, 10:25:52 PM

when do they announce new products?


tim

New products will be announced at the London Toyfair on 23 January, and probably the evening before on the members only Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook Group. Further announcements are made early June and early October.

Delivery timescales are sometimes long if problems are encountered, but all the January 2017 items have now been delivered, and the Imp and Land Rover were June 2017 announcements.

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bluedepot on January 16, 2018, 10:46:40 PM
ok cheers for info I'll look out for new models then

Tim
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: daveg on January 17, 2018, 07:30:03 AM
Ordered a couple of Imps despite there being only one colour on offer.

Good price from these people (will have to wait till stock comes in) and free shipping:

https://www.automodels.co.uk/nhi001-hillman-imp-willow-green.html (https://www.automodels.co.uk/nhi001-hillman-imp-willow-green.html)

I'll add the info to Bargain Basement.

Dave G

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: railsquid on January 17, 2018, 08:29:47 AM
Oooh, a Hillman Imp. With that, some old Minis, 2CVs, classic Beetles, the Cortina and maybe a 1:160 Volvo or two I can almost recreate the teacher's car park at my 1980's high school.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Railwaygun on January 19, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
Ordered a couple of Imps despite there being only one colour on offer.

Good price from these people (will have to wait till stock comes in) and free shipping:

https://www.automodels.co.uk/nhi001-hillman-imp-willow-green.html (https://www.automodels.co.uk/nhi001-hillman-imp-willow-green.html)

I'll add the info to Bargain Basement.

Dave G


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No VAT on their prices till checkout, BUT free p/p.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: daveg on January 19, 2018, 06:02:32 PM
My order through Hatton's (for example) would be £8.00 + £2 shipping minimum so £10 at least.

Automodels total cost is £7.80

Quite pleased.  :)

Dave G

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 19, 2018, 07:28:11 PM
Imp and Actros D Tec container trailer delivered today from Hattons

These did come to about the same cost all in as Automodels as the Actros was cheaper

The Imp seems an OK model. The Actros cab does look a little over scale but I do need to check against the dimensions of the real vehicle. Modern tracks are large so it may be fine

Still a bit confused on the models Oxford decide to produce when you see how quickly Hattons sell the obvious ones the market want like the Cartina, low loader and D Tec but they produce nonsense like the 1950s Princess


Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 22, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
Eleven new items announced this evening.

NCHT002 Churchill Tank 1st Canadian Army Brg. Dieppe 1942 - released October 2018
NCOR3003 Cortina MkIII Sebring Red - released September 2018
NFDE008 Ford 400E Van Southdown Q3/2018
NFT012 Ford Transit Mk5 Stobart Rail Low Roof Q3/2018
NGG001 Green Goddess AFS Q3/2018
NMB007 Mercedes Actros Curtainside McGawn Bros Q3/2018
NNR006 New Routemaster LT50 General Q3/2018
NSDF001 Shelvoke & Drewry Freightlifter British Rail (Western) Q3/2018
NSEA002 Burlingham Seagull Stratford Blue -released July 2018
NTCAB007CC Scania T Cab Box Trailer Coca Cola Xmas Q4/2018   
NTRAIL004 Mobile Trailer Walls Q3/2018

The Shelvoke & Drewry Freightlifter and the Green Goddess fire appliance are new tooling.


Extra military item has appeared in the catalogue:-

NTIL004 Austin Tilly Light AA Brigade Q3/2018
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 22, 2018, 08:32:53 PM
Very disappointing with regards to new tooling

As I said in my last post there seems little logic in the choices of odd balls when there are lots of 00 options to shrink that are clearly going to be better sellers

 :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: gc4946 on January 22, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
Out of this lot I'm sure the Green Goddess will be popular.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: MKP on January 23, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
you can already get yourself a green goddess in N

(http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/arch-laser-a3d0011-n-gauge-green-goddess-painted-1-43524-p[ekm]500x372[ekm].jpg)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on January 23, 2018, 10:58:25 AM
Osborns is a bit of a mix of 4x4 and 4x2 features light in the Bedford S cabs position and hose in the RL's
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Stuart Down Under on January 23, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
Oxford is just another company that used to provide great product for us N-gaugers, but has turned away because of the greater market opportunities available in OO and aviation (if only some of those civil types could be made in 1:144). Their involvement with Hornby is likely to see us left even further out in the cold. I remember a couple of years ago getting really excited about their future release programme, with e-mail reminders set up on Hattons to be sure not to miss out when stock arrived. But this year only 2 new castings, the forklift, which some of us may buy, and the Goddess, which is already available elsewhere. Not worth the wait, although the Stratford Blue Seagull will be nice.  From my point of view, last year the agricultural trailers were something of a minority interest (the tractors too, although three of them make an attractive load on a bogie bolster, if you can find one!). Just wish they would produce an FX3!! So sad.
 :(
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Railwaygun on January 23, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
new models

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/941-230118110831-60914408.png)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Railwaygun on January 23, 2018, 11:14:03 AM
you can already get yourself a green goddess in N

([url]http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/arch-laser-a3d0011-n-gauge-green-goddess-painted-1-43524-p[/url][ekm]500x372[ekm].jpg)



2 other versions from Osbornes

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/60/941-230118111827-609232457.png)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 23, 2018, 11:14:48 AM
But this year only 2 new castings, the forklift, which some of us may buy, and the Goddess, which is already available elsewhere.  :(

Worth remembering that Oxford make 3 announcements per year so one more in late May and another in late September. Last year they announced 7 new tool items at the end of May. Understand some folk are disappointed, but I am not so pessimistic about any Hornby influence. Oxford cannot afford to compromise itself whilst Hornby is only a minority shareholder, and unless Oxford's CEO succeeds in rescuing Hornby, he has the right to buy back Hornby's 49% share in the Oxford holding company.


Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 23, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
When it comes to N gauge Oxford seem to not "get it"

They delivery the right models such as the modern trucks, normal cars and farm equipment. They sell based on how quickly the big retailers sell their stock by looking at the numbers drop on their web sites. Yet they do not seem to learn from this when they go back to their odd ball releases again.

If they reflected their approach to make popular models that people would buy more than one in different colours as they do in 00 they would sell more. The usual statement that the N gauge market is small therefore they limit the numbers of models provided is made significantly worse by not providing that the market would buy more off.

   
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on January 23, 2018, 01:31:38 PM
When the VW Transporter was released in 4 variations and each in 3 colours I was hopeful of more , there were other vehicles that could have had the same treatment . It may be that this model was unsuccessful and they then reverted
to their usual release policy
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: trkilliman on January 23, 2018, 03:11:08 PM
When I read they were releasing a Green Goddess I was more than a bit surprised. Perhaps they had this well advanced before Osborne's 3D printed one...or maybe that's why they have released one to go head to head?

Several have referred to Oxford releasing odd balls, me included. Whilst you can never satisfy all folk, I have to wonder if they undertake customer survey's to arrive at their choice of models.

Osborne's did ask for suggestions of future models on their website, and I suggested a Bedford T.K.  Back in the day they were everywhere, with so many different types of body. They do not fit the period I model, but hey, I'm sure their introduction would please many modellers.

As I said you will never please everyone, but there are so many models they could / could have released.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: railsquid on January 23, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
In case anyone from Oxford is reading, a couple of years ago I stood in front of the comparatively large N gauge vehicle display in a model shop with a wallet full of ready cash available for anything which ran on British roads between say 1970 and 1985, and came away with jusr a BR Commer truck and a 2CV, as everything else was either ridiculously modern or suitable for a 1950s farm layout which had just been overrun by the military.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on January 23, 2018, 04:27:05 PM
mega missed opportunity not getting the Cola Christmas lorry out for Christmas!

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 23, 2018, 04:47:35 PM
mega missed opportunity not getting the Cola Christmas lorry out for Christmas!

Best wishes
Simon

I don't think it will be late. A large number of 1/76 Cola vehicles were produced for 2015, 2016 and 2017, and the N gauge is for Xmas 2018.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on January 23, 2018, 04:58:34 PM
yeah for maybe 2019, they are not the quickest to produce stuff hehe.

not really my era but will get one anyway, when ever it is released!
Simon
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: daffy on January 23, 2018, 05:31:03 PM
Whenever the Coca Cola truck arrives, I'll be placing an order with my favourite seller. Just have to decide who that is! :hmmm:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 23, 2018, 10:37:06 PM
Just looking at the 00 releases on their email makes their approach to n gauge look at odds

Lots of really useful models over most earas, particularly cars

Very frustrating when you are trying to populate a layout with realistic vehicles not lumps of misshapen white metal

Looks like I will have to continue buying 1/150 from Japan but these are also now thin on the ground these days

 
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on January 23, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
I agree, looking at the oo range is depressing!!

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: RailGooner on January 23, 2018, 11:34:24 PM
I too get a bit frustrated with some of OD's releases in N. Or should that be the missing releases in N?

They might not be making all the models that we want. But they must be making the N models that sell, or surely they wouldn't make any(!)? And I'll settle for that.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 24, 2018, 08:17:41 AM
I understand that one of the major issues nowadays is licensing. Apparently in the motor vehicle world licences are very specific as to scale, shape, colours and logos. Particularly in the case of Oxford Diecast they have lost a copyright case which led to them being prevented from selling their Chipperfields range of models, and they are clearly not going that way again. Licensing takes time and money. Lyndon Davies (CEO of Oxford's holding company) admitted on Monday evening that the first issue of the crew cab Ford Transit tipper in 1/76 scale is held up by licensing issues. That is a Ford licence and a Stobart Rail licence. They will be agreed eventually, and both companies will want to inspect the final samples before approval. Now spread that back across a market one tenth of the size, and the scope is much more limited for producing n vehicles. The licencing for the "Propercorn" New Routemaster bus adds £1 to the RRP on an £8.50 model. Older vehicles are also subject to licensing, with the ownership of the "intellectual property" sometimes in the hands of people who no longer have a direct interest in vehicle manufacture, or whose whereabouts is obscure until after production has been completed. Ford licensed Greenlight in the USA to produce some of their modern US models in 1/43 and 1/64 scale, but will not licence to other makers in other scales.

I think that Oxford is missing out on some sales in N by not making some of the models which have been popular in 1/76. But the licensing in N will take the same time and cost the same (probably) for an N version, and Oxford do understand the relationship between volume and selling price.  Very few of the N range have sold out - mainly modern trucks, quite a lot of the buses and coaches, and some of the Transit vans. These are bought by collectors as much as by railway modellers. The Green Goddess and the Freightlifter have both been popular in 1/76 and are now going to be produced in N. A third colour on the Cortina Mk3 is squarely aimed at the NGS Carflat market. The military range is spanning more than just the model railway market.

This weeks Oxford Diecast announcement covered 5 scales and 122 models. 11 were in N which is probably a fair reflection of the N market proportion. After Hot Wheels/Matchbox they are probably the most prolific model vehicle producer today measured by the variety in the range, and probably the biggest producer of constant scale vehicles.

Looking at other road vehicle ranges across the world it is hard to find anyone in N with a comprehensive all eras range, and apart from Oxford Diecast not one introducing ten new shapes each year.

I know I sound a bit "glass half full" but I do not see anyone else coming to the market to augment or replace them, and without them we would not have a chance every 4 months to review what they are not making. It seems that the offer is still open for anyone who wants to commission a sure-fire winner direct from Oxford to sell themselves, or persuade Oxford to make it.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10919.msg115520#msg115520 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10919.msg115520#msg115520)

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: emjaybee on January 24, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
My thank you button's done a runner so...


...THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: crepello on January 24, 2018, 10:20:32 AM
I've ordered 3 x red Mark 3 Cortinas for the Carflats. More plain colours please--and for the older Transits vans.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Bob Tidbury on January 24, 2018, 12:26:05 PM
My thankyou button must have gone to visit emjaybee,s  so  :thankyousign:
 woodbury22uk  from me
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: RailGooner on January 24, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
My thankyou button must have gone to visit emjaybee,s  so  :thankyousign:
 woodbury22uk  from me
Bob Tidbury


Mine too! It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

 :thankyousign: @woodbury22uk (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1599)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: daffy on January 24, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
Ah well, it's always nicer to properly say thanks, so thanks Mike for the details about the licensing and its ramifications. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Paddy on January 24, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
Personally I still think Ivo Peters' Bentley in N gauge would sell very well.

Paddy
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 24, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
Personally I still think Ivo Peters' Bentley in N gauge would sell very well.

Paddy

They could paint the Princess blue - near enough when viewed from 10 feet away!  :no:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on January 24, 2018, 10:10:04 PM
Mike

Thanks for the licensing explanation, this goes a long way to explaining the OD approach, was not aware that a license is required for different scales.

OD must have a good relationship with JLR based on the number of models in 00, hopefully a few more of their modern vehicles will appear in N


 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Railwaygun on January 24, 2018, 10:40:59 PM
My thankyou button must have gone to visit emjaybee,s  so  :thankyousign:
 woodbury22uk  from me
Bob Tidbury


Mine too! It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

 :thankyousign: @woodbury22uk ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1599[/url])


Robomod has just repaired this
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: trkilliman on January 24, 2018, 10:44:56 PM
Same here, I wasn't aware of the licensing hurdle.

I was aware of the Chipperfields situation.

Maybe for some circus and fairground vehicles they could come up with a fictitious couple of names/liveries, and use some of the vehicles already in production. As an example both Circuses and Fairgrounds used the AEC Matador, although often modified for their specific new uses. There is also scope for each beyond vehicles.

Anyway,  thank you for your explanation, it makes things a bit more understandable.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 24, 2018, 11:18:18 PM
Same here, I wasn't aware of the licensing hurdle.

I was aware of the Chipperfields situation.

Maybe for some circus and fairground vehicles they could come up with a fictitious couple of names/liveries, and use some of the vehicles already in production. As an example both Circuses and Fairgrounds used the AEC Matador, although often modified for their specific new uses. There is also scope for each beyond vehicles.

Anyway,  thank you for your explanation, it makes things a bit more understandable.

When Hornby launched their 1/76 Skaledale building range they also had a selection of cars and vans (from BT Models and Oxford Diecast) and Circus buildings and vehicles labelled as "Skaledale Circus" which were all from Oxford. These were duplicates of the Chipperfields range in different colours and Skaldale lettering.  Then Hornby bought Corgi and the regular vehicles were replaced for a very short period by Corgi's 1/72 scale vehicles, before the whole of the circus and other vehicle ranges were culled. I think there is scope for some circus vehicles in N, but what would be useful would be for Oxford to get the shrink ray on the Bedford TK which formed the mainstay of the Skaledale Circus trucks. The Showman's range which Oxford make in 1/76 has not seen many additions over the past two years, and those which have been introduced tend to be commemorative models for the annual Dorset Steam Fair.

There was only one Chipperfields vehicle in N as an Albion Horsebox for "Hungarian Spotted Stallions".
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on January 24, 2018, 11:25:50 PM
Despite my comments of frustration, i do appreciate the difference that OD have made and have a large collection of their models, regularly expanding - defo on the Christmas lorry, the forklift, red cortina and the E400 van (different liveries as they are released).

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Train Waiting on January 25, 2018, 09:08:39 AM
Many thanks, Mike for that fascinating post.

I like the Oxford Diecast vehicles very much indeed and have several on my layout.

Your post made me stop to think what a serious business it is to allow me to have such jolly good fun with these lovely little models.  I am grateful to all those who negotiate the horrors of intellectual property rights* on our behalf.

My 'Hoveringham' Foden tipper cost a fiver.  Of that £1.00 was VAT.  I imagine Hattons got around £1.25-£1.50 for all the work involved in selling it to me (which they did with their usual courtesy and efficiency).  That suggests that Oxford got about £2.50 for all the bother of making this model.

I think we are so very fortunate to have this excellent range available at such terrific prices.  I'm sure that we all have our own favourites from the '00' range that we would like Oxford to manufacture in British 'N' gauge (mine is the 'Blower' Bentley!) but we have to be aware of the commercial realities for the company.  Or, as you say, commission our own batch.

Thanks again for the informative post.  And thank you, as well, to Oxford Diecast and Hattons. 

*I've done a fair bit of this in my time and the only fun bit is when the Trade Mark certificates arrived in the post.  The hours and hours before that are like bicycling through a bog.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on January 25, 2018, 10:06:11 AM
hours and hours before that are like bicycling through a bog.



@Train Waiting (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222)
With or without a snorkel, John?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Hiawatha on January 25, 2018, 10:30:44 AM
I understand that one of the major issues nowadays is licensing. Apparently in the motor vehicle world licences are very specific as to scale, shape, colours and logos. Particularly in the case of Oxford Diecast they have lost a copyright case which led to them being prevented from selling their Chipperfields range of models, and they are clearly not going that way again. Licensing takes time and money.

@woodbury22uk (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1599)
Do you know when this copyright case was? I couldn't find anything on the WWW, was this longer than ten years ago? There have been some interesting court decisions since 2007 ...
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Railwaygun on January 25, 2018, 11:05:50 AM
I understand that one of the major issues nowadays is licensing. Apparently in the motor vehicle world licences are very specific as to scale, shape, colours and logos. Particularly in the case of Oxford Diecast they have lost a copyright case which led to them being prevented from selling their Chipperfields range of models, and they are clearly not going that way again. Licensing takes time and money.

