a dean goods
Oh yes :D oh though i was hoping for a some form of southern 4-4-0 or 0-6-0 but a dean goods would will be helpful :-D :laugh3:
Don't forget there's already 2 locos in Southern livery]
a dean goods
Oh yes :D oh though i was hoping for a some form of southern 4-4-0 or 0-6-0 but a dean goods would will be helpful :-D :laugh3:
Don't forget there's already 2 locos in Southern livery plus a S&DJR loco.
However a new UM loco is always good news, no fancy detailing or bag of
add ons just a solid reliable product. All the GWR geezers will be drooling.
Myself included.
Dunno what we're gonna do with you West Country folk, I really don't. ;)
Dunno what we're gonna do with you West Country folk, I really don't. ;)
Just give us more cider and we're happy ;)
If it had been a Jones Goods I'd be interested............ :thumbsdown:
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:bounce: :claphappy: YES !!! This will sooth us while we await the Farish Castle, which seems to be slipping further into the future. Which will come first I wonder?
dch05
How can you mix the glorious Guiness with anything, is that why you live down under to escape the shame :beers:Well you do have a point there, but I was young, remember. All I remember is that the concoction lifted me lid off ;D
Is the loco named after it's designer, or the Forest of Dean?
Long lived, various liveries widespread. Sounds like a winner to me if UM can get the drive into the titchy Churchward tender.
Hmm... the Adams 0395 seems to have had a similar sized tender, which the UM model "beefed up" a bit to make the motor fit.
Yes indeed... that is a small tender. But, UM will deliver, I'm sure.
I still have had no sensible answer from the forum.... yes, I know there's a thing called fikipedia (typo), but whence comes the name (Dean Goods)?
The UM tender is a Drummond one, I've done a Google images search on the 0395 , none shown with a Drummond tender; A quick red through the 0395 chapter in Bradley's Adams classes the only tender changes were to inherit some 3.300 gallon tenders from Adams A12 class withdrawals, these looked almost identical to the 0395 ones except slightly larger, the print on the dimensioned drawings in Bradley I can't even read with a magnifier so can't state what dimensions were.
Looking at the pics of the Adams 0-6-0 the tender looks a bit like UM's "generic" small tender which is based on a Midland type. I think the water filler has moved but very little else.
I've found it necessary to remodel tenders on just about all my UM locos to make them look more like the real thing- and for many of the LNER types that has involved buying a "loose" tender from Colin to get a smaller body and putting the displaced oversize one onto eBay....
All the very best
Les
I've just discovered this topic.
Do you know when this Dean Goods could be available ? :drool:
Tried to persuade him to think about that LYR class 27 0-6-0, too ...Definitely in keeping with things like the Adams 0395 in shape and mechanism, so seems a good proposal.
I'm looking forward to a Dean Goods (especially as it's a UM model).
Does Colin take advance orders does anyone know ?
My plea has been for a D34 "Glen".
Roy
Did Graham Hughes do a "Glen" kit, then?? I don't think I've got that in my table of pre-grouping locomotives ...
Now, if you want to get a Glen out of Colin Heard, you're going to have to address his perception that "Scottish locomotives dont' sell very well". For ages he's been saying that by FAR the slowest-selling locomotive he ever made was the J38 ... but I notice that it's back on his list.
So perhaps the most useful thing you can do, if you want a Glen, is to persuade as many people as you can to go and buy a J38 ("it's been out of his list for EVER so long ... if you don't get one of this batch before they sell out, it might be ever such a long wait before the next ones become available ..." You know the form!)
I'm looking forward to a Dean Goods (especially as it's a UM model).
Does Colin take advance orders does anyone know ?
Did Graham Hughes do a "Glen" kit, then?? I don't think I've got that in my table of pre-grouping locomotives ...
Now, if you want to get a Glen out of Colin Heard, you're going to have to address his perception that "Scottish locomotives dont' sell very well". For ages he's been saying that by FAR the slowest-selling locomotive he ever made was the J38 ... but I notice that it's back on his list.
