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Title: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2014, 08:25:18 AM
So......Work on the construction of my extension to Port Perran has entered the planning stage with serious work set to commence probably September time.
The name Trepol Bay isn't final yet but I do like it (any comments?).
The idea (as has been muted previously) is to provide a link from my fictitious Port Perran based deep in former GWR territory (near to the area between Hayle and Portreath) with the former LSWR "Withered Arm" at Wadebridge/Padstow.
I will assume that Port Perran connected with the former Chacewater to Perranporth/Newquay branch and that there was also a line from Wadebridge to Newquay (which would have been a joint GW/LSWR line).  This means that trains could run from Padstow/Wadebridge through to Newquay and on to Truro or West Cornwall.
My portion of the line will assume that Trepol Bay was halfway(ish) between Newquay and Wadebridge but on the coast.
I will be running a single line branch from the Eastern edge of my existing Port Perran layout and it will terminate in a fishing port station to be named Trepol Bay.
Trepol Bay will be on a portable baseboard of 4ft by 2ft 6ins and will contain a 2 road station (with runround facilities), a single line small goods yard and an engine servicing siding.
At a lower level (with a slight incline) I intend to have a small port facility with 3 or 4 sidings (and wagon turntable) at sea level and with a harbour alongside. Perhaps a small fish processing factory and several small warehouses.
I will assume that Trepol Bay was a fishing port so will provide fish traffic and other general port traffic for onward transmission to West Cornwall (GW) and up country (LSWR).
I intend to have a mix of former SR/WR locos stock and as for Port Perran the era will be 1959-64 (very loosely).
I'm not one for using track planning software I'm afraid - I prefer to lay track and see what it looks like so no plans to display. Hopefully I will have electric points from the outset.
The single line branch from Port Perran to Trepol bay will include a  branch station with a passing loop. I intend to have a single line girder bridge (perfhaps on a slight curve) on the approach to Trepol Bay station (probably of 15 inch length so pretty substantial scale wise.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
It sounds very interesting, Martin, and Trepol Bay has that 'ring' to it for that part of the world. As I can run WR and SR stuff on my main layout, I'll be very interested to see what stock you'll be running, especially as the SR is being catered for more lately in RTR. (It could get expensive, though ;))
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on May 23, 2014, 12:39:49 PM
That sounds really cool.
You've got me thinking about module two, when I'm nowhere near finishing the first one!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bealman on May 23, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
Yep, I like it, Martin. I'm up in the NE at the moment and it reminds me of points SW. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2014, 08:08:45 PM
. As I can run WR and SR stuff on my main layout, I'll be very interested to see what stock you'll be running, especially as the SR is being catered for more lately in RTR. (It could get expensive, though ;))
Well, I already have most of the WR locos that I will need - mainly Praries and panniers on the steam side and Class 22 and units on the diesel front.
As for SR , I think the UM T9 will be a must along with the new N Class Mogul (when its released). I may also be tempted by a terrier (even though its not "native to the area").
Possibly a couple of standards too.
As for stock, again I have most of the WR stuff but have hardly any SR stock so far.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
Oh and by the way................... although again not used on the N Cornwall line, I do like the Q1 !!
And , of course, Rule 1 applies as ever.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bealman on May 23, 2014, 09:16:30 PM
The Q1 is awesome. So ugly it's great. Saw the one in York last year!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I really don't consider the Q1 to be ugly, and think there are far more steamers deserving of that adjective (but that's another subject)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: belstone on May 24, 2014, 12:06:11 AM
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I really don't consider the Q1 to be ugly, and think there are far more steamers deserving of that adjective (but that's another subject)


Crosti 9F by any chance?

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=22329 (http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=22329)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 26, 2014, 06:54:06 AM
Really looking forward to this, Martin. I think the name is great. I have State Exams., today, and have friends in Prague from Saturday until Wednesday so won't be able to comment in detail until later this week.

If you want to run a Union Mills T9, (I'm also thinking of buying one), then you need to set your period start year back to 1961. Unfortunately, the UM T9 is not suitable for repainting as the preserved 120 which ran on specials in 1962 as the body shape is wrong, I think the splashers? Another possibility is a SR 700 'Black Motor'; I think UM do one? (See below.) Glad to see that, like me, you're going to buy an (expensive) N, too. BR Standard 2-6-4Ts can be picked up for reasonable prices on eBay (I have 3) but BR Standard 2-6-2Ts (I have one in BR WR Lined Green, correct for North Cornwall) and the Ivatt 2-6-2Ts (I have two, one push-pull fitted; again, correct for North Cornwall) -- which the BR Standard 2-6-4Ts replaced -- are pretty expensive even secondhand. SR diesels would include your Class 04 and a Class 33 but they did not, in reality reach North Cornwall, (well the Class 03s did not; Class 33s as they became did run on the North Cornwall Railway via Okehampton). The SR had Class 04s at Plymouth before the WR took over the ex-SR lines. BR SR Green Mark 1 coaches are easy to buy on eBay and some of the Bulleid coaches available are suitable for North Cornwall (the CK, SK, and BSK) but some are not.

Exmouth Junction Drummond 700 (Black Motors)
 
30315 11/54 - 3/58
30317 3/58 - 8/61
30327 2/59 - 5/61
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30689 9/61 - 11/62
30691 11/54 - 8/61 (allegedly hauled the 3.13 Perishables from Padstow in October 1960)
30697 9/61 - 11/62
30700 9/61 - 11/62
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bealman on May 26, 2014, 11:44:38 AM
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I really don't consider the Q1 to be ugly, and think there are far more steamers deserving of that adjective (but that's another subject)


Crosti 9F by any chance?

[url]http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=22329[/url] ([url]http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=22329[/url])

Hey I like Crosti 9Fs.... I have a Minitrix 9F that was converted for me. I'm thinking more like American steamers - but as NPN says, that's another subject! Definitely stick with your layout name!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 26, 2014, 05:32:08 PM
RE: Q1s and Crosti-boilered 9Fs, as my mother told us: If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 26, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
The proposed LSWR extension to Truro, (planned to be built in the 1890s*), would have headed SW from either Padstow or Wadebridge. (*By 1897, the GWR and the LSWR had made a private pact not to compete directly in Cornwall.) In 1893, the North Cornwall Railway proposed a line from near Padstow to Newquay and on to Truro to compete with the GWR. It would not have been LSWR-GWR joint but the GWR may, possibly, have been granted running powers if the line had been built as the line would have connected with the GWR outside Newquay and, presumably, also, at Truro.

Of course, after 1948, the WR would almost certainly have had running powers over the line and the WR took over in the 1950s and, again, in the 1960s, the ex-SR lines in Devon and Cornwall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 28, 2014, 03:58:43 PM
Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics are available at good prices on eBay (I had mine checked and serviced by Bob of BRLines) and the later, five-pole motor and Bachmann ones can be converted to DCC (by Douglas at Wickness). I plan to super-detail, renumber and rename at least some of my 6.

Then, how about a portion of the "ACE" running through to Trepol Bay, maybe only a BR Standard SR Green BCK or two BCKs off the "Atlantic Coast Express" running via Wadebridge added to a local from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay? Or Padstow? Rather, Penmayne! 8-) I'm going to presume a link with your line and Cant Cove and Penmayne (which are on an earlier fictional line from Wadebridge but NORTH of the River Camel). Shunting off a BCK  (or two at peak weekends) at Wadebridge though would be more likely, I think.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2014, 10:45:08 PM
Suitable RTR motive power (all used in North Cornwall) could include the following:

WR 45XXs: 4526, 4565, 4569; WR 4575s: 5521.
SR (ex-GWR) 57XXs: 3679, 4666, 4694 (allocated to Wadebridge)
SR (LMSR design) Ivatt 2-6-2Ts: 41230, 41270, 41272, 41275, 41284, 41295, 41308, 41320
SR T9s: 30120 (Withdrawn: 03/1962), 30313 (07/1961), 30338 (04/61), 30702 (10/59), 30704 (10/51), 30708 (12/57), 30709 (07/61), 30710 (03/59), 30711 (08/59), 30712 (11/58), 30715 (07/1961), 30717 (07/61), 30718 (03/61), 30719 (03/61), 30726 (08/59), 30729 (03/61). I am interested in having a model of one of the T9s that lasted to 1961 but I don't know which numbers are suitable for the Union Models variant.
Exmouth Junction Drummond 700 ('Black Motors'): 30315 11/54 - 3/58, 30317 3/58 - 8/61, 30327 2/59 - 5/61; 30689 9/61 - 11/62, 30691 11/54 - 8/61 (allegedly hauled the 3.13 Perishables from Padstow in October 1960), 30697 9/61 - 11/62, 30700 9/61 - 11/62. I am interested in having a model of one of the 700s that lasted to 1961 but I don't know which numbers are suitable for the Union Models one.
SR Bulleid Light Pacifics: 34004, 34007, 34008, 34014, 34015, 34021, 34023,  34030, 34031, 34032, 34033, 34034, 34036, 34038, 34058, 34060, 34061, 34062, 34065, 34066, 34069, 34070, 34072, 34074, 34076, 34078, 34079, 34080, 34081, 34083, 34084, 34085, 34096, 34107, 34110.
BR Standard 4-6-0s: 75005, 75008, 75022, 75025
BR Standard 2-6-4Ts: 80035, 80036, 80037, 80038, 80039, 80041, 80042, 80043, 80059, 80060, 80061, 80062, 80063, 80064, 80067
BR Standard 2-6-2Ts: 82030, 82042
BR Class 22: D6311, D6342, D6348 -- have this no. (renumbered)
BR Class 122 "Bubble Car" W55001, W55014. Mine is (re)numbered: W55017.
BR Class 121 "Bubble Car" W55026.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 01, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
Thanks for the info Chris.
I'm not bothered about running numbers particularly as long as the locomotive classes are reasonably correct. I don't want to get too many locos and with my 60th birthday coming up in 6 months I'm going to be patient and see if I get any surprises !
At the moment I'm thinking :
45XX (I already have 2)
GW Panniers - I have 3 (inc one in restored condition in GW green)
Class 03 which I already have.
Class 08 (already have).
Bubble Car (I have one)
Class 22 (I have one but would like another).

Wanted :
SR N Gauge
SR WC pacific (prob just one)
BR Standard 2-6-4 and 2-6-2 (one each)
Ivatt 2-6-2 (poss 2)
T9 (Union Mills)
Possibly an SR Black Motor

I'd also like an 0-4-0 Railbus and a GW 43XX (kits I believe ?).

And of course I've also just bought a new Q1 (using Rule 1).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2014, 03:46:32 AM
Regarding the WC pacific - I'd suggest waiting for the Dapol version to emerge, although it could be a long wait ::)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
I've decided to stick with upgraded Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics because I know they will run fine. Mine have all been through BRLines' 'works' and been upgraded, where necessary, for DCC fitting. A very kind friend got me a full set of detailing parts and new nameplates. As soon as more of my fleet of come Light Pacifics back from DCC-fitting at Wickness, I'll have a go at upgrading a couple. (I have a set of approximately N Scale plans so I can see where all the detailing should go!)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
You have a Class 04 which is fine for the SR but you 'need' a Class 03 for the WR. 8-)

For the others, I'd also like

SR N Gauge
SR T9 (Union Mills)
SR Black Motor (Union Mills, also, I believe)
An AC Cars Railbus (not easy to do in N; there was a discussion with Alan -- Etched Pixels. Maybe 3D printing on a Japanese tram chassis)
and a GW 43XX (yes, there is a kit; uses a modified GWR 2-6-2T chassis), plus a Grange (either a kit on a Hall chassis or the new (bound to be very expensive) Dapol one.

As a 43XX was, in reality, the heaviest steam loco. that could work from Bodmin Road to Bodmin General (after WW2 track upgrading), I really ought to have one!

I already have:
SR WC and BB Bulleid Light Pacifics (6, the minimum to authentically work a summer weekend WTT)
BR Standard 2-6-4Ts (3, to make up for only being able to afford 1 N)
BR Standard 2-6-2T (one in BR Lined Green)
Ivatt 2-6-2T (two: one P&P fitted)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
Glad to be of help, Martin. If possible, I like to have stock (locos, DMUs, SR Coach Sets) numbered as examples of real life ones which ran in North Cornwall but that is strictly optional.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 02, 2014, 11:54:01 PM
AC is still on the todo list to tackle. Likely to all slip a bit though. Some time ago we established there were about five houses we'd ever consider moving to. One of them came up for sale a bit over a year ago and we missed it, the one next door came up for sale recently and we are now at the surveys, accepted offers and running around like lunatics stage.

On the bright side the new model railway room has been allocated with management and the ongoing Snow Hill project will still fit with about a foot trimmed out of the offscene area.

But if anyone has been thinking I should do the AC cars cad and waiting for me, they might want to just get on with it !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on June 03, 2014, 05:03:20 AM
And there was me thinking you were purchasing the property next door so you could knock through and double the size of the layout ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: EtchedPixels on June 03, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
And there was me thinking you were purchasing the property next door so you could knock through and double the size of the layout ;)

Next door to the one we failed to buy not the one we live in alas, not I suspect that I could get away with removing the door from one room and adding a door the other side then persuading someone they'd like to live in the rest 8)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
Thanks, Alan. I think a far number of us would like a BR WR AC Cars railbus but it's not an urgent requirement.

Has anyone asked you about the GWR Ocean Saloons?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on June 03, 2014, 05:44:02 PM
And there was me thinking you were purchasing the property next door so you could knock through and double the size of the layout ;)

I built a summerhouse at the bottom of the garden last autumn, for us to enjoy the sun in the evenings......guess what I've filled it up with  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 03, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Meanwhile at Trepol Bay confirmation has arrived from Penmayne that a short rake of three BR SR Mk 1s (BSK, BCK, CK) have departed for Wadebridge behind 0-6-0PT 3679 from where they will be taken, by a light engine expected from Port Perran to Port Perran for stabling until the reconstruction of the line to Trepol Bay has been completed. With the local PWM department at Halwill Jn. also working on the upgrade of the line from Wadebridge to Cant Cove and Penmayne, resources are having to be brought in from the WR elsewhere. Penmayne has been lent Class 14 D9501 for use on PWM trains and rumour has it that a Q1 is going to be tried out at Port Perran for use on the line to Trepol Bay!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 15, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
Thanks for that Chris. I missed that post earlier in the month.   Very apt indeed.
Spent the day today on the clifftop at Godrevy soaking up the sun but popped into Kernow MRC on the way home to pick up some plasticard etc. The plan is to construct a former LSWR signal box as the spur to get me started on Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
Thanks, Martin. I have a visiting group of U.S. university students and their professors in Prague, for two weeks, they are all very nice but I won't get any (or much) railway modelling done for two weeks. From tomorrow, the students start on their business consultancy projects but today my two young female colleagues (our Assistant Deans) and I took them to Pilsen and a tour around the Pilsner Urquell brewery but that meant an 8:30AM departure! Very good beer though. 8-)

I hope the plans I sent you will help you to construct a LSWR-pattern signalbox like the one still existing at Instow, perhaps?

I have cut out the printed version of a NCR station but need to stick the sections on cardboard and arrange them as the component building sections. I'm still collecting Humbrol paints ready to paint all my metal items once they have been spraypainted with an undercoat of grey. Now, I have guests from Slovakia so nothing will get done, today, either!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 19, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
so...I'm now thinking about adding a canal to Trepol Bay (perhaps bringing various commodities such as granite or broccoli or other things) from inland and perhaps taking sand (as a fertiliser) back the other way. I'd incorporate a sea lock as at Bude.
Also thinking of adding a small narrow gauge line coming in to Trepol Bay from the south. Perhaps will need some help re track and locos for that ??
Will be adding various warehouses in the port area together with a wagon turntable and hopefully (as I suggested before) I will have the station at a slightly higher level than the port itself.
Hopefully will think about the baseboard in a couple of weeks (after the Lostwithiel show) so that planning can begin in earnest.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on June 19, 2014, 03:56:02 PM
Just read this posting....... will follow with interest

Jon
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
Been to B&Q this morning to buy some timber for the baseboard for Trepol Bay.
Construction will involve the station being at a higher level than the harbour area plus I need to think about water at the front.
Hopefully, I can start cutting the timber this weekend.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Malc on July 19, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Really looking forward to this taking shape. You seem to have planned in lots of features that I would liked to have done, if I had the space. I managed a canal, but not a lock.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
Really looking forward to this taking shape. You seem to have planned in lots of features that I would liked to have done, if I had the space. I managed a canal, but not a lock.

Ditto, Malc.  :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 19, 2014, 05:37:32 PM
So........Baseboard constructed.
Here it is......
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TrepolBayBase_zps0d56493d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TrepolBayBase_zps0d56493d.jpg.html)
3ft by 2 fft.
I have laid a few bits of setrack just to give a very rough impression of what will be.
Trepol Bay Station (SR) will be at the higher level (2 platforms plus bay I think) and will link directly from the left edge to Port Perran fiddle yard but will also link to it's own portable fiddle yard for exhibitions.  I'm undecided yet as to whether to make the scenic break a tunnel or to use a girder bridge (or maybe both).
The idea is that trains can run through from Port Perran when the layout is in situ at home but can run in stand alone mode when at exhibitions (if invited of course).
The upper level will also include a very small goods yard and a carriage siding for stabling carriages during the holiday season.  Possibly also, a one loco engine shed.
The lower level is the port area and the very low level (bottom right) will be the harbour.
The lower level will also include a canal (it's marked on the baseboard) which will enter the harbour via a lock gate (as at Bude). Also running alongside the canal will be an old narrow gauge railway (disused but with a couple of old wagons in situ) probably formed of 009 track.
I will  have dockside cranes and warehouses and a wagon turntable.
The gap between upper and lower levels will be rock face in part (farther end) and gentle sloping wasteland (left edge).
The lower level track will join the station line just after the scenic break and will, of course, be gently inclined.

Any thoughts, comments, suggestions or possible unforeseen pitfalls will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 19, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
I'm really looking forward to this develop, Martin. You seem to have incorporated elements from some of the most interesting SR North Cornwall stations. This will look very attractive, I'm sure and will have plenty of operating interest.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on July 19, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
Nice one  PP .
I love the idea of those 3 levels and the 009 track alongside the canal.
Will be interested in seeing it develop  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
Sounds/looks like a cracking plan, and I'm sure the invites will be rolling in (nothing like having a deadline to work to ;))
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 07:21:41 AM
The carriage siding for stabling carriages during the holiday season will need a wooden box housing the water tap for attaching the hoses to refill the carriage water tanks, just like at Bude. Maybe, you could even model a hose lying on the ballast ready for use? (I've not seen that done.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bealman on July 20, 2014, 07:25:39 AM
Looking great!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 20, 2014, 08:25:52 AM
The carriage siding for stabling carriages during the holiday season will need a wooden box housing the water tap for attaching the hoses to refill the carriage water tanks, just like at Bude. Maybe, you could even model a hose lying on the ballast ready for use? (I've not seen that done.)

Sounds like a great plan.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 20, 2014, 08:22:39 PM
No progress today (been to the beach) except for the purchase of a tin of matt grey paint from B&Q as a first covering for the baseboard of Trepol Bay.
However, I am thinking of a change to my original trackplan.  I think I can now alter my idea of Trepol Bay being a terminus. I'm thinking of an eastward extension through the station (single line), through a scenic break road bridge and then extend the line maybe 4 ft (I just have the space) beyond the station on a curve into a two track fiddle yard.
Trepol Bay will then have 2 bay platforms plus the single through line.
That will give me the option to run LSWR trains from Wadebridge (imaginary) to Trepol Bay and on to Port Perran.
An N or T9 on such a train would look good I think.   
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 08:58:52 PM
Oh,that sounds even better, Martin. I think, later this year, the RCTS / LCGB may well be running an enthusiasts special from Waterloo to Wadebridge and then visiting Trepol Bay and Port Perran before returning to Wadebridge to visit Cant Cove and Penmayne! 8-) The only question is for which parts of its journey the train will be hauled by a Bulleid Light Pacific, a N and a T9!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2014, 07:59:12 AM
Let's hope there's no steam ban which will mean  we have to put up with a class 47.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 08:44:19 AM
The Area Manager at Wadebridge has been on the line to Waterloo and Paddington, Martin, this morning. If there is a steam ban, the WR has offered D1662 "isambard Kingdom Brunel" as the replacement for the scheduled Bulleid Light Pacific from Waterloo to Exeter. If there is no steam ban in the South-West, a Penmayne-based Exmouth Junction allocated Bulleid Light Pacific can take over for the Exeter to Wadebridge section. If there is a steam ban in the area through which the Exeter-Okehampton-Halwill-Launceston-Wadebridge line passes, D1662 will take the train on to Plymouth on the WR main line. If there is no steam ban in the area west of Plymouth, 2 X 45XXs or 2 X 61XXs from Bodmin shed (St. Blazey allocated) will then take the train on to Wadebridge. It is hoped that, at Wadebridge, a local N or T9 will then take over for the trips to Trepol Bay and Port Perran before returning to Wadebridge to visit Cant Cove and Penmayne. If neither a N or a T9 is available, 2 X 57XXs from Wadebridge shed will be rostered, one preserved in GWR livery as it has been sold to Bodmin GWS. If steam is banned in the Wadebridge area, a more powerful new SR Class 33 will be allocated in preference to a WR Class 22. The seats are selling out fast! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
Painted the baseboard for Trepol Bay with grey base coat. The green bit is the base colour for the harbour.
The upper level is removable as I need to be able to take it off to insert point motors once I have final positioning for the track etc.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TrepolBasePainted_zps60efdfbe.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TrepolBasePainted_zps60efdfbe.jpg.html)
Also paid a visit to the model shop today and  bought some track/points . Hopefully I can start some initial track laying tomorrow.  I must admit to not being one for track planning software. I have a firm layout plan in my head (and a rough sketch) and lprefer to see how the track looks in situ.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
The Area Manager at Wadebridge has been on the line to Waterloo and Paddington, Martin, this morning. If there is a steam ban, the WR has offered D1662 "isambard Kingdom Brunel" as the replacement for the scheduled Bulleid Light Pacific from Waterloo to Exeter. If there is no steam ban in the South-West, a Penmayne-based Exmouth Junction allocated Bulleid Light Pacific can take over for the Exeter to Wadebridge section. If there is a steam ban in the area through which the Exeter-Okehampton-Halwill-Launceston-Wadebridge line passes, D1662 will take the train on to Plymouth on the WR main line. If there is no steam ban in the area west of Plymouth, 2 X 45XXs or 2 X 61XXs from Bodmin shed (St. Blazey allocated) will then take the train on to Wadebridge. It is hoped that, at Wadebridge, a local N or T9 will then take over for the trips to Trepol Bay and Port Perran before returning to Wadebridge to visit Cant Cove and Penmayne. If neither a N or a T9 is available, 2 X 57XXs from Wadebridge shed will be rostered, one preserved in GWR livery as it has been sold to Bodmin GWS. If steam is banned in the Wadebridge area, a more powerful new SR Class 33 will be allocated in preference to a WR Class 22. The seats are selling out fast! 8-)

Think I'll book a seat on that train ! 
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
You're making fast progress, Martin. Thanks for the photo. I have not even got the track and points out of the box as I want to concentrate on painting. I will have to roughly lay out the track soon though as I need to plan where the insulation board sections will go so that they can be cut to shape. However, final track laying is still some way off. A friend of mine 'drew' up the trackplan for me in software after I had sketched it out. However, I had a real life station trackplan to follow so that made it easier. Only the Castle Estates branch to the fiddleyard and the fiddleyard had to be added, plus, later the single-road loco shed. Have you had any thoughts on how you will construct the buildings?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 21, 2014, 08:43:43 PM
Buildings will be mainly scratch built (using mainly plastikard and card) but will also possibly use some Metcalfe kits and also perhaps some Kestrel or ratio kits which may be altered somewhat.
Trepol Bay station platforms will be first. I am at present undecided as to whether to go for a platform mounted signal box. Platform mounted is my choice but It will depend on how it all looks when the platform itself is in situ.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 21, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
Once I have the track roughly positioned I can build the (curving station platforms). As I'm (largely) following a real-life North Cornwall LSWR station, I'll be building a platform-mounted Type 4 signalbox, however, you have a range of choices. I agree, once your platforms are in place then you can plan where the buildings will go. Again, I have a plan to follow which makes life easier (and I can see in my mind's eye and my detailed plan where everything should go). However, there will be two new buildings: the "Station Hotel" and the "Tramway Inn" to plan and scratchbuild.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on July 22, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
Martin, you asked for comments . . . . FAR TOO SMALL !

only joking 'cos mines bigger than yours (wait for the comments)

Seriously I love the concept.

Keep on building !

Jon :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
So..........I've laid some setrack out as I envisage the layout of Trepol Bay station will be.
Here is my initial idea :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TrepolStationtrackplan1_zps15af895c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TrepolStationtrackplan1_zps15af895c.jpg.html)

What we have is :
The white card is roughly the platform layout . Main station building will be to the right. This will be and LSWR station and I'd very much like a platform mounted signal box. The one in the picture is only a dummy (not the real thing). I'm undecided if it should be where I've put the dummy or should it be a conventional raised box where the card with the S is laid ?
The track on the left is a through road from Port Perran (physical connection eventually) to Wadebridge (fictional). This will carry through trains from East (LSWR) to West (WR).
The bay line will carry locals (mainly WR) to Port Perran and Truro.
The loop allows panniers/praries to run around their train.
The siding to the right is to house berthed SR stock in Summer months or busy periods.
The short siding at the top will be a single road loco shed/servicing facility.
Track to the lower (harbour) level will run in where the two small curved bits of track are placed. I've decided that the harbour area will incorporate the Trepol bay small goods yard facility (probably including a coal yard).

I'd be grateful for any comments,thoughts or suggestions for alterations. If the whole thing looks impractical please say so.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2014, 08:49:20 PM
Martin, you asked for comments . . . . FAR TOO SMALL !

only joking 'cos mines bigger than yours (wait for the comments)

I'm keeping quiet !! :doh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
Looks a good layout, Martin. Wadebridge had two signal boxes, one at approximately where your track to the lower (harbour) level will run in (where the two small curved bits of track are placed) and the best known signalbox right at the end of the longest platform. However, as Trepol Bay is, of course, fictional, it might be better to have a ground-mounted signalbox at B as that would be the position where the signalman would have the best overall view of the station area under his control. Alternatively, you could have a platform-mounted signal box at the end of the longest platform where the signalman would also have a good view of the station area under his control. Then the second signalbox could control the line down to the harbour as well as the loco shed and carriage siding.

I agree it would make sense for the harbour area to incorporate the Trepol Bay small goods yard facility (and a coal yard would be normal). To the coal yard you could add some fuel oil tanks for local shipping.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 22, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
Thanks for the comments Chris.
Much as I like the idea of a platform mounted box, I may just go with the idea of a single box which will allow a good all round view. Perhaps alongside the locoshed area?   But then again ???
I'll sleep on the plan tonight before making any firm decisions.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 22, 2014, 09:36:50 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I agree, a single single box which will allow a good all round view would be more realistic. I would place it a bit further up than point B, almost half-way to the set of points into the loco shed and carriage siding, so that the signalman would have a good overall view of all the points. However, that still leaves control of the track to the lower (harbour) level?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on July 22, 2014, 09:40:58 PM
Plan looks straightforward and uncomplicated. I like it :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Greybeema on July 23, 2014, 10:46:23 AM
As a wee suggestion:- Could you move the point at card S nearer to the throat.  Extend the platform (more room for you specials) and put the SB at the end of the platform?

I always think short trains look so much better in long platforms.  It enhances their "localness"..
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Danfilm007 on July 23, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
Like the station plan mate
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
As a wee suggestion:- Could you move the point at card S nearer to the throat.  Extend the platform (more room for you specials) and put the SB at the end of the platform?
I always think short trains look so much better in long platforms.  It enhances their "localness"..
A good point. Will probably have a little play this evening to that effect. Also, I intend to make the platform just a tad wider.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Greybeema on July 23, 2014, 12:30:10 PM
Thinking about it more I think I would lay the track as, in effect a double line.  With the line that leads into the bay extending the length of the board into a headshunt.  There would be a crossover as entry from the branch into the bay which would split again to act as your release road and entry into the depot.  You carriage siding would then branch off that.

That's just my musings but it's your railway.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 01:27:11 PM
Thinking about it more I think I would lay the track as, in effect a double line.  With the line that leads into the bay extending the length of the board into a headshunt.  There would be a crossover as entry from the branch into the bay which would split again to act as your release road and entry into the depot.  You carriage siding would then branch off that.


I think that is an excellent idea and, again, there is a prototype in that Wadebridge had what looked like a double line (actually, two parallel single lines) leading into the station.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on July 23, 2014, 03:25:33 PM
I think that is an excellent idea and, again, there is a prototype in that Wadebridge had what looked like a double line (actually, two parallel single lines) leading into the station.

(sigh)....ok.......I have to ask.......why are two single lines not a double line?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 07:02:23 PM
I think that is an excellent idea and, again, there is a prototype in that Wadebridge had what looked like a double line (actually, two parallel single lines) leading into the station.

(sigh)....ok.......I have to ask.......why are two single lines not a double line?

OK, I'll try to, briefly, explain. One mile south-east of Wadebridge, the Wadebridge to Launceston, Halwill, Meldon Jn. Okehampton and Exeter (North Cornwall line) was joined by the line from Bodmin and Boscarne Jn., both single tracks then running parallel to one another along the Camel Valley and, consequently, looking like a double-track line. (One line had sufficed until 1907.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on July 23, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
Right....words of one syllable I understand  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2014, 08:19:33 PM
OK, I have made a few alterations, but nothing radically different. I'll post another picture when I've sourced one or two more pieces of track and another point so that I can add the rough layout for the harbour area for consideration.
I've got to then tackle the slightly awkward issue of joining Trepol Bay to Port Perran but with a removable "bridging" section  which has a slight downslope for one of the two tracks to reach the harbour.
There will be a junction for this on the bridging section with a very small country halt nearby.
In order to do that I want to get the Trepol Bay trackwork completely finalised and operational and then add some legs to the Trepol Bay baseboard.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 23, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
Looking forward to the new pictures, Martin. Adding a a very small country halt  (like on the Torrington line?) is an excellent idea.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 23, 2014, 10:39:19 PM
OK, I'll try to, briefly, explain. One mile south-east of Wadebridge, the Wadebridge to Launceston, Halwill, Meldon Jn. Okehampton and Exeter (North Cornwall line) was joined by the line from Bodmin and Boscarne Jn., both single tracks then running parallel to one another along the Camel Valley and, consequently, looking like a double-track line. (One line had sufficed until 1907.)

There are plenty of other examples too including on the Isle of Wight and modern ones such as the tracks into Barry Island while the preserved railway was there.

Quite a few modern ones exist simply because junctions have been eliminated to reduce cost/risks and the tracks diverge somewhere earlier where there is also suitable pointwork.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on July 25, 2014, 07:55:05 AM
Hello Martin

For my planning I made up card and paper points which helped a little.... but when I tried to lay it out using the real thing all the planning went out the window.  Ah well !

I now think mine is turning out to be a bit of a train set and less a model railway

So . . . . . . keep on inspiring me with your great work !

Cheers :beers:

Jon
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
I can't get on with too much planning with card or computer programs. I like to see what the track looks like on the board !
Keep up your good work Jon - I feel a lovely layout will be the outcome in the long term :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2014, 09:53:47 PM
 No progress made this evening.
Got in from work late so just been running a few trains on Port Perran.
45XX prarie just left (bunker first) with a two coach local stopper (plus van) bound for Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 10:01:46 PM
Now would that be the van collecting beer casks from the Castle Ales brewery by any chance? 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 25, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
Certainly is. I have the Cornish Arms right across the road from Port Perran station with a lot of thirsty customers waiting for the van to return !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 25, 2014, 10:12:27 PM
The brewery workers are working overtime as demand is very high in this heatwave. That was Lady Penelope of Cant Castle's excuse for ordering a ferry van full of Kronenbourg for her garden party: the brewery must supply its loyal publicans, first!

The yardmaster at Wadebridge has confirmed that as soon as the van has arrived from Port Perran it will be added to the 07.09 (57XX Light Engine -- my sole Dapol one) from Wadebridge to Penmayne 07.18 arrival (LE). The van will then be added by the former LE to the 2P Set No. 981: BSK+BCK (2) which it will head departing Penmayne at 07.32, arriving at Cant Cove at 07.36, departing at 07.38, after dropping off the van in the goods yard bay to be picked up by the Castle Estate pickup goods which will take it to the Castle Brewery for loading. As there are a lot of casks waiting for loading when the brewery goods out department opens at 8AM the pickup goods has been scheduled to leave Cant Cove as soon as a loco can be found a path through the Summer weekend specials!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 26, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
The Head Brewer of the Castle Brewery, Cant Castle, was in the "Railwayman's Arms", Penamayne, yesterday evening ensuring that, despite the record production this month and the very high temperatures, the quality of the ales delivered is as high as ever. He got talking with the (off-duty) shedmaster over a pint of 'Castle Golden Best Bitter' who informed him that, based on the good reports concerning the unwanted Class 14 sent to Port Perran another Class 14, almost brand new D9501, unwanted by Cardiff Canton, was being sent to Penmayne for use on PWM trains in connection with the WR upgrading of the Bodmin - Wadebridge - Penmayne line for higher axle-loadings and was due to arrive that very night, around 22:45. In return for a crate each of bottled 'Castle Extra Hoppy Bitter', the Bristol Traction Inspector, who had arrived to train local drivers, and the senior Penmayne driver have agreed to make their first driver training run early Saturday morning (before 08:00 as soon as there is a path) to Cant Cove and the Castle Estate branch and back. Whilst at the end of the branch, they will collect the train of BR 12T Ventilated Vans loaded with casks and deliver them to Cant Cove goods yard where they will stable the Class 14 until Sunday as the line is completely full with scheduled trains for the rest of the day. The scheduled 10.30 ex-Penmayne goods, hauled by a N or a 80XXX BR standard 4MT tank loco. arriving at Cant Cove at 10.35 will shunt the yard, pick up the beer vans for Wadebridge and then leave at 11.10, arriving at Wadebridge at 11.17 from where the van for Trepol Bay will be collected by the next scheduled train. Of course the casks will then need to be left in the pub cellar, placed in their serving position and left to stand for 24 HOURS before tapping and left for a further 24 HOURS AFTER tapping before serving. I hope the "Cornish Arms" right across the road from Port Perran station has enough ale to last the weekend!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
Yes, trade at the Cornish Arms has been very brisk but the landlord has enough stock to last till at least Wednesday.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 09:46:47 AM
That's a relief. The Head Brewer at the Castle Brewery would hate it if the landlord of the "Cornish Arms" had to serve beer that had not settled properly or, even worse, ran out of beer altogether! Remember that song: "A Pub with No Beer"?

A picture of D9501 with one of Wadebridge's 20T ex-LNER Toad E's in BR grey (to carry the two crates of beer bottles back in) will be posted on the Cant Cove thread. (The van still needs the roof to be weathered but, otherwise, apart from a little very light sanding -- too much paint in places -- application of the black data panels and white handrails, I'm quite pleased with it, for a first attempt). The next Toad E repaint will be heading for Trepol Bay, on transfer; it can be either in BR grey (would be E162261 or E178583) or BR Red Oxide (1949 scheme), as you wish. The third will be in BR Red Oxide as Wadebridge's E178583.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 04:27:44 PM
Bought a spur of the moment "loco" today. Second hand , to run shuttle services between Trepol Bay and Port Perran.
Picture later  :confused2:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on July 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM
Come on Martin . . what is it ?

An american BIG BOY perhaps . . . that would so suit your Port Perran setting and just the job to haul up the hill from the docks  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on July 27, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
 :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Come on Martin . . what is it ?
An american BIG BOY perhaps . . . that would so suit your Port Perran setting and just the job to haul up the hill from the docks  :claphappy:
Not quite that big !!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 07:54:54 PM
So....visited Mevagissey today as we had to drop some things off at a local shop.
Went into the model shop which previously had been a bit limited with N gauge stock and I was pleasantly surprised.
They had some second hand stock and saw this little beauty which I HAD to buy for £45-00.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/railcar2_zps7595a491.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/railcar2_zps7595a491.jpg.html)
Really helpful chap in the shop who took his time to test and run the loco at slow and fast speeds.
Got it home and REALLY pleased with its performance - crawls well at very slow speed.
Not typical for Trepol Bay but I shall imagine that it's on test running off season locals between Port Perran and Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
Also visited Charlestown harbour today and took a few photos for inspiration for Trepol Bay.
I'm sharing just a couple for interest :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/charlestown2_zps2ba013b4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/charlestown2_zps2ba013b4.jpg.html)
Dockside warehouses built into the harbour retaining wall.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/charlestown1_zps1d73348d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/charlestown1_zps1d73348d.jpg.html)
An old shute which I believe was used for loading china clay into boats from road vehicles.
I'd like to incorporate both of these into Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 08:28:52 PM
So....visited Mevagissey today as we had to drop some things off at a local shop.
Went into the model shop which previously had been a bit limited with N gauge stock and I was pleasantly surprised.
They had some second hand stock and saw this little beauty which I HAD to buy for £45-00.
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/railcar2_zps7595a491.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/railcar2_zps7595a491.jpg.html[/url])
Really helpful chap in the shop who took his time to test and run the loco at slow and fast speeds.
Got it home and REALLY pleased with its performance - crawls well at very slow speed.
Not typical for Trepol Bay but I shall imagine that it's on test running off season locals between Port Perran and Trepol Bay.