@woodbury22uk ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1599[/url])
Do you know when this copyright case was? I couldn't find anything on the WWW, was this longer than ten years ago? There have been some interesting court decisions since 2007 ...


try searching for Chippendales?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 25, 2018, 11:56:22 AM
I understand that one of the major issues nowadays is licensing. Apparently in the motor vehicle world licences are very specific as to scale, shape, colours and logos. Particularly in the case of Oxford Diecast they have lost a copyright case which led to them being prevented from selling their Chipperfields range of models, and they are clearly not going that way again. Licensing takes time and money.

@woodbury22uk ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1599[/url])
Do you know when this copyright case was? I couldn't find anything on the WWW, was this longer than ten years ago? There have been some interesting court decisions since 2007 ...


Actually I have misremembered it as a copyright case. It was an infringement of trade mark case O-054-11 17th February 2011. I have a copy of the decision if you would like to have it.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Hiawatha on January 25, 2018, 01:32:44 PM
Yes, that would be interesting. Thank you!
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcementsand
Post by: Train Waiting on January 25, 2018, 01:42:26 PM
Thank you for this.

I read it at lunchtime and it was very interesting.

I note that it was decided that Oxford Diecast did not act in bad faith and it was awarded costs.

Some of the evidence led by the Applicant was 'interesting'.

I get the impression that Oxford tried to do the right thing but was still 'caught out'.

Thanks again.

John
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Hiawatha on January 26, 2018, 10:26:40 AM
I understand that one of the major issues nowadays is licensing. Apparently in the motor vehicle world licences are very specific as to scale, shape, colours and logos. Particularly in the case of Oxford Diecast they have lost a copyright case which led to them being prevented from selling their Chipperfields range of models, and they are clearly not going that way again. Licensing takes time and money. Lyndon Davies (CEO of Oxford's holding company) admitted on Monday evening that the first issue of the crew cab Ford Transit tipper in 1/76 scale is held up by licensing issues.


That Chipperfields case (to be found here: https://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-challenge-decision-results/o05411.pdf (https://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-challenge-decision-results/o05411.pdf)) was interesting, although why Oxford Diecast have registered Chipperfields as a trademark for toys in the first place - also a bit dodgy, as were the claims of the other party ...



But that wasn't what I meant with the "interesting court decisions" since 2007.

I don't know how well known this case is in the UK but in Germany "Opel vs Autec" was widely discussed in the model industry. The billion-euro company Adam Opel AG (German sister marque of Vauxhall - then part of General Motors, now Peugeot-Citroλn) suing the small Autec AG who produced (or distributed) a plastic r/c Opel Astra without Opel's authorization.
That case went up to the European Court of Justice in 2007 (http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=65459&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=1050741 (http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=65459&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=1050741)) and the German Bundesgerichtshof in 2010 (http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Art=pm&Datum=2010&Sort=3&nr=50551&pos=1&anz=10 (http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Art=pm&Datum=2010&Sort=3&nr=50551&pos=1&anz=10), only in German) which ultimately decided against Opel (!). (Even though the Opel logo was also registered as a trademark for toys, not just full-size cars.)

Synopsis: http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/bgh-decides-in-opel-toy-car-case-opel.html (http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/bgh-decides-in-opel-toy-car-case-opel.html)

This decision was widely publicized in the German model press, with managers/owners of model car brands saying that this would make negotiations with the car companies much easier or entirely unnecessary. Of course, this has only relevance for the EU, and if you want to sell your models in the USA you would probably risk another lawsuit there with maybe a different outcome. But Oxford Diecast produces predominantly for the UK (with the scales 1:76 and 1:148) and European market with 1:43 (which isn't that widely collected in the USA).
I probably see it too simple but I thought that all this model licensing stuff was a thing of the past (at least in Europe). In the past ten years some 1:43 model makers have begun producing models that are not licensed by the car companies, and they are still in business (e.g. "Matrix" who have also stated that the car designs are only protected for 25 years and that older cars can be produced freely).
I can't see why Oxford would still negotiate licenses - if they were producing promo models for the car makers I could understand, as they order huge quantities and also can provide CAD data of the real cars so that the models are released at the same time as the full-size prototype.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 26, 2018, 11:33:43 AM
There have also been court cases in the USA regarding model trains (BNSF was one of the railroads I think) and these found against the railroad in general. But case law does not preclude a trade mark, registered design owner, or other intellectual property owner bringing another case.  The cost of defending such a case brought by an Opel sized outfit could bankrupt a small firm before the case was even heard.

Disrespect for intellectual property of a car or transport company is probably not a smart way to gain the confidence and respect of other players in the full size vehicle market where co-operative licensing has seen Oxford conclude fruitful agreements with prestigious firms like Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Jaguar/Land Rover, Aston Martin,  JCB, Coca-Cola and many more.

Back in the 1980s I had a warning letter from a British-based international airline because I had reproduced one of their advertisements on the side of a printed kit for a Paris bus. It was simpler for me to change and exclude the advertisement and avoid the hassle.

I think this is a potential minefield, and some companies take the Oxford route, and others take a chance.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: railsquid on January 26, 2018, 11:51:36 AM
Please don't tell me that out there some obscure company with laywers on speed dial still retains the intellectual property rights e.g. for the Austin Allegro  :confused1:  :confused2:

(Not that I'm demanding anyone goes out and makes one at their own risk, of course)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on January 26, 2018, 01:06:16 PM
Please don't tell me that out there some obscure company with laywers on speed dial still retains the intellectual property rights e.g. for the Austin Allegro  :confused1:  :confused2:

(Not that I'm demanding anyone goes out and makes one at their own risk, of course)

Know what you mean about the Allegro. Unremarkably Oxford's is licensed by the British Motor Heritage Limited and Nanjing Automobile (Group) Corporation who have the IPO rights to many of the old BMC and Leyland designs. Surely you would not want anyone to be "passing off" the Allegro as their own concept car, would you?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: daffy on January 26, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
Memory jogged at the mention of the Allegro.....