So perhaps the most useful thing you can do, if you want a Glen, is to persuade as many people as you can to go and buy a J38 ("it's been out of his list for EVER so long ... if you don't get one of this batch before they sell out, it might be ever such a long wait before the next ones become available ..." You know the form!)
I have agonised over a J38 for a while. They were though I think only common at the North end of the Waverley Route.
My other issue is ease of DCC "ing" without major surgery...
Roy
A photo of your J27 would be good even though I'm not a DCC man myself I'm sure lots of members would love to see your work.
Bob
Just off the phone with Colin, next will be another GWR offering, due autumn.
(didn't 2 panniers end up in the Thurso/Wick area ?)
just think if its a Dean goods , you Western lot can run ex LNER J25's as the MOD sent the dean locos to France during the war , thus leaving the GWR without power so they sent the J25's to help out .... (didn't 2 panniers end up in the Thurso/Wick area ?)
I have never owned a U.M loco, come to think of it not sure I have ever seen one. From what I understand they lack the detail of loco's from the big two manufacturers, but are very reliable with great hauling power.
I have never owned a U.M loco, come to think of it not sure I have ever seen one. From what I understand they lack the detail of loco's from the big two manufacturers, but are very reliable with great hauling power. I could be tempted to give U.M. a try with a Dukedog or similar.
How have people found the Dean Goods?
Thanks for the tip, Mike! I thought he might do another GWR loco after the Dean Goods proved so popular. My money is on the Dukedogs, which I would be very tempted by, admittedly.
Thanks for the tip, Mike! I thought he might do another GWR loco after the Dean Goods proved so popular. My money is on the Dukedogs, which I would be very tempted by, admittedly.
A Dukedog would be fantastic !
Let's cross fingers.
I'm pretty sure all the GW 4-4-0s had gone by the mid 50s, certainly from the South West so I wouldn't buy one of those.
U.M. make models that are not considered/made by the the big two, they therefore cater for a specific market. I think the GWR/W.R. is modelled more than other regions. If I am correct it therefore follows that GWR/W.R. locos will have a greater market. If his recent GWR introduction has sold really well this may influence future models. We hear they are reliable,and reliability is something that seems to get discussed on here with regularity. Maybe there is a happy medium whereby U.M. locos could incorporate a bit more detail, whilst retaining their reliability. As I said previously I have never owned a U.M. model but I'm certainly warming to the ideaI've got three and am very pleased with them all.
:hellosign: Colin Heard has said that he wouldn`t produce out sided cylinder loco`s due to cost, It`s a shame but he is only a very tiny manufacturer. :D
:hellosign: Colin Heard has said that he wouldn`t produce out sided cylinder loco`s due to cost, It`s a shame but he is only a very tiny manufacturer. :D
Yes I understand he is a small manufacturer. He may wish to stay exactly that, with his locos having a reputation for reliability, something we all wish for. Producing locos with outside cylinders could well result in a ? loss of reliability, with more to go wrong. Only he will know which direction he wants to head in. It would be nice though if he decides to venture further, with perhaps a slight expansion of his business and products.
IIRC, the largest pre-grouping company without a single representative loco ready to run from any manufacturer of the Lancashire and Yorkshire. With several classes of fairly simple 0-6-0, 0-8-0 and 4-6-0 tender locos (mostly lasting in to the 1950s) you would think they would be ideal subjects for UM.
In terms of steam loco types the biggest gap left is for medium size tanks. We have numerous smaller/shunting 0-6-0T and several choices of large 2-6-2T & 2-6-4Ts but not one 0-6-2T or 4-4-2T or 2-4-2T
Come to think of it most if not all the prototypes for UM models made it into BR livery.True, but sometimes "only just". The LNWR 'Prince of Wales' class for example were all gone by 1949! I've no idea how many of the Sharp Stewart 4-4-0s survived into BR days, though the Cambrian Railways ones certainly survived a while under GWR auspices. Not sure for how long though.
I would guess that the majority of steam layouts model BR up to end of steam.So the manufacturers tell us, and I'm sure Colin bears that in mind. He's been pretty honest over the years about which locos sell well and which sit on the shelves.