Very nice, Martin. I have one, too, bought DCC-fitted, in BR Green livery (for which I paid rather more than you, I recall, on eBay, last year, so you really did get a bargain) plus one in preserved GWR livery (not DCC-fitted, not a priority) which will be part of the Bodmin GWS fleet at Bodmin General shed.

My excuse for having one is that, when W30W was withdrawn, sometime between 1960–62, it was overhauled using parts from withdrawn examples at Worcester depot (the following ended their days there: 5,6,20,22,23,24,26,32) and then, similarly, sent for trials running off season locals between Penmayne, Cant Cove, and Wadebridge, with occasional extensions to Bodmin General and Bodmin Road, early mornings and late evenings. Later, when the Class 122 single car DMU 'Bubble car' W55017 arrived at Plymouth Laira for local use from Penmayne diesel depot, W30W was kept as a backup, at Penmayne. If yours is also W30W, then the through service between Port Perran and Trepol Bay could, sometimes, be extended to Wadebridge and then on to Penmayne as a holidaymakers' special; maybe on summer Saturdays? (The Isle of Wight in BR steam days, used to have a special holidaymakers' train that ran across the island.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 27, 2014, 08:32:39 PM
Thanks, Martin. The two photos are very helpful. The differing stone colours will be useful as I'm trying to finish the stone overbridge sides. The chute is not quite the same as I have in mind for the larger one for stones at Cant Cove but, again, the colours are handy to refer to.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on July 27, 2014, 11:32:22 PM
Very very nice . . . . and a good price to boot.  And it has to be seen running on your layout.  After all . . . it is your layout

Jon
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 28, 2014, 08:02:05 AM
Thanks Jon.
Will probably have a bit of a play, sorry run in, with the railcar this evening.
And Chris, yes it is W20.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bealman on July 28, 2014, 08:12:25 AM
Love that green banana! Sadly not produced anymore. If it's running well, sounds like a great buy. And remember... Rule 1 rules!  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 28, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
Any secondhand non-DCC fitted Graham Farish model motive power I always ask the seller to send to BRLines, on my behalf, for a test / service / repair so i'm sure that I won't have any problems. Anything sent to Wickness Models for DCC-fitting always gets a light service as part of the DCC fitting. So, fingers crossed, all my stock SHOULD work without any problems.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 29, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
Once I've sorted out my beer casks, I'll take a photo of W30W, with an unusual tail load, hired for the Castle Brewery workers' day trip to Port Perran Bay as a special 'thank you' from the Head Brewer for all the (paid) overtime they willing put in because of the recent heatwave!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 31, 2014, 10:25:57 AM
On Cant Cove (and Penmayne), as promised, there are 2 pictures of W30W, fresh from an overhaul at Swindon Works using the best parts from its withdrawn sisters at Worcester loco shed, setting off for Port Perran with a Penmayne driver and Worcester depot traction inspector conveying a group of staff from the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove on a day out. W30W has a "Castle Brewery" dark blue liveried wagon behind carefully loaded with casks of "Castle Ale" and Alsace-brewed "Kronenbourg" lager (for the tourists) for delivery to the pubs in Port Perran and Trepol Bay (such an opportunity for quick delivery was too good for the brewery manager to miss).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 10, 2014, 08:36:57 PM
Work on Trepol Bay has been delayed by holidays so no progress.
However, I had to go "up-country" today for a family visit and popped into East Somerset Models on the way home (which is a fairly frequent pit-stop).
Bought the Metcalfe stone built loco shed for Trepol Bay plus some Peco platform edging walls.
Also came across some self-assembly kits by P.G Models (whom I hadn't come across before) :
www.pg-models.co.uk/ (http://www.pg-models.co.uk/)
It is mainly Military stuff but I bought (for £2.00) a pack containing 2 X 3/4 ton trailers which I can assemble and paint up as agricultural trailers . I thought for £2 great value.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2014, 09:04:09 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I'm sure you'll be getting back to Trepol Bay, soon. Some of the PECO N - Lineside Kit: NB 27: PLATFORM EDGING: CONCRETE TYPE plus the matching ramps, are, IMHO, pretty essential for any SR station along with the RATIO N: 238 2 Concrete Huts and RATIO N: 219 Concrete Fencing, Gates plus, if the station is busy enough, one of the RATIO N: 222 Concrete Footbridge kits.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on August 11, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
Hello Martin

I almost went for the stone loco shed but instead have ordered the double brick one . . . . bet yours turns out prettier than mine having seen your work

All the best  :wave:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 PM
Hello Martin

I almost went for the stone loco shed but instead have ordered the double brick one . . . . bet yours turns out prettier than mine having seen your work

All the best  :wave:

Stone not only looks, IMHO, nicer, it's also typical for Cornwall. 8-) I'm sure Martin will do an excellent job.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 12, 2014, 07:27:51 AM
Hello Martin

I almost went for the stone loco shed but instead have ordered the double brick one . . . . bet yours turns out prettier than mine having seen your work

All the best  :wave:
I like the term prettier Jon.
Are you suggesting I add hanging baskets and flower tubs ?? :laugh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cycletrak9 on August 12, 2014, 07:36:12 AM
I recall an old rhyme about prefixes to Cornish names along the lines of "Tre-, Pol- and Pen- are true Cornish men". Two out of three sounds pretty authentic.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 12, 2014, 07:52:20 AM
Very much so .See the attached link :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Pol_and_Pen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Pol_and_Pen)
The GWR had a Duke class loco aptly named Tre-Pol and Pen.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 12, 2014, 08:16:05 AM
Hello Martin

I almost went for the stone loco shed but instead have ordered the double brick one . . . . bet yours turns out prettier than mine having seen your work

All the best  :wave:
I like the term prettier Jon.
Are you suggesting I add hanging baskets and flower tubs ?? :laugh:

Hmm, there will be a grassy area behind the loco. shed at Cant Cove with a path to the separate hut with the washroom and toilet facilities for the staff. I could put some of my flower tubs alongside the path. I'll place a bench in a shady corner, too. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 15, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Not much work on Trepol Bay lately as I've been busy but I have today received my first ex LSWR loco from Union Mills Models  to run on my Southern extension to Port Perran .  I've gone for the T9 in LSWR livery. I'm imagining it was restored (at Eastleigh) to LSWR livery and sent to North Cornwall to see out it's days before preservation.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/T9_zps97039248.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/T9_zps97039248.jpg.html)
This is my first Union Mills Loco and it definitely won't be my last. It is a superb runner straight from the box. Runs well at slow speeds and has no problems with Insulfrog points.
I like the weight of the loco. OK, so it hasn't got the detail of the new Dapol/Farish offerings but it looks like a T9, runs really well and seems to be nicely to scale.
And as for service fropm Union Mills - ordered at 2-30 yesterday afternoon and it arrived at 11.30 this morning (£3-00 Royal Mail first Class).
I also like the paperwork and info provided by Union Mills. A great advert for a small model maker. Really well done to them.
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Post by: port perran on August 20, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
So.......this evening I have started to the lay track into Trepol Bay station area.
I like to do this in sections so as to get it right and I always think the first bit is the most stressful. Get that right and the rest should follow. First bit checked and double checked (for alignment and neat/tidy/flat rail joints) then glued down and temporarily pinned till it's dry. Holes also drilled (and triple checked) for the two associated point motors.
Will now resist the temptation to add more track until the first section is dry !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 10:39:22 AM
Not much work on Trepol Bay lately as I've been busy but I have today received my first ex LSWR loco from Union Mills Models  to run on my Southern extension to Port Perran .  I've gone for the T9 in LSWR livery. I'm imagining it was restored (at Eastleigh) to LSWR livery and sent to North Cornwall to see out it's days before preservation.
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/T9_zps97039248.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/T9_zps97039248.jpg.html[/url])
This is my first Union Mills Loco and it definitely won't be my last. It is a superb runner straight from the box. Runs well at slow speeds and has no problems with Insulfrog points.
I like the weight of the loco. OK, so it hasn't got the detail of the new Dapol/Farish offerings but it looks like a T9, runs really well and seems to be nicely to scale.
And as for service fropm Union Mills - ordered at 2-30 yesterday afternoon and it arrived at 11.30 this morning (£3-00 Royal Mail first Class).
I also like the paperwork and info provided by Union Mills. A great advert for a small model maker. Really well done to them.


Very nice. Is that your T9, Martin, because it is in SR livery? It certainly looks very good and I am very pleased to read about its performance. I would like a T9, too, but one in late BR Crest livery (but there are problems with the UM model not being suitable for any of the last survivors in North Cornwall) or in preserved LSWR livery like (30)120 was. I suspect Rule One, in the form of an additional preserved T9, would have to be invoked! I need to check with Douglas at Wickness about DCC conversion. As I like the old Graham Farish locos. (not as detailed as today's models, I agree) as they look the part the lack of detail on UM locos. would not concern me either.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 10:41:22 AM
So.......this evening I have started to the lay track into Trepol Bay station area.
I like to do this in sections so as to get it right and I always think the first bit is the most stressful. Get that right and the rest should follow. First bit checked and double checked (for alignment and neat/tidy/flat rail joints) then glued down and temporarily pinned till it's dry. Holes also drilled (and triple checked) for the two associated point motors.
Will now resist the temptation to add more track until the first section is dry !

Excellent news. It will be a while yet before I get to that stage, I'm afraid. I only have just over a week left to complete painting and construction.
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Post by: port perran on August 21, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
Hi Chris
Hope you had a good break in England.
Yes, that is my T9 and yes it is in SR Livery. I did want a green one (simply because most of my other steam locos are in BR Black!). My Rule One excuse is that it was restored to SR Green livery at Eastleigh pending Preservation but there was a loco shortage in North Cornwall so it was despatched to the area as cover and ran in normal service for a few years.
As a loco it is a superb runner and service from UM is great so I'd recommend them. I may well be ordering the SR 700 0-6-0 !
And yes, track laying has started. I have a slightly tricky problem to resolve re linking Port Perran to Trepol Bay by means of TWO girder bridges side by side . One on the level taking the main running line into Trepol Bay Station and one (next to the first one) very slightly downhill taking the goods branch down to harbour level. I shall need to buy 2 or 3 of the Peco Girder Bridge kits.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Yes, thanks, Martin. I had a good break although the weather could have been better. I saw family and friends, visited some of my favourite pubs and enjoyed some good ales, visited Halfords (for aerosol paint: undercoat grey and red, masks and T-Cut -- a tube for use when removing numbers prior to renumbering stock) and picked up some parcels of N Gauge rolling stock and figures, including my Preiser horse drawn timber cart. I also travelled on SouthWest Trains and made a trip to Lymington.

I'm definitely planning to buy a T9 and a 700 'Black Motor' from UM, but probably not this year as I have plenty of existing locos at Wickness Models that need DCC fitting, first, and I still haven't bought a DCC controller (which I will do in a month or so as I have the mid-semester week in October to use it!).

I'd recommend looking at some of the German girder bridge kits as a change from the Peco ones.
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Post by: Greybeema on August 21, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
The T9 doesn't look too difficult to detail up yourself. 

Main things to sort (from a quick view on the inter web ) seem to be the Running Plate detail around the frames and smoke box mounting.  Then chop off / file off the hand rails and pipe work around the boiler and remake as separate items out of wire. 

Quick touch up with paint and "Robert is your mothers brother"...
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Post by: port perran on August 21, 2014, 08:14:33 PM
Track in Trepol Bay station now laid and stuck down (waiting for it to dry) but not the harbour area yet.
Over the next 2 -3 days will be linking (albeit on an initial temporary basis) Trepol Bay to Port Perran for testing purposes. So.......soon the first train will (hopefully) enter the as yet unbuilt Trepol  Bay Station.
Big decision as to which loco to use for the first test train  :doh:
The railway room has to be re-arranged a little to cope with this with Port Perran moving about 3 feet right. As it's portable(ish) that's not a problem.
As the railway room also doubles as the spare bedroom everything has to be able to slip under the beds when we have visitors.
 It will also mean that my control console changes position by about 5 feet but that will make overall operation easier in the long run (once Trepol Bay is wired up) as I'll be able to see both Trepol Bay and Port Perran.
I'm also raising the height of the Port Perran layout which will save back ache (hopefully) !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 21, 2014, 08:58:02 PM
Excellent progress, Martin. As it is an ex-LSWR station, it has to be your T9!
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Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
The first train has made it (somewhat carefully) into the site of Trepol Bay station !
I laid a test track today joining (a little precariously at the moment!) Port Perran fiddle yard to Trepol Bay station area. The lower level at Trepol Bay is yet to have track laid.
So.....a few photos :
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The track meanders from Port Perran Fiddle Yard upgrade to Trepol Bay
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The T9 leaves the fiddle yard and enters the new track. It wasn't actually the first loco (I tested it first off with an 08).
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The incline up to Trepol Bay station. This will have sides at the lower end in the shape of a small bricked wall and will become a girder bridge at the top end. At the moment there are no sides hence the rather careful initial runs. Didn't want to lose a loco off the side !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/photo22_zpsfb108de2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/photo22_zpsfb108de2.jpg.html)
The T9 stands in what will become Trepol Bay station.
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Aerial view of the station area at Trepol Bay.
Next step is to fully secure the incline (it is rather loosely screwed into place at the moment) then set a spur off of it to the port area of Trepol Bay. I can then design the track layout for the lower port area.
Glass of wine next as amongst the model railway work today we also had a new shed delivered and installed so I think a glass of vino is deserved.  :beers:
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Post by: Caz on August 22, 2014, 08:36:21 PM
Looking good Martin, certainly coming on well and that UM loco looks the business, getting tempted myself.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 08:51:45 PM
that UM loco looks the business, getting tempted myself.   :thumbsup:
Go for it, it's a great little loco - I'm really pleased with it.
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Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2014, 09:41:42 PM
Fascinating watching this come together, Martin. Please keep the pics coming :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
No one has mentioned my legs yet ???? ???
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Post by: Newportnobby on August 22, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
I was desperately trying to stop myself, Martin, but did spot them in the mirror (well, one of 'em) ;)
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Post by: jonclox on August 22, 2014, 09:53:28 PM
No one has mentioned my legs yet ???? ???
I know.
   :-[ We  didn't want to upset you by commenting on their poor looks.
 Do the knees often knock together?
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Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 09:57:48 PM
No one has mentioned my legs yet ???? ???
I know.
   :-[ We  didn't want to upset you by commenting on their poor looks.
 Do the knees often knock together?
All the time, I thought that was normal ! :laugh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 22, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
Fascinating watching this come together, Martin. Please keep the pics coming :thumbsup:
Trepol Bay is supposed to be a retirement project but I still have until late December before I (semi) retire so I'm trying not to rush ahead too quickly.  However.....I do get a bit carried away once a project is started. I'll just have to restrict my visits to Kernow Model rail Centre  for a while !!
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Post by: smileyjon on August 22, 2014, 10:55:16 PM
Lovely set of photo's Martin . . . This is looking like a real fun project :claphappy:

Hope you are enjoying it.

With regard to height of layout I've discovered, well for me that is at 6' 0 " . . . around 32-34 inches for building and working on but, and I think it was Nobby that first suggested it, about 42-44 inches for the enjoyment of running and watching the trains go by.  I assume your supports for Port Perran are at a set height anyway.  As for inclines . . . . The local line hits 1 in 38 and 1 in 39 in places and Calstock platform not only curves but drops near on 3 feet over it's very short length . . . however as you know, test the grades first !

SUCH FUN !

Catch you later, oh and p.s . . . . my two loco's covered all 3 miles of my track without a hitch  . . FINALLY ....and I'll never know what caused that short.

Good night  :wave:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2014, 07:09:00 AM
Excellent progress, Martin. It's looking a very good layout already. The SR livery T9 looks fine with the BR SR MkIs. The Castle Brewery wagon for deliveries to Port Perran and Trepol is almost finished and the ex-LNER brake van in early BR Bauxite Red is coming on nicely. The painters at Cant Cove loco. shed are on target to complete work this weekend so that they can be sent off to Wadebridge on Monday for onwards delivery. The brewery manager has promised them a crate of Summer Ale!
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Post by: port perran on August 25, 2014, 03:59:48 PM
Quite a bit of progress today and track laying is now complete (including the port area) and all fixed firmly in place. Plenty of test trains run with an assortment of rolling stock (just to ensure everything runs OK).
A few pics of progress below :
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A general view of the Trepol Bay track layout. The station is on the upper level with the track for the single road locoshed just behind the signal box.
The port area is lower and I have roughly painted in the canal (in green) and the narrow gauge railway (hopefully Z gauge) in brown. The wagon turntable is yet to be finished and will serve the fish packing factory and a small brewery.
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A general view with some stock in place.
The white fish wan is waiting to load fish whilst the other wagon next to the turntable is loaded with beer.
The pannier is about to leave the dockside with a short train.
The station area (upper level) is busy !
The two lines converge to run onto Port Perran layout. I have now removed the steepish incline from Port Perran to Trepol Bay and that run is now on the level.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tb3_zps6594da24.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tb3_zps6594da24.jpg.html)
The link to Port Perran (now level) with a DMU heading to Trepol Bay. You can see the uphill section from the port area to join the main line from Trepol Bay station.
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Close up of port area. Much of the trackwork will be inlaid into the ground (as is common in ports I think) and I'll achieve this by carding in between (as illustrated very roughly for now with a bit of cereal packet. I will be using mounting card in reality.
The siding in the port area with the Siphon G in will serve a builder's merchant.
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Close up of dock area with the canal which will enter via a lock and also showing the route of the narrow gauge track.

Much of Trepol Bay port area will be industrial buildings eventually and will include warehousing, a small brewery, fish packing, granite loading, a builder's merchant, a small coal yard and a car workshop (amongst others). Scenic work will commence shortly but probably with the station itself first to be done in LSWR style.
Any thoughts, comments or suggestions please ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on August 25, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Wonderful stuff Martin . . . love the wagon turntable idea.  There once was a wagon lift just down the road from me that was over 100 feet high although I don't think your level difference is quite that much.

Will it fit in the car with Port Perran . . . . and if you use the same level of detail to Trepol Bay. . . . .  :claphappy:

stay dry  :P
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 25, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
Very good progress, Martin. Constructing all those industrial buildings will take you a fair amount of time.

My only comment is that the loco. shed siding looks rather short as even if the loco. shed is only big enough to accommodate a 2-6-4T you still need to allow space for the coaling stage and the water tank and crane in front. The ash pile can be on the other side of the line from the coaling stage but you'll need (as at Bude) a section of concrete fence to reduce the nuisance of wind-borne ash. (At Bude the area for ash was on the other side of the open-ended single-road shed which ('4 bays' though) looks remarkably like the Ratio plastic kit model!) In short, I'd extend the loco. shed siding if I were you.

The Castle Brewery won't welcome the competition from the Trepol Bay Brewery! 8-)
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Post by: port perran on August 25, 2014, 04:27:36 PM
Thanks Chris and a fair point.
I'll extend the locoshed siding a little to accommodate everything as you mentioned.
I'm sure Castle Ales have a fine reputation and so won't be troubled by a new upstart !  I've yet to come up with a name for my brewery  :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 25, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
Will it fit in the car with Port Perran . . . . and if you use the same level of detail to Trepol Bay. . . . .  :claphappy:

stay dry  :P
Ah.....Port Perran is now retired from show duty . It's just too much hard work getting it up and down our stairs. Trepol Bay will be stand alone and will take over at shows in the future.  It's smaller and easier to transport.  I have the Carn Brea show (in July next) lined up if the layout is ready !!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 25, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
If the siding is long enough for two 2-6-4Ts or one T9 and a 0-6-0PT, I reckon that should be long enough. Have a look at some pictures of Bude loco. shed as it was. (If you need some, I'll email them.) Bude loco. shed was very short; it could accommodate a N class loco., standing just outside the shed entrance, alongside its coaling stage whilst I doubt whether the whole of the N would have fitted inside the shed, although its tender could be left sticking outside at either end of the shed, of course.

The Castle Brewery's Head Brewer will be booking a return to Trepol Bay to sample the competition's wares ASAP! Maybe a Guest Ales reciprocal arrangement?
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Post by: port perran on August 25, 2014, 04:52:51 PM
I shall check it out for length later. Thanks. I have lots of pictures of Bude and will probably model TB on it.
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Post by: port perran on August 25, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/HeadlandBrewery_zps044638ab.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/HeadlandBrewery_zps044638ab.jpg.html)
The very first load leaves the newly opened Headland Brewery at Trepol Bay headed for Port Perran and beyond to Truro.
The casks contain the new brew "Bolster Best Bitter" at 5.2% with the bottled version in the van.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 25, 2014, 08:59:48 PM
Cheers, Martin! 8-) The "Station Hotel" at Cant Cove will be ordering a sample cask for next month's guest ale! The Class 04 looks at home at a SR station.

The Headland Brewery is a great name as is "Bolster Best Bitter".
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Post by: port perran on August 27, 2014, 09:55:45 PM
Thanks. A crate of bolster will be sent up by train in due course.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on August 27, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
Thanks, Martin. The overhaul of the ex-LNER brake van and the open wagon for Castle Brewery deliveries to Port Perran is very nearly complete. Pictures are planned for tomorrow, before they set off for Wadebridge and then Port Perran.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on August 29, 2014, 11:37:53 PM
mmmm . . .

Now let me think  :hmmm:

Do I like how you're getting on and the skills you possess . . . or do I prefer another,

One that's just starting perhaps  :laugh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Thanks, Martin. The overhaul of the ex-LNER brake van and the open wagon for Castle Brewery deliveries to Port Perran is very nearly complete. Pictures are planned for tomorrow, before they set off for Wadebridge and then Port Perran.

Alas, the painters got a little behind but painting the handrails on the ex-LNER brake vans has begun and should be completed, today. The securing ropes (brown thread and plasticard) for the casks should also be done this weekend.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2014, 09:03:44 PM
The Cant Cove yardmaster has just informed the Wadebridge yardmaster, over a few pints of the last of the draught Castle Brewery "Summer Ale" in the Cant Cove Station Hotel, to expect two overhauled wagons in Tuesday's goods to Wadebridge for careful onward transfer to Trepol Bay via Port Perran. (The Cant Cove painters, unusually, were not to be found in the Public Bar, their usual haunt!) To ensure reliable delivery, Penmayne has scheduled a 'Hymek' for Tuesday's pick-up goods from Penmayne through to Wadebridge, either D7028 or D7090 from Plymouth (Laira) shed have been requested.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 07:44:05 AM
The morning pickup goods from Penmayne to Wadebridge headed by 'Hymek' D7028 of Plymouth (Laira), after calling in at Cant Cove to pick up more wagons about to cross an inlet of the River Camel as it nears Wadebridge. The last two wagons (Castle Brewery open cask wagon and ex-LNER brake van) are to be then sent on the next goods train from Wadebridge to Port Perran and then tripped to Trepol Bay.

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Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
Control at Port Perran are awaiting arrival. The two wagons will be added to the daily freight to Trepol Bay in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 08:04:42 AM
The Wadebridge yard master will telephone Port Perran as soon as the two wagons have arrived to inform Control at Port Perran when they will be leaving for onward transfer to Trepol Bay.

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Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Very nice paintwork and detailing there Chris.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
Thanks, Martin. It was very fiddly and time consuming work but very enjoyable. I look forward to seeing them arrive at Port Perran and then Trepol Bay. As we have several identical wagons and other rolling stock we can run 'through' trains.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed the arrival of the two wagons for onward transfer to Trepol Bay via Port Perran.
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Post by: smileyjon on September 02, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
. . . and talking of breweries . . guess what Metcalf kit set I bought today on the way home . .  :beers:  When I've built it I'm hoping they'll be able to churn out ice cold Guinness's for me.  Hee Hee !

Went to Looe on the old line from Liskeard but was a little disappointed . . . lovely if you like trees, but fish and chips on the beach made up for it. . . however I do love the history of the line and, having an empty spare room, I'm investigating the possibilities of re-creating something similar, from port to mines with a busy GWR twin track across the the two viaducts.  Not sure if suitable stock is available in N but would like to set it say 1910 to 1940 at the latest.  A deep winter project . . . We'll see  :D

Do keep your updates coming and send my regards to the person starting out on that really beautiful little layout . . . . . . :P





Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 08:31:14 PM
Yes, the Looe branchline is a little hemmed in by trees but it is an interesting line, especially involving the reversing movement half way down.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
Hoping to get my Z Scale narrow gauge line laid tomorrow (as I have the morning off) alongside the canal at Trepol Bay. Many, many thanks to jonclox (who supplied the track).
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Post by: smileyjon on September 02, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
Yes . . . done to overcome the silly grades. I got a book on it today  :thumbsup:

Did you know . . . from Looe to the Cheesewring quarry the line climbed 1200 feet ! 

 :wave:

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 02, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Hope you'll be able to do so, Martin. Looking forward to seeing the latest photo. updates.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 08:43:35 PM
Did you know . . . from Looe to the Cheesewring quarry the line climbed 1200 feet ! 

 :wave:
I didn't know that but it's an impressive climb.
The history of lines in Cornwall is fascinating.
The Redruth & Chacewater Railway (which closed in 1915) ran right by our front gate (or back gate depending which you consider to be the front or back of our cottage) literally 10 feet from our kitchen window.  As it's a pretty steep climb it would have been impressive to see one of the 3 old tank engines struggling up.  The old footbridge over the track still exists about 50 yards up the road.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 02, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/DSCF1057_zpsfd8916a5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/DSCF1057_zpsfd8916a5.jpg.html)

...and here's a pic of that footbridge  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 02, 2014, 11:16:30 PM
oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . .  perhaps one midnight soon a ghost train will chug past your house with no driver or fireman . . . . ooooooooooooooooooooh !

although I bet it'll be when you drink a little too much  :pint:

tee hee  :moony:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
So.....narrow gauge tracks now laid into Trepol Bay  harbour (many thanks to Jonclox for very kindly supplying the Z gauge track) running alongside what will become the canal.
I've also ordered a couple of appropriate wagons from N'Tastic shop(which I hope to turn into derelicts) to sit on the track (which will also be heavily weathered etc)
Next stage , I think, for Trepol Bay is to start infilling some of the trackwork to make it appear that it is laid in the dockside and not on sleepers.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/narrowgauge_zpsfa39e226.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/narrowgauge_zpsfa39e226.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . .  perhaps one midnight soon a ghost train will chug past your house with no driver or fireman . . . . ooooooooooooooooooooh !

although I bet it'll be when you drink a little too much  :pint:

tee hee  :moony:
Needs to be a full moon too !    Strange things happen down here in Cornwall when the moon is at it's largest.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2014, 04:38:51 PM
Very nice, Martin. Yes, the abandoned narrow gauge tracks should be heavily overgrown like those at Bude Harbour.

For trains down the steep incline to the Harbour that are not fully-fitted you will need a heavy brake van at the end of the train to stop the train running away with the loco.!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 03, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
Looks good Martin . . . . but no full moon from me

oh, all right then  :moony:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on September 03, 2014, 06:50:35 PM
Very nice, Martin. Yes, the abandoned narrow gauge tracks should be heavily overgrown like those at Bude Harbour.
How dare you >:( That track was not old and abandoned. >:(
  It was just surplus to my requirements even if some of it was just pre-used it still has life in it
I`m sure it will have a new lease of life at Trepol Bay and the sea air may do it good
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2014, 07:40:06 PM
Old, abandoned 2ft. tramway tracks at Bude in 1965:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/BUDE-ABANDONEDTRAMWAY1965_zpsfd98bf7a.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/BUDE-ABANDONEDTRAMWAY1965_zpsfd98bf7a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 03, 2014, 07:47:48 PM
Hi Martin, a question, please, from our fellow NGF member Jon: "Would the class 52 and 22 be okay on second radius curves?"
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 08:44:25 PM
Hi Martin, a question, please, from our fellow NGF member Jon: "Would the class 52 and 22 be okay on second radius curves?"
They are both fine.  Only problem is due to its length, the Class 52 looks "wrong" and overhangs the curve a bit so anything close to the track will be fouled. The Class 22 (being a little shortie in length) is fine.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Old, abandoned 2ft. tramway tracks at Bude in 1965:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/BUDE-ABANDONEDTRAMWAY1965_zpsfd98bf7a.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/BUDE-ABANDONEDTRAMWAY1965_zpsfd98bf7a.jpg.html[/url])

It's still there in 2014 and was an inspiration (along with the canal of course) for what I'm trying to achieve.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 03, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Looks good Martin . . . . but no full moon from me
oh, all right then  :moony:
Very good Jon. Think I'll steer clear of East Cornwall !! :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2014, 08:53:03 PM
The 15.44 (Fridays only) goods from Wadebridge to Truro arrived at Port Perran today at 16.12 to drop off wagons in the goods yard as normal behind en ex GW small prarie.
However, today's delivery was unusual in that it contained a delivery from Castle Brewery at Cant Cove plus an ex NE brake van for onward transmission to Trepol Bay.  Also included was some livestock from Cant Cove also bound for Trepol Bay (this had been transferred to a WR horse box at Wadebridge).
A few barrels of ale were unloaded at Port Perran goods shed for delivery (by Scammel Scarab) to the Cornish Arms. The ale wagon, plus the horse box and brakevan were then shunted into the Port Perran goods loop by the yard shunter (a 57XX pannier).
At 20.02 a Class 22 backed onto the 3 wagons to form the 20.17 departure for Trepol Bay.
The horsebox will be detached at Atlantic Junction for onward transmission to the branch at Descanso Farm.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/cinp1_zps2621b651.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/cinp1_zps2621b651.jpg.html)
The 20.17 awaits departure from the goods loop behind a Class 22

Many, many thanks to Chris in Prague for very kindly sending the two wagons (the ale wagon and brakevan) plus tiny farm animals (for Descanso Farm) all the way from Prague.
The picture below shows the excellent work Chris has undertaken in detailing the two wagons :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/cinp2_zps90019324.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/cinp2_zps90019324.jpg.html)
Many thanks Chris, I'm sure the regulars in the Cornish Arms at Port Perran plus the Royal Sovereign Inn at Trepol Bay will be very much looking forward to trying out the guest ales.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2014, 09:11:29 PM
My great pleasure, Martin. Many thanks for the excellent photos.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on September 06, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
So.....narrow gauge tracks now laid into Trepol Bay  harbour (many thanks to Jonclox for very kindly supplying the Z gauge track) running alongside what will become the canal.
I've also ordered a couple of appropriate wagons from N'Tastic shop(which I hope to turn into derelicts) to sit on the track (which will also be heavily weathered etc)
Next stage , I think, for Trepol Bay is to start infilling some of the trackwork to make it appear that it is laid in the dockside and not on sleepers.
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/narrowgauge_zpsfa39e226.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/narrowgauge_zpsfa39e226.jpg.html[/url])

I see that my track bits are doing a grand job down in Cornwall and I thank you  for returning the surplus and the 'Taste of Cornwall' that came with them (I can nearly smell the Cornish ozones from you parcel)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 07, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
Canal banks and towpath started today and it seems to have gone OK.
Everything is a bit messy till the grouting I used for the banks etc is dried so will post a picture in a few days once I have started the painting and ground cover.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 07, 2014, 07:41:16 PM
 :greatpicturessign:

How do you weather your rails Mr PP . . . . and then keep them looking good whilst maintaining good lecci contact ?

 :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 07, 2014, 08:09:18 PM
Hi Jon

I've got one of those paint pens, which seems to work for me.
I can give you a link if you want to try one.

Martin
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 07, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
I was thinking of a paint pen for lining, Martin. For painting handrails, I've found the end of a cocktail stick dipped in paint works fine. 8-).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 07, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
Martin . . . I assume you do inside and outside of both rails . . . . aaaaaaagh.  That would be about 350 foot of pen work!

 I did briefly look at the Woodland Scenics one or some seem to paint a rust colour on.  Anyway if you have a moment do please let me know the one/s you use.

Ta lots and have a good week

 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 07, 2014, 10:16:27 PM
I'll have a look at my pen and let you know tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2014, 09:37:23 AM
I'll have a look at my pen and let you know tomorrow.

This is a link to the paint pen I have :
http://www.posca.com/uk/all-material-markers/pc-1m (http://www.posca.com/uk/all-material-markers/pc-1m)
It's maybe a little light (I have the brown one) but I feel it's OK.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 08, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
A quick  :thankyousign: Martin

The railway's a little on the back burner at present.  The weather is lovely at the moment and as I've only lived here since April there's lots for me to go and see . . . and I still have to kick the worlds worst garden into shape (plus day to day boring chores of course).  I'll track down the pen and when the weather turns I'll do some testing !

If you fancy a job . . . . I've 50 yards of track to ballast  :D

Jon
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 08, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
Thanks for the offer Jon but I have enough trouble with my 50 feet of track let alone 50 yards !
Enjoy the glorious weather.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 11, 2014, 07:03:31 PM
Work has started (slowly for now) on the scenic part of Trepol Bay and I've started with the canal that leads into the harbour by means of a lock. I've completed the canal banks and very roughly started the loch. The gate is in place at the canal end but needs detailing with fencing/mechanism etc.
The water is merely acrylic paint at the moment. Needs to be pepped up with yacht varnish (several layers).
Very little paint so far and no scatter material or bushes etc.
The barges are merely a very rough trial (they will be scrapped and replaced with better versions) to see if it looks right (visually and to scale). I got the idea for the barges (OK I pinched the idea!) from an excellent model of the canal and railway at Bude (in Bude town museum). The barges will carry sea sand and/or calcified seaweed. The front barge will have a rope attaching it to the back one and the front one will have a man sitting rear (to control rudder) and will have a horse towing it (on the towpath).
Any thoughts at this very early stage ?    Long way to go on this bit yet though !
The narrow gauge (Z Scale)track has two wagons (from N'Tastic) yet to be weathered and waiting wheels to be fixed. These wagons will be rusted and abandoned.   The narrow gauge track will run into the main port area and eventually alongside the standard gauge (N scale) main layout.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal2_zps6b593ab2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal2_zps6b593ab2.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal1_zpsc99cd5c3.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal1_zpsc99cd5c3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 11, 2014, 07:23:11 PM
Brilliant detailing and care Martin . . . I tend to go in with a lump hammer in my hobnailed boots so it's lovely to see great modelling  :)

I've just done another 15 minute stint with the plastery stuff, filling some of the holes with fingers. . . Yummy !

Jon
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 11, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
I've just done another 15 minute stint with the plastery stuff, filling some of the holes with fingers. . . Yummy !

Jon
If you mix a little icing sugar into the plaster it tastes better ! :claphappy:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 11, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
You silly bu . . er !

 :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 11, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
Very nice work, Martin. I'm also a strong believer, now, in mockups before scratchbuilding anything. I should have made one for Cant Cove's loco. shed but I thought being merely 'kit-bashing' it was unnecessary. It took rather longer and I made several errors (all correctable, fortunately) as a result.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 12, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
Popped into Plymouth today, a little shopping and a walk along the coast.   All those lovely old dockyard rails that were left are now being buried under apartment blocks in gated communities. . .  progress I suppose but a little sad.  Anyway, I went into a shop called Antics . . . and got the rail weathering pen.  Not sure if one will be enough but if the weather closes in I'll let you know how I get on  :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 12, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
Good luck with the pen.
Yes....it's a shame when things get covered in the name of progress.
Enjoy the weather whilst it lasts
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
Messy job this morning.
Been "grassing" the canal banks. It's surprisingly hard to lay scatter material vertically without making a mess !
Letting it stick then clearing up the mess later. 
Plenty of time for it to dry as we are making a couple of trips to the beach this afternoon to collect seaweed for the allotments . [That's the REAL allotments not an 'N' scale version].
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Malc on September 14, 2014, 11:55:17 AM
Nice work on the canal Martin, and I do like the z gauge track. Did they use barges or trows on the canal?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on September 14, 2014, 11:55:32 AM
Good morning PP. looking good so far with the canal I can't wait to see the finished bank work, any pics yet??
Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
Nice to read about continuing progress, Martin, on Trepol Bay. I'm still fiddling around with "The Beach Cafe" (Sid the Surveyor said that a skylight would be good in the roof as, otherwise, the interior would be too dark) and the details for the loco. shed interior including a bufferstop -- I had to scrap the first attempt as it did not look good.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 14, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
In between work on my computer and three loads of washing I'm playing with the rusty rail pen.  It's good that it dulls things down a nudge but it seems to love point work !