One day, about the early 1980's I visited the familial home for a get-together. Dad had a new car.
Sis had a new car.
Older brother had a new car.
All parked in a line outside the house.
All the same colour - beige.
All Austin Allegro's.

 :goggleeyes: :o :confused1: :worried:

It's at times like that that I wonder if I was a foundling. :D

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on February 14, 2018, 03:03:28 PM
Two new items for imminent release:-

NCHT001 Churchill Tank - Kingforce
NTRAC004 Fordson Tractor - Matt grey

The tank is the first release of this casting.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on February 17, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
The new Oxford Diecast catalogue is now available to view or download on the Oxford Website. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/FEB-MAY_18.pdf?515817286782828110

The N items are on pages 31- 37, and page 43.

An extra item has been slipped into the Military range which is NTIL004 Austin Tilly Light AA Brigade Q3/2018.  The NBSA008 BSA motorbike and sidecar - RAF Blue is not illustrated in the catalogue although not yet released unless I have missed it.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on February 18, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
Another as-yet-undelivered  item missing from the new catalogue is:-

NVOL4003   Volvo FH4 Curtainside  - Knowles
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 28, 2018, 05:20:38 PM
A new rail related item is due for delivery over the next few days:-

NFT022         Ford Transit Mk5  - Network Rail Response Unit


On Sunday there may also be the long awaited announcement of a special Carflat range including Mk1 Cortina, Mk1 Escort, Mk1 Transit van and Citroen HY van in “Poisson d’Avril” livery. :-)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Richard G Dallimore on March 28, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
Why Sunday, Have I missed something?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on March 28, 2018, 05:43:57 PM
Mk1 Escort? What? When? Where?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 28, 2018, 05:56:06 PM
What have I started?  :no: Just my bit of April fun.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: bridgiesimon on March 28, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
Hook, line and sinker!!!

Well done there

Simon
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 28, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
Your a bit early for that anouncment you should have left it untill Sunday  .But its a shame its not true I would love to see a Mk 1 Cortina in sea green and a Mk 1 Escort in two tone Gold and Bronze
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 30, 2018, 09:37:41 PM
Two new releases for week commencing 7 May 2018.

NPB008     Commer PB van - Royal Mail
NWFL001.    Weymann Fanfare coach  - Leyland - Southdown

A further round of new item announcements is planned for the end of May/early June.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on May 25, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Next batch of new items now released:-


NAP004            Austin Princess (Late) - Black/Royal Claret
NBSA008          Motorbike & Sidecar  -RAF Blue
NLAN188020    Land Rover Series I 88" Canvas  - REME
NNMN002        New Mini -  Pepper White
NSFE007         Scania Pump Ladder Surrey  - Fire & Rescue

There are also restocks of several sold out items.

The next batch of new planned items will be announced in a few days when Lyndon Davies can find a slot in his calendar, and I am back in the UK. :-)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 26, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
bring on that lovely British Railways yard lifter.   Even it is in chocolate & cream... 

Jerry
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on May 30, 2018, 08:11:27 AM
As newer items are released it seems that Oxford Diecast are adding more photos of the actual models to the website product pages. Here is the example of the recent fire appliance release which includes a side view against a measure to judge the scale better.

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in/products/scania-pump-ladder-surrey-fire-rescue-nsfe007 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in/products/scania-pump-ladder-surrey-fire-rescue-nsfe007)

The other N new releases can be viewed here:-

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on May 31, 2018, 07:21:50 PM

The next batch of new planned items will be announced in a few days when Lyndon Davies can find a slot in his calendar, and I am back in the UK. :-)

The new items for the June - September catalogue will be announced on the evening of Friday 8 June 2018 on the members only Facebook group Oxford Diecast Collectors. There should be a corresponding trade announcement at the about the same time. Eloise Davies (MD) and Lyndon Davies will reveal what is planned.

So far this year Oxford have released as many N items as they have announced (12 released and 12 announced). At any one time there are between 40 and 50 items in the development pipeline with around half of them announced to the market. Planning for the 2020 release programme has already started.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 08, 2018, 07:45:17 PM
New items announced this evening:-

Reliveries

NNMN005 New Mini British Racing Green and Union Jack Q4/2018
NFDE004 Ford 400E Van Royal Mail Q4/2018
NFT021 Ford Transit Mk5 Stobart Fleet Maintenance Q4/2018
NMN007 Mini Car RAF Q4/2018
NLRT004 Leyland Royal Tiger Maidstone & District Q4/2018
NNR007 New Routemaster First West Yorkshire Q4/2018
NWFA002 Weymann Fanfare Grey Cars Q4/2018

New shapes

NDIS001 Land Rover Discovery 4 Ipanema Sand Q4/2018
NMW6001 Bristol MW6G Royal Blue Q4/2018

Information and photos released to the trade tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on June 08, 2018, 09:34:17 PM
Discovery a useful addition but yet another old style bus, we already have plenty of these to choose from  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on June 08, 2018, 10:01:35 PM
THE Bristol MW6G is a useful addition but yet another luxury vehicle , we already have plenty of these to choose from . different things for different people  ,still nothing in the way of 'normal cars'
The New Routemaster in First West Yorkshire was a one off livery on one of the prototypes and the bus failed to  entre service
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 09, 2018, 07:49:32 AM
Jaguar Land Rover have a close relationship with Oxford Diecast and make licensing easy. The producers of the ordinary cars make it difficult to licence and want big money. They also prefer exclusive scale specific agreements, which cost the same for each scale, and make N scale volumes less able to bear the cost.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 09, 2018, 08:05:06 AM
With the Facebook announcement last night were photos of the production versions of 14 unreleased items. They covered the 13 outstanding items from the 2017 announcements, plus the Burlingham Seagull coach (Stratford Blue) from the January 2018 announcements. These are due over the next 8 to 10 weeks, shipping permitting.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 09, 2018, 08:19:45 AM
The images of the newly announced items are the first ones on this page:-