We are all just guessing or putting forward our own wish lists ,in fact we are getting away from the original idea from Colin saying it will possibly be another GWR loco and he did say that an outside framed loco was unlikely so I think that would rule out City of Truro and Dukedogs but as I said he might have told me that to put me of the scent, I hope he did .City of Truro would be a very welcombe addition to my Preserved Railway ,I'm definately going to thin out my stock in readiness for the next GWR loco from him whatever it is . However I might sell some of my other U M Models but Its a job to let thing go, I hate parting with stuff that I have cherished and enjoyed for a long while.
Bob
Conversely my contention is that there are so many GWR/BR(W) layouts because there is such a wide selection of stock compared to the other grouping companies, almost an inverse catch 22.Undeniably true, at least up to a point. But there is a specialness to the BR(W) scene, with the very popular diesel hydraulics running alongside ex-GWR locos, whereas other BR regions aren't quite so distinctive. Of course they do have their own flavour, the Scottish and Southern especially. Not denying that for a second.
One possible reason is that GWR standardised their stock far more than any of the other grouping companies.That could be a plus so far as manufacturers are concerned, but quite how far standard boilers matter when we're talking about injection moulding is hard to say.
So how many chose GWR because that was the largest selection of readily available RTR stock? ... A branch line terminus to fiddle was probably the preferred layout due to space and comparative ease of construction and with a couple of panniers and/or prairies could be run fairly convincingly with maybe the occasional HallAgreed, and in some part this has to be the high level of documentation available to modellers. There are so many books about GWR and BR(W) lines, especially branchlines, that coming up with Ashburton or Hemyock-type plans isn't that difficult.
While there should be nostalgia for the hard working, more industrial branchlines of the Northwest and Northeast, there just isn't. Discuss!
to discuss the natural superiority of the GWR!
We seem to have gone off topic here. Feels like we need a new topic to discuss the natural superiority of the GWR! Only fitting for the 175 year celebration of Swindon.
Conversely my contention is that there are so many GWR/BR(W) layouts because there is such a wide selection of stock compared to the other grouping companies, almost an inverse catch 22. At least that was the position until a few years after Bachman took over Farish and Dapol and UM started N gauge.
Not entirely dissimilar thread over at the other place:
Getting back to the point of the thread :
As Union Mills make tender drive locos with just coupling rods - no outside cylinders I suggest:
One possible reason is that GWR standardised their stock far more than any of the other grouping companies.
Alan, I was referring to loco stock not coaching. I suspect that first thoughts when many a modeller is starting a layout would be which locos; it's only when we delve deeper into things that coaches start to be considered in more detail than when starting.Sadly true - far too many modellers are so loco-centric... They expect perfection in their locos and criticise a single rivet out of place, yet are happy to hang any old coaches or wagons behind it... Until fairly recently the only proper pre-nationalisation coaches available RTR were the Minitrix Gresleys - for everyone else it was the Farish generic 'Mainline' and 'Suburban' stock :(
There were a lot of small batches and one-offs among the more numerous types on the LNER stock as well, and even the supposedly standardised Stanier stock on the LMS ran to over 20 different variants on four different length under frames (ignoring 12 wheelers) and so far from Farish the only deviations from a 57ft length are the inspection saloon and Full Brake on 50ft chassis. We don't yet have the most common coach of the type - the 60ft Corridor Composite...One possible reason is that GWR standardised their stock far more than any of the other grouping companies.That's really dubious. The GWR rarely managed to build more than about ten coaches to a diagram before changing it. Compared with LNER, LMS or SR coaching stock it's a nightmare!!
How about GT3? A 4-6-0 with no valve gear, smooth loco body & simple 6 wheeled tender.
GT3 would be an interesting model .