Not yet sure if I'll treat the inside faces of the rails . . . bit at a time I think, as the rails do dull down with time.

Let's have some pics soon Martin so I can check on what you're up to and that the build quality is up to scratch . . . . . . . . hee hee  :P

The sun's out  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
You're having better weather, there, Jon, than here, it's grey and raining.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 14, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Well that's summer done and dusted Chris . . . . . hope your week is better  :wave:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
Well that's summer done and dusted Chris . . . . . hope your week is better  :wave:

Thanks, Jon. Summers always end quickly, here. This year, we had an extra week, after the end of August. I wish you a good week.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 04:19:02 PM
So....making a little progress :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal3_zps9b3d8b2c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal3_zps9b3d8b2c.jpg.html)
The scatter material is "scattered" and adhering to the underlying coat of paint. Will be filling in any gaps later and then going over the whole lot with PVA adhesive.
The loose scatter in the canal and on the tow path will be swept up !
The grey area to the side of the lock will be mown grass and is yet to be completed.
I've also added (temporarily) the lock gate and its fence.  The arms to open the gate will be added later along with ladders down the side of the lock. Still got the sea end lock to do.
Once again, the barge (not sure if its a trow - what is the difference please?) is only a mock up for scale. They will be an exact copy of the barge (or trow) as modelled in the Bude museum.
Also got to add bushes/saplings and "varnish" the water. 
Lots to do !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on September 14, 2014, 04:30:45 PM
Great start there PP, it looks really good.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
Excellent work, Martin. Looking better and better.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
I need to set George the grass sweeper to work soon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 14, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
Did you go for Lolium, Festuca, Agrostis or Poa or boring old rye grass ?

I hope the former but the latter is lookin' good old bean !

 :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
Did you go for Lolium, Festuca, Agrostis or Poa or boring old rye grass ?
I hope the former but the latter is lookin' good old bean !
 :P
I bow to vastly superior knowledge re grasses .  It's a mix of boring old green, quite green  and not so green stuff I'm afraid !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Malc on September 14, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
So....making a little progress :
Once again, the barge (not sure if its a trow - what is the difference please?) is only a mock up for scale. They will be an exact copy of the barge (or trow) as modelled in the Bude museum.
Also got to add bushes/saplings and "varnish" the water. 
Lots to do !
The trow had a mast and sail which were dropped for bridges, but they could nip around the coast. Very popular on the Severn. Another variant is the wherry, which was more widespread.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
So....making a little progress :
Once again, the barge (not sure if its a trow - what is the difference please?) is only a mock up for scale. They will be an exact copy of the barge (or trow) as modelled in the Bude museum.
Also got to add bushes/saplings and "varnish" the water. 
Lots to do !
The trow had a mast and sail which were dropped for bridges, but they could nip around the coast. Very popular on the Severn. Another variant is the wherry, which was more widespread.

Wherries are, I believe, associated with Norfolk, where I have lived.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
I think what I'm going to have is a plain and simple horse drawn barge.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
I think what I'm going to have is a plain and simple horse drawn barge.

You've got the Bude museum model as a very useful example but, I guess, it's not N Scale?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on September 14, 2014, 07:05:08 PM
So....making a little progress :
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal3_zps9b3d8b2c.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal3_zps9b3d8b2c.jpg.html[/url])
The scatter material is "scattered" and adhering to the underlying coat of paint. Will be filling in any gaps later and then going over the whole lot with PVA adhesive.
The loose scatter in the canal and on the tow path will be swept up !
The grey area to the side of the lock will be mown grass and is yet to be completed.
I've also added (temporarily) the lock gate and its fence.  The arms to open the gate will be added later along with ladders down the side of the lock. Still got the sea end lock to do.
Once again, the barge (not sure if its a trow - what is the difference please?) is only a mock up for scale. They will be an exact copy of the barge (or trow) as modelled in the Bude museum.
Also got to add bushes/saplings and "varnish" the water. 
Lots to do !

This really is coming along nicely. Keep up the good work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
I think what I'm going to have is a plain and simple horse drawn barge.
You've got the Bude museum model as a very useful example but, I guess, it's not N Scale?
Actually, it is N Scale. I was pleasantly surprised when we came across it in the museum. It is a super little model of the old railway (about 1959) and the canal. It's a pity I didn't take more photos (I only have one of the barges on the canal) of it as it is a really great little scene (about 5ft by 3ft roughly).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 07:42:03 PM
I think what I'm going to have is a plain and simple horse drawn barge.
You've got the Bude museum model as a very useful example but, I guess, it's not N Scale?
Actually, it is N Scale. I was pleasantly surprised when we came across it in the museum. It is a super little model of the old railway (about 1959) and the canal. It's a pity I didn't take more photos (I only have one of the barges on the canal) of it as it is a really great little scene (about 5ft by 3ft roughly).

Sounds really worth seeing, Martin. I'm also very sorry that you did not take more photos. as I would have liked to have seen them.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
Next time we visit Bude , I'll pop in and take more pictures.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
Next time we visit Bude , I'll pop in and take more pictures.

That will be great, Martin. Bude was, as you know, a really attractive location to model.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 16, 2014, 04:20:53 PM
More scatter material laid along the canal banks today (messy job) to fill in a few gaps. I'll then cover the whole area lightly with scenic cement to bond everything before adding bushes etc.  I need to think of a good way to add a few rushes to the canal bank (any ideas?).

And.......I'm making a slight change to the track layout in the harbour area. I realised ( ::)) that locos arriving with a few trucks down the incline into the harbour had no means of escape (ie they would be trapped in the siding - very much a significant schoolboy error) so I'm building in a small run round loop. Lucky I thought of that before it was too late to do anything about it  :dunce: :dunce:.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
Noch make very good N Scale Reeds, try eBay Germany. See also, Juliaberg. Lastly, I have heard old toothbrush bristles, cut down and painted make good reeds!

Yes, if not following a real-life prototype, you should always lay the track and try operating it before fixing everything down. Glad you discovered the need for the run round loop in time, Martin. These days, with run round facilities having been removed from branch termini, such trains would be top and tailed by a locomotive.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 16, 2014, 07:48:34 PM
Made the levers for opening the lock gates (canal end) and started to paint them. Also started the footbridge over the canal and made a cardboard mock-up of the sea lock in order to get the size correct.
The sea lock will be opened with chains with metal winders. Managed to get some thin chain at a charity shop on Saturday which should suffice.
Probably won't be able to make much more progress till Friday now but will post a few pictures once things are in place.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 16, 2014, 07:57:43 PM
 :photospleasesign: when you can, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 16, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Ditto what Chris said Martin . . . . . . HORRY OOP !

 :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
Latest update on the canal at Trepol Bay.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal5_zpsebafc0b2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal5_zpsebafc0b2.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanal4_zpsecf9db7f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanal4_zpsecf9db7f.jpg.html)

The new over bridge is only lodged in place at the moment and is yet to have any detailing added.
As yet I have only mud in the canal - water effect still to be added once I have a couple of boats (from Langley Models) plus my own barges (mock up only made so far) and some swans !  The banks now have all scatter material in place (tidying to do) and the wooden canal side reinforcements need to be weathered.
The lock sides also need detailing and weathering. The lock gate opening arms are added now and the paving slabs at the side of the lock need gluing down firmly.
You can just see the cardboard template in place for the sea lock gate at the far end of the lock.
Apologies for the clutter. I'm not the tidiest of workers !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 17, 2014, 08:10:23 PM
The canal is looking very good, already, Martin. Very nice scenic modelling.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 17, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Been so busy fiddling with starting Trepol Bay that I've not been running trains lately. So.....had a fun session running various locos/train formations on Port Perran this evening.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 18, 2014, 04:45:52 AM
Been so busy fiddling with starting Trepol Bay that I've not been running trains lately. So.....had a fun session running various locos/train formations on Port Perran this evening.

 :photospleasesign: 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 18, 2014, 07:38:01 AM
Next time we visit Bude , I'll pop in and take more pictures.

Happy to visit anytime!  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on September 18, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
The canal and lock are looking very good. Beautiful modelling!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on September 18, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
It's coming along really well, Martin :thumbsup:
Rosie & Jim can't wait to get their longboat in there ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on September 18, 2014, 11:48:27 AM
Been so busy fiddling with starting Trepol Bay that I've not been running trains lately. So.....had a fun session running various locos/train formations on Port Perran this evening.

That's what I'm going to be doing the next couple of nights on Weaver Cove. But if the misses asks I will say I'm test running after painting the track work lol.
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Post by: smileyjon on September 19, 2014, 02:55:49 PM
Thank you for the photo update Martin

As expected it's looking real good.  Keep it up (ooops !)  :D

MODERATOR !

 :wave:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
I agree, already Trepol Bay is looking to be even better than the wonderful Port Perran.
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Post by: port perran on September 19, 2014, 08:06:39 PM
A Fishing Boat (Cutter type) sailed into Trepol today from Langley Models along with 5 rowing boats, 4 swans and 4 ducks (no Partridge though as I haven't got a pear tree).
Looks like I'm going to have "fun"  :worried: :worried:painting and constructing the fishing boat as some of the parts are (to my eyes anyway) very tiny and fiddly.
Hopefully, I can get the rowing boats and wildfowl painted fairly soon (along with my scratch buit barges) so that I can add them to the canal and then get the water (varnish) in place.
Also need to practise turning an old toothbrush or two into reeds !
I'd also like to add some lily pads and have an idea as to how to do this but I'll practise first to see what I can do.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 19, 2014, 08:14:01 PM
Looking forward to seeing the photos of these, Martin. Penmayne will, probably, have a fishing boat in the harbour, too, but that is a LONG time ahead.

However, there should be a stream flowing past two weeping willows (to hide where it 'disappears' into a backscene wall) into Cant Cove and I may have room for wildfowl as well as reeds, there. So I look forward to your experiments with old toothbrush bristles (the thinner the better).

My landlord is eager to buy some insulation board and try out a section on the baseboard so I may have some progress on that earlier than I expected!
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Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 11:22:19 AM
Bit of progress this morning - now waiting for glue/paint to dry.
Barge (plus its tender barge) painted as are two rowing boats . Swans painted - thanks to Mrs PP for doing the beaks for me !
First layer of yacht varnish added to canal surface for water effect.
Had a trial with rushes (toothbrush bristles) - will add some more once the first set is dry and if they look ok.
Lock sides weathered and also started on the stone abutments which will hold the main sea lock gates in place. Trying out some weathering techniques on these so we'll see how it turns out.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Looking forward to  :photospleasesign:, Martin. 8-)
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Post by: jd on September 27, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
Looking forward to  :photospleasesign:, Martin. 8-)

I second this  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 02:22:36 PM


Yet another paint drying break but I'm reasonably happy with progress this afternoon.
Will try to post some photos later.
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Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 04:17:49 PM
So...a few pictures from today :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanala_zpsd683f869.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanala_zpsd683f869.jpg.html)
The sea lock from the harbour side. Light is bad today so not a great photo. The bits that show white are where paint and or glue is still wet. The whole thing needs weathering down now and the weed at the bottom of the walls needs varnishing over to give it a wet look.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanalb_zps6937dc27.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanalb_zps6937dc27.jpg.html)
A closer view.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanald_zpscae1010b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanald_zpscae1010b.jpg.html)
The ancient barge with a small load of sand. The yellow scatter (representing buttercups) is yet to be stuck down and some escaped into the canal which needs sweeping !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbcanalc_zps04b45061.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbcanalc_zps04b45061.jpg.html)
Over bridge with a couple of swans swimming past. The canal needs several more layers of yacht varnish which will eventually bring it to life and I'll lose that rather messy appearance that I have at the moment.
I'm reasonably pleased and the whole thing will look so much better when finished. Quite a bit of detailing and tidying still to do.Don't know where the time has gone today !
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Post by: jonclox on September 27, 2014, 04:51:48 PM
Very nice. One can almost smell that saltwater tang as the sun shines on that seaweed  :claphappy: :claphappy:
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Post by: scotsoft on September 27, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
The weed on the bottom of the walls looks brilliant, once you have it weathered I feel it will be even more realistic  :thumbsup:

I like the buttercups as well, it is these details that make everything more realistic  :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
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Post by: Newportnobby on September 27, 2014, 06:23:35 PM
Wot he said.

Looks great, Martin :thumbsup:
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Post by: Caz on September 27, 2014, 06:27:55 PM
The lock looks superb Martin, some lovely details make it appear very life like.    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 06:34:56 PM
Really superb modelling there, Martin. The weed is a a great touch as are the buttercups (I would never have thought of that). When it's finished (with the extra layers of varnish) it really will look highly realistic. More  :photospleasesign: as you progress.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 06:39:57 PM
Thanks for the kind remarks everyone.
Have to let it all dry this evening then I can add some more varnish tomorrow hopefully.
I still need to add the winding gear for the large sea lock doors plus various chains and ropes. Also need to add a horse for the barge plus ropes to join the two sections.
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Post by: smileyjon on September 27, 2014, 06:45:48 PM
Stunning stuff Martin . . . love the sea lock door and the weed on the vertical surfaces.   Brill  :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
If you need an ordinary horse (as opposed to a shire horse) I can add one to the parcel. I have some black and brown horses.
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Post by: port perran on September 27, 2014, 07:04:31 PM
If you need an ordinary horse (as opposed to a shire horse) I can add one to the parcel. I have some black and brown horses.
Thanks for the offer but I have found a suitable one in my bits box.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 27, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
If you need an ordinary horse (as opposed to a shire horse) I can add one to the parcel. I have some black and brown horses.
Thanks for the offer but I have found a suitable one in my bits box.

That's good; it's amazing what can be found in a 'bits box'! 8-)
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Post by: jd on September 27, 2014, 11:59:14 PM
Great landscaping MR PP. I love the little boat works really well. :D
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Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 12:38:05 PM
Moving on this morning with the harbour wall. I need to get that done before I can add the winding gear for the sea lock.
So....I've added two more of the porcelain sea wall sections :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbseawall1_zps6747bc02.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbseawall1_zps6747bc02.jpg.html)
The remainder will be wood piling which I have to scratch build using coffee stirrers and small lolly sticks :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbseawall2_zpsfc393b35.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbseawall2_zpsfc393b35.jpg.html)
It is meant to look rough and uneven as walls often do. Waiting for the glue to dry now before painting and weathering.
I've also this morning added another varnish coat to the canal.
I envy those among us who are neat workers. I get tools, paint and materials all over the place and can never find what I want !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 12:58:12 PM
Very nice, Martin. I'm very short of space (I'm modelling on a small kitchen table and have most items in various sized plastic and cardboard boxes) so I also get tools, paint and materials all over the place and can sometimes not find what I want! (This time it is the little packet with vaccuum hose fittings for wagons; they will have to be added to my SR vans later.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on September 28, 2014, 01:02:35 PM
I'm modelling downstairs so I have everything in a large box but when I start everything go all over the place. At the moment I'm still looking for my blades for my knife, I know there somewhere in the house lol. Fingers crossed I find them before Mrs Cove finds them  :-[
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Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 03:33:17 PM
That's enough for today - lots of concentration.
And, I've tidied up the mess I created as well.
This is the result of today's modelling work :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tpharboura1_zpseaa1bc25.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tpharboura1_zpseaa1bc25.jpg.html)
The harbour wall becomes wooden piling part way along.  I've also "paved" the area immediately adjacent to the harbour wall and enclosed the running line. Chris' ale delivery looks the part posed in the siding. The "join" in the paving will later be fixed so that it can't be seen.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tpharboura3_zpsd07dd82c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tpharboura3_zpsd07dd82c.jpg.html)
Harbour wall with steps. I've given the sea a first varnish coat but the weed needs varnishing another day to make it appear wet.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tpharboura2_zps46533d8c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tpharboura2_zps46533d8c.jpg.html)
The paved area above the harbour wall. This paving will eventually spread much further with rails embedded in the paving. The wooden circle will eventually become a wagon turntable.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tpharboura4_zpsd7a79287.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tpharboura4_zpsd7a79287.jpg.html)
That's it for today.
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Post by: jd on September 28, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
Outstanding Mr PP just outstanding. I'm lost for words. :NGaugersRule:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 03:51:51 PM
Really superb scenic modelling, Martin. Looks 100% realistic. I think, when it is finished, Trepol Bay could well be a prize winner and should be submitted to the NGS magazine.

Delighted to see that another delivery of Castle Brewery casks has arrived at Trepol Bay! 8-) The ex-works Castle Brewery van should be despatched, soon, to 'Wadebridge' for onward transmission. Penmayne's yardmaster is trying to track down the missing condemned LMSR brake van whose body is also supposed to be sent on in the same goods train! Birmingham have told him that it was despatched via the Somerset and Dorset and may have got 'lost'! In which case, Derby have promised to send another.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
Delighted to see that another delivery of Castle Brewery casks has arrived at Trepol Bay! 8-) The ex-works Castle Brewery van should be despatched, soon, to 'Wadebridge' for onward transmission. Penmayne's yardmaster is trying to track down the missing condemned LMSR brake van whose body is also supposed to be sent on in the same goods train! Birmingham have told him that it was despatched via the Somerset and Dorset and may have got 'lost'! In which case, Derby have promised to send another.
Ah....probably diverted up the Burnham branch by mistake !
I grew up only 5 miles from the S&D (Midford was close to where I lived) so know the line. One of my favourites and the S&D 7Fs and 4Fs were favourites of mine too.
Thanks for the very kind comments re Trepol Bay.
My next step is to take a roadway down from the upper level (station line) down to the harbour level. I'm in two (or three) minds at the moment as to how to achieve this so won't rush till i'm happy. I can then start the warehousing etc on the harbour itself. Although it's a SR yard essentially, I'm hoping to follow some of the higgledy-piggeldy buildings that existed on Hayle Wharves. A real mish-mash of buidings developed over many years.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 04:49:33 PM
A fascinating line the S&D.

Try out some crude cardboard mockups until you find a roadway that you're happy with.

I agree, a mix of buildings is key. I have some Kestrel Designs small buildings (wooden and brick-built) that with Ratio windows and doors and Ratio tile roofs should look good to join the varied collection of small buildings ready for Cant Cove (and Penmayne). I also have a picture of Wadebridge's little weighbridge hut and reckon my remaining small Ratio hut (one is the coal merchant's office with new windows, the other has been built according to the kit and as a weighbridge office -- will be kept for Penamayne instead, the third was converted into the shedmaster's office) could be converted to look very similar.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mrs Port Perran on September 28, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
Great work.  Love the seaweed growth, very effective.

Can confirm that the wall and wooden pilings look even better in 'real life'  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on September 28, 2014, 07:58:22 PM
You really should take up model railway building . . . . . . . . :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: port perran on September 28, 2014, 09:18:38 PM
You really should take up model railway building . . . . . . . . :D :D :D :D :D :D
Great idea Jon.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 09:41:24 PM
The 22.43 from Wadebridge to Penmayne (arr. 22.56), calling at Cant Cove at 22.50, (the last train of the day to call there to pick up the guests of the "Tramway Inn" and the "Station Hotel"), was delayed from its normal 22.52 departure to Penmayne -- where the two-car Bulleid Set is stabled whilst the 57XX retires to the shed at 23.07 and the crew 'sign off' at 23.17 -- by the necessity to shunt off the tail load, an ex-LMSR short wheelbase brakevan given a light overhaul, that, en route to North Cornwall from Birmingham, had been taken down the Burnham branch of the Somerset & Dorset by mistake after some scallyway removed the cardboard routing instructions from the side of the van. Retrieved the errant brakevan was then sent on to Wadebridge, today, where the yardmaster gave instructions that it be taken to Cant Cove ASAP so the body can be removed by the Cornish Loco. Pres. Soc., who have sold the body to a cafe owner in Trepol Bay to raise funds to restore the loco. shed. A suitable flat wagon has been stabled in Cant Cove loco. shed and the van's body will be placed on it by the yard crane, tomorrow, and the wagon and its load sent off on the 10.10 goods from Penmayne to Wadebridge, arr. 10.24, hauled by a Class 22. From Wadebridge it will be sent on to Trepol Bay via Port Perran. The wagon and its load will have previously been taken from Cant Cove (d. 09.03) to Penmayne (a. 09.07) behind an engine running on test Light Engine from Penmayne, rumoured to be a WR 82XXX that the Penmayne shedmaster has got his hands on! A society member took the photo. with all the shed lights turned on, and a tripod and long exposure:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29222655_zps36acac8f.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29222655_zps36acac8f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 29, 2014, 09:49:54 PM
The arrival of a potential new tea/coffee hut in Trepol Bay has caused much excitement locally. It is rumoured that photographers from the West Briton and the Western Morning News will be present to record the arrival.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
Photos from tomorrow morning, bright and early at Cant Cove loco. shed:

82005 returns to the shed with the brakevan body now on the low-loading wagon for the body to be chained down securely before taking it to Penmayne where it will be shunted into the goods train for Wadebridge and then transfer to Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29230622_zps9b29e90e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29230622_zps9b29e90e.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-09-29230632_zps216130f1.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-09-29230632_zps216130f1.jpg.html)

Photos taken by a bleary-eyed photographer from the "Western Morning News" staying at the nearby "Station Hotel" who took, at first, the wrong picture: the two mineral wagons! (See Cant Cove thread.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on September 30, 2014, 10:10:36 AM
Too much time at the bar of the Station Hotel the night before  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
Too much time at the bar of the Station Hotel the night before  :D

Alas, yes, but you know what reporters are like. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on September 30, 2014, 10:23:08 AM
It's all those flippin beer wagons you keep making him photograph - gives a man a thirst!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 10:38:06 AM
It's all those flippin beer wagons you keep making him photograph - gives a man a thirst!

True, true. Castle Ales are famous for their 'moreish' qualities! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
This morning's goods train from Penmayne to Wadebridge included an ex-works (Cornish Loco. Pres. Society members at Cant Cove loco. shed) Castle Brewery van and a low-loader wagon with an ex-LMSR brakevan body (nicely restored and painted in grey undercoat) for onward transmission to Trepol Bay via Port Perran.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 30, 2014, 09:00:24 PM
Shed Foreman at Port Perran will await a call from the yardmaster at Wadebridge once the wagons arrive from Penmayne.
A special light engine plus brake van  movement will then be arranged from Port Perran Loco to Wadebridge to collect the Ale wagon and the brake van body. However, the foreman at Port Perran will first check with the Trepol Bay port foreman as currently, the run round loop in Trepol Bay is out of action for track repairs. These should be completed tomorrow but if there is a delay, the two wagons will be held for a couple of days at Wadebridge yard.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 09:13:18 PM
Thanks, Martin. I look forward to the photos.

The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed that the two wagons can be held safely for a day or two and that they will be stabled where he can keep an eye on 'em. A tarpaulin will be hung over the brake van body and over the brewery wagon on side nearest to the road! The van's padlocks will be checked regularly!

In return, the General Manager of the Castle Brewery has promised a gratis barrel of Castle Winter Warmer ale for the Wadebridge Railway Staff Association's Christmas party!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on October 01, 2014, 03:26:03 PM
I like the idea of a brew hut . . . you have the scale one but can I have a real one please Martin  :D

Lovely modelling . . . . feeling guilty as not touched mine (the railway!) for over a week now.

Jon  :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2014, 05:42:19 PM
Spent a VERY frustrating couple of hours trying to create a run round loop in Trepol Bay harbour on Tuesday evening in very poor lighting and using scraps and bits of left over track that I thought I could just about do the job !
Gave up in frustration (and grumpiness) !!
So...........off to the model shop where I bought a few new pieces of track today (only cost about £5) then completed the job in 10 minutes !
Lesson learned (at least for now) - don't try to make do using scraps when you know that in reality you need to buy new ! 
Looking back, I know that I would never have been happy with the formation had I made do with the odd bits of track.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Well now, with track in place and the harbour wall has been built (along with the canal) I'm at the point of thinking about buildings etc on Trepol Bay harbour :
I'm considering the following :
A brewery distribution depot (The brewery itself will be in the town).
A sand distribution facility for sand dredged from the sea (onward transportation by rail).
A plant processing seaweed (calcified seaweed).
Fish processing and distribution plant.
General warehouse facilities for handling incoming goods by sea and onward transportation by rail (and vice versa)
A small engineering firm/unit.
A milk distribution facility (tankers bringing milk in from surrounding area to go onward by rail).
A china clay handling warehouse (clay coming in by rail for loading into ships).
Harbour offices etc.
Perhaps a provender store ??
And......of course the tea/coffee bar courtesy of Chris in Prague's brake van body.
I'll also be making room for a couple of wartime pill boxes, perhaps some form of "folly" and a few general industrial units (eg old Nissan huts and perhaps one small workshop facility inside an old coach body).

Any other ideas for possible industries or buildings that I could incorporate ?
I'm open to suggestions and none of the above are set in stone.


Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
I like the idea of a brew hut . . . you have the scale one but can I have a real one please Martin  :D

Lovely modelling . . . . feeling guilty as not touched mine (the railway!) for over a week now.
Jon  :P
Ah but the weather is on the change this weekend Jon  :rain: so it will hopefully be back to the layout for you !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on October 02, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
Brewery distribution has to be a good choice . . . lots of little barrels stacked outside.  Or how about a cafe/bar and recruitment office, a general repair shop or a shipwright.  Will the barges be diesel or horsey . . . they'll need provisioning of course.

Then of course you could extend the layout and add gasometers, warehouses, shipbuilding and servicing yards, extensive coal yards, grain stores, cotton mills . . . . . . . . .

 :wave:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2014, 08:47:53 PM
Brewery distribution has to be a good choice . . . lots of little barrels stacked outside.  Or how about a cafe/bar and recruitment office, a general repair shop or a shipwright.  Will the barges be diesel or horsey . . . they'll need provisioning of course.
Then of course you could extend the layout and add gasometers, warehouses, shipbuilding and servicing yards, extensive coal yards, grain stores, cotton mills . . . . . . . . .

 :wave:
Barges will be "horsey" so yes, great idea - a small stables and I like the shipwright idea (Thank you).
As for gasometers and shipbuilders - great idea - will need another room though to make enough room !!!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: smileyjon on October 02, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Extend the first floor out over the garden . . . mmmm, or excavate a basement. 

Such Fun eh !

 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2014, 10:36:09 AM
Due to harbour wall repairs (ready for the winter storms) at Penmayne, more goods traffic to Cant Cove and Penamayne is expected from Trepol Bay where the harbour walls are in excellent condition!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2014, 10:44:51 AM
Well now, with track in place and the harbour wall has been built (along with the canal) I'm at the point of thinking about buildings etc on Trepol Bay harbour :
I'm considering the following :
A brewery distribution depot (The brewery itself will be in the town).
A sand distribution facility for sand dredged from the sea (onward transportation by rail).
A plant processing seaweed (calcified seaweed).
Fish processing and distribution plant.
General warehouse facilities for handling incoming goods by sea and onward transportation by rail (and vice versa)
A small engineering firm/unit.
A milk distribution facility (tankers bringing milk in from surrounding area to go onward by rail).
A china clay handling warehouse (clay coming in by rail for loading into ships).
Harbour offices etc.
Perhaps a provender store ??
And......of course the tea/coffee bar courtesy of Chris in Prague's brake van body.
I'll also be making room for a couple of wartime pill boxes, perhaps some form of "folly" and a few general industrial units (eg old Nissan huts and perhaps one small workshop facility inside an old coach body).

Any other ideas for possible industries or buildings that I could incorporate ?
I'm open to suggestions and none of the above are set in stone.

There are LOTS of excellent ideas there, Martin, but fitting them all in will be difficult unless you use quite a pot of low relief buildings?

I certainly like the idea of a brewery distribution depot (the brewery itself will be in the town but the site is too restricted for more than brewing) but you could expand its function to distribution of Fine Ales, Wines and Spirits. (Maybe the siding could enter through a gateway in a wall around the depot yard?
A sand distribution facility for sand dredged from the sea (onward transportation by rail) is another excellent idea.
A plant processing seaweed (calcified seaweed), again an excellent idea.
Fish processing and distribution plant, also a very good idea; see the pictures of Padstow's buildings.
General warehouse facilities for handling incoming goods by sea and onward transportation by rail (and vice versa); there are plenty of stone-built warehouse prototypes to copy (might have to be low relief?)
A timber importers' with a quayside crane would be one I would consider.
A small marine engineering firm/unit for repairs to ship engines sounds good. (Again, might have to be low relief?).
A milk distribution facility (tankers bringing milk in from surrounding area to go onward by rail); can be very small. See the article in the latest NGS magazine.
A china clay handling warehouse (clay coming in by rail for loading into ships); again a nice idea but how about a loading ramp rather than a warehouse?
Harbour offices etc. A must. A nice Georgian style building.
Perhaps a provender store ?? If there's room?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2014, 10:46:02 AM
A shipwrights' and a chandlers' are definite musts in my opinion. (Again, could be low relief.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 03, 2014, 08:46:09 PM
Due to the cancellation of an earlier passenger train the 16.45 freight from Cant Cove arrived at Wadebridge Yard some 50 minutes early.
This enabled two wagons conveying ales from the Castle Brewery to be added to the 17.20 mixed goods from Wadebridge Yard to Port Perran.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0658_zps6e02022b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0658_zps6e02022b.jpg.html)
The mixed goods passing Port Perran wood yard behind a GW 0-6-0 PT
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0659_zpscd8dd776.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0659_zpscd8dd776.jpg.html)
And standing just outside of Port Perran station waiting for clearance to move forward and reverse into the goods yard. The regulars at the Cornish Arms will be very pleased with the early arrival of the delivery from the Castle Brewery. The landlord will be driving his land rover to the goods yard to pick up a couple of barrels in time for this evenings Euchre Cup Final against the Fox & Hounds Inn at Lanharrack.
The goods from Penmayne to wadebridge also contained a brake van body bound for Trepol Bay. This will be moved on to Trepol Bay in the next day or so.
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Post by: smileyjon on October 03, 2014, 08:59:52 PM
Great stuff  :thumbsup:
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Post by: wookie on October 03, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
Very very nice pics  :greatpicturessign:
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Post by: port perran on October 03, 2014, 09:30:25 PM
A belated HUGE thank you to Chris (in Prague) for supplying the two (blue) Castle Ales wagons. :thankyousign: :thankyousign:
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Post by: jd on October 03, 2014, 10:13:32 PM
Looking great Mr PP :claphappy: :claphappy:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2014, 07:07:03 AM
The managers of the Castle Brewery and the Castle Estates are delighted to learn that the PWM gang have done such an excellent job at Trepol Bay relaying the faulty track so quickly. Accordingly, some crates of Castle Light Ale were sent in the latest van load of Castle Ales to thank them. The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed to the managers that the Castle Brewery van arrived safely at Port Perran (as can be seen) and will be soon at Trepol Bay. At Cant Cove, the "Railway Hotel" and "Tramway Inn" look forward to the van's 'return' with the guest ale from the Headland Brewery up in the town at Trepol Bay.

The Cornish Loco. Pres. Society at Cant Cove are very pleased that the old ex-LMSR brake van body that they carefully removed from its chassis and then sold to a cafe owner at Trepol Bay arrived safely, too. After they have caught up with painting the new wagons for the Castle Estates (the proceeds going into the society's coffers to help them to support the summer steam train service) they intend hiring an ex-GWR diesel railcar for a trip to Trepol Bay to inspect the new harbour cafe as soon as it opens for custom and a visit to the Headland Brewery.

As Trepol Bay has a very active harbour area (much busier Penmayne which will handles a limited range of goods, e.g. fuel oil for ships at the quayside) the Castle Estates are now likely to be sending wagons to Trepol Bay, too, with exports and returning with imports!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2014, 07:11:19 AM
Many thanks for the lovely pictures, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on October 05, 2014, 12:10:15 PM
I have been mulling over how to achieve vehicular access from the upper level at Trepol Bay down to harbour level. Decided on a substantial bridge/viaduct on a bend. This will be a fairly major scenic part of the layout so will need to look pretty good.
Have spent this morning cutting out (very, very roughly) a cardboard mock up. This is a very rough template that will be replaced with a more accurate version. The whole think will be constructed as a wooden frame with plasticard covering it. Thinking it over (to see if I'm happy) before I post a photo for comments later.
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Post by: jonclox on October 05, 2014, 02:38:41 PM
I have been mulling over how to achieve vehicular access from the upper level at Trepol Bay down to harbour level. Decided on a substantial bridge/viaduct on a bend. This will be a fairly major scenic part of the layout so will need to look pretty good.
Have spent this morning cutting out (very, very roughly) a cardboard mock up. This is a very rough template that will be replaced with a more accurate version. The whole think will be constructed as a wooden frame with plasticard covering it. Thinking it over (to see if I'm happy) before I post a photo for comments later.
Sounds a very interesting project. I look forward to reading and following its progress  :) :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 05, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
I have been mulling over how to achieve vehicular access from the upper level at Trepol Bay down to harbour level. Decided on a substantial bridge/viaduct on a bend. This will be a fairly major scenic part of the layout so will need to look pretty good.
Have spent this morning cutting out (very, very roughly) a cardboard mock up. This is a very rough template that will be replaced with a more accurate version. The whole think will be constructed as a wooden frame with plasticard covering it. Thinking it over (to see if I'm happy) before I post a photo for comments later.

Looking forward to seeing your mock-up when you have one which you're happy with, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on October 05, 2014, 03:11:08 PM
Well - here it is for what it's worth at this stage !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TBBridge1_zps647386c2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TBBridge1_zps647386c2.jpg.html)
First off, this looks a mess and it is only a few bits of card VERY roughly cut out to give me an idea of scale etc.
The track where the fish van is placed is the main branchline into Trepol Bay station.
The track where the pannier and brakevan are descending is the line down to the harbour.
The railcar is placed in a harbour siding spur.
So, I need two arches over the two main lines which will be curved arches as just above the brakevan (I only have one at the moment !).
The main structure carries a road over the two tracks which will have a 90 degree turn and descend to the harbour level.
Small workshops will be built into the main structure with windows and access doors etc. The whole thing will be made with plasticard stone walling effect sheets. Double thickness separated by coffee stirrers where needed.
I think that it will work. Any thoughts ?
If all seems OK (and do remember that this is a VERY rough outline at this stage), I hope to press ahead over the next couple of weeks.
Don't be afraid to criticise if you don't think that it will look right.

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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 05, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Overall, I think it looks good, Martin. However, I would try to incorporate a curve rather than a 90 degree turn from the main road to the slope downward to the harbour level if the harbour siding spur allows. The curve could even be supported by a small arch above the end of the siding. If the main branchline into Trepol Bay station and  the line down to the harbour were constructed at the same time I would try to use exactly the same style of bridge.

Small workshops built into the main structure with windows and access doors (I'd recommend you use the Ratio plastic doors and brass industrial windows) sounds a very good use of the space but then why not make that part filled in arches? As the whole thing will be made with plasticard stone walling effect sheets, I'd look at the larger German sheets (e.g. 52 410 Bruchsteinplatte klein, sorry I do not know the manufacturer, I bought them in Prague, in the summer) rather than the small Ratio ones. I'm sure you'll make an excellent job of it all.
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Post by: port perran on October 05, 2014, 04:54:07 PM
Thanks for the input Chris.
Yes, I agree, if I can incorporate a curve (rather than a 90 degree turn)with an arch over the siding, I will. I'll have a "play" with that idea later.   It all depends on space.
Yes, I shall be using the ratio doors and etched windows and yes, I may include part filed in arches.
And, thanks, I'll do a search on those larger German sheets of plasticard.
Overall, it needs to be a major feature of the whole layout so needs careful thought and it will have to look ok.
Next step will be a more detailed and accurate mock-up. Can't afford to get it wrong so I will definitely take my time over this.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 05, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I will have something similar in the form of a series of road overbridges at Penmayne (which I planned long before Cant Cove but will only be built in the future when I have more space).

I agree it is definitely well worth taking your time and making detailed mockups, first, in card. Not least because the plastic sheets are expensive and take time and effort to cut through. (I used parts of the one I specified for the mineral tramway bridge near the station I made this summer and the base for the water tower I started making last month.) Just cutting the spaces for doors and windows takes time and effort. It might be worth considering having the road bridge cross the lines at a slight angle (rather than at right angles to the track), again, as I plan to do for the mineral tramway bridge.
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Post by: port perran on October 05, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I will have something similar in the form of a series of road overbridges at Penmayne (which I planned long before Cant Cove but will only be built in the future when I have more space.)