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-range?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-range?constraint=1-148)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on June 09, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
Please do not think I was complaining ,I am grateful for what ever Oxford give us. There is a good mix in the reliveries, I would have liked to see an other Imp there, but still think the New Routemaster's livery is an odd choice.
The Discovery though not to my taste is some thing that is needed by anyone
modelling in modern image. With the link to Jaguar Land Rover do I can only hope that the Mark 2 Jaguar is issued at some point in the future
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 09, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
I think that Oxford have missed out on making another all red Borismaster. The one they issued is sold out and not scheduled for re-release.

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-range?constraint=1-148+oxford-omnibus (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-range?constraint=1-148+oxford-omnibus)


Much as the varied one-off colour schemes might sell to collectors, for a layout a range of more common liveries works better. The green Borismaster is an ideal foil to the people who complain everything is focussed on London, …..or Southdown. But London and Southdown buses sell best, it seems.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: javlinfaw7 on June 09, 2018, 10:26:05 AM
As long as  this fictitious livery does not appear.
 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/b6/c4/98b6c48dac2b073b7124c655bff47ee4.jpg
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Jerry Howlett on June 09, 2018, 02:43:48 PM
As long as  this fictitious livery does not appear.
 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/b6/c4/98b6c48dac2b073b7124c655bff47ee4.jpg

Sadly even your fictitious livery was missing "Rail Replacement service" , as its destination...   :D :D :D

Jerry
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2018, 04:24:32 PM
As long as  this fictitious livery does not appear.
 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/b6/c4/98b6c48dac2b073b7124c655bff47ee4.jpg

Sadly even your fictitious livery was missing "Rail Replacement service" , as its destination...   :D :D :D

Jerry

It must be available in Northern Rail colours then :hmmm:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: The Q on June 11, 2018, 12:20:45 PM
With the Facebook announcement last night were photos of the production versions of 14 unreleased items. They covered the 13 outstanding items from the 2017 announcements, plus the Burlingham Seagull coach (Stratford Blue) from the January 2018 announcements. These are due over the next 8 to 10 weeks, shipping permitting.
The Burlingham seagull is a welcome announcement. My family had some in the day, some will be on a tour of Tiree in the family colours.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 13, 2018, 05:31:14 PM
The printed catalogue is now available to view and download from:-

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/JUNE-SEPT_18.pdf?9600825157106359079

The N items are on pages 31-37 and page 43.
This is a large file.


Some of the other scales make for envious reading, and spontaneous wishlisting.


Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 14, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
Seven new releases will be in the shops next week:-

NCOR3002     Cortina MkIII  - Daytona Yellow
NCT006         Citroen 2CV Charleston  - Two Tone Grey
NDSC002      Daimler Dingo  - 10th Mounted Rifles
NMGB002      MGB Roadster - Pale Primrose
NNR005        New Routemaster  - Propercorn
NSHL03TK    Scania Highline Tanker  - Eddie Stobart *
NTCAB005    Scania T Cab Tipper - Tinnelly

The 3 axle tanker trailer in the NSHL03TK is a new casting.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: RailGooner on June 14, 2018, 01:32:56 PM
Have been looking forward to the Scania Highline Tanker. :beers:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on June 15, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Retailers now have the June releases in stock.

Looking at the photos of the fuel tanker on Hattons I felt there was an excessive distance between the cab and the tank, but a check of the many online images shows several exactly like the Oxford model.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on June 18, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Just received from Hattons

Tanker is a nice model, plus the new colours for the MG and Cortina

Took the opportunity to buy the new Mini in white and Scania bus

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/2967-180618215748.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66682)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/66/2967-180618215824.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=66683)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: RailGooner on June 18, 2018, 10:06:28 PM
Nice. :thumbsup: The tanker is really very nice. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Surely the Cortina is too tiny though?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on June 18, 2018, 10:32:35 PM
I think we forget how much smaller cars were in the 70s, if anything the MG may be over scale

I have checked other Oxford models and they have been to scale with the only exception being the Mercedes ice cream van where the dimensions are all over the place

 
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: RailGooner on June 18, 2018, 10:48:52 PM
I think we forget how much smaller cars were in the 70s
…

True. :beers:


..
 if anything the MG may be over scale
…

Probably doesn't help having the (anything but) Mini in the middle. :D
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 04, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
One new release going out to retailers now:-

NMA002       Mercedes Ambulance  - London

The previous edition of this moulding was the Welsh Ambulance Service version.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 08, 2018, 08:54:51 AM
Each year Oxford Diecast publishes a review of the previous calendar year., showing the items released across all scales. The 2017 edition has just been published and illustrates 296 catalogue reference numbers, plus the various Globe magazines, catalogues and reviews published.

The breakdown by scale is:-

1/148    42  (14%)
1/72      21  (7%)
1/76    190 (including 12 sets of 3, 5 or 10 vehicles) (64%)
1/87      12 (4%)
1/18       3  (1%)
1/43     28  (9.5%)

The 1/148 scale analysis is:-

11   Buses, coaches, and bus company vehicles, including 2 sets contaning 5 buses
9    Cars
3    Agricultural
3    Emergency Services
2    Vans
11  Large commercials/HGVs
3    Military


Although Oxford Diecast celebrates its 25th anniversary this year it has really only been very active in the ranges we see today for about 13/14 years. It lists 4520 items in its range, of which 398 are in 1/148 scale. Only 30 of the 1/148 scale items are sold out, the mix of which can be seen in this link.