Just a thought How Many of our merry band would love one of these on our layouts. Please post on here if you are interested..
the next new model in november will be a gwr dukedom
the next new model in november will be a gwr dukedom
Oh well that's one I won't be buying. All gone by 1960 and pretty much only used on the Cambrian lines. Absolutely no use whatsoever for the South West in the early 60s.
the next new model in november will be a gwr dukedom
the next new model in november will be a gwr dukedomPlease please please please please please please please please please.
the next new model in november will be a gwr dukedom
yes - from the horses mouth hope i have not let the cat out of the bagUnless Colin asked you to post here then you might well have done.
citation needed
I've just had an e-mail from Colin which reads;
"Dukedogs should be ready in November, price is £82 plus £3 post. Will be available in BR black and GW green."
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
:beers: :D :claphappy:
Just been talking to Colin and ordered my Dukedogs one in GWR green and one in BR black the family can club together and buy them for me for Christmas , I was thinking of asking them to buy the new DC sound fitted Farish 108 but I think that these will be a much better choice and will last a lot longerOrdered mine as well. Southbridge is off to Broadstairs at the end of November. Here's hoping I will have it by then. It should cause a stir.
As already posted £85 each including postage , so two strong powerful G W R Locos for about the same price ,and they will fit in on my preserved railway .
November will soon be here and as Val and Glenn are going away for Christmas you know where I will be spending my Christmas days .
Down the shed of course.
Bob
Colin just rang me back as I never told him which GWR loco I wanted he is doing three liveries G W R , GREAT WESTERN , and a BR black version I also joked with him and pre ordered a City of Truro and couple of Collett 2251 Locos he then said not yet , but never say never,
So now waiting to see what comes first the Pendolino or the Dukedogs .
I know the Dukedogs will be November and fingers crossed the Pendolino will be around Christmas or before my birthday in March .
I am very lucky to have an understanding family who club together now ,it's much better than tons of socks ,handkerchiefs or deodorants and stuff that you allready have ,
I have finally taught them some sense ,buy something I want, although it does spoil the surprise ,but saves on wrapping paper.
Bob
Good that it's confirmed but it is of no use to my layouts.
I'll keep my powder dry and my wallet full until the Farish Castle appears next year. If it had been a 2251 I would have put a cheque in the post.
Sounds great.
Can anyone kindly provide a photo or a link to a good picture of the loco?
Dave G
Sounds great.
Can anyone kindly provide a photo or a link to a good picture of the loco?
Dave G
I emailed Colin earlier today; he doesn't have any photos yet!
Cheers, NeMo
I hope you get a positive reply, but probably the outside cylinders and connecting rods will rule it out. I'd love a NER Atlantic.
I hope you get a positive reply, but probably the outside cylinders and connecting rods will rule it out. I'd love a NER Atlantic.
Were there no inside cylinder 'Atlantics' on the NER or any other railway company? Colin has already done any number of inside cylinder 4-6-0s.
The majority of his locos seem to be LNER and LMS designs, so clearly he favours "oop north" prototypes over "dahn saaf" ones. :D
The Aspinall L&Y atlantics of 1899 were inside cylinder locos with 7'3" wheels and lasted into LMS days.The Aspinall is a good shout, but there may be slight issues in fitting the standard tender drive unit into a tank though ;)
Also there were inside cylinder atlantic tanks on the LNWR, GNR, LBSCR, NBR, etc. etc
Ordered my BR black one today, I think Colin is onto a winner with this one, think of the future possibilities (City, Bulldog, Duke, Atbara, etc.) I can hardly wait!!Trying to resist as Mrs "H" has noticed a lack of activity on the layout this year, I haven't even test run the Class 22 I bought in June.
Regards,
Alex
As soon as my mate can come over I will get him to help me put a video clip on hereYes please! :beers:
I might try to put a photo on here if I can remember how to.Well, if you want to mail it over to me, I'd happily take some photos for you! :hmmm:
Hi all.....if I were interested in purchasing a Union Mills model what is the best way of contactingtham as it doesn't appear they have a website....is there an email address or anywhere to look at what they have available?......a dealer that stocks them?......thanks, Mark.
Thanks very much......as is usual, after I posted that I kept looking and found an email address...... ::)
Just so accustomed to being able to go to a website and view / purchase things which is so easy.....