I agree it is definitely well worth taking your time and making detailed mockups, first, in card. Not least because the plastic sheets are expensive and take time and effort to cut through. (I used parts of the one I specified for the tramway bridge I made this summer and the base for the water tower I started making last month.) Just cutting the spaces for doors and windows takes time and effort. It might be worth considering having the road bridge cross the lines at a slight angle (rather than at right angles to the track), again, as I plan to do for the tramway bridge.
Thanks for the advice. Yes, it will be at a slight angle to the track. I think that's important so that it doesn't all look too neat.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 06:45:46 AM
Good morning Martin, I have in mind a stone-built approach ramp something like this:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/StoneApproach_zpsf92feeb4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/StoneApproach_zpsf92feeb4.jpg.html)

Without the vegetation and a rather broader roadway, of course.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
To support the curved corner of the road above the siding you might need a squinch (or something similar):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/squinch_zps390e1b3e.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/squinch_zps390e1b3e.jpg.html)

8-)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 09:24:17 AM
This might be good for your stone walls?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121372956656? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121372956656?)
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Post by: port perran on October 07, 2014, 08:29:34 PM
Thanks for the suggestions Chris. I've decided to go for the 90 degree bend for the bridge and I believe that it is prototypical. It will allow me to do what I want more realistically.
I've actually got quite a supply of various grades of plasticard and today bought some Peco tunnel mouths which I will be "butchering" to make curved arches for the two main tracks.
Been working quite late this week so it will be a while before I really get into starting the whole thing as I like to spend a bit of time on a project this size rather than odd minutes here and there.
Will post pictures though as it progresses.
I did , however, buy a Peco SR banana van today (on impulse) - so my SR van collection is (slowly) growing !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
I understand, Martin, it is your layout and you can see it in 3D. Glad that you've enough of the right type of plasticard. I was very pleased to be able to buy some suitable large stone sheets, here, as all I had were the small Ratio sheets (of every type). I still need to buy some balsa wood, here, though (but I know where to go).

Peco tunnel mouths could definitely make good curved arches for your main tracks.

I look forward to the photos., as time allows.

I also cannot work on anything major by grabbing a few minutes here and there. Painting a wagon body is about the smallest task i can grab enough spare time for. I'm so busy that I was only just able to finish Jon's ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' van and paint some wagon underframes matt black, for a break.

The SR used to have rail-served banana depts were the refrigerated green bananas were taken for ripening. There was one in North Devon; I think at Barnstaple? I also have a Peco and a Graham Farish Fyffes banana van plus a Peco BR brown ventilated van with Fyffes sign.

It's definitely good to build up a collection of SR vans and wagons. I will return to my two metal kit vans, later.

When I was going through my wagons' box to find my china clay wagons to take a photo., I discovered that I have a duplicate boxed Peco Conflat with BR furniture container and a duplicate boxed Peco Worthington No. 3 van, both in very good condition.
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Post by: port perran on October 08, 2014, 09:10:36 AM
Yes, hopefully construction can start soon though we do have a busy spell coming up so may take a while to finish.
By the way, we are hoping to pop into Bude on Friday week so will try to get some photos of the layout there in the museum if time permits.
As Trepol Bay is currently connected directly to Port Perran, it draws its power from that layout but as I propose to take it stand alone to exhibitions, I have to consider making a small control panel to house controller and point switches etc.   I also have some 8 or possibly 9 point motors to install but that will have to wait till after Christmas (but, of course, I will have retired pretty much by then)and..... it's not part of the construction which I enjoy (I know the difficulties that I encountered with Port Perran !). Adfditionally, I want each point motor on Trepol Bay to be able to be controlled both from the stand alone Panel and from Port Perran's control panel so I'll need to build that flexibility into the wiring. Happy Days !!
I have (in stock) a variety of street lighting and internal house lighting so will be adding these to Trepol Bay as I progress.  Lots to do.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 08, 2014, 12:38:26 PM
Sounds like you have plenty of work ahead of you, Martin. At least you've got the experience of Port Perran to draw on.

I have still to buy the lighting elements for Cant Cove but I have them in my eBay Watch List. I'm planning to take a very simple approach with no soldering if at all possible!
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Post by: port perran on October 09, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
Work has commenced on the road access bridge/viaduct to Trepol Bay harbour.
Not a lot to show for my efforts so far but will post some pictures hopefully in a day or so.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this, Martin, as it will, as you've written, be a key feature.

The Castle Estate's management has found a nice wooden building for their Trepol Bay office from a company called Kestrel. With better windows, drainpipes and a dark grey tiled roof they think it will project the right image! 8-)
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Post by: port perran on October 09, 2014, 01:02:52 PM
Yes, it will be a key feature and I am anxious to make it look weathered as a 100 year old Cornish bridge should.
In Cornwall, it is very common for bridges/buildings to be added to or amended/repaired over the years  (as needs dictated), often with non-matching materials (and frequently in a not particularly attractive way) so I am hoping to create something of that look so that the bridge doesn't look in any way pristine.
On the other hand, I don't want it to look too higgledy-piggledy (is that a word?).
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Post by: Newportnobby on October 09, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
I don't want it to look too higgledy-piggledy (is that a word?).

No, it's 2 words with a hyphen :-X
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
I was after a somewhat similar effect for the old mineral tramway bridge over the 'mainline' on the eastern side of Cant Cove station.
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Post by: smileyjon on October 10, 2014, 07:13:27 PM
More great ideas bounced around by great minds . . . . . . . hee hee  :D

Sounding good Martin and looking forward to pics.

I actually fitted ONE more piece to my railway today as there was one corner that didn't quite 'sit' right and each time I walked through the room it bothered me . . . now sorted.  Perhaps it's good to step back and re-think things now and again.  It was just a 75mm square of ply over an opening and I think it's right.  !00 square feet of countryside to go ! ! ! ! ! !

 :wave:
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Post by: port perran on October 12, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
Made a start with my road bridge down to the harbour.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0661_zpsf2833f54.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0661_zpsf2833f54.jpg.html)
The two skins for the front facing wall. I've used coffee stirrers as separators and here am waiting for the glue to dry.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0663_zps8a64a8aa.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0663_zps8a64a8aa.jpg.html)
The front wall now lodged in place to see if it actually fits. Which it pretty much does. There is a lot of tidying up to do and a couple of joins to fill in (especially the join to the left of the upper arch which I can magic away with a bit of weathering later) before I can paint it. I will be using coffee stirrers as coping stones on top of the inner and outer skins. These will be grooved to represent coping stones before I paint them.
I also need to cut and attach some finishing stones above the lower arch.
The back wall to be done next then the slope from the left edge to bring the road down to harbour level . This bit will have small workshops built into it with windows and doorways (a couple of which may be abandoned).
Finally, I can attach the roadway to the whole thing.
Overall, it looks a little messy at the moment but I am reasonably happy so far.
I shall probably paint the wall sections individually before I finally assemble the whole thing.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2014, 02:53:39 PM
Many thanks for the pictures, Martin. Excellent progress. Once you've finished painting and weathering, I'm sure it will all blend together and look highly realistic. I'd also try to have everything painted before fixing it in place.

Nice to see the ex-GWR diesel railcar put in an appearance as well as one of your pannier tanks.
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Post by: port perran on October 16, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
The PW gang from Port Perran have this evening repaired a slight "imperfection" in the line linking Port Perran with Trepol Bay. This problem had closed the line for the last few days but services have resumed this evening in earnest.  Even if a temporary 10mph speed restriction applies.
I haven't (I think) posted a picture previously of the way in which Port Perran links with Trepol Bay so here goes :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TBtoday1_zps19df8154.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TBtoday1_zps19df8154.jpg.html)
So.....we have Port Perran layout and fiddle yard lower with the line heading off the fiddle yard towards the fledgling Trepol Bay.
A pannier is heading back towards Port Perran with today's engineering train. Job completed.
The link line separates into two halfway up with the left line heading to Trepol Bay station and beyond and the right hand line heading (eventually) downgrade into Trepol Bay harbour sidings. The eagle eyed amongst you will note the glass of wine in Trepol Bay harbour !

As I've been running some trains this evening, here is a rather poor shot of a line up in my Fiddle Yard :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/TPtoday2_zps2ab7d796.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/TPtoday2_zps2ab7d796.jpg.html)
We have (left to right) :
A Pannier on an engineers train.
08 on a train of sea sand from Trepol Bay
T9 on a mixed goods.
Class 52 on a "Cricket Special" from Totnes to Port Perran (via Truro) bringing the Totnes CC team plus supporters to Port Perran for a National Village Cricket KO Cup Match between Port Perran and Totnes.
Class 25 on a Broccoli special ready to head up country via Truro an Devon towards London.
Q1 (sent up from Exmouth Junction where it was on loan from Salisbury)  as emergency cover at Trepol Bay for a failed Black Motor on (unusually) a local passenger from Wadebridge (via Trepol Bay).

Incidentally, Port Perran won the cricket match (20 overs per side) - Port Perran (batting first) scored 166-8 then bowled out Totnes CC for 97. No doubt the Totnes supporters drowned their sorrows in the Cornish Arms with a few pints of ale from the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove which had arrived as a special delivery via Wadebridge a few days earlier.
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Post by: jd on October 16, 2014, 08:53:22 PM
Thank for sharing Mr PP, you have two wonderful layouts the photos are awesome. It is very interesting on how you have linked them all together.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 16, 2014, 09:06:28 PM
Many thanks for those pictures, Martin. It is good to see how the two layouts are linked and to have a peek into your fiddle yard.

The Cornish Loco. Pres. Group (working under contract to the Castle Estates) are preparing a new rake of wagons for the Penmayne - Cant Cove - Wadebridge - Port Perran and Trepol Bay circuit. Following an agreement with Weaver Cove, some of the Castle Estates wagons will also be seen running there. The Castle Estates will also be dispatching two prize black bulls to Port Perran and Descanso Farm. Cant Cove's SR Class 04 diesel shunter will be preparing the train, tomorrow, all being well, for despatch to Wadebridge with onward transmission early next week. The official photographer and his blonde assistant have been invited to take a picture or two of the departing train. It is rumoured that the 'Fat Controller' may make an appearance from Plymouth!

All at Cant Cove congratulate Port Perran CC on its victory. The head brewer at the Castle Brewery was happy to hear that his ales went down well with the Totnes visitors.

The Wadebridge yardmaster is ringing around for more wagons and vans to serve the expanding trading area of both the Castle Estates and the Castle Brewery. An enquiry has been received from the Birmingham area. Meanwhile, the shedmaster at Penmayne is hoping to obtain a BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T for use on the increasingly heavy goods trains but has been told that none will be available until early next year. A SR Class 33 is also expected for driver training in the New Year as the "Atlantic Coast Express" to Penmayne will only be steam-hauled (Bulleid Light Pacific, one of a small pool given overhauls at Eastleigh and sponsored by the Castle Brewery) in the summer timetable starting in 1965. There is a rumour that a through carriage (a SR BCK) will be added to / dropped off from the "Atlantic Coast Express" at Wadebridge for Trepol Bay. However, time will tell!
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Post by: port perran on October 16, 2014, 10:12:50 PM
The draw has just been made.
And.....In the Quarter Finals , Port Perran CC are at Home to Wareham CC (Dorset).
Wareham beat Sandwich (of Kent) narrowly in the last round.
No doubt a special train will be arranged via Dorchester, Yeovil Junction, Exeter Central and on to North Cornwall.  Depending on support this may run to 5 or 6 carriages and may powered by an un-rebuilt WC or BB pacific.
Hopefully, the Headland Brewery (from Trepol Bay) will be sponsoring the match and arrangements are in hand  to team up with the Castle Brewery (Cant Cove) to erect a beer tent at the (tiny) Port Perran CC ground.
Buses will be arranged to transport supporters from Port Perran station to the Cricket Ground.
Admission 9 (old) pence !!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 16, 2014, 11:02:16 PM
The Castle Brewery (Cant Cove) will be happy to co-fund the beer tent at the Port Perran CC ground. The Cornish Loco. Pres. Group members (who work at Cant Cove loco. shed) are going to charter Penmayne's ex-GWR diesel railcar to take them to see the match. All off-duty railway staff from Cant Cove and Penmayne (those few who are not Cornish Loco. Pres. Group members) will be joining them plus members of the Castle Brewery and Castle Estates staff and management at Trevelver Castle, near Cant Cove. Should bookings exceed the capacity of the railcar, a 14XX and two autocoaches will be substituted courtesy of the Bodmin branch of the Great Western Society who have just bought them from BR WR.

Arrangements are in hand with the Headland Brewery of Trepol Bay to supply extra barrels of the Castle Ale guest beer for the beer tent in advance of the match to let the contents settle and 'drop clear' via the Castle Ales van diagramed in the regular goods train service from Wadebridge.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 12:31:44 AM
The 10.35 (a) 11.10 (d) goods to Wadebridge (a 11.17) departs behind Cant Cove's SR Class 04 pilot (being a autumn Saturday the line is not so busy so the usual BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T or D63XX Class 22 has not been rostered for the short journey):

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-10-18092500_zps778db730.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-10-18092500_zps778db730.jpg.html)

From left to right behind the Class 04 diesel shunter: ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van, Castle Ales covered van with casks for the forthcoming cricket match at Port Perran CC (no ex-works condition van was available as the only one standing at the brewery needed minor repairs), BR cattle truck conveying two prize black bulls, BR Late Bauxite ex-SR insulated / refrigerated van, Castle Estates ex-SR insulated / refrigerated van, Castle Estates 7-plank wagon with timber planks for loading onto a ship at Trepol Bay harbour, Castle Estates 5-plank wagon carrying crates for loading onto a ship at Trepol Bay harbour, and the serviced 7-plank wagon for painting into Headland Brewery livery at Trepol Bay. (The last 5 wagons all being transferred to Trepol Bay.)

To the left can also be seen the Castle Estates' goods agent's office at Trepol Bay.
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Post by: port perran on October 19, 2014, 08:23:15 PM
Looks great Chris.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 08:40:19 PM
Looks great Chris.

Many thanks, Martin. I'm really looking forward to seeing the five wagons (six with one of your cattle trucks as a substitute) running through Port Peran and then arriving at Trepol Bay. The Castle Brewery van has developed a 'hot box' at Wadebridge, I'm afraid, so the Castle Ale casks will have to be transferred to a van coming up from Port Perran. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on October 19, 2014, 08:41:47 PM
No worries. A replacement van will be sent up to Wadebridge in the next day or so.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 19, 2014, 08:43:46 PM
No worries. A replacement van will be sent up to Wadebridge in the next day or so.

That's great, Martin. That comes of the brewery sending out a van that is overdue an overhaul! 8-)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 20, 2014, 09:32:05 AM
The stationmaster at Cant Cove has just received a telephone call from the Wadebridge yardmaster to inform him that the overnight express goods from Nine Elms, London, has brought down a collection of wagons and vans which will be delivered to Cant Cove, this morning, on the 09.13 (d) Mixed from Wadebridge, arriving at Cant Cove at 09.22, where they will be dropped off for servicing and (most) repainting. Wadebridge has, unusually, rostered a Bulleid Light Pacific for the train. The official photographer and his auburn-haired assistant have been informed and will arrive at the loco. shed after their usual hearty breakfast at the "Railway Hotel". The members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group will be ready to get to work on the rolling stock later today. Amongst these wagons and vans are expected to be ones for forwarding, after servicing, on to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, where local arrangements for their painting have been made.
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Post by: smileyjon on October 21, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
It's all looking good Martin, a really worthwhile project.  Your usual high standard of course  :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on October 21, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
Thanks Jon.
Hope you enjoyed your recent holiday over here in the thinner part of Cornwall.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 21, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Work is well under way, at Cant Cove, on overhauling 2 pairs of vans (ex-SR type with uneven width horizontal planking and BR standard type) for despatch to the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay which has arranged for a local firm of painters to put them in the brewery's livery. One of each pair will be used on traffic: Trepol Bay - Port Perran - Cant Cove - Penmayne following the signing of a guest ales exchange agreement between the Headland and Castle Breweries.

Additionally, after the 'Fat Controller's recent visit to Cant Cove (must have been the fine lunch at the "Station Hotel" the BR Plymouth Divisional Manager enjoyed, hosted by the Lord of Trevelver Castle), BR WR has allocated a freshly overhauled van [actually it is a matching pair for 'through services] (with uneven width horizontal planking) for the Penmayne - Cant Cove - Port Perran - Trepol Bay circuit in view of the increasing goods traffic between them. Official photographs have been promised when they depart in the Mixed to Wadebridge.
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Post by: smileyjon on October 21, 2014, 06:29:06 PM
Martin are you saying I'm in The Fatter Bit . . . . . . .  :P
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Post by: port perran on October 21, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
Martin are you saying I'm in The Fatter Bit . . . . . . .  :P
Certainly am  :bounce: :bounce:
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Post by: smileyjon on October 21, 2014, 10:03:39 PM
Well !

If I was closer I'd . . . . I'd de-rail one of your wagons.

 :D
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2014, 02:57:56 PM
The Wadebridge yardmaster will telephone Port Perran when he has been informed of when the wagons for Trepol Bay will be departing on the 10.30 goods from Penmayne arriving at Cant Cove at 10.35 and departing at 11.10 for Wadebridge for arrival there at 11.17. (More deliveries of wagons for overhaul and selective repainting are awaited at Cant Cove.) Normally, the 10.30 goods is headed by a BR Standard 4MT or a N from Exmouth Junction (Exeter); or a D63XX 'Baby Warship' (Class 22) from Plymouth (Laira) sub-sheeded at St. Blazey but a Plymouth (Laira) D70XX 'Hymek' (Class 35) will be rostered to ensure that the longer than usual train with its valuable cargo of prize bulls arrives safely at Wadebridge. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 04:28:32 PM
Spent a few hours this afternoon tinkering with the first section of my road bridge down to the harbour. Filled in some detail bits and applied the first coat of paint. 
Also cut out and glued together the inner and outer skins of the second section. Once that is detailed and painted, I can lay the road surface  itself between the west and east walls of the bridge.
Then I will be able to complete the downhill ramp which will run at right angles to the bridge.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing the pictures in due course, Martin.
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Post by: wookie on October 26, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
I can lay the road surface

uh oh, I sense another road surface saga approaching :)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
Getting roads looking 'right' is surprisingly difficult. (It's a topic I've been thinking about for a while for Cant Cove which will have a station drive, a minor road, a country lane and a rutted grassy track. I look at a lot of layouts for inspiration.)
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 07:24:44 PM
I can lay the road surface

uh oh, I sense another road surface saga approaching :)

No....I'm OK with roads. Pictures will follow but it may be some time !
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Post by: wookie on October 26, 2014, 07:25:54 PM
I've used Scalescenes road surfaces on my High Street section, which look good but I'm not hugely impressed with the joins.
Being completely new to it I don't really know what else to try.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
I'd like to see some close-ups, if possible, of the roads at Port Perran as, from what I've seen in more general shots, they look very good, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
I've posted this before but I go for cardboard road sections (cut to shape) and painted dark grey. Then I put a VERY thin layer of watered down  grouting on them (spread with my finger) and smooth it down. When dry I roughly sand it off and then paint it whatever colour is appropriate.
Seems to work for me.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
Many thanks, Martin. I must have missed that.
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
I'd like to see some close-ups, if possible, of the roads at Port Perran as, from what I've seen in more general shots, they look very good, Martin.
I'll try to get some in the next few days Chris.
Port Perran was my trial layout (and a HUGE learning curve) so I have had a mix of successes with it. I'll get a photo or two of the best bits if I can.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
Many thanks, Martin. I'd appreciate that, when you've time.
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 07:55:44 PM
So.....today (we'll imagine it's Summer) Port Perran hosted Wareham in the Quarter Finals of the village KO Cricket Cup.
Unusually, a class 52 brought the Wareham team and supporters to Port Perran. The train left Wareham behind a WC class pacific  but the Class 52 deputised at Plymouth after the pacific failed. The train, strangely,  is made up of two chocolate and cream carriages plus a Maroon brake 2nd.
It is seen hare departing Port Perran with the empty stock which will be stored just outside Truro until the match is finished :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/cricketqf1_zps19286a31.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/cricketqf1_zps19286a31.jpg.html)
Shortly afterwards, a class 35 Hymek passed the same spot with a train of empty broccoli wagons (cattle trucks) bound for Truro. The train picked up (from Port Perran goods yard) an empty Castle Brewery wagon which will make its way from Port Perran to wadebridge and on to Cant Cove. The brewery very kindly sent some special ales to Port Perran for the big match.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/cricketqf2_zpse83562bf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/cricketqf2_zpse83562bf.jpg.html)
Incidentally on a lovely warm summer's day, Port Perran CC beat Wareham in a VERY tight match.
The scores : Port Perran (batting first in the 20 over game) scored 166-8 then bowled out Wareham after 19.4 overs for 162.
Being such a warm day the beer tent virtually sold out of ales from the Castle Brewery and the Headland Brewery at Trepol Bay.
The draw for the Semi-Finals will be made next week.
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Post by: wookie on October 26, 2014, 08:03:57 PM
I see they already have the Yule logs ready - there's planning for you....
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
I see they already have the Yule logs ready - there's planning for you....
Christmas is, of course, only just around the corner. ::)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 08:24:57 PM
Very nice pictures, Martin. Many thanks. Maybe the WR had some spare carriages and the SR did not? The SR usually changed locomotives at Exeter. SR crews did work over the WR between Exeter and Plymouth (ex-GWR line) and WR crews over the ex-LSWR line to keep the crews' route knowledge up-to-date in case of diversions. I must collect some twigs for use as N Scale logs. I've seen some here, in Brno, Moravia.

The Castle Brewery is readying its Old Strong Winter Ale for deliveries to its Cornish trading area and has invested in some more liveried goods vans due to its expanding sales, including to Weaver Cove.

The Castle Brewery's brewmaster is looking forward to meeting with his opposite number from the Headland Brewery, in Trepol Bay, at one of the cosy Port Perran inns, to discuss their guest ales program for the winter season.
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Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
Yes, twigs make for good logs.
I have a small wood yard/saw mill at Port Perran and have three log wagons which make a nice train which I often run behind various locomotives. However, I feel it looks best behind the Hymek or the Class 22.
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Post by: Bob Wild on October 26, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
I've used Scalescenes road surfaces on my High Street section, which look good but I'm not hugely impressed with the joins.
Being completely new to it I don't really know what else to try.

Me too! I note that you often get two different shades of grey where the vehicle tyres leave a trace. Don't know how to do that.

Bob
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 27, 2014, 07:19:01 AM
Thanks, Martin. I will collect some twig 'logs' this morning. The Castle Estates also has a sawmill and buys logs from surrounding areas for cutting into planks as well as using trees on its own land, so I will have wagons of logs (of various sizes) as well as planks which go to Port Perran and Trepol Bay as well as passing through Claverdon, Warks., and Weaver Cove, Cornwall. Timber will be imported via Trepol Bay Harbour as well as, eventually, Penmayne Quay.
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Post by: Mrs Port Perran on October 30, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Congratulations to Port Perran CC but did you know that the Village Knock Out Cricket Cup didn't exist before 1972?  ;)
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Post by: port perran on October 30, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
Ha Ha  :)    You are very much on the ball there.
I didn't realise that the National Village KO Cup didn't start till 1972.   
So....Rule 2 applies.
Rule 2 is like Rule 1 but it means I can alter history !

And...the Semi Final Draw has been made it is a bit of a long trip for Port Perran CC. They have been drawn away to Great Malvern.
No doubt a special train will be arranged to transport players and supporters.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
If the train is to Great Malvern then it will most likely be a Class 35 "Hymek" or Class 43 "Warship" at its head. Class 52 "Westerns" were never, normally, seen on the Worcester - Hereford line.
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Post by: port perran on October 30, 2014, 08:46:00 PM
We shall wait and see what heads the train away from Port Perran. It very much depends on support from the locals.
Maybe it will be steam hauled to Exeter (Truro's sole Manor is an occasional visitor to Port Perran) and then diesel hauled from there on. A Class 35 is (as Chris suggested) likely motive power - probably right through to Great Malvern.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 10:48:07 PM
A change of motive power at Exeter would be quite usual, whether the train was SR or WR.
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Post by: port perran on October 31, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Been doing some more construction work on the road bridge cum viaduct which runs down to the harbour.
But....I've hit a problem.
I've run out of coffee stirrers which are an essential part of the build. They act as perfect spacers between the inner and outer wall skins.  It is surprising just how many I've used so far !  Probably in excess of 40.
So.......I have to make a trip to Costa or Starbucks before I can go any further with the build.
If I make some progress over the weekend, I may run to photos on Sunday (maybe).
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Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2014, 04:41:05 PM
Looking forward to seeing the photos., Martin. Maybe it would be worth investing in a large collection of coffee stirrers bought on eBay? 8-)
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Post by: port perran on October 31, 2014, 04:44:24 PM
I was thinking about that but I think I only really need another 20 or so.
I'm sure that Costa can run to that !!   Shhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
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Post by: cycletrak9 on October 31, 2014, 09:13:40 PM
When I was making the stacks of sawn planks for the sawmill on Tintern I bought 1,000 for less than a fiver [post paid]. I've got about half of them still left. Happy to send you some if you're stuck.
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Post by: port perran on October 31, 2014, 09:40:31 PM
Many thanks for the offer.
If I can't get hold of a few tomorrow I'll send you a PM if that's OK.
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 02:46:24 PM
Visited Starbucks yesterday for a cup of coffee and restocked with coffee stirrers (well I couldn't really just walk in and out again with a bundle of the things !).
Work has therefore resumed on the Trepol Bay Harbour bridge.
Front and back  sections now joined (although no road way in place yet). The corner and sides now finished but waiting for the glue to dry. Most sections now fitted with coping stones. All surfaces painted with main coat though paint detailing and weathering still to be done.
When dry I can assemble the whole thing, I can fill in any small gaps with grout and  then I can start to add the detailing bits and pieces and finish adding the coping stones.
I'll finally add the road supports and road surfaces and also the inside of the bridge arches.

Meanwhile an ex GW box van has entered the paintshop premises of Messrs Trevallion & Son ready for painting into the Black & Gold livery of the Headland Brewery. The apprentice painter should be rubbing down and applying the undercoat next week.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 04:45:39 PM
Looking forward to  :photospleasesign: , Martin.

It's cold, foggy and grey here; not good for taking photos. I hope tomorrow will be better. I managed to finish most of the 'touch up' painting on the wagons and vans for Trepol Bay and Weaver Cove.

I hope that Messrs Trevallion & Son are ready for the new arrivals: two BR Standard ventilated vans, two ex-SR vans (NOT the ones with the uneven horizontal planking), and two open wagons for painting in into the Black & Gold livery of the Headland Brewery so that Cant Cove (and Penmayne) can also have one of each for 'through' running! The painters at Cant Cove have prepared them ready for painting.

This Tuesday, the 11:10 goods from Cant Cove to Wadebridge will be conveying an unusually large number of goods vehicles for forwarding to Trepol Bay, via Port Perran: 2 vans and 1 open wagon (actually 2X of each) for the Headland Brewery after servicing at Cant Cove loco. shed.; a Castle Brewery (ex-SR with the uneven horizontal planking) van which includes the first casks of Old Strong Winter Ale; a BR Bauxite ex-SR refrigerated / ventilated van for 'through' services; an old Fish Van in Early BR Bauxite (for 'through' deliveries of fresh seafood deliveries from Trepol Bay's fishermen to "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove; four Castle Estate vehicles, all ex-works, ex-SR refrigerated / ventilated van, 7-, 6-, and 5-plank open wagons with loads of crates and planks, and a SR 20-ton long wheelbase brake van for use on goods trains on the steep inline down to the Trepol Bay harbour. A Class 35 (as they will become) 'Hymek' from Plymouth (Laira) has been restored.

The Castle Brewery head brewer and the General Manager of the Castle Estates have been given permission by the 'Fat Controller' to travel in the commodious brake van into which some old armchairs have been fixed for the journey to Trepol Bay! Penmayne's senior guard has volunteered to accompany them (no doubt he is looking forward to 'signing off' on arrival at Port Perran to enjoy a late lunch in one of the nearby hostelries when the Port Perran crew take over the train).
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
A few photos of the construction of the harbour bridge carrying the road from station level down to the harbour itself :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0663_zps20b2e01f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0663_zps20b2e01f.jpg.html)
This is where we were this morning :

And progress (if that's what you can call it !) today :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0733_zps26bbe430.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0733_zps26bbe430.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0735_zps273501fb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0735_zps273501fb.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0736_zps4aaa8385.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0736_zps4aaa8385.jpg.html)

So....the basics are now in place. The paintwork is just the initial coat and will be improved and weathered. I've got to add some detailing (particularly on the forward facing wall which will include some ancient warehouse doors and a couple of boarded up windows). I also need to finish the coping stones and, of course, I need to add the road surface.
I'm reasonable happy with progress so far and and I think it will look a whole lot better when painting is finished and the weathering is applied. I shall also be adding some greenery growth and a few saplings/brambles climbing up the walls. I also need to add a few abutments and possibly a lower edging around the base of the bridge.
The join in the plasticard midway along the front edge will be weathered away eventually and I need to pick out some of the individual blockwork to add effect.
Luckily, I still have a few coffee stirrers left despite using 20 or so today !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 07:17:13 PM
Looking good, Martin. Thanks for the photos.
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 07:19:28 PM
Messrs Trevallion and Sons are hoping to gain some good experience with the initial ex GW van before the new arrivals from Cant Cove.
Pictures will follow.
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 07:25:46 PM
I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any suggestions for improvements to the bridge or if I need to add anything in the way of detailing ?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 07:29:42 PM
I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any suggestions for improvements to the bridge or if I need to add anything in the way of detailing ?

I do still wonder about the very sharp 90 degree turn off the bridge onto the downward slope but, otherwise, I think it looks very good. Maybe a broken or missing coping stone on the incline wall? Definitely a mirror (aluminium foil?) on a post at the top of the slope to aid visibility on what is a 'blind' bend?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
Messrs Trevallion and Sons are hoping to gain some good experience with the initial ex GW van before the new arrivals from Cant Cove.
Pictures will follow.

Very good idea. It took me a few wagons before I was happy with my painting results.
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 07:48:47 PM
Yes, I hadn't thought about a missing or damaged coping stone. Good idea.
I'm am keeping the 90 degree bend. I think the vehicles of the day would cope and I've based it on a bridge that I remember from my spotting days when I made a few visits to Eastleigh (watching Bulleid pacifics and various ex SR moguls etc, plus a variety of standards  at the end of steam in 66/67). The bridge from the station up and over the main line to the shed/works area was (if memory serves me correctly) a sharp 90 degree bend.
I think it looks OK so I'm happy.
I'll think about a mirror (will be tiny though). 
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
I've added one additional photo which more clearly shows the bridge in situ to show the scale of it and how it fits into the layout. I think it also shows the differing levels involved quite well:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0737_zps8f8bf1cc.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0737_zps8f8bf1cc.jpg.html)
The brake van body which will be converted into a  snack bar and which arrived from Cant Cove a few weeks back will be situated near the base of the bridge and will serve the workforce in the harbour area. No doubt the wafting smell of bacon and eggs will prove very tempting.
The pannier (restored in GW livery) is sitting on the short siding that runs behind the bridge which will serve a builder's merchant's yard and the local coal merchant.
The two wagons in brown undercoat (Z scale) are sitting (without wheels at the moment) on the narrow gauge track that runs alongside the canal.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 08:10:18 PM
Looks good, Martin. The extra picture is very helpful. Do you want a dustbin (I have a 'battered' spare one) for the snackbar?
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Post by: port perran on November 02, 2014, 08:18:33 PM
Thanks Chris.
If you have a spare dustbin that would be great.
I wanted to get the bridge in place early in the layout construction as it will be such an important and dominant feature.
Construction will cease in a couple of days as we have guests arriving. Both layouts will have to be stored under the beds and the room will revert to a bedroom for a couple of weeks.
Hopefully, major work will restart on Trepol Bay in mid November and I can really get to work after late December. I have the wiring to do soon (electric points etc) - all holes are already pre-drilled for the Point Motors.
The next scenic work  once the bridge is finished will be the loco shed area and then the station buildings and platforms etc.
I will be lengthening the shed line slightly as per your suggestion of a few months back to allow room for coaling and watering facilities.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 02, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
I will include one for the cafe and one for the Castle Estates' agent's office; there were two bins amongst the odd collection of metal items glued into one of the wagons I recently bought.

Talking of wiring, I have just won 30m of suitable wire which should be more than enough to wire up Cant Cove in the coming holidays at the end of the year!
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Post by: wookie on November 03, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
The bridge looks really good Martin, well done!
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Post by: smileyjon on November 03, 2014, 05:18:42 PM
Looking wonderful Martin . . . . .Just make sure the bed over the stored railways cannot collapse  :D
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Post by: port perran on November 03, 2014, 08:11:34 PM
Looking wonderful Martin . . . . .Just make sure the bed over the stored railways cannot collapse  :D
Thanks Jon. I'm sure the railways will be safe & secure.
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Post by: Newportnobby on November 03, 2014, 08:14:11 PM
Very impressed with that bridge, Martin :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 03, 2014, 10:17:11 PM
I plan to be posting a picture of the next goods train for Trepol Bay via Wadebridge and Port Perran, tomorrow. Also, the finished Castle Estate's agent's office (work allowing).

I envy you the excellent progress you have already made on Trepol Bay; I think it will be full of LSWR / SR North Cornwall atmosphere. The granite bridges and walls are very good already and, I'm sure the finished (weathered with greenery, etc.) version will be up to your usual excellent standards.
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Post by: port perran on November 04, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
Isn't it strange how the parts of a model that you think will be easy end up being difficult !
I've been fixing in the supports for the roadway on my harbour bridge this evening.  I thought simply gluing them into place would be simple.
WRONG !!.....Getting them somewhere near level and straight proved tricky because of the differing levels on the bridge.
We shall see how I've done when the supports are dry and I can cut and lay the road surface.  I MUST wait till tomorrow for that so that the supports are firmly fixed in place.
I've also constructed the first "trial" abutment for the bridge. I'll see what it looks like once the glue is dry before deciding whether to use it or not !!  If not, it's back to the drawing board for abutments !
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Post by: Caz on November 05, 2014, 04:49:49 PM
Still hanging on to the edge of my seat awaiting the outcome.   :worried:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
Good morning from a sunny Cant Cove. The photographer and his assistant have been out to take some photos. of Plymouth Laira's D7028 (sub-shedded at St. Blazey and often running from Penmayne) at the head of the Trepol Bay portion of next Tuesday's 11.10 to Wadebridge conveying wagons and vans for Trepol Bay via Port Perran:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100246_zpsf7bf4d76.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100246_zpsf7bf4d76.jpg.html)

At the head of the train are two types of vans and a pair of open wagons for the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, for traffic to Cant Cove and Penmayne (one of each) to enable 'through' running -- actually, one of the first two vans is a spare as an identical van has been posted to you -- next is an ex-SR refrigerated / insulated van in BR Bauxite, a second type of Castle Brewery van, an ex-SR refrigerated / insulated van and three types of open wagon all in Castle Estates' livery and, finally, an ex-SR 20-ton long wheelbase van for use on the incline down to Trepol Bay Harbour (all for through traffic).

Here is a close-up of the vans and wagons prepared for the Headland Brewery:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100310_zps7aec5527.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100310_zps7aec5527.jpg.html)

And, finally, a close-up of the BR livery and Castle Brewery vans followed by the Castle Estates' van and wagons and the brake van:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141108_100332_zpsa218361d.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141108_100332_zpsa218361d.jpg.html)

The Wadebridge yardmaster has 'phoned Port Perran to ensure that the wagons and vans are picked up by the next goods train scheduled for Port Perran.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 12:54:52 PM
The pre-BR design Fish Van has not been forgotten, as soon as the signwriter has finished his work it will be taken by the ex-GWR diesel railcar (carrying the Cant Cove and Penmayne members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group on a 'study visit') through to Trepol Bay. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on November 08, 2014, 04:23:05 PM
Excellent work there Chris. An impressive train indeed.
I look forward to the arrival and will ensure that the yardmaster at Port Perran is fully briefed.
Do ensure that the prize bulls have plenty of food available !!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 04:50:18 PM
Thank you, Martin. Now that I have two very small paintbrushes, I will be able to paint small areas much better and not have to 'touch up' other painted areas afterward! (So painting should not take so long.)