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148?constraint=out-of-stock (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/1-148?constraint=out-of-stock)


So far in 2018, 21 items have been released to the market in 1/148 scale..



Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2018, 10:01:02 AM
Interesting, Mike.
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Paddy on July 08, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Thanks Mike.

I keep hoping they will release their OO version of Ivo's Bentley in N gauge...

Paddy
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 27, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
Five new releases on their way to retailers now:-

NDEF002       Land Rover Defender  - Royal Mail
NLRL002       Land Rover Lightweight - Military Police
NMB006        Mercedes Actros Curtainside  - Sparks
NSEA002      Burlingham Seagull - Stratford Blue
NVOL4003    Volvo FH4 Curtainside  - Knowles

4 of these are 2017 announcements, which have now all been delivered except:-

NTRAIL006  Mobile Trailer  - Buns on Wheels

The Stratford Blue coach was a January 2018 announcement.




Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 28, 2018, 07:56:23 AM
Just a reflection on yesterday's Oxford release batch. Across all scales there are 56 catalogue references, 39 are completely new, and 17 are reissues of previous releases. Of the 39, 6 are from entirely new tooling, 2 are sets of 5 Austins and 5 Triumphs in previously released colours, and 31 are new colours/liveries on existing shapes.


The N totals are 9 items released, 5 completely new references, and 4 re-issues of items otherwise going out of stock:-

NAP003  Austin Princess(late) - Carlton grey/light grey
NLAN188010   Land Rover Series 1 - Rover Fire Service
NMB001   Mercedes Actros with curtainside trailer - Eddie Stobart
NMN001   Austin Mini - tartan red with Union flag on roof


At the moment Oxford have almost 500 items in development for release through to 2020, over half of them not yet announced. Must be all those 1/148 scale 1970s- 1990s cars they are keeping up their sleeves. ;-)


Makes me wonder how they keep track of it all when I have so many half-finished projects, some of which I am sure I have forgotten about completely.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on August 04, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
The five recent releases are now illustrated on the Oxford website with all round illustrations in each item description ( except for the Burlingham Seagull coach)

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/new-in?constraint=1-148)

Some of the photos show an amazing level of detailing, but also emphasise a crudeness when viewed at full screen size which is not so evident when viewing the actual model.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on August 18, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Here is a photo of some of the newer releases

Good to see that Oxford have got the scaling a lot better on the Mercedes ambulance than the over scale ice cream van


 
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/2967-180818114944.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68260)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 09, 2018, 08:59:37 PM
Two new items for imminent release:-


NCOR3003 Cortina MkIII Sebring Red
NTRAIL006     Mobile Trailer Buns on Wheels
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 25, 2018, 05:57:33 PM
Over the coming week Oxford Diecast will announce the next batch of models they plan to introduce.

All announcements from 2017 have now been delivered, and two items from the January 2018 batch have also arrived.

The balance of announced items still to be delivered is listed below:-

NCHT002 Churchill Tank 1st Canadian Army Brg. Dieppe 1942 - released October 2018
NDIS001 Land Rover Discovery 4 - Ipanema Sand*
NFDE004 Ford 400E Van - Royal Mail Dec 2018
NFDE008 Ford 400E Van - Southdown  Nov 2018
NFT012 Ford Transit Mk5 Stobart Rail Low Roof Dec 2018  
NFT021 Ford Transit Mk5 Stobart Fleet Maintenance
NGG001 Green Goddess AFS *
NLRT004 Leyland Royal Tiger Maidstone & District
NMB007 Mercedes Actros Curtainside McGawn Bros
NMN007 Mini Car RAF Dec 2018
NMW6001 Bristol MW6G Royal Blue *
NNMN005 New Mini British Racing Green and Union Jack
NNR006 New Routemaster LT50 General
NNR007 New Routemaster First West Yorkshire
NSDF001 Shelvoke & Drewry Freightlifter British Rail (Western) *
NTCAB007CC Scania T Cab Box Trailer Coca Cola Xmas
NTIL004 Austin Tilly Light AA Brigade Nov 2018
NTRAIL004 Mobile Trailer Walls Dec 2018
NWFA002 Weymann Fanfare Grey Cars

* =  New shape



Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 25, 2018, 06:00:06 PM
Found a short but interesting thread on RMWeb where some 1950s/1960s vehicles have been produced by imaginative chopping and swapping of Oxford and BT Models commercial vehicles parts.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/137086-a-small-fleet-of-bedfords/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/137086-a-small-fleet-of-bedfords/)



Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 26, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Only one new release reported for next week so far:-

NCHT002 Churchill Tank 1st Canadian Army Brg. Dieppe 1942


Although this tank is from the 1942 Dieppe Raid, the Canadian forces played a major role is capturing territory along the French coast after D-day in 1944. 74 years ago today they captured the German big guns at Calais which had been shelling my home town of Dover since 12 August 1940. I often think about the courageous people who remained in the town in spite of regular shelling from those guns, as well as the same challenges faced by everyone else - air raids, and the new menace of V1 and V2 flying bombs.


Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 04, 2018, 07:20:01 PM
These are the new 1/148 scale items added in the October 2018- January 2019 catalogue. These are all new liveries. No new shapes to be announced until end january 2019. 4 extra shapes in tooling now.

N105008 Ford Anglia Yellow (Vyv)
NMGB003 MGB Roadster British Racing Green
NMMT008 Morris Traveller Almond Green (Dot Cotton)
NMN008 Mini Surf Blue/OEW
NVWB005 VW Beetle Black
NCA021 Bedford CA Ice Cream Van Mr Softee
NFT023 Ford Transit Mk5 SWB Low Roof Network Rail
NSHL01TK Scania Highline Tanker BP
NTCAB006 Scania T Cab Semi Low Loader Sandy Kydd
NRT007 RT Bus Browns Blue
NTR008 Tram London Transport
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 04, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
Just one supplementary comment on tonight's announcements.