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GrahamB I've only looked at mine ,as I said I have to wait indoors for parcels for the family so havnt run mine yet, have you actualy checked the Dukedogs against the width of the outside frame O8s the Dukedogs look a little bit narrower but it might be just an illusion caused by the shape of the boiler against the squarer shape of the diesel.but I'm lucky when my station was built we had some Minitrix 9f Locos which are quite wide so we built the platform with that plus a little bit more clearance so no problem there.I don't have an 08 to compare it against. I don't think the GWR had any 08's :wave:
Bob Tidbury.
GrahamB I've only looked at mine ,as I said I have to wait indoors for parcels for the family so havnt run mine yet, have you actualy checked the Dukedogs against the width of the outside frame O8s the Dukedogs look a little bit narrower but it might be just an illusion caused by the shape of the boiler against the squarer shape of the diesel.but I'm lucky when my station was built we had some Minitrix 9f Locos which are quite wide so we built the platform with that plus a little bit more clearance so no problem there.I don't have an 08 to compare it against. I don't think the GWR had any 08's :wave:
Bob Tidbury.
Johnlambert ,You won't be disappointed with the performance that I can promise you,but don't expect a super detailed model with fancy brake gear you can't even see or seperate handrails that twist out of shape or even coloured whistles ,they are very basic models but lots of people do add all the fancy bits themselves .
Bob Tidbury
... maybe a City of Truro is now a possibility?
Hopefully,
Alex
Mine arrived today, and I have just spent a very happy hour watching it going round my layout. a little trimming was required on one platform, but otherwise all is well.
My heartfelt thanks go to Colin Heard of Union Mills, who has given all of us Western men another little jewel. maybe a City of Truro is now a possibility?
Hopefully,
Alex
The 22xx would be an interesting move as the Peco ones are like rocking horse poo and priced very high. I bought mine when Peco brought it out and paid £110 for it. I wonder what Colin will charge :hmmm:
I think its a case of have tender add loco :D
I'm not complaining, I will have a couple as I have figured out how to fit DCC sound. :thumbsup:
I think its a case of have tender add loco :D
I'm not complaining, I will have a couple as I have figured out how to fit DCC sound. :thumbsup:
I would love a tutorial with a few pictures and a video, if you find a spare moment and feel inspired to share!
I think its a case of have tender add loco :D
I'm not complaining, I will have a couple as I have figured out how to fit DCC sound. :thumbsup:
I would love a tutorial with a few pictures and a video, if you find a spare moment and feel inspired to share!
You carve out all the coal and mount the chip and speaker on top. I will be doing another soon and will post photos.
Thank you. I hadn't bothered to check earlier posts since I hadn't expected him to make an announcement so early. Now I feel foolish.
I think I'm kind of disappointed to hear this news. Colin has steered clear of prototypes that have been made by other manufacturers in the past and this would also be his third western loco in a row. At least we can be assured his Collett will pull a train. My Peco one is not the best.
Matt
There is absolutely no chance of another run of the Peco 2251 so the UM one will be the only model available for the foreseeable future.
For my eyes the Peco model had a tender that was too big and just looked plain wrong. Based on past models the UM version will be low on detail and need quite a bit of fettling to make it an acceptable model. That said I will almost certainly buy one. Now who supplies N gauge handrail knobs?
If it had been a Jones Goods I'd be interested............ :thumbsdown:I don't think you should hold your breath waiting for an outside-cylinder engine from Union Mills........but if it were to happen, I'd rather it were a Q5, Q6 or Q7.
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There is absolutely no chance of another run of the Peco 2251 so the UM one will be the only model available for the foreseeable future.I know what you mean, but the human eye doesn't notice much detail on such small models when they're doing what they're supposed to - moving about on a bit of railway. I'm a fan of UM because, from normal viewing distances, they look the part and will pull a heavy train up the side of a house; (I may exaggerate, but only slightly!).
For my eyes the Peco model had a tender that was too big and just looked plain wrong. Based on past models the UM version will be low on detail and need quite a bit of fettling to make it an acceptable model. That said I will almost certainly buy one. Now who supplies N gauge handrail knobs?