In view of the high value of the pair prize bulls (for the farm at Port Perran and the Descanso Farm), it has been decided that the cattle truck with them will be taken along with the fish van straight through from Cant Cove to Port Perran then Trepol Bay by the ex-GWR diesel railcar rather than the goods to Wadebridge where they would have waited for the connecting service.
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Post by: port perran on November 08, 2014, 07:01:09 PM
Sounds like a good plan.
The prize bull destined for Trepol Bay(via Port Perran) is to be delivered (by road) to Seaview Farm at Trebarnon Gate which is just outside of Trepol Bay and owned by Farmer Jacob Poltaire.   Farmer Poltaire owns the only fully  accredited Herd of Black Angus cattle (noted for their beef steaks) in Cornwall and has been searching for a quality bull for some time.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 08, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
Excellent, Martin. I like it. 8-) (If I had had time to build the cattle dock -- at Christmas, I hope -- you could have seen the farm hands and their boss -- a very nice set of Preiser figures bought relatively cheaply via eBay Germany -- coaxing the two prize bulls into the cattle van.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
So.......we have guests for the next 8 or 9 days so Mrs PP and I have been very busy transforming the spare bedroom from Railway Room to Guest Bedroom.
Here is a photo of the room 3 days ago with Port Perran (left) and Trepol Bay (right). My "workbench" is the window sill. In addition Mrs PP's Descanso Farm is just out of shot.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Bedroom1_zps0d9fc837.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Bedroom1_zps0d9fc837.jpg.html)

And here we are today. All three layouts safely stowed under the beds. All stock and materials all stowed on the shelving under the window. 
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Goes to show what can be achieved, It's just a bit of hard work to take it all down and a time consuming job to set it all back up again. The difficult bit is realigning the two layouts so that the joining section fits perfectly.
Thanks to Mrs PP for all her help and hard work.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2014, 09:11:30 AM
Well done, both of you. I can only imagine how much work that must have been. I can now understand better how the two layouts (when in use) are located. I also now understand why you do not have all your stock out on the layouts! (I have three big storage boxes full.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2014, 05:04:53 PM
Yes, if I had all the stock on the layouts , I would be unable to run trains as the track would be too congested!
In the future (when Trepol Bay is finished) , I hope to be able to have stock on the railways to represent differing years as I feel fit.   I might also veer more towards WR or LSWR as the mood takes me (although the area I model sits happily with both).
For instance, I might go for 1958 with no diesels, or 1961 with a few diesels or 1962/3 as a transitional period or slightly later where diesels would start to dominate.
I would try to have stock available on the layouts to suit.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
I also plan to have stock on the railway to represent differing years between 1961 and 1968 as I feel fit.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2014, 09:22:11 PM
I also plan to have stock on the railway to represent differing years between 1961 and 1968 as I feel fit.
And with similar stock we should be able to run through trains.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2014, 09:43:55 PM
Yes, indeed, Martin. 8-) The big differences are SR locos. You have a Union Mills T9 but I don't (although I plan to get one, next year; however, I want one in BR lined black) whereas I have Southern Region BR standard 2-6-2Ts (1) and 2-6-4Ts (3), Ivatt 2-6-2Ts (2) and, of course, Bulleid Light Pacifics (6). (However, my working timetable, WTT, for Penmayne is much busier than that for the line to Trepol Bay, I think.) I also have a lot of BR Standard Mark Is and Bulleid coaches in SR Green but, again, your requirements for coaches are much less.

We're both waiting for a N, and, I think, BR SR Maunsell coaches and BR WR Maroon Hawksworth coaches. For (G)WR stock I think the overlap is much greater, ditto BR diesel hydraulics and diesel shunters (I have 3 X Class 03, 2 X Class 04 and one Class 08 in BR Blue but I need a Class 08 in unweathered BR Green with 'wasp stripes'). I'm also thinking about buying a Union Mills 700 Class 'Black Motor' which you're going to buy, soon, I believe. 'Black Motor' 30317 lasted until withdrawal in July 1961 and was shedded at 72A Exmouth Junction in 1959 so could well have been seen in North Cornwall. One of the reasons for having so many BR Standard 2-6-4Ts and Bulleid Light Pacifics is as replacements for T9s (which they DID replace) and Ns (I would need 3 Ns otherwise, which would be rather expensive).

I'm going to look at my WTT over Christmas to see the possibilities for through trains to Port Perran and Trepol Bay via Wadebridge and will consult with you.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2014, 10:59:30 PM
The Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay is nearly finished. Attaching the drainpipes was one of the most 'fiddly' tasks I've ever attempted. Only gluing on replacement buffers for missing and broken ones is more difficult! I hope to take pictures tomorrow but am out all day and evening.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on November 10, 2014, 09:27:12 PM
Don't you have trouble with fluff and dust on the layout Martin?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 10, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
Dust more than anything but I try to keep the layouts as clean as possible. When the layouts are re-assembled, the first job is a dust and track clean before I run any locomotives.
Everything has survived OK for 5 years so far.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
From what I have read and Bob (BRLines) and Douglas (Wickness Models) have told me after cleaning secondhand locos. I have bought dust and fluff are to be avoided at all costs!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 08:09:47 PM
Unfortunately, one of the drainpipes on the wall of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay came off so will have to be reglued (with super glue, again). However, it shows that, as I thought, the pipe needs to be glued at the bottom (to a raised drain) as well as at the top (to the gutter) if it is to survive the journey. Alas, a thesis student had a disaster so I will have to put railway modeling to one side for a few days. Fortunately, Trepol Bay (Martin) is not in a hurry for the office to arrive.

Here are two pictures (after completion, apart from the brageboards), the office is on the left:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/20141110_082919_zpsf5fb8c42.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/20141110_082919_zpsf5fb8c42.jpg.html)

To the right is the Coal Merchant's office for Cant Cove and coal bins. This office had a new front wall (actually the back wall which was replaced with plastic sheet) with different windows and door.

I will be producing colour printed nameboards on photographic paper to fit the roof boards in the Christmas break.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 11, 2014, 08:39:02 PM
Absolutely no rush Chris.
As you know , both Trepol Bay and Port Perran are stowed away for now. It is likely that they won't be set up again till Nov 24th so don't feel at all that you need to hurry.
All looking great though.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 11, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Many thanks, Martin. I'd rather finish the office to  a good standard and then pack it so that it arrives in the same state which means fixing the drainpipes properly then building a cardboard container to protect it in transit within the larger box. So, I will aim for departure to 'Wadebridge' next week.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2014, 02:20:02 PM
I have fixed the drainpipe and added two drains to hold the ends of the drainpipes in position. Tomorrow, I will add the bargeboards and then the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay will be ready to photograph and then post. That just leaves putting the "FISH" transfers on the vans so posting next Tuesday should be fine.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
I have fixed the drainpipe and added two drains to hold the ends of the drainpipes in position. Tomorrow, I will add the bargeboards and then the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay will be ready to photograph and then post. That just leaves putting the "FISH" transfers on the vans so posting next Tuesday should be fine.
Thanks for all your efforts Chris. I'm looking forward to the parcel arriving but please don't rush. If you miss Tuesday, it will be no problem. I'm sure it will all be well worth waiting for.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Thanks, Martin. I'm much happier now the drainpipes are fixed at the bottom to the drains glued to the sides. The bargeboards have now been successfully added. I'm now thinking a very small information board would look good added by the front door so I have cut two tiny plasticard ones and painted them! (I will be doing the same to the coal merchant's office which still has to have the drainpipes and drains added.) I've left them to dry. Tomorrow, I plan to glue them in place. Then both offices will really be finished.

Pictures I hope, tomorrow, (I'm out most of the day) or Saturday.

Posting next Tuesday still looks realistic.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2014, 10:18:49 PM
Two pictures quickly taken this morning (it was sunny) of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay but before the final 'touching up' of paint:

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(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/2014-11-14085416_zpsa3d875ff.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/2014-11-14085416_zpsa3d875ff.jpg.html)

As usual, such close-ups really show minor faults which are NOT visible at normal viewing distance!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on November 14, 2014, 11:24:47 PM
If it's an estate agents office, why aren't there any property particulars in the windows?  ::)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2014, 11:41:34 PM
Ah, it's a Estates Office in the sense of being the office representing the Castle Estates which is a business located near Cant Cove and runs the commercial operations of Trevelver Castle's estates (cattle, goats, horses, sheep, milk, meat, eggs, grain, stone, timber) apart from the award-winning Castle Brewery which is a stand alone business. Both provide substantial railfreight income for the line. (The real life North Cornwall line suffered from a lack of freight income which contributed to its closure.)

The Castle Estates has an agent in Trepol Bay Harbour because the company imports and exports goods through the port there. The office also represents the Castle Brewery which ha a guest ales trading agreement with the local Headland Brewery. An old Castle Brewery van body serves as a cask store.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 15, 2014, 08:16:15 AM
Two pictures quickly taken this morning (it was sunny) of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay but before the final 'touching up' of paint:

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Great work Chris.
The estate office looks good.   I shall have to start thinking seriously about the location of buildings at Trepol Bay although I want to finish the bridge first.

As usual, such close-ups really show minor faults which are NOT visible at normal viewing distance!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 08:23:22 AM
Thanks, Martin. When I have the signboards printed I will post them to you for fitting.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bob Wild on November 15, 2014, 02:25:42 PM
Two pictures quickly taken this morning (it was sunny) of the Castle Estates' agent's office for Trepol Bay but before the final 'touching up' of paint:

Nice modelling - how did you make those drainpipes and their mounting brackets?

Bob
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Many thanks, Bob. They came with the kit but are incredibly fiddly; I had to use superglue and tweezers. Even then I had to make a drain to 'anchor' the bottom of the drainpipes. I have not done any weathering so that Martin can, if he wishes, when he finishes all the buildings for his Trepol Bay Harbour. ideally, the gutters and drain pipes should be dry brushed with grey paint.

I will post pictures of all the offices I have made for Cant Cove which I will also have to weather, particularly the roofs. I should also really pick out different stones in various colours to look like the station buildings at Bodmin North and Bodmin General (for which I have colour pictures).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 15, 2014, 07:13:54 PM
Thanks Chris.
I think the little drain works really well and adds a nice touch of realism to the building.
I may well add a little weathering at a later date but it does look really as it is. The castle Estate office wil really stand out in Trepol Bay and will have a prominent position eventually.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Thanks, Martin. I'm very pleased with the drains and the doorsteps which I added to both buildings. The drains turned our perfectly for this model but still have to be adjusted on my Coal Merchant's office as they are too deep. The gutters turned out perfectly on this one but not so well on two of the others! It must be all those winter gales. 8-)

Over Christmas, I will attempt to weather the roofs of my offices / huts and may also attempt to paint individual stones on all my stone buildings (I need to get experience before tackling the scratchbuilt station buildings) and the mineral tramway bridge doing one colour after the other in my usual, 'production line' manner. I will look forward to seeing the office amongst the other buildings at Trepol Bay Harbour. I just have to do the "FISH" transfers. I will then take a picture of the ex-GWR diesel railcar with the Fish Van and Cattle Truck setting off via Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Bob Wild on November 16, 2014, 12:23:21 AM
Many thanks, Bob. They came with the kit but are incredibly fiddly;

Oh I see. I've got some 1mm brass rod which I'm going to try. That works out at about 6in in real life - a bit big for a normal building, but maybe OK for a big colliery building. Goodness only knows how I'm going to mount them.

Bob

Bob
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 16, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
Good morning Bob,
You might want to try using a pack of Ratio 300 Gutters & Downpipes (N Gauge) as the gutters are quite large even if the downpipes might not be suitable? You will need good lighting, superglue, tweezers, patience and a steady hand! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 17, 2014, 09:47:20 PM
Your box of wagons, vans, and scenic accessories will be posted, this week, I promise, Martin (I'm very busy with student theses and assignments). I'm really looking forward to seeing them arrive at Port Perran and then be transferred to Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: ChrisB on November 19, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
I usually just use the solid core mains cable for drainpipes etc. Stip off the outer sheath and you've got 1mm copper drainpipes.
Easily bendable for the kinky  ;) bits too
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 19, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
I usually just use the solid core mains cable for drainpipes etc. Stip off the outer sheath and you've got 1mm copper drainpipes.
Easily bendable for the kinky  ;) bits too
Not so sure I want Kinky Bits on Trepol Bay !! :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cycletrak9 on November 19, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
I usually just use the solid core mains cable for drainpipes etc. Stip off the outer sheath and you've got 1mm copper drainpipes.
Easily bendable for the kinky  ;) bits too
If you leave a small band of outer sheath on the wire at intervals you've also got the joins. OK they are a bit over scale but so, I suspect, are the Ratio ones. 
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
I have been able to buy a lot of the Ratio gutters and drainpipes plastic kits cheaply on eBay and will be using those. they ARE fiddly though. You need good lighting, patience, a steady hand, good tweezers and super glue. But I think the results are worth it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 19, 2014, 08:55:14 PM
So......Back to Rule 1.
 I spent some money (which is actually a Christmas Present) on a loco today for Trepol Bay.
After several weeks of dithering, I bit the bullet and bought an M7. Not at all typical of the N Cornwall line but I wanted a Southern tank (I'll have to wait for an O2) for light goods/passenger (eg schools train) and general shunting.  I think I can justify it under Ruile 1 (after all I also have a Q1).
Haven't run it yet as Trepol Bay (and Port Perran for that matter) are still packed away after having guests staying over the last couple of weeks.
I know that it hasn't received glowing reports in a dedicated thread but it does look good.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2014, 09:24:46 PM
The M7s are nice locos. (and did work in North Devon from Ilfracombe to Torrington), but, yes, an O2 would be typical for North Cornwall but they were replaced (in North Cornwall) by ex-GWR 0-6-0PTs in 1961 which, in turn, were replaced by Ivatt 2-6-2Ts in 1962 which are typical SR locos. and available, again, from Dapol. Also very appropriate would be a Graham Farish BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2T (although these, usually, were confined to the Bude line and were regarded as inferior to the Ivatt 2-6-2Ts) or, better, a Graham Farish BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T (can be bought quite cheaply on eBay) which worked both goods and passenger trains just before WR dieselisation.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
The "Railway Hotel", Cant Cove having, temporarily run out of the Castle Brewery's Old Strong Winter Ale (ABV - 5.5%),(described by the head brewer as "a very fruity, full-bodied late hop dark brew") the signwriter was sober enough to finish the lettering on the sides of the just overhauled and repainted ex-Great Northern Railway fish van which arrived at Wadebridge with a rake of ex-LNER short wheelbase guard's vans, these mainly for use on the Wenfordbridge branch.

Fortunately, Penmayne's ex-GWR diesel railcar had been chartered by the local members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group for their 'study trip' to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and the empty fish van was added to the cattle truck containing the two prize black bulls who were also booked to Port Perran and Trepol Bay and the train set off in time to arrive at Port Perran for a pub lunch where the bulls will be watered and inspected before the train goes on to Trepol Bay in the afternoon.

The train en route to Wadebridge:
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Close-up of the ex-Great Northern Railway fish van:

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Unfortunately, the photographer was not able to obtain a better close up. The letters at the top are FISH.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 20, 2014, 08:02:21 PM
Looks great Chris.
The landlord at the Cornish Arms is preparing some extra special Cornish pasties for the CLPG and has obtained extra supplies of ale from the Headland Brewery.
The local branch of the Great western Society are preparing a Special Challenge Quiz (based on Railway Topics) for the CLPG.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
Thanks, Martin. The CLPG have close links with the Bodmin branch of the GWS who took over the ex-GWR shed at Bodmin General from BR and had dock saddle tank 1369 based there for a while.  The members are particularly looking forward to their Cornish pasties accompanied by pints of Headland Brewery Best and the quiz evening to come with samples of Headland Brewery's special ales. The ex-GWR diesel railcar's crew (all CLPG members, of course) will be joining them as soon as they have delivered the wagons to Trepol Bay, 'parked' the railcar and 'booked off'. The railcar's guard has new 8 milk churns marked 'To Be Called For' to hand over. All are really looking forward to a great time in Port Perran and Trepol Bay after all their work renovating the loco. shed as their new home and then the wagons and vans for the Castle Estates' and Castle Brewery.

Traffic to Weaver Cove is on the up and up and the CLPG members have been warned that more vans and wagons will arrive before Christmas for their expert attention. The Castle Brewery's sales rep. has also been asked to enquire about making the Headland Brewery's excellent ales available in the Weaver Cove area, too. Fortuitously, a spare van has already been sent to Trepol Bay in the previous delivery. The Castle Brewery's Head Brewer has promised the CLPG team a small cask of Christmas Ale ('a spicy, fruity, full-bodied ale', ABV 7%) if all the next batch of wagons and vans are completed on time!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 22, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
The Wadebridge yardmaster has confirmed that, after the delay caused by the WR relaying the track between Wadebridge and Trepol Bay, the wagons sent from Cant Cove, including those for the Headland Brewery, are finally on their way.

Here they are en route:

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Here is a close-up of the wagons for the Headland Brewery's contract painters:

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Here is a close-up of the BR van, the Castle Brewery van and the Castle Estates' vans and wagons with the SR brake van:

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(The ex-GWR diesel railcar and its tail load were allowed through before the PWM gang from Cant Cove PWM depot got to work using their new Class 14 on loan to Penmayne from St. Blazey who had it on loan from Bristol Bath Road!)

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The PWM gang were ordered to have the line upgraded ready for the Christmas steam specials between Penmayne - Wadebridge - Trepol Bay and return with some diesel specials running via Weaver Cove one way.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 24, 2014, 03:25:22 PM
Both Port Perran and Trepol Bay are back in position in the spare bedroom now that our guests have departed.
Next job is to physically level everything again and join PP to TB with the non scenic extension.
I can then re-connect the control panel and see if everything still works - always a worrying moment.
If all works (probably test it tomorrow) I can put the stock and road vehicles back on Port Perran and then continue work on Trepol Bay. Hopefully everything will be back in action ready for the special train anticipated from Cant Cove later this week or early next week.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on November 24, 2014, 03:29:23 PM
Both Port Perran and Trepol Bay are back in position in the spare bedroom now that our guests have departed.
With a boot print on their backsides so you can get back to playing?  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 24, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
A special train is expected to arrive at Port Perran in the next few days with wagons of varying types from Cant Cove (running via Wadebridge).
The local press, especially the West Briton are on standby to record the special train.
The shedmaster at Port Perran will be despatching it's specially cleaned and maintained 0-6-0 pannier to collecxt the wagons from Wadebridge. This pannier has been retained at Port Perran and repainted in GW livery but is currently on loan to (and partially operated by) the West Cornwall branch of the Great Western Society who are hoping to raise the funds to buy the local (at a specially reduced rate) from BR.
Some of the wagons from Cant Cove will be bound for Trepol Bay. The shedmaster at Trepol Bay is entering into the spirit of the occasion by despatching his SR T9 to collect the wagons.  The T9 has been restored to Southern Livery by SR at Eastleigh and returned to North Cornwall. THe loco is owned by the fledgling National Railway Museum but under a special agreement, the Trepol Bay Branch of the Cornish Loco Preservation Group have agreed to operate this loco although it comes under the ultimate control of the shedmaster at Trepol Bay.
The CLPG (Trepol Bay) have invited special guests from the Cant Cove and Weaver Cove branches (plus employees from the Castle Brewery) to Port Perran and Trepol bay to witness the arrival of the vans.
The guests will be carried aboard a specially restored ex GW railcar (housed at Port Perran) owned by the Great Western Society.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 24, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
The CLPG (Cant Cove and Penmayne branches) have given a restored special wagon to their colleagues at the CLPG (Trepol Bay) as they already have two of their own to acknowledge their achievements keeping a T9 running at Trepol Bay. The GWS at Bodmin General will be supporting their Port Perran colleagues' efforts to keep a GWR liveried 57XX and ex-GWR diesel railcar running as Bodmin's own own GWR liveried 57XX is away receiving attention at Swindon Works along with their 61XX. However, they are supporting Penmayne's depot BR ex-GWR diesel railcar until their GWR liveried ex-GWR diesel railcar is repaired. [All 3 GWR liveried models are, actually, away awaiting DCC fitting and are at the back of the queue.] The CLPG Cant Cove and Penmayne branches are delighted to be joined by their colleagues from Weaver Cove as special guests along with employees from the Castle Brewery at Port Perran and Trepol Bay to witness the arrival of the vans.

The chairmen of the CLPG and GWS branches, along with the chairmen and head brewers of the Castle and Headland Breweries and the Port Perran Pastie Co. [?], will be using the opportunity to meet with local BR SR and WR management and other interested parties to agree the final details of the Christmas program of special trains in the area as part of the area's tourism promotion program devised by Lady Penelope of Trevelver Castle. The chef and his team from "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove (the hotel being temporarily closed for refurbishment) will also be present to discuss the special menu on the specials' RMB buffet cars which has been designed to accompany the special beers from the Castle and Headland Breweries.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on November 24, 2014, 10:31:49 PM
I look forward to being there. As the Chairman of Weaver Cove Train Spotting Association I will be there to take photos and video for a Christmas club meeting.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Sales of advance tickets are such that the daily special trains from Paddington and Waterloo to Wadebridge to connect with the specials are already almost sold out!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 03:03:38 PM
BR (W) have a green liveried small prarie still in operation and based at Port Perran. The GWS in Cornwall are in negotiation with BR to purchase the engine as it is rumoured that withdrawal is imminent.
Hopefully the sale of raffle tickets and other activities related to the Christmas events in and around Cant Cove, Weaver Cove, Port Perran & Trepol Bay will help to swell the funds so that the prarie can be saved.
If sufficient funds can be found by March, the prarie will be sent to Swindon for a full overhaul.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Only Me on November 25, 2014, 03:11:23 PM
Well That garbled little lot totally confused me.... so in a nutshell you are swapping wagons right :D ??
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
Well That garbled little lot totally confused me.... so in a nutshell you are swapping wagons right :D ??

Well, whilst we do have duplicate wagons and vans for 'through' trains, we also like to run 'through' passenger trains and special trains so it is fun to think up of back stories and post pictures of the trains running on our respective layouts (only my layout has not been built, yet!). Between us we do have some common locos., railcars, and carriages, already and, maybe, we will have more in future! However, we still have our own unique models which won't, therefore, we able to run 'through'.

I hope this all makes some sense. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
Thanks Chris. I can see how this is all very confusing to some people.
I think we must make it clear that we are not swapping wagons or stock BUT that we are (in some cases) painting stock (particularly wagons) into what is in effect private owner colours and sending duplicates off to each other. In the end we will be able to run virtually identical trains on three separate layouts thus looking like "through trains".
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
Anyway, as I have the afternoon off, I,ve reconnected the electrics on Port Perran (the layout having been stored for two weeks due to guests arriving).
Everything worked just fine except one point motor so spent 45 mins tracing the wire back. A wire had worked free from a choc box connector so that's now rectified.
This is something I have to live with when I take the layout down from time to time. No matter how careful we are, it is very easy to dislodge a wire or two.
I can now happily (and reasonably easily) reconnect the fiddle yard to Port Perran (though it does take a while to get it completely level again) then reconnect Port Perran to Trepol Bay.
Not sure I'll get that all completed this afternoon though.  Especially if I take too much time out to type on here !!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 04:15:33 PM
So....fiddle yard now re-connected.
Somehow the VERY short length of track that connects the East end to the main layout had vanished.  Where do these things go ?
So, had to cut and connect a new joining section.
Just the connection to Trepol Bay to put in place now. A job for tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
Very glad to read that the reconnection has gone well for Port Perran; I hope all will be well for Trepol Bay, tomorrow. (The box should arrive around the end of this week; early the next.)

I'm guessing that you have some WR BR Maroon carriages on Port Perran? (You can see mine behind my "Western" on my Cant Cove thread. BR Maroon WR BR Mark 1s are not easy to buy, I don't think Graham Farish produced many, producing many different chocolate and cream ones instead (I have enough for three C&W rakes but can only make a BR Maroon rake up if I also use Collett design coaches; I'm looking forward to the Hawksworth coaches, next year).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Very glad to read that the reconnection has gone well for Port Perran; I hope all will be well for Trepol Bay, tomorrow. (The box should arrive around the end of this week; early the next.)

I'm guessing that you have some WR BR Maroon carriages on Port Perran? (You can see mine behind my "Western" on my Cant Cove thread. BR Maroon WR BR Mark 1s are not easy to buy, I don't think Graham Farish produced many, producing many different chocolate and cream ones instead (I have enough for three C&W rakes but can only make a BR Maroon rake up if I also use Collett design coaches; I'm looking forward to the Hawksworth coaches, next year).
I am quite short on Mk1s but I have enough to make one 3 coach maroon set and one 3 car choc/cream set. I also have two blood and custard Mk1s.
I addition I have 2 maroon suburban and 2 choc/cream suburban western carriages and the Southern Stock which you already know about.
I also have quite a few parcels carriages as I do like to make up parcels trains.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
Having seen a photo. of a WR train with crimson & cream, maroon and chocolate cream Mark 1s all mixed together I bought a WR Crimson & Cream BSK W34189, the most useful type of coach to have! I could have used that with my maroon rake, I suppose.

Realistically, three to four coaches is fine for a Cornish branch line. Even in high summer, the Padstow portion of the "ACE" did not load to more than four coaches, usually, and two was standard. (Weekends were an exception.)

Maybe you can add a BR Maroon Hawksworth coach or two, next year? 8-)

I have no suburban carriages other than my 2 B Sets. I have one preserved GWR livery Collett Composite coach which belongs to the GWS Bodmin. I also have two autocoaches, one is meant for my (future) weed killing train. However, I want at least one of the Hawksworth autocoaches when they come out (two would be nice.

I have quite a few parcels carriages, too (and want more -- fortunately North Cornwall saw a wide variety including ex-LNER, ex-LMSR and BR standard as well as ex-SR and ex-GWR -- as I also like to make up parcels trains. I need to buy at least one of the new BR Maroon CCTs (I have an old Lima one already).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 06:31:37 PM
I look forward to being there. As the Chairman of Weaver Cove Train Spotting Association I will be there to take photos and video for a Christmas club meeting.
We might be looking for someone to act as Father Christmas! 😀😀😀
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
I look forward to being there. As the Chairman of Weaver Cove Train Spotting Association I will be there to take photos and video for a Christmas club meeting.
We might be looking for someone to act as Father Christmas! 😀😀😀

As the 'Elves' will be the VERY attractive 'Chelsea girls' (friends of Lady Penelope and Lord Charles's daughter, Sylvia) I think there will be no shortage of volunteers! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jd on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
I look forward to being there. As the Chairman of Weaver Cove Train Spotting Association I will be there to take photos and video for a Christmas club meeting.
We might be looking for someone to act as Father Christmas! 😀😀😀

As the 'Elves' will be the VERY attractive 'Chelsea girls' (friends of Lady Penelope's daughter) I think there will be no shortage of volunteers! 8-)

Sign me up lol.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
A wise decision, Jon! Sylvia's good friend, Mary Quant, a fashion designer and British fashion icon who is a key figure in the 1960s London-based youth fashion movement, (she is one of the designers who took credit for the miniskirt and hot pants), and who encourages young people to treat fashion as a game, is strongly rumoured to have designed the outfits for the 'Christmas Elves' who will be accompanying Father Christmas on the Christmas Specials as a thank you for Sylvia's mother's marketing advice.

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/ChristmasElfCostume_zps9a51f564.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/ChristmasElfCostume_zps9a51f564.jpg.html)

This photo. was found in a plain manilla folder, with Quant's signature daisy drawn on it, left on a table in the chartered RMB of the 00.15 from Waterloo to Penmayne, earlier this week . . .
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Hailstone on November 25, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Very glad to read that the reconnection has gone well for Port Perran; I hope all will be well for Trepol Bay, tomorrow. (The box should arrive around the end of this week; early the next.)

I'm guessing that you have some WR BR Maroon carriages on Port Perran? (You can see mine behind my "Western" on my Cant Cove thread. BR Maroon WR BR Mark 1s are not easy to buy, I don't think Graham Farish produced many, producing many different chocolate and cream ones instead (I have enough for three C&W rakes but can only make a BR Maroon rake up if I also use Collett design coaches; I'm looking forward to the Hawksworth coaches, next year).

if it helps, these are the model numbers of all the blue riband Farish maroon Mk1's that I have been able to identify/buy

BSK MAROON W34152 (374-187A)
 SK MAROON W24165 (374-061A)
 CK MAROON W15077 (374-257A)
 RU MAROON W1917  (374-121)
BG MAROON W81266 (374-036A weathered)
GUV MAROON W86148 (374-130)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
Many thanks for that, Hailstone. I have:

SK MAROON W24165 (374-061A)
RU MAROON W1917  (374-121)
GUV MAROON W86148 (374-130)

I have ordered CK MAROON W15077 (374-257A) to add to the rake; that just leaves the BSK to get.

I also have some non-Blue Riband China made WR BR Maroon Mark 1s.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 07:37:57 PM
The same RU as mine is currently for sale at a reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAHAM-FARISH-N-374-116A-MK1-RU-RESTAURANT-CAR-MAROON-NEW-BOXED-/271671690592? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAHAM-FARISH-N-374-116A-MK1-RU-RESTAURANT-CAR-MAROON-NEW-BOXED-/271671690592?)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on November 26, 2014, 09:30:29 AM
So....fiddle yard now re-connected.
Somehow the VERY short length of track that connects the East end to the main layout had vanished.  Where do these things go ?
:hmmm: Maybe its been hijacked and taken back home  by some central European raider  :whistle:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
There was frantic activity at Port Perran loco shed this morning.
An urgent call from the yardmaster at Wadebridge indicated that an extra long freight (eventually bound for Port Perran and Trepol Bay) is expected to arrive some 36 hours early at Wadebridge at 08.45am.
As the freight is unusually long the Wadebridge yardmaster is anxious for it to be transferred on to Port Perran as soon as possible to avoid cluttering up the yard.
The shedmaster at Port Perran readied the Pannier (in ex GW livery) but realised that the loco would need assistance. Port Perran's prarie (in GW green and the subject of a preservation bid) was at Truro but was quickly recalled to Port Perran. Both locos would make their way to wadebridge to collect the special freight.
Both locos are seen below on Port Perran loco being coaled and watered for the run up to Wadebridge. They will be taking the Toad brakevan (waiting in the goods loop) manned by Sandy Trevornan :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Special1_zpsfc0deef6.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Special1_zpsfc0deef6.jpg.html)
The two locos are expected to reach Wadebridge at 11-00am ready to depart with the freight to Port Perran at 1-30pm.
It is expected that the ex GW railcar will follow on to Wadebridge and then Port Perran later in the afternoon conveying dignitaries from the CLPG and Castle Estates/Brewery to a special event at Trepol Bay.
More details later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 05:17:11 PM
Many thanks, Martin. I look forward to more photos. Cant Cove's PWM gang, supporting the main North Cornwall line PWM department at Halwill Junction, completed the line upgrading from Wadebridge to Trepol Bay ahead of schedule (thanks to good weather) which allowed the goods train from Cant Cove held outside Wadebridge the last few days to arrive. (Penmayne had to send the train crew by light engine, Cant Cove's Class 04 shunter, (the cab was crowded) to the parked train to take it forward into the yard.)

However, before the ex-GWR diesel railcar with the cattle truck and fish van could leave, the pair of black prize bulls had to be coaxed out of the cattle pen and back into the van! A busy time for all at Wadebridge.

Once Port Perran's 57XX plus 45XX arrived and had their pictures taken, the Penmayne crew could change cabs in their D70XX "Hymek" and slowly follow the Class 04 (which returned to Cant Cove yard as quickly as its 25 mph (40 km/h) maximum speed allowed) back to Penmayne.

Once the Wadebridge area was reported clear and there was a gap in the scheduled services from Penmayne, the second D70XX from Penmayne TRSMD was sent light engine to Bodmin Road to pick up the WR Maroon 'scratch set' to be stabled in Penmayne yard where the kitchen in the RU could be thoroughly inspected by the chef from Cant Cove's "Station Hotel". However, first, the carriages had been thoroughly cleaned by a small remaining group of CLPG volunteers after the "Hymek" had taken the rake through the carriage washer that Lady Penelope had insisted the WR provided. ("Tourists don't like dirty carriages!") The bar at the "Railwayman's Arms" next to Penmayne depot was particularly busy that evening with all those who could not be in Port Perran and Trepol Bay! With the line blocked to Trepol Bay, supplies of the Headland Brewery guest ale had run out so the Castle Brewery had had to send more casks of "Castle Best Bitter" instead to ensure that the landlady could ensure enough beer to slake the railwaymen's thirsts.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2014, 05:20:55 PM
News has filtered through at Port Perran that the two locos have reached Wadebridge.
The freight is due to leave at 2.30 (an hour behind schedule) and a path will have to be found for it between local passenger and schools trains. It is expected at Port Perran at approx. 4.45pm.
The grapevine has been busy and large numbers of enthusiasts are likely at the lineside to witness the passage of the special freight.
Due to arriving nearly 2 days early, the special event planned to greet the arrival at Trepol Bay has been hurriedly brought forward. A marquee is to be erected on the quay jointly sponsored by the Headland and Castle breweries.
The quiz, originally planned for the Cornish Arms at Port Perran will now take place in the Harbour Inn at Trepol Bay.
The ex GW railcar (carrying dignitaries from the Cant Cove area) wil follow the freight from Wadebridge and is expected to arrive at Port Perran station at 6-15pm.
The dignitaries will alight and transfer to a local 2 car dmu for onward passage to Trepol Bay accompanied by local guests, sponsors and members of the GWS and CLPG.
A good evening is expected.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 05:50:26 PM
The Cant Cove CLPG members, their friends from the GWS Bodmin General, and the assorted dignitaries from Cant Cove and Penmayne are all looking forward to the celebrations at Port Perran and Trepol Bay coinciding with the reopening of the upgraded line from Wadebridge to Port Perran (including the Weaver Cove loop) and the arrival of the overhauled wagons and vans for the Headland Brewery and CLPG Trepol Bay plus the regular wagons and vans.

It is rumoured that the Managing Directors of the Headland and Castle breweries will, this evening, sign a formal co-operation agreement and will each buy shares in the other's company to prevent Whitbread (which has been 'sniffing' around doing the same as a precursor to buying the breweries up and closing them down so that it can get its hands on their valuable pubs). [From 1955, Whitbread began expanding through the acquisition of smaller brewers, eventually by 1971 taking over 26 regional British breweries.])
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
At 4-40pm the special train (ex Cant Cove via Wadebridge) is seen below approaching Port Perran.
[NB due to the long nature of the train, the only way I could photograph it in its entirety was on on the non-scenic link section between Port Perran and Trepol Bay].
The train, double headed by the prarie and pannier is seen slowly descending towards Tunnel Junction just outside of Port Perran station :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special2_zps6d380785.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special2_zps6d380785.jpg.html)
As anticipated, there was a strong contingent of lineside photographers out to record the event and one managed to get a few close up shots of some of the wagons as they paseed by :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special3_zps99ce7845.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special3_zps99ce7845.jpg.html)
The first few contain materials from Castle Estates at Cant Cove for construction work at Trepol Bay. The box van contains supplied from the Castle Brewery.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special4_zps755f498b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special4_zps755f498b.jpg.html)
Here we have an ex SR brake van destined for Trepol Bay harbour which will help goods trains descend the steep bank to harbour level. The open truck is a special gift from the Cornish Loco Preservation Group at Cant Cove to their colleagues at Port Perran (this wagon will be used to transport coal for their preserved steam locos).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special5_zps5aebbbec.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special5_zps5aebbbec.jpg.html)
Finally we have some box vans (of which one is pictured) which will be repainted into the livery of the Headland Brewey at Trepol bay., a fish van and two open wagons.
The train will be stabled at Port Perran for an hour or two before most of the wagons move off for Trepol Bay behind the SR liveried T9 which is normally based at the Bay.
[Many, many thanks to Chris (In Prague) for supplying and painting the wagons with such care and in such a beautifully detailed way. I only hope that the painters at Trepol bay can do as good a job in painting several box vans in Headland Brewery livery ]
[Hopefully, pictures of the Castle Estates office & store will follow in a day or so]
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2014, 07:02:56 PM
And finally for today we have the following picture :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special6_zps6407222f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special6_zps6407222f.jpg.html)
This shows the ex GW railcar having arrived at dusk at Port Perran station carrying dignitaries, staff and officers from the Castle Estates, volunteers from the CLPG and GWS and others from Cant Cove.
They will be transferring to the two car dmu (containing locals from the Port Perran area) waiting to depart for Trepol Bay where there will be an evening of festivities.
It is hoped that senior managers and directors from the Castle Brewery and the Headland brewery can come up with a merger plan that will prevent these popular local breweries from being subsumed by Whitbread.
[If you look carefully, a box van has been attached to the rear of the ex GW railcar. This van has been painted (as a trial) by staff at the Headland Brewery as a possible livery for its wagon fleet. This livery is black and gold and heralds the very popular Triple Spot Ale].
[Apologies that as Port Perran layout has only just been set up again after being stowed for two weeks, the beach section in front of the station has not yet been reattached!!].
Once again, a huge thanks to Chris for making all this possible ! :thankyousign: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 07:25:29 PM
Many thanks, Martin. It is indeed a long train and difficult to photograph.