NTIL004 Austin Tilly Light AA Brigade - Malta 1942

This item has reappeared in the listing with an illustration. Although it was announced in January 2018 Oxford had not included it in trade lists or the catalogue. The "crazy paving camouflage" livery will be an interesting one to reproduce. The 1/76 scale version sold out in a very short period. Apologies to the military purists for my description of the camouflage. :-)
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Rabbitaway on October 04, 2018, 10:40:16 PM
Disappointing that there is no new tooling, Oxford would appear to be making N gauge a low priority.

Not sure what you mean by 4 extra shapes in tooling, are these new unannounced or the new shapes we already know are planned?

Although some useful new colours and liveries, BP tanker likely to be popular

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 04, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
I think that Oxford will always treat N and 0 gauge as minority markets and concentrate their tooling spend on the 00 gauge market which is now a core collectors market not related directly related to its railway origin. The 0 gauge people are grumpy because Oxford really only makes cars, taxis, and vans in their scale, and no bigger vehicles, although there is one 1950s coach in the pipeline. So we are slightly better off in N, though I really don’t foresee Oxford being able to cover all eras and all vehicle types.

Weren’t Bachmann rumoured to be planning some Carflat fodder for when they get the rights to the NGS model?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Ben A on October 05, 2018, 01:14:33 AM

Hi Mike,

When we first talked to Bachmann about doing the NGS carflat we wanted to make complementary packs of era-suitable "bog standard" cars.  These would've been in blister packs of mixed types/colours with four vehicles per pack - perfect for a single carflat.

Unfortunately they decided, having done some preparatory work, that the numbers didn't stack up.

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Mustermark on October 05, 2018, 01:37:58 AM
I wonder if the N gauge ‘bog standard’ car market has been underestimated...
There are a few of us that have bought dozens of Cortinas or Anglias for the carflats and/or cartics. DJM certainly messed up with the expressions of interest suffering from poor marketing, and I think Bachmann might have missed a trick with the carflats.

In O gauge, Oxford has Lledo/Vanguards and Corgi as competition. I have a bunch of 60’s and 70’s cars in 1/43 for my O gauge, 6 out of 27 (22%) are Oxford.

In N gauge, their competition is pretty limited. Base Toys has made a good start, Bachmann has not got bus dimensions right... and so on.
So, perhaps, now would be a good time to go beyond the Cortina, Morris Minor and Anglia before Bachmann realizes that nobody wants an empty carflat!

*bog standard could happily include a Zephyr.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 05, 2018, 08:25:09 AM
I wonder if the N gauge ‘bog standard’ car market has been underestimated...


I think that it has been underestimated. But the case is not compelling enough for any of the manufacturers to have picked up on it.

If ever there was a way into that market the Carflat should have been the catalyst, the scope being for a single shape, like the Mk3 Cortina, in a range of colours. The risk is, of course, that the Carflat/Cortina combo becomes as repetitive as Metcalfe terrace houses on layouts.


Amongst last night's announcements in 1/76scale were cars already in the Corgi 1/43 range - Mk. 1 Capri, Mk.1 Escort and Audi Quattro - and the first two at least would warrant the shrink ray treatment for N. But I no longer believe that Oxford will be going that way. I would love to be proved wrong.





Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Stuart Down Under on October 05, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Ouch! Just finishing another row of Metcalfe terraces!

 :worried:
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 07, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Images of the eleven new announcements are now shown on this page.

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-scale?constraint=1-148 (https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/by-scale?constraint=1-148)


Although announced in January "NTIL004 Austin Tilly -- Light AA Brigade" still is not listed on the Oxford website although an image was shown on Thursday evening. Curious.

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Bornin1980something on October 07, 2018, 10:59:48 PM
When might we expect the LR Discovery? I'm exhibiting next month.

Also, I've noticed several bog standard cars on Shapeways. Does anyone know how well they are doing?
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 08, 2018, 09:04:06 AM
When might we expect the LR Discovery? I'm exhibiting next month.




Catalogue said Q2/2019 when announced last June. No pre-production model seen as yet.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 18, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
The latest edition of the Oxford Diecast catalogue is available to view and download here:-

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/OCT-JAN_19.pdf?15357187787527904344

The N items are on pages 31-37, with one set on page 43. I tend to take the release dates as a finger in the air estimate. :)


There are probably still 3 or 4 deliveries before the end of the calendar year which might mean that the Q3/Q4 2018 scheduled items will be here before Christmas.

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on October 30, 2018, 09:59:46 PM
Two N items for release over the coming days:-

NFDE008 Ford 400E Van - Southdown
NTIL004 Austin Tilly-  Light AA Brigade

Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 09, 2018, 02:49:03 PM
The final new releases for 2018 will be at retailers over the coming days. All 4 are reliveries of existing shapes:-

NFDE004          Ford 400E Van - Royal Mail
NFT012             Ford Transit Mk5 Low Roof - Stobart Rail
NMN007            Mini Car - RAF
NTRAIL004       Mobile Trailer - Walls

There are 4 new shapes in tooling which hopefully will be in display at the London Toyfair in late January.

I will initiate a new topic for 2019 over the next week or two including an update on the 23 items already announced and for delivery next year.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: Ben A on December 09, 2018, 06:57:13 PM

Hi Mike,

Do you know whether the 4 shapes in tooling have been previously announced, or will be surprises?

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Oxford Diecast 2018 – deliveries and announcements
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 09, 2018, 10:48:48 PM

Hi Mike,

Do you know whether the 4 shapes in tooling have been previously announced, or will be surprises?

cheers

Ben A.

Ben. They are the ones already announced but not yet seen as mouldings:-

Land Rover Discovery;
Shelvoke Freightlifter;
Green Goddess RL fire engine;
Bristol MW coach.
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