If it had been a Jones Goods I'd be interested............ :thumbsdown:I don't think you should hold your breath waiting for an outside-cylinder engine from Union Mills........but if it were to happen, I'd rather it were a Q5, Q6 or Q7.
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Well that's Christmas taken care of :)
They wlli be tested this evening and then unfortunately wrapped up untill Christmas.
Bob Tidbury
:drool: This is beginning to whet my appetite!
Does anyone know if these models can run on a Finetrax layout without any problems, please?
At the risk of slightly derailing the thread, how does one find out about Union Mills products and current offerings? They don't seem to have an online presence and whilst I'm not a snowflake millennial glued to an iPhone (too old) I tend to use the interwebz as my first port of call when looking for information.
One word of warning, though. I found Union Mills models to be addictive and, with the exception of my Peco 'Collett Goods', these are the only steam locomotives I use in British 'N' gauge.
I wonder what the chances are of putting that tender behind a City class? Since Bachmann seem to have not bothered in shrinking their City of Truro to N gauge, perhaps Colin would give it a go?
I think the tricky bit of making kits to fit UM chassis is that the loco chassis is integral with the body so although you can drop the tender drive out in its entirety a hack saw would need to be applied to the loco to separate chassis from body. Yes that's doable but getting a nice clean, square cut isn't as easy and would put people off. Of course if a kit came with a replacement block for the drivers...............
So what next? Within the parameters of simple 060s or 440s, my nice to have list might include a Caley 2F, McIntosh or Pickersgill 440, J37 or J36. I have produced 3 of those by hacking things, but a nice version would be welcome.
So what next? Within the parameters of simple 060s or 440s, my nice to have list might include a Caley 2F, McIntosh or Pickersgill 440, J37 or J36. I have produced 3 of those by hacking things, but a nice version would be welcome.
Things do change, but when I last spoke to Colin Heard on the subject he was firmly of the view that he would not be doing any more Scottish locos. I would love a D34 "Glen" and be quite happy to do my own tweaks to detail one of his (plus a chip) but I think he will elect for another region personally - maybe Eastern (GNR/GER) - there are a few classes of 0-6-0 tender locos there worthy of a look.
Roy
I keep on ( pre ordering ) City of Truro from Colin and the last time I spoke to him he said he wasnt planning to do it But Never Say Never were his exact words ,so if we keep on asking he might do it as as several.members have said it is very similar to the Dukedog and ad he has now got the outside frames sorted hes half way there and if Karhedron has said it would look nice with that tender then thats good enough for me ,and if Colin does do it perhaps we could then do a bulk order to Narrow Planet for some etched name and number plates to really make it a nice looking model.
Bob Tidbury
I wonder what the chances are of putting that tender behind a City class? Since Bachmann seem to have not bothered in shrinking their City of Truro to N gauge, perhaps Colin would give it a go?
So what next? Within the parameters of simple 060s or 440s, my nice to have list might include a Caley 2F, McIntosh or Pickersgill 440, J37 or J36. I have produced 3 of those by hacking things, but a nice version would be welcome.
Things do change, but when I last spoke to Colin Heard on the subject he was firmly of the view that he would not be doing any more Scottish locos. I would love a D34 "Glen" and be quite happy to do my own tweaks to detail one of his (plus a chip) but I think he will elect for another region personally - maybe Eastern (GNR/GER) - there are a few classes of 0-6-0 tender locos there worthy of a look.
Roy
Interesting. Looking at his previous lists and what comes up on FleeBay, I would not have said he had done any Scottish, except I think he did a J38 ? There has been some North Eastern Railway, the Gresley J39 and Fowler 2P were to be found in Scotland but not uniquely so. The B12/3 variation was not a regular Scottish performer if at all. The Director is a possible, and while he went for the English version, I might well go for it if he does another run. But nothing specifically Caley or NBR those being the pre grouping companies whose locos survived to BR days in decent numbers. I too would welcome a Glen. Though I have converted a BHE Claude into a reasonable likeness as I could not source a Hughes kit at sensible prices. Still he will do what he will do, and that will be what he reckons he can sell.