The chef at Cant Cove's "Station Hotel" is looking forward to the daily deliveries of fresh fish and sea grass (?). The Chairman of the Cant Cove branch of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group will invite his Port Perran counterpart to break a bottle of 'Castle Pale Ale' over the coal wagon's buffers. A regular supply of best Welsh steaming coal will be supplied via Wadebridge using these restored SR long wheelbase wagons with one allocated to Trepol Bay shed, one at Cant Cove shed and one at Penmayne shed. (The GWS at Bodmin General have their own bogie wagon plus a four-wheeled one but have agreed to bulk buy coal together for Port Perran, Trepol Bay, Cant Cove, Penmayne and Weaver Cove thus saving everyone money and ensuring regular wagon load traffic via Wadebridge.)

The Managing Directors of the Headland and Castle Breweries have just signed a formal co-operation agreement and announced that each company has bought a blocking share in the other thus ensuring their continued independent existence and protecting them from Whitbread. The Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle have also announced that they will each buy 5% of the outstanding shares in the two breweries. Finally, the associations of the breweries' tenants have formed a co-operative to buy the remaining shares with a covenant preventing their resale to any other company. We can, therefore, confidently toast the two breweries' long-term prosperity and their continuing contribution to the local community and rail-borne goods traffic! The two breweries' head brewers have announced a competition to vote for and name a new ale to celebrate this co-operation. Each brewery will brew a special ale (not as strong as the Christmas and Winter Ales) and landlords will collect the votes for the best ale and the best name. The winner will win a cask of the ale and the runner up a crate of the bottled version. Every entrant in the competition will receive a numbered coupon for a free pint of the winning ale. As may be imagined these announcements were heartily cheered by all present and the celebrations are now in full swing.

A 14XX and autocoach taking the remaining members of the CLPG from Penmayne and Cant Cove, after they had 'booked off' from their BR duties, has just been reported arriving at Wadebridge. The passengers are already feeling nicely relaxed after having a couple of beers at Penmayne and Cant Cove before boarding!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
The first sighting of the prototype Headland Brewery van is eagerly awaited followed by further vans and wagons in due course. The visiting 14XX and autocoach will be ready, tomorrow, with a fresh crew to take a van load of Headland Brewery casks back with them in an empty Castle Brewery van from Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 26, 2014, 08:28:57 PM
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/special8_zpsda9fb6a5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/special8_zpsda9fb6a5.jpg.html)
The 14XX and autocoach arrived at Port Perran at 20.05 (from Cant Cove via Wadebridge) carrying the remaining members of the CLPG to the festivities at Trepol Bay. The train should arrive at 20.40 so the groupwill be in good time.
At the last moment, it was decided to add the prototype Headland Brewery van to the train so that the directors of the Headland and Castle Breweries can have a first viewing of the livery [Please note that at this stage this is a very rough free-hand "first go" at a livery idea - completed in a rush at the last moment] representing the flagship Triple Spot Ale.
Tomorrow the 14XX plus autocoach will travel back to Cant Cove taking the prototype wagon plus a further Castle Brewery van (in blue livery) which will contain empty casks after the evenings festivities.
It is expected that there will be much merriment in and around Trepol Bay this evening.
Most revellers will be travelling home by special trains tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 26, 2014, 08:40:31 PM
Many thanks, again, Martin. Very nice photo.

I do like the idea for the Headland Brewery livery. I'm planning to design transfers for the Castle Brewery and Castle Estates wagons and vans over the Christmas break then buy the special transfer paper and try them out. If all works out well, I'll post sets to everyone who has wagons and vans. I'm also going to colour print signboards on photographic paper and will post you a set, including for the Castle Estates' office.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 07:48:27 AM
The lighting and scenery at Port Perran are really excellent. I have found on eBay some made in China electric lights for interior and exterior use that I plan to buy and fit, in the New Year.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 27, 2014, 08:24:42 AM
The lighting and scenery at Port Perran are really excellent. I have found on eBay some made in China electric lights for interior and exterior use that i plan to buy and fit, in the New Year.
I think that lighting really adds to the atmosphere of a model. I still have a lot to add to Port Perran as I've only done the station and yard area so far.
The plan with Trepol Bay is to add interior and exterior lighting as I progress.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 08:53:44 AM
I'm planning to design all the buildings at Cant Cove for interior lighting and fit interior and exterior lighting from the start. However, the station lights are still under consideration as I would like to have the LSWR right hand screw thread lamp posts but with working LED lights and am not sure, yet, whether this will be possible.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 27, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
I'm pleased to report that Trepol Bay and Port Perran are now fully working (and joined together again).
All locos and stock (plus all motor vehicles) now back on the laouts and the beach section at the front of Port Perran is reattached.
Should all be OK for normal running again now.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on November 27, 2014, 06:41:00 PM
I have found on eBay some made in China electric lights for interior and exterior use that I plan to buy and fit, in the New Year.

I'm waiting for delivery of various lights that I ordered from China.
One of the sellers came highly recommended to me, so we will see.....
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 27, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
I have found on eBay some made in China electric lights for interior and exterior use that I plan to buy and fit, in the New Year.

I'm waiting for delivery of various lights that I ordered from China.
One of the sellers came highly recommended to me, so we will see.....
If , when they arrive, you are happy with them, perhaps you can let us know who you bought them from.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2014, 08:34:03 PM
I'm pleased to report that Trepol Bay and Port Perran are now fully working (and joined together again).
All locos and stock (plus all motor vehicles) now back on the laouts and the beach section at the front of Port Perran is reattached.
Should all be OK for normal running again now.

Excellent news, Martin. I'm very happy to read that and look forward to more photos., in due course.

I'm planning to make a promotional poster for the program of steam specials as soon as the semester is over in 3 weeks time!
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Post by: jd on November 27, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
I'm pleased to report that Trepol Bay and Port Perran are now fully working (and joined together again).
All locos and stock (plus all motor vehicles) now back on the laouts and the beach section at the front of Port Perran is reattached.
Should all be OK for normal running again now.

That great news Mr PP I'm pleased to hear that
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on November 27, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
If , when they arrive, you are happy with them, perhaps you can let us know who you bought them from.

Yes that's what I intend to do mate
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
The line-side fraternity in the Trepol Bay area have heard on the grapevine that a Class 700 Black Motor has just undergone a full overhaul and repaint at Eastleigh works and is expected to make its way to North Cornwall over the next day or so to take up duties there.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
That's excellent news, Martin. The next question is will it be ready to take part in the program of Christmastime specials? 8-)
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Post by: port perran on November 28, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
That's excellent news, Martin. The next question is will it be ready to take part in the program of Christmastime specials? 8-)
Rather depends on whether it gets delayed at Exmouth Junction shed on the way. They were prone to making use of any loco which happened to pass through !
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Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 03:36:44 PM
There was a surprise arrival at Trepol Bay station today in the form of a newly restored Black Motor 0-6-0. Through a joint initiative involving the Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group,British Railways (SR) and The Friends of the North Cornwall Railway, the Black Motor was fully overhauled and repainted (into SR black livery) at Eastleigh. THe preservation groups wanted to keep it in its former Souther Railway guise to complement the similarly restored T9 in use in the area.
The Black Motor made its way from Eastleigh to Exmouth Junction last week and then performed a couple of local railtour duties in and around the Exeter area over the weekend.
The loco was then used on a local to Wadebridge late yesterday then rostered on the Padstow to Newquay train this morning where it is pictured arriving at Trepol Bay station.
The station (in model terms not yet built!) is busy with the T9 about to leave on a local goods for Port Perran and an M7 (on trial in the area) shunting some newly arrived wagons from the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove :
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And finally a wider view of Trepol Bay with a pannier shunting the lower port level :
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The Castle Estates area office and store is in a temporary location whilst building work is undertaken in the harbour.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 03:49:42 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for the excellent photos. The 'Black Motor' certainly looks at home; I see that some preserved SR wagons and vans were found to run behind the T9, too! 8-)

I would have given the Castle Brewery van and wagon a coat of matt varnish only it turned out to be gloss! I need to get some proper matt varnish.

Will your SR non-corridor coach also be putting in an appearance?
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Post by: port perran on December 02, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for the excellent photos. The 'Black Motor' certainly looks at home; I see that some preserved SR wagons and vans were found to run behind the T9, too! 8-)

I would have given the Castle Brewery van and wagon a coat of matt varnish only it turned out to be gloss! I need to get some proper matt varnish.

Will your SR non-corridor coach also be putting in an appearance?
Indeed it will but it's still in the storage box after being put away whilst we had visitors staying !
Hopefully this weekend, work will resume on the scenic side of Trepol Bay. I need to get the viaduct finished and in place so that I can start to build the rest of the scenic detail around it.  Probably two days of work left to complete the viaduct.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
I look forward to the progress reports, Martin.  :photospleasesign:

Having 3 big stock boxes, I know the problem. Over Christmas I'm going to start matching my carriages to specific diagrams in my Summer Weekend WTT as I'm sure I have far too many LMR BR Maroon Mark 1s for just two trains: ex-Manchester and ex-Sheffield and return! (Based on the Newquay WTT.) And, I KNOW I have far too many C&C Mark 1s!

Once the Maunsells appear, assuming they are the right type, some of my BR SR Mark 1s will be surplus, too.  I hope some alternatively numbered Bulleid coaches will appear, next year, too. Otherwise, i will have to buy duplicates and try to renumber them. (Which I should do really, anyway, for all my SR coaches and add Set numbers on the ends.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2014, 09:12:45 PM
So....completed quite a bit of work this evening on the bridge/viaduct for Trepol Bay.
The road surface across the bridge is now in situ and painted (first coat).
All coping stones are now in place.
I've added the insides of the bridge interiors (where the tracks pass through).
Most of the painting is done bar a bit of touching up (then I have to weather it all and add a bit of greenery to give it a "living" effect).  I want it to appear in good order but look a little work weary and uncared for.
I've also constructed a small workshop which is built out from the front wall (giving the impression that some of the workshop is within the bridge structure).    I want to add another smaller workshop façade on the front of the bridge.
I can then "plant" the whole thing and scenically (hopefully), make it part of the landscape.
Hopefully some photos to come (perhaps at the weekend).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 10, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
Looking forward to those photos., in due course, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Spending most of the day on my bridge/viaduct for Trepol Bay today so hopefully will have some photos later (even if it's not quite finished).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2014, 11:15:44 AM
Looking forward to those photos., Martin. Personally, I find lots of progress photos. very helpful so, please, do not wait until the bridge area is finished to take some photos.
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Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 06:50:36 PM
Been raining pretty much all day here so had time to spend getting on with my three level viaduct at the entrance to Trepol Bay harbour.  The work started some 7 or 8 weeks ago so I was hopeful of making a big dent in the construction today.
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So here we are with the main structure weighted down to ensure a firm fix to the main baseboard.
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Meanwhile I got on with building some of the outbuildings/workshops which will be built into the inside of the viaduct but with outside extensions.
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Here we have the whole thing in place. I've added a small low garden at the front to the right of the workshop and added a retaining abutment (which would have been added to the bridge (probably after initial building) to add strength.
Hopefully from the photos you can see the three differing levels involved.
More pics to follow later.
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Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
More pictures :
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This is the front side of the bridge with the workshop extension and the strengthening abutment.
The rail track is Z scale representing a narrow gauge line which runs alongside the canal (just visible).
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This shows the three levels plus an additional workshop (the door frame needs weathering down).  The Class 22 is running into what will be the station with a local passenger. The pannier is running uphill from the harbour area with a stone train.
The two wagons are at harbour level.
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An overall view showing the canal (which still needs several coats of yacht varnish adding) and narrow gauge line (which is yet to be weathered and overgrown).
The dockside crane is just there for effect and will be moved to the harbour side.
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A closer view showing some of the imperfections. I intend to weather the whole thing with a light wash to take off the gloss effect which is heightened by the camera.
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Another closer view.  The narrow gauge wagons are only in base undercoat and have no wheels yet.
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An overall view showing the canal. The whole area in the foreground will be filled with workshops and sheds (as was the case at Hayle) to give (hopefully) a very ramshackle effect.
The track will be part ballasted and part embedded into cobbles (work to do).
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Another close up.
Overall, I am reasonably pleased although I can of course see lots of errors and mistakes. Hopefully though the effect is OK and will look even better when weathered a bit more (including adding greenery) and the other building crowd it in.
Time for a glass of vino methinks.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
Very nice to see the pictures, Martin. Trepol Bay Harbour area is coming on nicely. I recognised some of the rolling stock plus the old brake van body for the Harbour Cafe. Is that an SR PMV or CCT body next to it? I am planning to have a somewhat similar stone train, too, using a mix of BR and Castle Estates wagons.
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Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 07:05:49 PM
Sorry about the sideways photo !
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Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 07:09:07 PM
Very nice to see the pictures, Martin. Trepol Bay Harbour area is coming on nicely. I recognised some of the rolling stock plus the old brake van body for the Harbour Cafe. Is that an SR PMV or CCT body next to it? I am planning to have a somewhat similar stone train, too, using a mix of BR and Castle Estates wagons.
Yes I won two SR CCT van bodies on Ebay foe 1.49p (Mrs PP is having one on Descanso Farm).
The harbour café is not in its final spot there but added it in for effect.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
The SR CCT body will look at home once suitably weathered. If I have room for one, I may try the white metal kit rather than cannibalise one of my rake of Dapol CCTs.

I guessed the Harbour Cafe was not positioned in its final harbourside location. Inlaying the harbourside tracks in cobblestones will further add to the realism of the scene.

You'll have fun making the variety of workshops and sheds to come.
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Post by: port perran on December 14, 2014, 07:17:57 PM
At the VERY last moment, I remembered to drill holes under the two workshop buildings so that I can add internal lighting later.
Just remembered before I stuck things down !!
Would have been cursing if I had forgotten.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Ah, yes; must remember always to leave provision for lighting! 8-)
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Post by: wookie on December 14, 2014, 08:01:22 PM
That all looks proper pukka Martin  :D
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Post by: chrispearce on December 15, 2014, 03:14:43 AM
 :hellosign:

I am Chris - a new boy to the NGF. I like the work you are doing very much. A Cornish layout and one which captures the feel of the place! You star!  :thumbsup: I am planning a layout but not a Cornish one as I have TS12 on my PC and am building a full size rendition of Penzance to Buckshead Tunnel (east of Truro) including all the branches in 1950s/60s so I will build something LMS/LNER so I can use my existing n gauge stock. However, enough about me - keep up the excellant work and keep posting the pics. Especially like the NG feeder line - very Portreath methinks!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 15, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
Sorry about the sideways photo !

It's fine, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on December 15, 2014, 08:05:09 AM
:hellosign:

I am Chris - a new boy to the NGF. I like the work you are doing very much. A Cornish layout and one which captures the feel of the place! You star!  :thumbsup: I am planning a layout but not a Cornish one as I have TS12 on my PC and am building a full size rendition of Penzance to Buckshead Tunnel (east of Truro) including all the branches in 1950s/60s so I will build something LMS/LNER so I can use my existing n gauge stock. However, enough about me - keep up the excellant work and keep posting the pics. Especially like the NG feeder line - very Portreath methinks!
Thanks Chris and welcome to the forum.
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Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
Today I have done a bit more to Trepol Bay.
The narrow gauge track has been ballasted and the area between the track and canal has been roughly grassed.
Some greenery has been added to the viaduct.
Photos in a couple of days probably.
The next area for me to tackle is the small engine shed (Metcalfe kit).
My plan is to then move left to right on the top (station) level finishing with the station itself.
The temptation is to work on the lower port area first but if I do that I'll have to lean over that area to work on the station so it's the top level first !
I also have a decision to make, concerning the retaining wall which will separate the upper and lower levels. I have bought some plaster moulded wall sections for this . I have positioned one (unpainted) section in the photo below :
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It's the very bright white bit above the last wagon of the granite train.
I'd like to paint it a weathered brick colour as this will give the layout a slightly different colouration/contrast as many of the buildings will be dark granite. However, in real terms a Cornish equivalent would have been constructed of dark bricks.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 16, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
More good progress, Martin. I have some of those plaster moulded wall sections bought for Penmayne Harbour. How about painting them a lighter shade of grey instead of brick red. After all, the grey stone comes in many shades. You can also pick out individual stones in different colours like the walls of Bodmin General station building. That will brighten up the wall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 04:38:45 PM
More good progress, Martin. I have some of those plaster moulded wall sections bought for Penmayne Harbour. How about painting them a lighter shade of grey instead of brick red. After all, the grey stone comes in many shades. You can also pick out individual stones in different colours like the walls of Bodmin General station building. That will brighten up the wall.
Yes, good idea. I've painted a trial section in brick but I'm not really happy. I think I'll try another section in light grey as you suggest but will paint the detailed sections above the arches in dark grey.
I'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on December 16, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
I made a strong pot of tea, let it go cold, and then painted my plaster with that - it came out to a nice sandstone colour.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 16, 2014, 05:03:59 PM
To add colour you could have some big 1960s advertising posters. I can make one for the Headland Brewery over Christmas and any other local businesses like I have done for the Castle Brewery and Cornish Pixie ice cream brands.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 05:12:10 PM
I made a strong pot of tea, let it go cold, and then painted my plaster with that - it came out to a nice sandstone colour.
Interesting.  Something else to try.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 05:13:40 PM
To add colour you could have some big 1960s advertising posters. I can make one for the Headland Brewery over Christmas and any other local businesses like I have done for the Castle Brewery and Cornish Pixie ice cream brands.
That's also an interesting idea which I quite like.
Thank you. What size would they be ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
I think I'd go for Headland Brewery (as the tow breweries Castle & Headland) have a trading agreement, I think they could go on the same poster.
I wouldn't need more than 3 in total so how about :
Atlantic Coast Animal Feeds ( I intend to have a distribution warehouse for animal feeds). I think to represent a 60s company it might be Atlantic Coast Animal Feeds Co Ltd ??
Fresh Fish Daily from Cornwall - Padstow Fish Ltd ( a small fish processing plant will be at Trepol Bay).
I intend to have wagons (eventually) representing Headland Brewery, Padstow Fish Co , Atlantic Coast Animal feeds and Port Perran Granite.
Other business premises at Trepol Bay harbour (apart from Headland Brewery, the Animal Feeds Depot and the fish distribution warehouse) will include china clay transportation, sand transportation, engineering, a very small wagon repair workshop, general freight distribution (incoming/outgoing goods by sea), a ferry office (proposing sea trips to Lundy) and a veg/perishable produce handling warehouse.
There will, of course also be a Harbour Office and a Canal company office. I'm still thinking about a name for the canal itself.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
The final copies of the railway posters (delayed by a printers' strike) for the Christmas Steam specials have finally arrived at Wadebridge and Truro for local distribution:

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Additional versions of the poster with the central section, (under 15/-), can be changed to list the specific trains running from specific stations.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
I think I'd go for Headland Brewery (as the tow breweries Castle & Headland) have a trading agreement, I think they could go on the same poster.
I wouldn't need more than 3 in total so how about :
Atlantic Coast Animal Feeds ( I intend to have a distribution warehouse for animal feeds). I think to represent a 60s company it might be Atlantic Coast Animal Feeds Co Ltd ??
Fresh Fish Daily from Cornwall - Padstow Fish Ltd ( a small fish processing plant will be at Trepol Bay).
I intend to have wagons (eventually) representing Headland Brewery, Padstow Fish Co , Atlantic Coast Animal feeds and Port Perran Granite.
Other business premises at Trepol Bay harbour (apart from Headland Brewery, the Animal Feeds Depot and the fish distribution warehouse) will include china clay transportation, sand transportation, engineering, a very small wagon repair workshop, general freight distribution (incoming/outgoing goods by sea), a ferry office (proposing sea trips to Lundy) and a veg/perishable produce handling warehouse.
There will, of course also be a Harbour Office and a Canal company office. I'm still thinking about a name for the canal itself.

Those all sound excellent, Martin, and give me plenty of scope to design some nice advertising boards over the Christmas break. However, why not Trepol Bay Fish Co., instead? Atlantic Coast Animal Feeds vans would be frequent visitors to Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2014, 07:39:41 AM
Yes. Trepol Bay Fish Co would work OK.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 04:31:48 PM
There has been a great deal of interest amongst the local enthusiasts in the Port Perran area today.
In addition to several extra local trains (provided to take shoppers to and from Truro), there have been some additional workings connected with Special  Christmas trains from up country.
This has also resulted in a number of empty stock movements between Port Perran, Trepol Bay and Truro as their is insufficient space to store stock at Port Perran.
The Control Office at Truro has been especially busy creating paths for all of the additional train movements. This additional workload is expected to continue over the next few days leading up to Christmas.
Photographers from the Western Morning News and West Briton newspapers have been busy recording today's events and will be publishing the best of their work later today.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 05:00:28 PM
Looking forward to seeing those pictures, Martin.

The members of the Cornish Loco. Pres. Group at Cant Cove and the GWS at Bodmin General have been hard at work preparing their steam locomotives plus making ready for the visitors. BR staff at Penmayne, Cant Cove, and Wadebridge are at summer peak staffing levels; as have been, earlier this month, the staff at the Castle Brewery making sure that all the local licensed premises are fully stocked as if it were a summer weekend. The overnight 00.15 from Waterloo has been sold out for every night from the 18th to 23rd inclusive and several extra 'loose' Maunsell SKs have had to be added as well as the reserved BR Mark 1 FK and RMB for the night of Friday 21st to bring Sylvia and the Chelsea crowd down for the party at Trevelver Castle.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 05:34:38 PM
The staff photographer at the West Briton newspaper (who is a railway enthusiast) has unofficially released copies of his photographs of today's hectic activity at Port Perran station. It is to be hoped that he will not be reprimanded for his actions by the Editor.
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This first picture shows the 10.02 shopper's extra bound for Truro behind a 45XX prarie tank. Some ancient ex GW suburban stock (generally used only on the local school train) have been hastily pressed into service.
Meanwhile a 14XX awaits with the 10.22 timetabled departure for Lanharrack.

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At 10.55 the Black Motor which is jointly run by BR (S) and various enthusiast organisations in Cornwall runs into Port Perran with a two coach train (also a shopper special) which originated at Trepol Bay and is bound for Truro. An ex GW railcar also waits 1ith the 11.12 timetabled local for Truro and Par (note that an additional wagon has been added conveying Christmas parcels to Royal Mail Truro). The local 57XX pannier rests between shunting duties.

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At 11.47 a green liveried Western arrives with 3 coaches from a Christmas Special which originated at Paddington and dropped coaches at Exeter, Plymouth , Bodmin and Truro. The train will travel on to Trtepol Bay.  Meanwhile Trepol Bay's T9 (which like the Black Motor is run by BR(S) but supported by enthusiast groups) waits for a 12.10 departure to Truro. This is a Christmas Special originating at Wadebridge and travelling to Plymouth. The T9 will come off at Truro where an additional 6 carriages will be added. It is expected that BB Fighter Command will take the train on to Plymouth from Exeter (having arrived earlier with yet another special train).
A Bubble Car waits in the bay platform with the timetabled 12.25 service to Truro.

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Yet more activity at 15.05. One of Truro's Manors (having been specially cleaned) waits for the Western to return from Trepol Bay with the Christmas Special eventually bound for a return to Paddington.  The Manor will take the train on to Plymouth.   A Class 25 waits on the main line with a parcels train (with an extra two vans added due to the Christmas rush) from Plymouth to Trepol Bay. The Class 25 is a very unusual visitor to the area.
The Class 22 is waiting with the 15.30 departure for Plymouth (stopping all stations).

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Finally, we have another unusual visitor to Port Perran at 15.45. The M7 is on trial on the north Cornwall line and is based at Trepol Bay whose shedmaster has sent the loco down to Port Perran to collect two wagons conveying ales from the Castle Brewery at Cant Cove for various establishments in the Trepol Bay area. The public houses in the area were running very low on stocks due to the festive season and the two wagons were sent down from Cant Cove as a special delivery. Three additional vans were detached at Port Perran for the Cornish Arms.
Today's unusual activity at Port Perran is expected to be repeated over the next few days and public houses in both Port Perran and Trepol Bay have requested even more additional supplies from the Castle Brewery to meet demand.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 05:59:58 PM
At the last moment, it was decreed that all special trains will now be making a 15 minute stop at the newly re-opened Wookery station.  Several passengers had requested time to have a look at the newly restored station and the anticipated display of vintage cars.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 06:50:58 PM
John, the staff photographer at the West Briton who released the pictures above a day early was indeed reprimanded by the editor. However, he kept his job but received a verbal warning as to his future conduct.
He is currently drowning his sorrows in the Cornish Arms.
My feeling is that he will sneak out later to get a shot of the returning Southern Rover Special which took revellers up to Plymouth. The train will be making a 30 minute stop at Wookery (so that passengers can quench their thirts) and an additional 30 min stop at Port Perran.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 07:05:01 PM
Very nice pictures, Martin. A real hive of activity for the first day of the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials.  (I only hope that next Christmas I will be able to show something as good at Cant Cove!) I am sure that you have heard by now that another special train, but this time from Wolverhampton LL and Birmingham Snow Hill will be departing tomorrow morning carrying excited railway (and beer) enthusiasts to the Cornish Christmas Steam Specials. The stationmaster at Bodmin Road has been warned that the special hauled by one of the brand new Green D10XX "Westerns" (with a travelling Swindon trained fitter in attendance), will be leaving a portion there to be taken forward to Wadebridge and Penmayne. The details will be sent by telex early tomorrow but the BR WR Chocolate & Cream Mark 1 formation is said to be: BCK, SK, SO, RMB, CK -- 1st class section next to RMB, BSK, Green "Western"; with both the guard's sections positioned at the outer ends (as was BR regulations for many years for passenger safety reasons). I have all of those coaches so can show a portion (BCK, SK, SO) running through to Penmayne, via Wadebridge, with one of my WR steam locos. with the other portion RMB, CK -- 1st class section next to RMB, BSK, Green "Western" running through from Truro to Port Perran, assuming the catering crew are willing to man their coach all that way. If not the RMB will run through to Penmayne at the end of the BCK, SK, SO formation and a local crew supported by staff and supplies from the "Railway Hotel" will take over. it is rumoured that a FK may be added at Wadebridge for the Lord and Lady of Trevelver Castle and their special guests. Tomorrow, we will see! 8-) Two brand new Green "Westerns" in two days will certainly excite the trainspotters at Port Perran!

Fortunately, from earlier this month, the staff at the Castle Brewery and Headland Brewery have been working to the high summer schedule to ensure that all the local licensed premises in the area served by the special trains are now fully stocked as if it were a summer weekend, hence, the frequent appearance of the blue liveried wagon and van at Port Perran and BR brown vans and wagons at Wadebridge, Cant Cove and Penmayne with Headland Brewery paper labels in recent weeks!

Having noted the excellent restoration work carried out on the old SR non-corridor coach (as seen behind the very nice 'Black Motor'), Eastleigh Works has been asked to supply two identical sets of coaches for Weaver Cove and Wadebridge (where they will be used for the Summer Timetable 'Cant Cove Shuttle' and special local services). Due to lack of siding space at Penmayne, most coaching stock is stabled at Wadebridge. Unfortunately, due to the Christmas and New Year work's holiday, the two restored sets will not be delivered until January. The CLPG members are now studying how to convert the brake end carriage to a Push-Pull Control Trailer.

Everyone in the region is hoping that the beautiful sunny weather today at Port Perran continues for the next four days.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 07:38:16 PM
As expected, John (fortified by several pints of Ale from both Headland and Castle Breweries) has indeed sneaked outside to get a picture of the incoming "Reveller's Special" which was somewhat disappointingly hauled by a Laira Hymek. Many local spotters were expecting a rare Hall.
The train is pictured here laying over at Port Perran whilst the vast majority of its passengers enjoy one more pint (or two) in the Cornish Arms. Fred, the landlord, had employed extra bar staff for the occasion :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Specials6_zps6e27ca4b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Specials6_zps6e27ca4b.jpg.html)

The Cornish Arms looks serene from the ouside but no doubt much revellry is taking part inside :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Specials7_zps256eb71d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Specials7_zps256eb71d.jpg.html)
[Unfortunately, I am yet to get around to internal lighting for the pub!].
[The row of terraced cottages was my VERY first amateurish attempt at scratchbuilding (some 5 years ago) and will be replaced in due course].
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
PS : John (the photographer) is very much hoping to get over to Lanharrack tomorrow to see the second Green Western passing through with the special from Wolverhampton Low Level and Birmingham Snow Hill.
It is to be hoped that he doesn't return to the Cornish Arms this evening which could well result in a massive hangover tomorrow !
With luck we will get a repeat of today's sunny weather.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 08:06:53 PM
Many thanks, again, Martin, for another set of excellent photos. Lighting does make such a difference. I don't remember seeing the "Cornish Arms" in close-up before, it looks very good. Actually, the row of cottages looks good; I've seen real life buildings with window frames which were at an angle due to the building settling over the decades.

I hope John the photographer does not over indulge tonight and suffer camera shake tomorrow!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
Many thanks, again, Martin, for another set of excellent photos. Lighting does make such a difference. I don't remember seeing the "Cornish Arms" in close-up before, it looks very good. Actually, the row of cottages looks good; I've seen real life buildings with window frames which were at an angle due to the building settling over the decades.

I hope John the photographer does not over indulge tonight and suffer camera shake tomorrow!
Rumour has it that he has stumbled home early so should be fit for tomorrow. The special is due through Lanharrack at 13.10 so John should have plenty of time for a lie in before he sets off!  He needs to catch the 12.20 off Port Perran to Lanharrack (should be a 14XX and autocoach). That will give him time to walk up the hillside to get a few good pictures.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2014, 08:42:52 PM
That's good news. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on December 20, 2014, 08:33:31 AM
The first Christmas Special from Wolverhampton Low Level to Cornwall departed behind a specially prepared green D10xx Western with a train comprising  BSK, CK (1st class section next to the RMB), RMB, SO, SK, BCK.

Pathing restrictions meant the train was routed from Birmingham Snow Hill to via Hatton North Junction where it passed through Claverdon before proceeding to Bearley West Junction.

Passing under the Warwick Road bridge a couple of young spotters are keen to get a rare look at one of the new Western diesels on this line.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5053_zpscd89ce7a.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5053_zpscd89ce7a.jpg.html)

It looks like a bit of weed-killing is due on the line.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5056_zpsb79bee31.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5056_zpsb79bee31.jpg.html)

It wasn't easy to get a picture of the whole train but here's the Western with BSK, CK and RMB

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/fourwheelsteer/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5058_zpsd87b52c9.jpg) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/fourwheelsteer/media/Train%20and%20model%20rail%20stuff/100_5058_zpsd87b52c9.jpg.html)

Seasonal best wishes to one and all!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 20, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
The special has reached Cornwall with absolutely no delays.
The special divided at Bodmin Road with some carriages heading to Wadebridge and then Penmayne.
The remaining 3 carriages progressed to Truro and on to Port Perran.
Our intrepid photographer, having fully recovered from yesterday's excesses was out to photograph the train passing through Lanharrack - just 3 miles till journey's end at Port Perran.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/specials8_zpsd6e34550.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/specials8_zpsd6e34550.jpg.html)
Here the special has just passed under the farm over bridge and is about to pass through Lanharrack station where it was held for 3 minutes at signals. Note the cows just coming over the bridge into the field.

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Specials9_zps1a699dd1.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Specials9_zps1a699dd1.jpg.html)
Here the special is seen passing through Lanharrack with its busy goods yard. A Class 14 waits with a train of sand (to be used as fertiliser) bound for Truro yard.
The enthusiast on the station platform is giving the driver of the Western a friendly wave.
This is believed to be the first passage of a Western taking the Lanharrack route to Port Perran rather than the slightly shorter direct route.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on December 20, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
The Western looks great running through Lanharrak, I'm glad it made it all the way without trouble ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 20, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
Many thanks, Martin and John, for the great photos and joining in the fun. The Swindon Works' fitter seems not to have been needed. 8-) Very nice to see the train passing through Lanharrack of which I have not seen enough photos.! Very glad that John the photographer was fit enough to climb the hill to take and pictures and hold his camera steady! I wonder if he will enter the photo. competition sponsored by the Castle and Headland Breweries for the best picture taken from 19th to 24th December, 1962, of the specials?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 20, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
Many thanks, Martin and John, for the great photos and joining in the fun. The Swindon Works' fitter seems not to have been needed. 8-) Very nice to see the train passing through Lanharrack of which I have not seen enough photos.! Very glad that John the photographer was fit enough to climb the hill to take and pictures and hold his camera steady! I wonder if he will enter the photo. competition sponsored by the Castle and Headland Breweries for the best picture taken from 19th to 24th December, 1962, of the specials?
I'm sure he will.
He's feeling much better today.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 22, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
For the first part of a Christmas story about Sylvia and one of the 'Santa Specials' from Wadebridge, via Weaver Cove, to Trepol Bay, please, see: A Cant Cove (well, Weaver Cove) Christmas Story, on the Weaver Cove thread. I hope you like it; Sylvia and the Chelsea Girls will never forget that day, nor will the Wadebridge crew of the pannier tank, not to mention its crowded B Set of passengers and guard, Father Christmas, and one small boy from Weaver Cove!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 28, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
Back from a thoroughly enjoyable Christmas and Birthday break in Swanage where we had a great time (all arranged as a surprise by Mrs PP).
Lots of catching up to do on the forum and back to modelling where I'm working on more scenic areas of Trepol Bay and making a start on painting some wagons in Headland Brewery Livery ( a new experience for me).

Hope everyone had a good Christmas break.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 28, 2014, 04:12:45 PM
Delighted you're both safely back and had a good time in Swanage. Did you see a T9 or a Bulleid Light Pacific? Looking forward to seeing the updates on Trepol Bay and the Headland Brewery stock in due course.

Have arrived back from eastern Slovakia at Brno for a couple of days before returning to Prague.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 28, 2014, 04:27:46 PM
Delighted you're both safely back and had a good time in Swanage. Did you see a T9 or a Bulleid Light Pacific? Looking forward to seeing the updates on Trepol Bay and the Headland Brewery stock in due course.