My wish list would include, in order, ex LSWR A12 (0-4-2) and 4-4-0s D15 and S11, followed by K10 or L11.
The recent BRM article on Union Mills reveals that Colin does pretty much everything himself in house and that his initial production run is 250 units with presumably the expectation of further runs as demand permits. With that in mind he may not have the capacity for commissions nor an appetite for very obscure prototypes. No harm in asking though!
I'd have thought it's such a famous class of locomotive, and so similar to the 'Dukedog', that there's a very good chance of this happening. Whether the tender would actually be realistic there is a whole other question though!
On the other hand, I am surprised by the lack of kits available for Union Mills chassis and tenders. Given places like of Langley Models still have any number of kits for old, rubbish chassis -- surely it'd be much nicer to have whitemetal, 3D printed, or even etched brass kits that could be slapped onto the infinitely better Union Mills equivalents.
Cheers, NeMo
I'm pretty sure he'll also sell the bare motors without the tenders. I've had it in my mind for a while that I'll upgrade some of the older motors to the newer, better ones, with better slow speed control.
There has been a mention of City of Truro. Now that would surely be a rule 1 popular locomotive. I could even run it as a preserved train among some diesels.
There has been a mention of City of Truro. Now that would surely be a rule 1 popular locomotive. I could even run it as a preserved train among some diesels.
Indeed. It can even be used in preservation in different eras. CoT famously returned to mainline operation in the late 50s. It frequently worked on the DN&S line in between railtour duties.
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Hi tenOG,
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Alan
There has been a mention of City of Truro. Now that would surely be a rule 1 popular locomotive. I could even run it as a preserved train among some diesels.
Indeed. It can even be used in preservation in different eras. CoT famously returned to mainline operation in the late 50s. It frequently worked on the DN&S line in between railtour duties.
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What it is hauling in that photo? Crimson Cream obviously, but Collett coaches maybe?
I've found a nice easy way to convert my Union Mills Collett coupler pockets to accept the Dapol Easyshunts and if anyone is interest I'll write up a tutorial. Guess it would work for most of the UM locos.
I've found a nice easy way to convert my Union Mills Collett coupler pockets to accept the Dapol Easyshunts and if anyone is interest I'll write up a tutorial. Guess it would work for most of the UM locos.
If Colin does do City of Truro he could do it as a deluxe edition with etched name and number plates but I doubt if he will do it with the full lining so people like our Ozymandias will have lots of commission work lineing them for members like me who definately dont have the skill he has ,I would only ruin one if I tried .
So get some good photos out Ozy and start checking colours and dimensions of the lineing just in case Colin does make it .
Bob Tidbury
If Colin does do City of Truro he could do it as a deluxe edition with etched name and number plates but I doubt if he will do it with the full lining ...
Colin could even do City of Truro in BR black as it appeared on the cover of the April 1985 edition of Steam Railway magazine.
With Hornby producing a J36 in 00 wouldn't it be nice to see one in N too, such a long lived and useful class of locos.
Roy
Our Ozy is going to be very busy soon doing repaints into full lining and livery so he better get some decent photos sorted out ready for the deluge of customers .
Bob Tidbury
Our Ozy is going to be very busy soon doing repaints into full lining and livery so he better get some decent photos sorted out ready for the deluge of customers .
Bob Tidbury
Just as well my locos are already in the queue then!
:sweat:
I'd like to see a South Eastern 4-4-0 like a D or L1. With the birdcages due it could help with sales :) They have a great track record with large 4-4-0's!I'm not heavily into SR & constituents, but I have a sneaking admiration for the D1/E1/L1 rebuilds, not to decry the magnificent preserved D 4-4-0 - but I very much doubt Colin would tackle that superb livery.
Not for GW purists I agree, but I did think she looked rather smart ... could be tempting :-[
I'd like to see a South Eastern 4-4-0 like a D or L1. With the birdcages due it could help with sales :) They have a great track record with large 4-4-0's!
If Colin does do City of Truro he could do it as a deluxe edition with etched name and number plates but I doubt if he will do it with the full lining ...I would have thought the 1957 restored ornate 1904 livery would be a very popular version.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/GWR_3440_City_of_Truro_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1479746.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/GWR_3440_City_of_Truro_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1479746.jpg)
Get both, easy :)I agree!
Get both, easy :)I agree!
Decisions, decisions...What's to decide? I want one because I want one, even 'though I don't "do" GWR.
Not OK. I want to know whether the frames are red or black ?I'm sorry if you found my attempt to be helpful didn't fit the bill.
Colin is not planning an Indian Red frame version as it would be too costly and difficult to make in quantity. I'm buying two and painting the second.
the livery as returned to service in 1957 was the earlier green with Indian red frames GWR in scroll form and double lining numbered 3440.
I don’t think that this will be the livery the model will be in though. Daveg
Bob Tidbury
Being a transition era modeller I'm only getting a CoT as I want such an iconic loco but obviously the livery is wrong for me. Can I ask the collective what sort of coaches would have run behind CoT as a 'preserved special' in, say, the mid 60s? I have MK1s and maroon Colletts available. As Matt seems to be the main forum guru in this respect I'll tag him @Karhedron ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=207[/url])
Many thanks, Matt. I can't buy a CoT and then just display it in a cabinet or siding so will work on the theory it was stored in working condition to be brought out every now and then for a gallop.
Maroon MK1 stock it will be.
See also....................
[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43155.msg534526;topicseen#msg534526[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43155.msg534526;topicseen#msg534526[/url])
Might I suggest future comments about CoT are posted there and we'll leave this thread for when Colin announces what his next model will be?
See also....................
[url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43155.msg534526;topicseen#msg534526[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43155.msg534526;topicseen#msg534526[/url])
Might I suggest future comments about CoT are posted there and we'll leave this thread for when Colin announces what his next model will be?
Does Colin post on here ?
Craig
Colin doesn't do outside cylinders or valve gear (too fiddly?) and he doesn't do tank engines (pickup strategy).
Wouldn't it be great if they did the coronation class with streamliningThat makes 2 of us :thumbsup: ;D
Wouldn't it be great if they did the coronation class with streamlining
That makes 2 of us :thumbsup: ;D
Langley made a Streamlined Coronation kit which was very easy to put together on a Minitrix Britannia chassis and Fox do the transfers for blue or crimson https://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/lms-coronation-scot-streamlined-blue-locomotive-livery
Langley made a Streamlined Coronation kit which was very easy to put together on a Minitrix Britannia chassis and Fox do the transfers for blue or crimson https://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/lms-coronation-scot-streamlined-blue-locomotive-livery
Yes but I don't think the bogies were exactly in the right place. I believe it did look a bit nose heavy.
Bob
Colin doesn't do outside cylinders or valve gear (too fiddly?) and he doesn't do tank engines (pickup strategy). How about a Turbomotive?A distinctive & unusual tender loco with no outside cylinders or valve gear? Hmm.
Sheldon
Colin doesn't do outside cylinders or valve gearI dont see any outside cylinders in the pic that @Dalek (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3135) showed :) LOL!
Colin doesn't do outside cylinders or valve gearI dont see any outside cylinders in the pic that @Dalek ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3135[/url]) showed :) LOL!
so, being late at night and nowt else to do I thought it might be amusing to GIMPshop out the conrod? (green arrow) as well, and leave just the coupling rod for Colin to model. But on close inspection I have a problem, what is the red-arrowed thing in the original pic ? has someone been pixel-pokeing already ??
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Colin doesn't do outside cylinders or valve gearI dont see any outside cylinders in the pic that @Dalek ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3135[/url]) showed :) LOL!
so, being late at night and nowt else to do I thought it might be amusing to GIMPshop out the conrod? (green arrow) as well, and leave just the coupling rod for Colin to model. But on close inspection I have a problem, what is the red-arrowed thing in the original pic ? has someone been pixel-pokeing already ??
([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/3699-241018234146.jpeg[/url])
That's the eccentric rod.
That's the eccentric rod.
@Atso ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213[/url])
:hmmm: Mr Stewart may have something to say about that