Have arrived back from eastern Slovakia at Brno for a couple of days before returning to Prague.
No ....the T9 is here at Bodmin. The only loco in steam was the M7 (see my thread under Real Railways). Saw a rebuilt and unrebuilt BB outside the station plus the U.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Been busy constructing the Metcalfe loco shed.
It's now in place (though not yet fixed) at the end of Trepol Bay yard.
It does look a bit too pristine methinks so may weather it a bit.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Shed1_zps69076e8c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Shed1_zps69076e8c.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Shed2_zps95c302d6.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Shed2_zps95c302d6.jpg.html)
However, once it sits in the scenery (yet to be built) it should look OK. Water tower is under construction as well so that will add to the feel.
I've also been adding some undulating scenery which looks messy at the moment but will be OK when painted and scatter material added (possibly tomorrow).
That screw in the track by the way is only a temporary measure !
The idea is to blend the whole thing in with the bridge.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
Also, the painters at the Headland Brewery maintenance shed which is located at Trepol Bay harbour have unveiled the first painted example of a box van in Headland Brewery Livery (which advertises their Triple Spot Ale).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Shed3_zps255b3c5e.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Shed3_zps255b3c5e.jpg.html)
It needs a little bit of practise to get the three gold spots right (maybe I'll make a small template ?)).
Hopefully, practise will make perfect !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 30, 2014, 09:54:13 PM
I think a template might be very helpful, Martin. Painting three tiny gold spots is NOT an easy task. Just painting axleboxes on my Peco long wheelbase wagons gloss yellow was difficult enough and required some 'touching up' afterwards.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 30, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
I think a template might be very helpful, Martin. Painting three tiny gold spots is NOT an easy task. Just painting axleboxes on my Peco long wheelbase wagons gloss yellow was difficult enough and required some 'touching up' afterwards.
Will give that a try over the next few days .
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 31, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
With weathering I think the loco. shed will look very good.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2015, 05:31:24 PM
A lot of work has taken place today but no photos just yet as I had to realign the track very slightly and it's all being weighted down to stick it in place so it's all a bit unsightly for a bit.
I've completed a couple more scratch built warehouse type buildings adjacent to the viaduct and added a loading platform and started on some greenery. I've also painted the first section of retaining wall which links the harbour level to station level.
I have the ballasting around the viaduct to do (both harbour and main lines) in the next day or so. 
I have then nearly finished the area immediately around the viaduct. I can then move on to the shed area and then Trepol Bay station.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chinahand on January 01, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
Nice work PP. Trepol Bay is coming on in leaps and bounds now and it's great to see all of the new additions.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Excellent news, Martin. I look forward to the photos. in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 02, 2015, 04:49:34 PM
I have done quite a bit of work on Trepol Bay over the last day or so. 
Picture below :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Bridge98_zps86d3b774.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Bridge98_zps86d3b774.jpg.html)
The lighting is very awkward so photo isn't great and the area is unfinished but I have added various bits.
I have added a new workshop and loading platform to the left of the brakevan and open wagon. The idea is to create a loading facility for a company yet to be decided on. I have very deliberately made the line between the two workshops tight.
The very dark surface to the right of the two vans is only a basecoat so will be lightened later.
I've also added some greenery which looks a bit rough at the moment but will be tidied somewhat. This is probably to be the only bit of greenery on Trepol Bay.
I've also added a retaining wall (picture to follow later) and placed the Metcalfe Loco shed in place. I do think,however, that it is slightly over sized but I think I can live with that. I've also placed (roughly) the ratio water tower which may move a bit later.
Ballasting to start tomorrow possibly which should start to bring it all together.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 02, 2015, 05:05:29 PM
I think this photo shows things a bit better :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Bridge99_zps67a29791.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Bridge99_zps67a29791.jpg.html)
You can now see the retaining wall (first section). I can't decide whether the fence which will sit atop the retaining wall will be rusted brown or Southern green.
I've also added a very small storage hut at the very end of the left hand road past the bridge.
I also can't decide whether to leave the grounded wagon body where it is or to locate it elsewhere (needs weathering too).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on January 02, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
Great work and a nice eye for detail, Martin :thumbsup:
If the roof isn't fixed on the grounded coach before it rains it could get weathered inside, too :worried:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 02, 2015, 06:20:39 PM
Great work and a nice eye for detail, Martin :thumbsup:
If the roof isn't fixed on the grounded coach before it rains it could get weathered inside, too :worried:
Very well spotted.   It will be fixed drekly.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 02, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
It's looking better and better, Martin. I would make the fence which will sit atop the retaining wall rusted brown as it would be unlikely to be painted Southern green unless it was part of the passenger station.
Once you have added more detail, I think you will find the final resting place for the grounded wagon body (yes, it does need weathering, SR CCTS tended to be far more a dirty brown than a nice clean green). I don't think the loco shed is too over-sized; you can always (should) raise the ground around it to sleeper height. The water tower looks good. Please, don't forget also the Castle Estate's office and grounded van body for additional storage, but they can be located anywhere with easy access.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 02, 2015, 09:19:14 PM
It's looking better and better, Martin. I would make the fence which will sit atop the retaining wall rusted brown as it would be unlikely to be painted Southern green unless it was part of the passenger station.
Once you have added more detail, I think you will find the final resting place for the grounded wagon body (yes, it does need weathering, SR CCTS tended to be far more a dirty brown than a nice clean green). I don't think the loco shed is too over-sized; you can always (should) raise the ground around it to sleeper height. The water tower looks good. Please, don't forget also the Castle Estate's office and grounded van body for additional storage, but they can be located anywhere with easy access.
No worries. The Castle Estate Office and van body for storage will be accommodated in the actual port area which will (unfortunately)  be the last area I tackle. The brake van body/café will be similarly located.  I hope to have all three located somewhere near to what will be the harbourmasters office which is to be the focal point of the harbour.
Yes, I think that I will raise the ground around the shed a bit. I think that at the moment it just looks isolated at the top of the layout so looks a bit too big. Once everything else is in place I'm sure it will blend in better.
The fence will actually extend all the way from the station so green would be appropriate.
I also have the Metcalfe card pill boxes to locate somewhere !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 02, 2015, 09:26:53 PM
The pill boxes need to be located where they will have the best field of fire over the area most likely to be where the attackers would be coming from. I'm also planning to have at least one pillbox at Cant Cove overlooking the beach but a plastic preformed one as I have seen them on other North Cornwall layouts.

Flat tidying up commenced today. (I found a tiny packet of plastic sacks for wagon and lorry loads!) I will be more tidying up on Monday. This weekend I will start scanning. Once everything is tidy I can begin painting wagons and vans, again! My two SR lamp huts have arrived safely. They are TINY. I will paint them SR cream with SR Green doors. Fixing the doors in place will be like micro surgery!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 02, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
Indeed those huts are small. I dropped a door onto a green carpet. Took me ages to find it !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
Ballasting !!!!!!!
Great fun but I'm only doing a smallish section today.
Must be careful not to sneeze !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
I wish you success with that, Martin. Are you using Cornish fine sand as ballast?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
I'm using a combination of Woodland Scenics fine ballast in the following colours - Grey Blend, Buff and dark grey along with a tiny bit of dark earth (Woodland Scenics) and mixed with a small amount of sand from Portreath beach. I've found that, to my eyes, I get a fairly realistic colour which doesn't look too dark or too light and also, which is very important to me, it doesn't look too pristine.
Back aching job - but now I'm doing what I do best - waiting for it all to dry !
Hopefully it will look OK in a few hours or so.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 01:59:29 PM
Thanks, Martin. Judging from colour photos., (not very reliable with early colour films), the ballast from the SR quarry at Meldon was a shade of medium brown more than grey so I think your combination should be just right and is one I will (eventually) try, too.

I look forward to the photos. in due course. The map was nearly ready but now I have to locate Jon's new china / ball clay branch! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
Just letting the ballast dry for 24 hours or so.  I mustn't be impatient so no trains running to Trepol Bay today !
I have now moved on to building the Metcalfe Low Relief shop fronts (all 6 of them). They are to sit in a street running behind the loco shed and to the right of the viaduct. I will imagine that they are an early 1960s addition to the area and will be the start of the scenic section leading along from  the station.  This will be the only actual street on the Trepol Bay layout. It will probably also include a couple of scratch built cottages and the all important pub.  Name to come later.
I'd made a set of these Metcalfe shops for my Port Perran layout about 4 years ago and I'd forgotten just how fiddly they are. I think they are one of the first of the Metcalfe range and as such are not quite as advanced as current models.  I've only done 2 this afternoon (and I haven't completely finished those) !  However they do look pretty good so it's very much worth my taking time.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
Take it slowly; I'm sure that the results will be worth it, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 05:05:12 PM
I'm planning two maps, now; one of the area around Wadebridge and one of the railways in Cornwall. I'm thinking that the map of the Camet Trail www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/route/camel-trail (http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/route/camel-trail) as it shows contours and level routes (for cycles, of course) is a good guide for the the area around Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 08:36:14 PM
Here is the second, revised draft of the alternative North Cornwall Railway network featuring Cant Cove, Fox Hole Halt, Penmayne, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove as well as the North Cornwall Extension Railway from Wadebridge to Newquay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MAP-REVISEDNorthCornwall_zps8c76d8c9.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MAP-REVISEDNorthCornwall_zps8c76d8c9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
Here is the first draft of the alternative North Cornwall Railway network featuring Cant Cove, Fox Hole Halt, Penmayne, Trepol Bay, and Weaver Cove as well as the North Cornwall Extension Railway from Wadebridge to Newquay:

([url]http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY-MAP-REVISEDNorthCornwall_zpsb092cb69.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY-MAP-REVISEDNorthCornwall_zpsb092cb69.jpg.html[/url])

Looks very good to me.  Thanks for your efforts Chris.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 09:25:45 PM
That's an excellent map Chris and brings it all to life.
I was thinking that maybe there could be a chord which would allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the Chacewater route) without trains having to reverse or run round at Newquay station. That would, of course, be very helpful in terms of freight traffic and allow trains from Port Perran to reach the Wadebridge area without difficulty.   It is important for Castle Ales to reach the Cornish arms easily !!!! :beers:
Perhaps it could be named called Quintrell Downs  South Junction or something similar ?
What do you think ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 04, 2015, 09:31:55 PM
Thanks, Martin. Yes, a chord which would allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the Chacewater route) makes a great deal of sense as the NCER line to Truro will not be built. Quintrell Downs North and South Junctions, then. I'll add them, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 04, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
Thanks, Martin. Yes, a chord which would allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the Chacewater route) makes a great deal of sense as the NCER line to Truro will not be built. Quintrell Downs North and South Junctions, then. I'll add them, tomorrow.
Thanks Chris.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 05, 2015, 04:19:42 PM
I have very nearly finished the Metcalfe row of low relief shop fronts for Trepol Bay.
I've still got to get the watercolour pencils out and go over the white edges where the card is bent. Job for later.
I've also got to construct the pavement and road but will probably wait until the rest of the row is completed. I need to scratchbuild a couple of old cottages and a pub (though it may end up being a hotel/pub) to complete the road leading up to the stration approach.  Station not built yet but I'm working towards it !
The shops represent a new addition to the road constructed in 1961 to replace an old foundry which had lain disused for 20 years.
So....buildings only roughly placed on the layout at the moment but it gives an idea of where I'm going :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Shops_zpsf5ab8afb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Shops_zpsf5ab8afb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 05, 2015, 04:30:01 PM
They look very good, Martin. (Except isn't the first dormer window on the roof at a slight slant?) Otherwise, a very good backscene. The bus doesn't look too happy though about the state of the road! 8-) I think a small hotel with bar and lounge on the ground floor would be an excellent idea. It could be the Headland Brewery's showpiece in town. A couple of older, lower roofline buildings from the eighteenth century would add definitely character.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 05, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
Thanks, Martin. Yes, a chord which would allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the Chacewater route) makes a great deal of sense as the NCER line to Truro will not be built. Quintrell Downs North and South Junctions, then. I'll add them, tomorrow.
Thanks Chris.

Done, Martin. If you scroll back to the previous page, you'll see the corrected map.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 05, 2015, 07:00:43 PM
"As part of the revised NCER, the LSWR paid for the construction of a chord from Quintrell Downs South Junction to Quintrell Downs North Junction, outside Newquay, to allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the GWR’s Chacewater route) without trains having to reverse or run round at Newquay station. This was, of course, very helpful for freight but also passenger traffic as it allowed trains from the growing coastal resort of Port Perran to run through to the Wadebridge area, and vice versa."
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Post by: port perran on January 05, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
"As part of the revised NCER, the LSWR paid for the construction of a chord from Quintrell Downs South Junction to Quintrell Downs North Junction, outside Newquay, to allow through trains from Wadebridge to Truro (via the GWR’s Chacewater route) without trains having to reverse or run round at Newquay station. This was, of course, very helpful for freight but also passenger traffic as it allowed trains from the growing coastal resort of Port Perran to run through to the Wadebridge area, and vice versa."
That's much better.
Thanks Chris.
 Trains can now run easily from Port Perran, Trepol Bay, Weaver Vove, Cant Cove and Penmayne easily. And of course reach wadebridge, Truro and Newquay from all destinations.
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Post by: jd on January 05, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Fantastic. Looking good Mr PP, the bus on the other hand looks a bit pissed lol joking a side great work.
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Post by: port perran on January 05, 2015, 09:42:45 PM
Fantic news. Looking good Mr PP, the bus on the other hand looks a bit pissed lol joking a side great work.
No doubt the Cornwall County Council road gang will be out later to sort out the road !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2015, 04:24:13 PM
No progress on Trepol Bay at all today due to spending "quality time" completing my Tax Return.
Great Fun.....enough to make me :'(
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Post by: Mrs Port Perran on January 09, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
No progress on Trepol Bay at all today due to spending "quality time" completing my Tax Return.
Great Fun.....enough to make me :'(

I know what you mean but doesn't it feel good when you've sent it off?  Yay!  :)

Congrats.  You can enjoy your weekend now!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2015, 08:10:56 PM
In a surprise move the wagon painters at Headland Brewery have revised the livery of their wagon fleet to advertise their new Sumer ale - Summer Lightning (ABV - 4.2%).
The first wagon (in trial livery which represents both Summer Lightning and the Cornish colours of gold and black) is seen in trial undercoat. The M7 (on trial at Trepol Bay) has hauled the wagon out of the paint shed for a photo session to which the local press were invited. A first tasting session of the Summer Lightning Ale will be staged this evening in the Station Hotel at Trepol Bay.
In the background can be seen two sulphate wagons awaiting transfer to Cant Cove.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagonHeadland_zps01fa18ca.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagonHeadland_zps01fa18ca.jpg.html)

(NB This is an old wagon used for trial purposes only- the finished examples - some of which will be transferred to Cant Cove - will (hopefully) be finished to a higher standard.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 09, 2015, 08:25:20 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for another very nice picture. I look forward to seeing the first van in the new Headland Brewery livery; the Cornish colours of gold and black will look very good, I'm sure.

On behalf of the Castle Estates, I should explain that the two sulphate wagons have been purchased for cleaning, repainting, and use for transporting rocks from the Estates's Quarry for finishing at Port Perran. (The sulphate loads are, I'm assured removable.) The wagons are for 'through' traffic. These old GF bogie wagons tend to go for high prices but if I (or someone else) can buy any more for a reasonable price, loads of finished rocks from the Castle Estates' quarry can be sent, by rail, from Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 11, 2015, 07:00:24 PM
I have been working on a scratch built half relief hotel for Trepol Bay.  I made an attempt yesterday but I was very unhappy with it (it looked like a giant warehouse with windows!). So after sleeping on it, I decided to scrap it and start again.  A wasted afternoon but hey !
Here is a picture of the constituent parts so far :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/hotel1_zpsaf7bf7a3.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/hotel1_zpsaf7bf7a3.jpg.html)
As you can see, I have the front and the two sides. The hotel will be at an angle to the backboard (to accommodate a road) so one side is wider than the other.
There will be a small portico at the front and I have the detailing to  namely, brick lintels, windowsills, door surround, drainpipes etc and , of course, the roof.
Hopefully, I can finish it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 11, 2015, 07:09:13 PM
Looking very good, Martin, and the sides seem to be nicely weathered already. I want to ad a Georgian style portico to Cant Cove's "Tramway Inn" so look forward to seeing how you tackle this. If you need any gutters and / or drainpipes, I have plenty of Ratio and Kestel ones already painted matt black. Were there flower boxes on buildings in the 1960s? The nameboard and sign will really make it look complete. Maybe a Headland Brewery wall plaque like the stylised castle tower porcelain West Country Breweries one? Or a simple oblong with a diagonal division between black and gold?
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Post by: wookie on January 11, 2015, 07:37:40 PM
So after sleeping on it, I decided to scrap it and start again. 

Well, if you slept on it I guess you will have to rebuild it, cos it will be all squashed and crinkly  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 11, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
So after sleeping on it, I decided to scrap it and start again. 

Well, if you slept on it I guess you will have to rebuild it, cos it will be all squashed and crinkly  :smiley-laughing:
Very good   :claphappy: :claphappy:
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Post by: Bob Wild on January 11, 2015, 10:50:17 PM
it will be all squashed and crinkly  :smiley-laughing:

Laughs out loud.
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Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 04:22:32 PM
A whole batch of wagon painting has been completed in the Trepol Bay and Port Perran areas over the last few weeks and several have been released for photographing by the local press :
First we have a batch of vans and open wagons painted in the black & gold colours of the Headland Brewery at Trepol Bay. The gold flash represents the brewery's new summer ale - Summer Lightning :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagons100_zps87526284.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagons100_zps87526284.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagons103_zps1690486c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagons103_zps1690486c.jpg.html)
Now we have the Terracotta Livery of James & Son Ltd, Granite Merchants from Port Perran :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagons101_zps5bca6ad9.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagons101_zps5bca6ad9.jpg.html)
Finally we have a couple of vans in the dark green livery of Messrs Prisk & Jones (Vegetable Wholesalers) from Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/wagons102_zpse740f83b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/wagons102_zpse740f83b.jpg.html)
Sorry for the poor photos - light is going fast here.
[My wagon painting is not up to the standard of Chris (in Prague) but hopefully they are OK. I'm in two minds about weathering slightly ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 04:29:17 PM
I have been very busy over the last three days or so making a scratch built low relief hotel for Trepol Bay.
My first attempt (which wasted half a day) looked like a giant warehouse with tiny windows so it bit the dust !
This is my second effort with which I am reasonably pleased :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/hotel2_zps6822a02a.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/hotel2_zps6822a02a.jpg.html)
It is merely "plonked" in position for now and the roof is only balanced on and won't be firmly fixed until everything is fully dried.
There is still a bit of detailing to do and it will look better (I think) when it's properly in place and has a backboard behind it (not made yet).
I also plan to make a small low relief cottage to go to the right of the hotel. The road in front will be properly made up and a low wall constructed between the road and railway. 
Ballasting hasn't reached this far yet.
After much head scratching, I finally decided on Station Hotel as a name as it is so close to the railway !  Beers etc are supplied to the Headland Brewery.
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Post by: Newportnobby on January 12, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
Very colourful trucks, and the Station Hotel looks very inviting, Martin :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
Hi Martin, thanks for the photos. Your wagons and vans look fine. (I can see some of my donors as they have the bufferbeams and buffers ready-painted). I think light weathering is more noticeable on lighter coloured wagons and vans. I'm not sure that it is necessary for darker coloured ones. However, for transfers, it is best to leave the surfaces gloss and weather afterwards. I really must start designing transfers for all our wagons and vans so that I can fill up at least one sheet, preferably, two. I can also send you some more pre-painted donor wagons and vans for 'twins' for through running.

I think your "Station Hotel" looks very good; it was well worth persevering. I presume that the roof will be sloping once the sections have glued? (A flat roof, in Cornwall, would be a maintenance nightmare!) If my bid is successful, you'll have a set of tables, chairs and umbrellas for the Harbour Cafe and, maybe, one table, two chairs and an umbrella in black and gold outside the hotel for the railway enthusiasts to enjoy a summer beer watching the trains? Maybe a low stone wall with a metal fence on top across the street so a snot to block the view?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
Aaaaagh.
Power cut here in our village.
Just checked and expected repair time is 7.30pm.
Tea was just started so thats delayed!
Very dark
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
Time to get the candles out (but be careful!).
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Post by: austinbob on January 12, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
Time to get the candles out (but be careful!).

and.. the backup batteries for the layout!
 :hmmm:
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Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Hi Martin, thanks for the photos. Your wagons and vans look fine. (I can see some of my donors as they have the bufferbeams and buffers ready-painted). I think light weathering is more noticeable on lighter coloured wagons and vans. I'm not sure that it is necessary for darker coloured ones. However, for transfers, it is best to leave the surfaces gloss and weather afterwards. I really must start designing transfers for all our wagons and vans so that I can fill up at least one sheet, preferably, two. I can also send you some more pre-painted donor wagons and vans for 'twins' for through running.

I think your "Station Hotel" looks very good; it was well worth persevering. I presume that the roof will be sloping once the sections have glued? (A flat roof, in Cornwall, would be a maintenance nightmare!) If my bid is successful, you'll have a set of tables, chairs and umbrellas for the Harbour Cafe and, maybe, one table, two chairs and an umbrella in black and gold outside the hotel for the railway enthusiasts to enjoy a summer beer watching the trains? Maybe a low stone wall with a metal fence on top across the street so a snot to block the view?
Yes, the roof will be sloping. And......electricity back on - hhoray !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 06:58:03 PM
After the power cut, First trains  for 3 or 4 weeks have run this evening into Trepol Bay from Port Perran. And I have managed to test all tracks. All OK except my two car dmu derails on a slight bend under the bridge. It's temporary track there for a while so I can probably sort that fairly easily.  Funny though everything else is fine.
Also tested out the incline down to the harbour. Tested all my tanks and 08 and Class 22 and 35. All work fine and even a pannier (Dapol) can get up with 5 loaded granite trucks and a brakevan. However, the M7 and 14XX are a different story. The M7 can get up with one van whilst the 14XX (unsurprisingly) can't even get itself up there!
I envisage the harbour being used only by diesels of classes 04/08/22 and 35 (occasionally) and steam locos such as panniers (inc 94XX), GW praries, M7 (on light work) and SR Black Motor.
Other locos will be deemed too heavy for the harbour. The incline is subject to a 5mph speed limit.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
I hope you can fix the track for the DMU to run, Martin. Your loco. list, (apart from the Hymek), sounds a realistic one for a harbour branch. I did not know that the M7 was as bad as the 14XX; very disappointing (not that I'll ever buy one). If my 14XX manages two autocoaches plus a van or two, on the level, I'll be happy! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 12, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
I hope you can fix the track for the DMU to run, Martin. Your loco. list, (apart from the Hymek), sounds a realistic one for a harbour branch. I did not know that the M7 was as bad as the 14XX; very disappointing (not that I'll ever buy one). If my 14XX manages two autocoaches plus a van or two, on the level, I'll be happy! 8-)
I think a 14XX plus two autocoaches and two vans is optimistic I'm afraid. Mine manages one autocoach and a van OK (on the level) but any more is a problem I'm afraid.
The M7 isn't too bad on the flat but on the incline it's a bit feeble !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
Oh, dear; I was hoping it would at least manage two autocoaches. 8-( When it, eventually (it's not a priority loco.) goes for DCC fitting, I'll ask Douglas if he can do anything to improve its pulling power?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 20, 2015, 08:21:04 AM
Finally getting around to starting on the station area at Trepol Bay.
Made the first platform section last evening having carried out clearance tests with the trusty outside framed 08.  May be able to get the rest completed this week.
It's easier than Port Perran as this time I have no curved platforms to deal with.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 20, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Good news, Martin. I look forward to the photos., in due course. I must complete the posters and billboards for you.
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Post by: port perran on January 23, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
The basic platform shape is now completed for Trepol Bay. Please bear in mind that the platforms are just placed at the moment and not fixed down so any differences in height will disappear.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform_zps8c2f3710.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform_zps8c2f3710.jpg.html)
As you can (hopefully) see , sorry it's a poor quality photo due to fading light, Trepol Bay station is essentially a single through line (the one the T9 and coaches are standing on).
We also have a single coach length bay platform for local trains (with the SR carriage waiting),
There is a run round loop where the M7 is and a carriage siding where the bubblecar is sitting.
The platform buildings will be between the lorry and the single coach (the lorry is backed up to a loading bay) and also low relied buildings at the bottom edge.
The main running line will disappear into a tunnel cut into what will essentially be  a rock face.
The wagons on the left are at the lower (harbour) level.
I am experimenting now with painting some black working station lights into SR green. I need to get them in and wired next before I fix the platforms down.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 23, 2015, 04:30:20 PM
Very nice work, Martin. I can see the similarity to Bude (although there the bay had two tracks, I think). I'm also planning to use some (regretfully over scale size) Chinese black working station lights painted into BR SR green but am afraid that the totem station name signs will look too small on them).

However, I work much slower so won't be building platforms until the end of March / early April which gives me two months to order and paint them ready for installation!
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Post by: Newportnobby on January 23, 2015, 08:17:11 PM
Good to see the 'business' section coming along, Martin :thumbsup:
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Post by: wookie on January 24, 2015, 12:16:38 PM
That's all looking very promising Martin
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2015, 12:19:44 PM
I can't help thinking that the point in front of the a single coach length bay platform for local trains, (with the SR carriage), might benefit from being moved back a bit to allow a loco. to leave the coach by either line.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 24, 2015, 07:28:30 PM
Thanks for the idea Chrisand I take your point. I did consider that. However, I want the space for buildings (you will see why later).  My plan is based (loosely) on current (and I think historic) practise at Bodmin General where the train (in this case possibly 2 carriages) comes into the station. Once the passengers have disembarked the train engine reverses the carriages back, runs around and then reverses back onto the carriages pushing them back into the platform. I also plan to use the ex GW railcar on services into the bay platform.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2015, 07:53:20 PM
You're right about the method of operating Bodmin General (I think there was enough room for the loco. at Bodmin North to uncouple from the train and run round it using the points connecting to the adjacent line which formed a loop) with a loco. and two carriages, Martin. I had not thought of operating the bay platform like that but it should work fine and makes better use of the space.

Bodmin North was operated by an O2, later a GWR 0-6-0PT, then an Ivatt 2-6-2T with a Maunsell twin-set and Bodmin General by a 45XX or 4575 and a B-Set. Both services were dieselised with a D63XX before being replaced with a BR diesel railcar / rail bus. So, you have plenty of alternatives.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: chrispearce on January 25, 2015, 01:50:28 AM
Looking very nice. Has a great atmosphere already. Just returned from visiting my Mother who lives in Chacewater. Had many sunny/rainy/haily/windy runs out around St Day and Carharrack - very nice. What weather down there. Cornwall is great when it is sunny all the time but I also love it when it is wild. One day I intend to move down. All I have to do is save the pennies.

Keep up the good work!!!!
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Post by: Bealman on January 25, 2015, 02:08:59 AM
Coming along nicely.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on January 25, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Looking very nice. Has a great atmosphere already. Just returned from visiting my Mother who lives in Chacewater. Had many sunny/rainy/haily/windy runs out around St Day and Carharrack - very nice. What weather down there. Cornwall is great when it is sunny all the time but I also love it when it is wild. One day I intend to move down. All I have to do is save the pennies.
Ah yes, Cornwall is beautiful in sunny weather but is also great when it's wild and stormy.
Next time you're in Chacewater call us up.

Keep up the good work!!!!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Recently, Sylvia of Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove, met an up-and-coming graphic designer at a party in London who was looking for work examples to put in his portfolio. Sylvia introduced him to the Commercial Director of the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, who explained that they had high hopes for their new Summer Lightning ale and needed an eye-catching design for the brand. Not only would they give the designer the work so he could have it in his portfolio with a testimonial letter but they would deliver a cask of Summer Lightning every month of the summer!

Here is the design (greatly oversize):
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20AD%20-%20Summer%20Lightning-ad%20-%20LARGE_zpsstb0urjn.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20AD%20-%20Summer%20Lightning-ad%20-%20LARGE_zpsstb0urjn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 25, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
Great stuff Chris.
  Thank you.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2015, 06:57:45 PM
Great stuff Chris.
  Thank you.

My great pleasure, Martin. It was a very enjoyable 'task'.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Here's the 2MM Scale billboards and vansides, so far for Trepol Bay and Cant Cove:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Trepol%20Bay%20N%20Scale%20billboards%20AA%20RAC%20plaques%20Van%20Sides_zpsgifvpraq.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Trepol%20Bay%20N%20Scale%20billboards%20AA%20RAC%20plaques%20Van%20Sides_zpsgifvpraq.jpg.html)

If anyone else want some of the billboards for their layout, please, let me know.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 26, 2015, 08:52:37 AM
I do know (and have enjoyed on draught and in bottle -- available in Prague) the 'original' "Summer Lightning"; however, back in the 1960s, the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, Cornwall, was the first to brew a special light, crisp golden ale with that name. 8-) It is rumoured that the Head Brewer of the excellent Hopback Brewery remembers his father enjoying the Headland Brewery's excellent ales on a summer holiday. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 26, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
I do know (and have enjoyed on draught and in bottle -- available in Prague) the 'original' "Summer Lightning"; however, back in the 1960s, the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, Cornwall, was the first to brew a special light, crisp golden ale with that name. 8-) It is rumoured that the Head Brewer of the excellent Hopback Brewery remembers his father enjoying the Headland Brewery's excellent ales on a summer holiday. 8-)
I trust that the Head Brewer travelled down by train in the 1960s.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 26, 2015, 01:36:44 PM
I do know (and have enjoyed on draught and in bottle -- available in Prague) the 'original' "Summer Lightning"; however, back in the 1960s, the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, Cornwall, was the first to brew a special light, crisp golden ale with that name. 8-) It is rumoured that the Head Brewer of the excellent Hopback Brewery remembers his father enjoying the Headland Brewery's excellent ales on a summer holiday. 8-)
I trust that the Head Brewer travelled down by train in the 1960s.

I hope so, too, Martin, but did the family travel from Waterloo or Paddington? 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 26, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
I do know (and have enjoyed on draught and in bottle -- available in Prague) the 'original' "Summer Lightning"; however, back in the 1960s, the Headland Brewery, Trepol Bay, Cornwall, was the first to brew a special light, crisp golden ale with that name. 8-) It is rumoured that the Head Brewer of the excellent Hopback Brewery remembers his father enjoying the Headland Brewery's excellent ales on a summer holiday. 8-)
I trust that the Head Brewer travelled down by train in the 1960s.
Interestingly they travelled from Paddington but due to meeting relatives at Exeter, they then travelled up to Trepol Bay by the old LSWR route because of meeting additional relatives at Halwill Junction (they had travelled down from Bude). There was a big family get together at the Station Hotel in Trepol Bay.

I hope so, too, Martin, but did the family travel from Waterloo or Paddington? 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 26, 2015, 04:50:34 PM
Completed quite a lot of work on Trepol Bay station today.
Working platform lamps now painted LSWR green (5 sets) and all ready for wiring under the platforms. Final connection is months away but I needed to get the preparatory work done prior to sticking the platforms down.  Lamps still to be finally glued down to the platforms.  Station name boards also in place.
I've constructed the Peco country station kit (brick built) and weathered it down.  Almost finished. This will be one of the station buildings at Trepol Bay. The other (and slightly larger) station building (stone built) will be low relief but completely scratch built.  Again, I've made provision for internal lighting inside the Peco building.
It is worth remembering at this stage that Trepol Bay will be a mix of ex GWR (old-pre 1880) and newer LSWR buildings.
Next job later this week is to thread all the wiring through under the platforms then firmly glue them down. I can then start adding the buildings and other station furniture.
Pictures will follow in due course but it's all a bit messy at the moment!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 30, 2015, 07:46:47 AM
Hoping to get quite a lot of scenic work done over the next four days.
With any luck I'll get Trepol Bay station platforms in place today - if all goes to plan.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 30, 2015, 08:11:30 AM
I look forward to seeing the pictures and reading your construction tips, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on January 30, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
Have been working on Trepol Bay station platforms this afternoon :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform1_zps47b62df5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform1_zps47b62df5.jpg.html)
So......that's the start !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform2_zps33811f96.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform2_zps33811f96.jpg.html)
And this is where I am now. The platforms are firmly fixed down and the lights (which are wired under the platforms but not to the main supply yet- but I have tested them) lightly pushed into place.
The lights are a bit over scale but I can live with that.
Things have to be tidied up now (eg platform joins). The T9 is on what will be the through line and the Bubblecar is in the bay. Buildings are Peco station kit, Peco lineside hut and Farish platform shelter (still to be detailed in SR green).
Eventually the platform will be busied up with people, luggage, mailbags, parcels, trolleys, etc.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform4_zpsd1a13e78.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform4_zpsd1a13e78.jpg.html)
More of an overview.  The granite wagons are o the lower harbour level. I've yet to decide if the grounded van body will stay where it is. The grounded brakevan body (supplied by Chris in Prague) will form part of a café area and may move position slightly.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform3_zps08b26d24.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform3_zps08b26d24.jpg.html)
This shows the position of the station in relation to the harbour (just for reference)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/platform5_zps4b850512.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/platform5_zps4b850512.jpg.html)
And another overall view. The M7 and carriage are in what will be a carriage siding.
I hope to continue painting the retaining wall between station and harbour tomorrow.
The round circle will be a wagon turntable. The whole harbour area will be populated with various harbour workshops etc.
There will be some low relief buildings behind the M7 and, of course, the backscene will complete things eventually.
I also need to complete ballasting into the station itself now that the platforms are in place.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 30, 2015, 06:02:25 PM
Very nice work, Martin. Those are the Chinese lamps that I'm also planning to use (despite being over-sized) and, again, like you will, first, paint them SR Green.
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Post by: wookie on January 30, 2015, 06:51:53 PM
It's all looking very good mate
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Post by: port perran on January 30, 2015, 08:27:53 PM
Had a running session this evening but had to stick to Port Perran as I painted the sides of some of the track on Trepol Bay today.
Been running some of my favourite loco/train combinations :
Class 35 on a parcels train
Class 52 on a three coach portion of a chocolate & cream (Mk 1) train from Paddington to Truro.
Class 22 on a PW/Engineers train
Manor on a broccoli special
Pannier on local goods
T9 on a 2 coach train of SR stock from (supposedly) Wadebridge
2 car dmu
GW prarie on a local suburban train.

I must get around to some video one of these days.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 30, 2015, 08:38:30 PM
Sounds a very nice selection of trains, Martin. I hope, next week, to at least get the front along the beach covered in tile grouting. After that the baseboard will have to be put away. I also plan to start work on the curving down platform though as tracklaying cannot commence without that in place.
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Post by: port perran on January 31, 2015, 12:17:54 PM
Remaining track in the station area ballasted this morning.  Tedious job !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 31, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
But well worth the effort, Martin, I'm sure. Looking forward to the photos.
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Post by: Hailstone on January 31, 2015, 12:35:39 PM
Lucky you! when I have got Tremierten into shape I have to ballast this lot!(not the fiddle yard though)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_709.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=709)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/thumb_708.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=708)

I wonder I Chris can think up some Cornish names for these two as well?

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 31, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
Good afternoon Alex, do you mean Cornish names for two stations or for one station and the brewery? Which part of Cornwall is your layout set? North Cornwall is pretty full now and is LSWR territory anyway but there is some room in West Cornwall in the Newquay - Truro area. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 31, 2015, 04:29:56 PM
Good afternoon Alex, do you mean Cornish names for two stations or for one station and the brewery? Which part of Cornwall is your layout set? North Cornwall is pretty full now and is LSWR territory anyway but there is some room in West Cornwall in the Newquay - Truro area. 8-)
The backboard in the top layout looks very like the area around Redruth/Camborne and , of course, the Redruth Brewery (sadly now closed and derelict) is in the area.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 31, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
I did not know that Devenish had ceased brewing. I remember their ales with affection in the 1970s. There were mineral lines in the Redruth area, including a line from Redruth to Devoran. Maybe, part of that could be the prototype?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 31, 2015, 04:51:12 PM
http://boakandbailey.com/2013/11/newquay-steam-cornwalls-own-beer/ (http://boakandbailey.com/2013/11/newquay-steam-cornwalls-own-beer/)

The sad saga of the Redruth Brewery. By the way, Cornish Steam beer is brewed in the Czech Republic with an early steam loco. on the label!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 31, 2015, 04:59:07 PM
I did not know that Devenish had ceased brewing. I remember their ales with affection in the 1970s. There were mineral lines in the Redruth area, including a line from Redruth to Devoran. Maybe, part of that could be the prototype?
That mineral line from Redruth to Devoran ran literally 25ft from our kitchen window (now a lane).
It would be great to see one of the 3 steam locos used on the line (Smelter, Miner or Spitfire) steaming past our window.  There is an old iron footbridge (now restored) which formerly spanned the line literally 100 yards along the lane.
The line sadly closed in 1915. There are various reminders of the lines existence in our village.
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Post by: port perran on February 03, 2015, 01:33:46 PM
Things have been progressing at Trepol Bay station :
The station platforms, buildings and fencing are now largely in place.
First is an overall view of the approach to the station :(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/stat4_zps2705d879.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/stat4_zps2705d879.jpg.html)
The retaining wall between harbour level and station level is now painted and I have filled in the rail edging at top and bottom.  I'll be fitting fencing between the top of the wall and the main line.
Now, here is the station itself - no station furniture (or little people) yet :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/stat3_zpsf2c840f2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/stat3_zpsf2c840f2.jpg.html)
The station from harbour level. The station lamp posts are not secure yet hence the slightly alarming angles !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/stat2_zpsac4b816c.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/stat2_zpsac4b816c.jpg.html)
Finally an overhead view. I have created a loading ramp where the "Mechanical Horse" is parked, It is difficult to see but there are also steps on the left giving pedestrian access to the station. I've still got the detailing to do to the left of the point where it's bare grey at the moment :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/stat1_zps284d1fc4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/stat1_zps284d1fc4.jpg.html)
The station is intended to give the feel of a N Cornwall LSWR station in approx. 1961. 
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 03, 2015, 01:53:20 PM
Many thanks for those photos., Martin. Very nice to see such great progress. It really is looking like a SR (ex-LSWR) station in North Cornwall (a few were brick-built although most used local stone).

For the empty bay platform end (to the left of the point where it's bare grey at the moment) how about leaving trackless sleepers and a bufferbeam glued to the end wall to represent a piece of track removed (which did happen to some NCR stations which had had a dead end siding designed for the end loading of wagons)? You could have weeds and grass growing in the old ballast and stains where the (lifted) rails once were.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on February 03, 2015, 02:12:43 PM
Excellent modelling, Martin, and I'd agree with CiP's suggestion :thumbsup:
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Post by: wookie on February 03, 2015, 03:06:40 PM
That really is looking very nice Martin
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Post by: port perran on February 03, 2015, 03:12:33 PM
Many thanks for those photos., Martin. Very nice to see such great progress. It really is looking like a SR (ex-LSWR) station in North Cornwall (a few were brick-built although most used local stone).

For the empty bay platform end (to the left of the point where it's bare grey at the moment) how about leaving trackless sleepers and a bufferbeam glued to the end wall to represent a piece of track removed (which did happen to some NCR stations which had had a dead end siding designed for the end loading of wagons)? You could have weeds and grass growing in the old ballast and stains where the (lifted) rails once were.

I do like that idea. I had toyed with a PW hut of some sort. I'll experiment and try it out. Thanks for the idea.
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Post by: port perran on February 03, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Sleepers already in place !!
I'll see what it looks like once the glue is dry and I get some grass etc down.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 03, 2015, 04:18:40 PM
I think it will look very good, Martin. I first saw something similar on Mike Gibbs' excellent Chetcombe.
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Post by: port perran on February 05, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
There was great excitement in West Cornwall today amongst the enthusiast community.
The slightly delayed special train of wagons from Cant Cove (via Wadebridge) arrived at Port Perran at 4-33 this afternoon.
It is pictured passing Trepol Bay behind the specially cleaned Q1 (which is on trial in the area).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/train1_zpsb08793e8.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/train1_zpsb08793e8.jpg.html)

Thanks to Chris (in Prague) for a superb job in painting the wagons/vans. They are indeed painted to a VERY high standard indeed.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on February 05, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for this nice photo. The two pale blue vans are in Castle Estates livery and are duplicates of ones which I have for 'through' running. The brown and grey wagons and vans have been carefully prepainted ready for painting in Port Perran and Trepol Bay companies' PO liveries. The (removable) wagon loads in three open wagons are also duplicates for through running of Castle Estates' open wagons.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 07, 2015, 04:51:23 PM
Quite a lot of work today on Trepol Bay but it's aMade and fixed all preparatory stuff at the moment.
Sleepers laid into the old bay platform where the tracks have been removed and ground partly weathered.
Started to build/paint the Ratio concrete footbridge.
Started to paint the signalbox.
Built and fixed a carriage servicing/goods exchange platform just beyond the station.
Painted and cut to shape various lengths of wooden footpaths across the track.
Cut and painted the retaining wall for the grass bank to the rear of the station area.
Marked out the location of the grounded carriage body and old grounded brake van which will form a café/ice cream outlet.
Should be more to see tomorrow as bits are put into place.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 07, 2015, 05:10:32 PM
Sounds like excellent progress, Martin. Looking forward to the pictures in due course.
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Post by: port perran on February 08, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
Bit of a schoolboy error today !! :dunce:
Made up the ratio (SR) concrete footbridge  -  which turned out OK.
Problem is.....I don't want it on the station, merely crossing the track at ground level. I stupidly didn't realise that it needs to go platform to platform hence it's too low just across the rails !
I shall need to build up the landscape to accommodate the bridge. Glad I realised at the very last moment BEFORE I stuck it down !
Ugh !!!
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Post by: port perran on February 08, 2015, 08:26:09 PM
There has been a quite a bit of activity in the Port Perran/Trepol Bay area today (freight wise).
First, we have an ex GW 57XX pannier arriving from the Trepol Bay direction with the 3.15 arrival of vans/wagons from the Castle Estate and brewery at Cant Cove. The train is held in the goods loop at Port Perran and will later be shunted into the goods yard. The Castle ales will be delivered to the Cornish Arms at Port Perran - later a couple of the vans will return to Trepol Bay with a delivery for the Station Hotel :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/today3_zpsa2f2c3a5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/today3_zpsa2f2c3a5.jpg.html)
Slightly late (at 4.16) we see a Class 22 with vans and an open wagon from the Headland Brewery at Trepol Bay. Two of the vans will be shunted into the goods yard at Port Perran whilst the train will continue to Truro yard.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/today2_zps3751ede2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/today2_zps3751ede2.jpg.html)
At 5.00 we have a special goods being shunted in the yard at Port Perran :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/today1_zps952e515e.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/today1_zps952e515e.jpg.html)
This short train contains two wagons containing cut granite (bound for Truro yard) plus a van from Headland Brewery bound for Penzance.
It is expected that sometime tomorrow a further special train will leave Port Perran bound for Trepol bay and on to Wadebridge consisting of a van and open wagon (with barrels) from the Headland Brewery bound for Weaver Cove together with an open wagon containing cut granite bound for Calverdon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2015, 08:29:15 AM
Many thanks for those photos., Martin. I'm glad that you realised the potential problem with the concrete footbridge in time. Maybe the piers could be built onto dark stone bases?

Very nice see to see all the newly liveried vans and wagons in use in North and Northwest Cornwall. The first shipment of agricultural products from the Castle Estates left this morning for Wadebridge en route to Pentewan (for Mevagissey). It is hoped that further traffic will develop from the Castle Estates to the area. However, with a thriving local brewery in the area the Castle Brewery is not too optimistic about selling its excellent ales there.

Spurred on by the major increase in trade, the Cant Cove Loco. Preservation Group has been given another batch of ex-BR vans and wagons bought by the Castle Estates from BR on behalf of various local companies in the area, including more modern long wheelbase vacuum-fitted stock for express goods services, some of which will, after overhaul and prepainting be transferred to Port Perran and Trepol Bay. The Commercial Manager, Castle Estates, Cant Cove, near Wadebridge, welcomes enquiries on behalf of these companies in North and Northwest Cornwall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
I'm suffering today with man flu (OK-maybe it's just a bad cold) so doing bits and pieces on Trepol Bay including making the Ratio signal box and building up the embankment to the rear of the station.
Also want to alter the fiddle yard on Port Perran a little to better accommodate the spur line to Trepol Bay which currently has an un-necessary slight kink in it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2015, 07:52:14 PM
As you may be aware , Trepol Bay is very much at the extreme SW edge of the SR (former LSWR) line into North Cornwall.  It lies on a line from Wadebridge to Newquay but is, in actual fact, on a loop from the main line which itself takes a slightly shorter inland route. Trepol Bay is also essentially the junction station for Weaver Cove.
Trepol Bay was originally (1885) reached by the Great Western Railway who ran a single line branch to Trepol Bay harbour from Newquay in order to serve the growing port there. At that time Trepol Bay was a freight only branch.
In 1893 the LSWR was keen to tap into the tourist potential of the Trepol Bay area and built their line from Wadebridge into a new station above the harbour at Trepol Bay. In 1905 the GWR and LSWR (together with local funding) completed the joint line from Wadebridge to Newquay taking a more direct inland route via St Issey and St Eval.
After that date Trepol Bay saw regular services via the LSWR from Wadebridge and via the GWR from Newquay.
Under a local agreement certain trains (5 per day in each direction) ran from Wadebridge to Newquay to Port Perran and on to Truro thus providing a very useful local transport link.
By 1959 this traffic was still quite lucrative. Trepol Bay saw GW panniers and praries on locals fropm Truro (via Port Perran) along with new 2 car DMUs and an old ex GW railcar. From the other direction, passenger trains were usually hauled by T9s, Ns, O2s, BR Standards and an M7 (on special trial in the area).
Occasionally, Wadebridge would press an unrebuilt WC or BB into operation which could see an SR pacific reach Truro.  Similarly, one of Truro's Manors occasionally reached Wadebridge.
By 1962/63 the line also saw the occasional Class 35 Hymek on passenger duties.
The line did also see some special trains reaching Truro via the LSWR withered arm route and this saw some unusual locomotive workings into the area.
In addition, there was a healthy freight schedule together with local parcels trains.  These workings will be dealt with later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 12, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
Wadebridge had four O2s at various times: 30203 (withdrawn 1955), 30200 (transferred 1961), 30192 (transferred 1953), 30236 (withdrawn 1960). They were replaced on Wadebridge to Bodmin services by ex-GWR 0-6-0PTs from 1961 to 1963: 3633, 3679, 4666, 4694 and  9770 all being seen. (3633 and 3679 were the 1st pair allocated to Wadebridge arriving and departing in November / December 1959; 4666 and 4694 arrived in late 1959 but lasted until February 1963). The 0-6-0PTs were replaced, in turn, by Ivatt 2-6-2Ts on the Bodmin branch 1962-1964, 41230, 41270, 41272 41275, 41284, 41295, 41308, 41320 all being recorded. 41275 and 41295 were allocated to Wadebridge from February 1963 to Summer 1964. D63XXs (Class 22) replaced them 1964 to 1966.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 12, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
I missed the Class 22s of course running up from Truro and on to Wadebridge and beyond.
And of course there would be Ivatts turning up at Trepol Bay.
Thanks for the information Chris.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 12, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
"Hymek" (Class 35s) allocated to Plymouth Laira in the period 1962-4 were: D7027, 1963-1964: D7028, D7072, D7073; in 1964: D7069, D7070; 1963-1964: D7089, D7090; any of these could have been seen working from Bodmin - Wadebridge - Trepol Bay - Newquay - Truro, although D63XX (Class 22s) would have been more likely motive power. D7028 [I should renumber it D7027, I think] and D7090 are often sub-shedded at Penmayne for Wadebridge area services.

From 1965 Plymouth (Laira) allocated diesel single unit railcars (Class 122 and, rarer, Class 121) could also be seen having replaced the the two ex-GWR diesel railcars in BR Green livery allocated to Penmayne and Port Perran rostered from 1962 (ex-works at Worcester) to off-peak services until BR had enough new single unit diesel railcars to replace them on scheduled services (they remained in use for special services together with a GWS Bodmin preserved example restored in GWR livery). Peak period services saw Class 116, 118 and 120 DMUs (some 2-car, some 3-car).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 12, 2015, 08:51:47 PM
With a collection of Ian Allan Locoshed books plus oniine resources I can now detail which steam locos. were allocated to Cornwall from 1959-1962, too.

Truro depot (which closed in 1965, Class 08 D3526 being the last loco. allocated there) had from 1959-1962 (when it closed to steam) a small allocation of 57XX, 45XX, and 4575s plus a single 68XX "Grange" in 1961, 6854 plus two further "Granges" which were allocated from 1958 to 1961: 6823 and 6828. One of these is a must for GW125! From 1959-1960 it also had two 78XX "Manors", 7813 (moved to 85A Worcester) and 7820, which then moved to nearby St. Blazey. 7820 would be another favourite for GW125.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 13, 2015, 02:37:49 PM
A special train left Trepol Bay today :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/post_zps04f8f317.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/post_zps04f8f317.jpg.html)
The train consists of newly painted wagons headed for Weaver Cove and Claverdon hauled by one of Truro's Class 22s seen heading towards Trepol Bay station and on to Wadebridge.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 13, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
Very nice to see, Martin. Thanks, as always, for the excellent photo. (The Cant Cove LPG will be overhauling and prepainting more vans and wagons but, probably, not until Easter.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 14, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
Quite a bit of work going on at Trepol Bay today.
Many of the grassy areas are now green (once dry there are fences etc to go up).
Watering stage completed for the shed.
Various lineside huts painted and located (Chris, I am painting the small lamp hut that your friend made).
Various wooden walkways across the track painted and fixed in place.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 14, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
As always, I am impressed by your speed, Martin and look forward to the photos, soon. Those lamp huts are minute. I have not touched the one for Cant Cove since it arrived.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 06:45:29 AM
After studying the first of the Ian Allan Locoshed books which I have bought (Autumn 1965) I discovered that, to my great surprise, there WERE some of what became Class 04 diesel shunters allocated to the WR, but at 85A Worcester, so a WR Class 04 (instead of the far more usual Class 03) at Port Perran is possible. Interestingly, one of them was D2200 which I believe was a tramway loco with enclosed motion and a 'cow catcher'! By the way, I missed out on the Summer 1961 Locoshed book which went for £22.01 and the Autumn 1960 which went for £30! (I do, however, have 1959, 1960 and 1962 quite well covered in other editions; plus 1965. For me the key year is 1962 for which I have both editions.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2015, 03:29:33 PM
Work on the upper (station) level of Trepol Bay is drawing to a close. Some detailing to complete but this top section is now probably 95% finished. So....I decided to post a few pictures :

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tba_zps8299a4ad.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tba_zps8299a4ad.jpg.html)
A general view of the station. The lamp posts are still to be fixed so slightly wobbly at the moment. The T9 is waiting with a 2 coach Wadebridge train whilst the ex GW railcar will depart later with a local for Port Perran.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tpb_zps70c6a3af.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tpb_zps70c6a3af.jpg.html)
The station from the western end. The wagons on the right are on the lower (port) level. The Black Motor is waiting between duties and the maroon carriages are in the carriage storage sidings for a later working. The grounded coach body in the foreground is the Station Diner. The grounded brake van body serves ice creams.
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Station Diner (fully licensed).
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The carriage siding with the watering pipe laying alongside. The grassy bank is full of yellow flowers. The whole thing will be improved of course once the backscene is in place.
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The shed area seen from the harbour.  A WR prarie is in residence (it will work the maroon coaches to Truro later) whilst the pannier shunts wagons in the harbour. The Western National bus has left Trepol Bay for Newquay.
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The shed with a row of shops and the Station Hotel behind.
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West end of the station showing the carriage servicing platform which also serves as a base for loading some local goods etc.
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Shed from below.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbj_zps77c8aa05.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbj_zps77c8aa05.jpg.html)
A general view from the station towards the viaduct. That large obtrusive screw on the harbour incline is only temporary (although it has been there for ages) and needs to come out !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbk_zps2c0f1fcf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbk_zps2c0f1fcf.jpg.html)
The viaduct with the shed to the right.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbl_zps5dd0bd3f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbl_zps5dd0bd3f.jpg.html)
A view over the canal with narrow gauge (Z scale) line in front of the wall.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbm_zps4350b927.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbm_zps4350b927.jpg.html)
The station area
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbn_zps673af29f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbn_zps673af29f.jpg.html)
Looking up towards the station from the harbour. This shows the largish area still to be built. The white circle will be a wagon turntable. The whole area will be populated with warehouses, workshops and small factory style buildings. I hope to make it very "higgledy-piggeldy" and a bit dilapidatedas was Hayle wharves in the 196os.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbp_zpsd34f3ef1.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbp_zpsd34f3ef1.jpg.html)
Finally, Chris (in Prague) wanted a close up of the ballast to get an idea of colouring. Hope this helps Chris.
So...sorry to bore everyone with the pictures - they do as ever, show up some imperfections which I can remedy. The whole station area and diner etc will benefit from the addition of little people, luggage, signs etc etc but that will come later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
Sorry Chris, I realise that I didn't include a photo of the small lamp hut. I'll get one later. You can just see the top of it above the wagon behind the coaches of the Wadebridge train. I've positioned it at the very end of the platform.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
Really superb modelling, Martin. So much to see and admire. Plenty of bushes growing everywhere and a few trees; the look I'm aiming for for Cant Cove, this summer. The green seaweed on the harbour wall though is particularly fine. The water hose is just like the one at Bude. You just need to add (If you have not already) a little upright oblong of faded green-painted balsa wood to represent the insulated water tap housing.) Thanks, too, for the ballast closeup; a very good example for me. I'll go for a higher proportion of brown in the mix, though; judging from the colour pictures of NCR ballast (not that reproductions of 1960s colour film can be relied on though).

I see what you meant about the Summer Lightning poster being too big. My mistake, sorry.

Good to see the SR lamp hut nicely painted and in situ.

Many congratulations.

Will the running in boards be BR Cream lettering on SR Green? If you give me the dimensions I'll have a go at creating TREPOL BAY as well as CANT COVE and PENMAYNE as my ink jet cartridges and a big box of Canon A4 Glossy Photo Paper have just arrived! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
I think I saw the lamp hut by the Black Motor's tender? If so, I'd turn it around by 45 degrees so that the door does not open directly onto the running line.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2015, 04:02:34 PM
Many thanks for the kind comments Chris.
The small lamp hut is on the end of the platform (not the one by the loco tender). I'll get a photo later.
The running in board will indeed be cream on green. I was going to make one but if you are happy to have a go, I'll leave it to you. Dimensions to follow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 04:07:42 PM
Yes, I'll work on the signs this evening. Photos, tomorrow.

Do you want the arrow on the station direction sign pointing left or right? (Assuming you want one, of course. 8-) )

My mistake about the identity of the hut. I should have recognised it as I have all the SR concrete ones available.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on February 15, 2015, 04:13:58 PM
Very nice - the whole thing has a lovely atmosphere to it....
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2015, 04:16:50 PM
So....here's a picture of the small lamp hut that Chris' friend produced :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/aa1_zps0039b848.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/aa1_zps0039b848.jpg.html)
(I've also turned the other around as per your suggestion).

Also here's an overall picture of the Trepol Bay layout :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/aa2_zps7fb41271.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/aa2_zps7fb41271.jpg.html)
This shows the area I still have to complete ( I need it all reasonably finished by July 4th which is the date of a model rail show near Redruth) together with the track plan for the harbour.
I also have a trawler kit to build and paint !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 04:32:09 PM
Here's a 'quick n dirty' sign. I apologise that I do not have BR Gill Sans in the correct medium weight:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TREPOL%20BAY%20Running%20In%20Sign_zpsomeacoz4.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TREPOL%20BAY%20Running%20In%20Sign_zpsomeacoz4.jpg.html)

I hope the SR Green is the right shade, the letters are now in pale cream and the letters have been given half-width spacing.

Comments welcome. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 15, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Looks spot on to me. Thank you.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
Thanks, Martin. I'm reasonably happy with it, now. I've since made CANT COVE, PENMAYNE, and FOX HOLES HALT as once TREPOL BAY was done, 'cloning' was easy. 8-)

I have also produced DESCANSO FARM HALT but in BR WR Chocolate.

I can now create other BR WR and SR signs; I need to fill an A4 sheet of expensive photographic paper!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 15, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
I can also create station direction signs but I need to know the scale dimensions, please. (These pictures are produced over-size.)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Station%20direction%20sign%20-%20LEFT%20-%20COLOUR.psf_zpsjp5bc0pj.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Station%20direction%20sign%20-%20LEFT%20-%20COLOUR.psf_zpsjp5bc0pj.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Station%20direction%20sign%20-%20RIGHT%20-%20COLOUR_zpslvp88moa.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20Station%20direction%20sign%20-%20RIGHT%20-%20COLOUR_zpslvp88moa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2015, 08:48:48 AM
Ideas needed please !
Having pretty much finished the top layer of Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbj_zps77c8aa05.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbj_zps77c8aa05.jpg.html)
I now turn my attention to the lower (harbour level) :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/tbn_zps673af29f.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/tbn_zps673af29f.jpg.html)
I want the harbour area to look busy and a bit ranshackle so need ideas of what industries to accommodate. I already have a fruit/veg wholesaler in place - to the left just off picture.
I intend to include a small distribution warehouse (just in front of the china clay wagons).
I want to use horses to pull wagons so need a small stable.
I also need a (grandish) port/harbour office.
I'm dithering whether to include a china clay loading/unloading facility on the harbourside ?  My only concern is having to weather too much which would spoil (I think) the harbour wall.
The harbour will, of course, handle all manner of freight coming in/out by boat/train.
I'd like to include at least 3-4 other businesses - so any ideas please ?
I intend all buildings to be scratch built.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 16, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
Good morning Martin,

I would recommend some of the following:

fruit/veg wholesaler in place -- to the left just off picture.
small distribution warehouse (for Castle Estates?) (just in front of the china clay wagons).
small stable for horses.
(grandish) port/harbour office -- Georgian style? http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coastguard-office-poole-dorset-england-march-headquarters-march-shipping-sailing-natural-harbour-32868088.jpg (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coastguard-office-poole-dorset-england-march-headquarters-march-shipping-sailing-natural-harbour-32868088.jpg)
Or something simpler: https://cornishinc.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/wadebridge-station-office.jpg (https://cornishinc.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/wadebridge-station-office.jpg)
ship repairs / light engineering works
bay tours
diesel oil tanks for refuelling ships
coal staithes
warehouse for Headland Brewery importers & distributors of fine ales, wines and spirits
agricultural merchants: grain, fertilisers, etc.
timber importers

I would not recommend a china clay loading/unloading facility on the harbourside as by the 1960s china clay was only being loaded at a few, bigger ports (e.g. Padstow was not used).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2015, 03:52:43 PM
Thanks Chris. Some good ideas there.
I had missed out the word brewery before distribution warehouse in the original post.
I'll definitely consider the others.
As for china clay, I like the idea but like you go along with the fact that it would be unlikely in the 1960s. I may have a shute for loading clay onto boats but have it as disused - there is a good example at Charllestown.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on February 16, 2015, 04:02:26 PM
A Ship's chandlers?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 16, 2015, 04:36:40 PM
A Ship's chandlers?
Nice idea - thank you.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 16, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
A Ship's chandlers?
Nice idea - thank you.

Seconded; I think that was one of the suggestions, too, earlier on?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 19, 2015, 07:20:25 PM
Just a quick view of a single decker (bound for Chris in Prague) crossing the bridge into Trepol Bay on its way to Padstow.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/zzbus_zps0c1148ce.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/zzbus_zps0c1148ce.jpg.html)
Not a brilliant photo I'm afraid but it's an awkward spot to reach with very little light.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 19, 2015, 07:41:48 PM
Many thanks, Martin. I really wanted the bus to have passed Trepol Bay station. 8-) As Martin writes, it says PADSTOW (in our 'alternative Cornwall, Penmayne got the railway and grew . . . Padstow did not) on the destination board but I will change that to CANT COVE and it will run a railway feeder service from the outlying villages to the station. The Southern National was a bus company in which the Southern Railway had invested and, I think, after the 1948 Nationalisation continue to run to pretty much the same timetables into the 1960s.

From Wikipedia: "Southern National Omnibus Company started in 1929 as a joint venture between the Southern Railway and the National Omnibus & Transport Company.

Southern National was formed to improve co-ordination of road and rail passenger services in the operating area of the Southern Railway. The railway had very little involvement in bus services, but the National Omnibus transferred its operations in the operating area to the new company. The result was an operating territory split into two areas: Dorset (based at Weymouth) and north Devon and north Cornwall (based at Barnstaple). The two areas were separated by the operating territories of Devon General and Western National.

In 1931 a controlling interest in the National Omnibus was acquired by the Tilling Group. From then on Southern National was run as a Tilling company, although the railway retained its shares until 1948. Western National and Southern National shared a common management, based in Exeter.

At the end of 1934, Western National and Southern National bought Royal Blue Coach Services.

On 1 January 1948, the Southern Railway was nationalised, and shortly after, the Tilling Group sold its bus interests to the government. Southern National therefore became a state-owned company, under the control of the British Transport Commission. On 1 January 1963, Southern National was included in the transfer of the British Transport Commission's transport assets to the state-owned Transport Holding Company, which in turn passed to the state-owned National Bus Company (NBC) on 1 January 1969.

Shortly after its formation, the NBC transferred the operations of Southern National to Western National, and Southern National ceased to operate as a separate entity."
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 21, 2015, 04:50:02 PM
Just added some "furniture" to the garden area of the Trepol Bay Station Diner.
Customers can now relax at the table and shelter from the sun (tables/chairs and umbrella courtesy of Chris in Prague).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_0922_zpsff1eaa87.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_0922_zpsff1eaa87.jpg.html)
The grounded brakevan body will be the Ice Cream kiosk (posters etc to come later).
And, of course, I need to add some little people.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 21, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Looking very good, Martin. I will, eventually, have some similar tables, chairs and sun shades, but in red and white outside both the "Cant Cove Beach Cafe" and "The Railway Hotel".

The posters are coming! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 23, 2015, 11:37:22 AM
After carefully studying your ballast and colour photos. taken on the SR, I think you've got a very accurate representative of the SR Meldon Quarry ballast:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20SR%20Ballast%20-%20COLOUR_zps4kgrytto.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20SR%20Ballast%20-%20COLOUR_zps4kgrytto.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 09:53:57 AM
Wet and gloomy here today so ideal opportunity to start on the lower (harbour) level of Trepol Bay.
 I'm starting with the distribution warehouse for the Headland Brewery and associated small wagon maintenance warehouse (which will be attached to the Headland Brewery depot but will be an independent organisation).
These two buildings will incorporate the small wagon turntable (which also has to be constructed).
This will , I think, be rather slow progress as a lot is involved. Hopefully, pictures to follow when I have something tangible to photograph.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 08, 2015, 09:59:45 AM
A beautiful sunny day here, Martin. I quickly was able to do some 'rust' patch painting (on a 'Wadebridge' BR Bauxite ex-LNER brake van, for Jon, plus an open wagon that I'd removed the text from. Later, I plan to do some more Castle Brewery dark blue painting.

I look forward, in due course, to the photos. of progress on the lower (harbour) level of Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 03:48:39 PM
A bit of progress with the Headland Brewery Distribution depot made today :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1013_zpsvc6tnape.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1013_zpsvc6tnape.jpg.html)
Obviously, no roof yet and the edges of the walls have to be tidied up.
The roof will be of the Northlight variety and there will also be a loading bay for road vehicles on the nearest side. I've also started on the canopy which will be above the rail loading bay.
The wagon workshop will be to the far side and will be accessed via the wagon turntable.  All track will be covered by paving.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1015%201_zpsepqquoni.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1015%201_zpsepqquoni.jpg.html)
This second picture shows the depot as it will be in situ. A loaded wagon (from the Castle Brewery) is due to be collected for forwarding to Cant Cove in due course.
The building looks a bit rough and ready at the mo but (hopefully) will come to life eventually.
This is the first of several which will populate the busy harbour area.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 08, 2015, 04:32:01 PM
Good start Mick.
Is that going to be a wagon turntable?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
Good start Mick.
Is that going to be a wagon turntable?
Yes, will be a small wagon turntable - I'm not going to the bother of motorising it though !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 08, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
Is the aim of a wagon turntable just to get a wagon off the main siding so it can be unloaded?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 08, 2015, 04:54:46 PM
Looking good, Martin. I think a Sam's Cider van would look good unloading there, too! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
Is the aim of a wagon turntable just to get a wagon off the main siding so it can be unloaded?
Not really, I'm putting a small Wagon repair workshop next to the brewery building. The idea being that single wagons can be turned and put into the workshop for attention/repainting.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
Looking good, Martin. I think a Sam's Cider van would look good unloading there, too! 8-)
Thanks Chris.
If you can paint me a single Cider van (I'd prefer a van) at some point, I'd be pleased to run one. No rush at all though.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 08, 2015, 05:25:13 PM
Is the aim of a wagon turntable just to get a wagon off the main siding so it can be unloaded?
Not really, I'm putting a small Wagon repair workshop next to the brewery building. The idea being that single wagons can be turned and put into the workshop for attention/repainting.

Thanks Martin
Very handy for distributing wagons, but of course you have to be able to uncouple them!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 05:36:47 PM
Is the aim of a wagon turntable just to get a wagon off the main siding so it can be unloaded?
Not really, I'm putting a small Wagon repair workshop next to the brewery building. The idea being that single wagons can be turned and put into the workshop for attention/repainting.

Thanks Martin
Very handy for distributing wagons, but of course you have to be able to uncouple them!
Ah - now - having seen a very simple demo of magnetic uncoupling at the inaugural meeting of our local N Gauge group on Friday, that may well be in hand !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 08, 2015, 05:40:24 PM
Dapol magnetic couplings, or something else?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 08, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
Dapol magnetic couplings, or something else?
It was home built and I intend to do a post about it later when I have a bit more info.
It was impressive though !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 08, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
Looking good, Martin. I think a Sam's Cider van would look good unloading there, too! 8-)
Thanks Chris.
If you can paint me a single Cider van (I'd prefer a van) at some point, I'd be pleased to run one. No rush at all though.

Definitely a van, Martin, but it may be a while; probably, April.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Hailstone on March 08, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
I have fitted remote uncoupling on Tremierten - see this thread http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26464.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26464.0)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 09, 2015, 04:18:38 PM
Quite a bit more progress on the Brewery Depot today but......I'm at the point where I MUST let everything dry before moving it and carrying on. I'm often tempted to get on with things too quickly with obvious disastrous consequences !!
Hence, no photos today !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 10, 2015, 07:30:19 PM
Getting there now with the Headland Brewery Distribution Warehouse  for Trepol Bay Harbour :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1016_zps8hgikhwi.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1016_zps8hgikhwi.jpg.html)
The building is largely complete now. Sorry about the rather shiny photo. It's taken this evening with no natural light and a spotlight shining on the building side which makes it look like gloss paint !
There are finishing touches and a bit of tidying of paint still to do and I need to add some steps up to the rail loading bay where the small ladder currently sits.
I still have to fit a few signs etc .
To the right of this building will sit a small wagon repair/repainting workshop which will be accessed via a wagon turntable. The tracks (where the brewery wagons are sitting will be "cobbled" over so that only the rails show eventually.
This is the first of the main harbour buildings - many more will be added around it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 10, 2015, 07:40:40 PM
Very nice work, Martin. If you can give me the dimensions for the signs I can add some to the sheet which I'm still planning to post to you when I get a spare half-an-hour!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on March 10, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Smashing pic of the warehouse, Martin, and I'm glad you explained about the lighting as everything looks very 'clean'.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 10, 2015, 09:41:33 PM
Smashing pic of the warehouse, Martin, and I'm glad you explained about the lighting as everything looks very 'clean'.
Thanks Mick. It isn't nearly so shiny in real light but it's still too clean for my taste and will be weathered down when finished.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 10, 2015, 09:48:50 PM
The more I look at those barrels stacked in the wagon the more I realise that 7-plank Castle Brewery open wagons are needed so I'm painting a pair and one will be sent to you for the load in the picture! 8-) (I have an identical load for the other one, for me.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 11, 2015, 12:04:10 PM
So....I'll be moving on next to the wagon repair workshop and then on to the fish processing/packing/distribution warehouse (which will be rail served from the right hand side of the wagon turntable).
I guess that in reality it would have been OK for several wagons to in effect travel straight on over the small wagon turntable to access the fish plant siding ?
I'm thinking that the fish workshop will be whitewashed but very dirty after years of not being painted so I want it to look quite scruffy from the outside.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 11, 2015, 06:23:23 PM
Hi Martin, I don't know much about wagon turntables but, yes, I think it would have been OK for several wagons to travel straight on over the small wagon turntable to access the fish plant siding; however, locomotives would not, I think, be able to pass over a wagon turntable.

There was a fish shed at Padstow, on the harbourside, which is, I think, still standing but used for other purposes. I don't think it was 'dirty' as such but the corrugated roof would have been rusty and the paint on the sides faded due to the corrosive effect of salty wind and waves.

You can see the roof and one side of the fish shed here:
http://www.northcornwallrailway.co.uk/pics/padstow-station-6.jpg (http://www.northcornwallrailway.co.uk/pics/padstow-station-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 12, 2015, 06:20:50 PM
Achieved quite a lot today (it's been raining all day here !).
Been working on the small wagon repair workshop which is adjoining the recently completed brewery distribution depot though built of wood rather than the stone of the brewery building.
I've also laid some more cobbles around the area and fitted the small wagon turntable  :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1017_zpswljhmjrj.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1017_zpswljhmjrj.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1018_zpsdtlnvjcr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1018_zpsdtlnvjcr.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1019_zpsxzzhmfqf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1019_zpsxzzhmfqf.jpg.html)

Once again, it's a bit shiny due to artificial lighting as it's so gloomy here this evening. There is a fair bit of detailing still to be done plus signage on both buildings and the whole thing will be weathered down.  Though as the previous post, it's nowhere near as shiny to the naked eye.
The joins between the different sections of cobbled ground will also "disappear" eventually.
On to the fish processing/distribution warehouse next which will be to the right of the wagon workshop and which will have a canopy running over the track.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 12, 2015, 06:41:41 PM
Very nice work, Martin. I will need a break, this weekend, so can have a go at making some suggestions for your signboards.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 12, 2015, 08:38:56 PM
Oh wow!
I didn't realise that the turntable would unload straight into the repair shop.
Looks brilliant Martin
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 16, 2015, 12:00:18 PM
Purchased the Dapol Ivatt 2-6-2T at the weekend a type regularly seen in North Cornwall in the early 60s and therefore and obvious choice for Trepol Bay.
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Very pleased with it. Ran beautifully straight from the box (after following the oiling instructions) in both directions. No problem at slow speeds (even over Insulfrog points). My other 2-6-2 tanks (both Dapol 45XX praries) have always suffered from pony truck problems over complex points but the Ivatt doesn't seem to suffer any such problems so that's very pleasing.
Haven't tried it with long loads but manages 3 carriages and a van very easily.
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The second picture shows it just leaving Trepol Bay with the 10.25 Wadebridge to Truro through service. Looks very much at home to my eyes.
Detailing is good even if (probably unsurprisingly) the motion is a bit bulky.
Overall , I'm impressed and a good buy at £55-99p.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 16, 2015, 12:02:10 PM
Have just started work on the fish processing and packing warehouse for the harbour. Pictures will follow when I have something to show.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 16, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Your new Ivatt definitely looks at home at Trepol Bay with a SR van and coaches behind it, Martin. Is that your new BR SR Mark 1 BSK in the train?

The only one of my two Ivatts that I have here (after DCC-fitting at Wickness) is an earlier Dapol ND-064B BR Black Early Crest 41271 with push-pull (as some of those seen in North Cornwall were, but the P-P equipment was not used there). Apart from renumbering it (eventually) to a North Cornwall example, I'm also thinking of replacing the crests with Late ones. I paid a LOT more for my two Ivatts on eBay as they were very rare then. If only I had known that, this year, Dapol was going to do a final production run! I hope mine will run as well as yours. I was delighted to read about its excellent performance.

I look forward to seeing the photos. of the fish processing and packing warehouse for the harbour in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 16, 2015, 02:20:12 PM
Your new Ivatt definitely looks at home at Trepol Bay with a SR van and coaches behind it, Martin. Is that your new BR SR Mark 1 BSK in the train?

Actually no , it's one that I purchased from you a while back.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2015, 07:58:05 AM
Preparations are underway in north Cornwall for the GWR 125 Celebrations over the Easter period.
It is anticipated that several special trains wil make their way from "up-country" to the Duchy.
It is also rumoured that a special hauled by an ex GW loco will make it's way along the old LSWR route via Launceston, Wadebridge and on to Trepol Bay and Truro - we will wait to see.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Buffin on March 17, 2015, 01:35:43 PM
Over Easter? Won't the engineers be out in force to stop anything going anywhere?  :-\
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 17, 2015, 04:05:59 PM
This is 1960; there are plenty of alternative routes still open. Especially in our version of North Cornwall. 8-) However, Penmayne loco. depot is closed due to track repairs in the station yard so some locos. will be coming from further afield.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2015, 04:52:41 PM
Over Easter? Won't the engineers be out in force to stop anything going anywhere?  :-\
Definitely would be the case these days but we were a more resourceful breed back in 1960.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 17, 2015, 11:06:58 PM
Rumours are circulating in "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, that Swindon is overhauling a 4575 Class 2-6-2T in lined BR Green livery especially for use on specials in North Cornwall. Locals are wondering whether it will be one of the few 4575s left at St. Blazey (83E). Plymouth (Laira)(83D) is known to be specially cleaning one of its few 94XX 0-6-0PTs (in BR Black livery). Additionally, at least one 78XX "Manor" may be overhauled for use in Cornwall (currently, only 7806 and 7816, are left at St. Blazey (83E) and 7816 is rumoured to be the candidate).

No less than 4 WR chocolate & cream RMBs have been booked to be used in special trains to Cornwall and for use in local specials. Running numbers are reported to be: W1813, W1814, W1816 and W1821. The North Cornwall Pasty Co. of Penmayne has been announced as the sponsors.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2015, 09:30:00 AM
Back in the period late 1959 to late 1960, after the WR had taken over the ex-SR shed of Plymouth (Friary) which became 83H, four ex-SR Drewry 0-6-0 diesel shunters (later, Class 04s) were taken over, briefly: D2255, and D2257-9. So, your Class 04, could be renumbered as one of these which has been lent to Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2015, 09:47:25 AM
The Cant Loco. Preservation Group painters are rather overwhelmed with work at present. The Castle Estates' Commercial Manager has been on a business trip to Somerset where he signed contracts for the supply of Somerset best steaming coal for the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society and Great Western Society plus contracts to distribute 'Sam's Cider' via the Castle and Headland Breweries, in Cornwall, and for the supply of timber which the Castle Estates will send to the timber mill at Port Perran for processing before onward transport across the WR. (The Castle Estates do not have enough trees to meet the increasing demand for timber even though the company and its predecessors have always follow the ancient Celtic Forest law of replanting a tree for every tree that is cut down.)

[Wagon loads of logs, planks, and coal will be available, soon.]
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
Hopefully will be completing the fish processing plant today (first we need to view the eclipse then a bit of work at the alotment).
I have taken the decision to pack away Port Perran next week as  I need to move Trepol Bay into the middle of the room. Currently Port Perran and Trepol Bay are linked but as Trepol Bay is off to its first show in July, I need to be able to build and attach the fiddle yard which I can't do with Port Perran in the way.
So....Port Perran will be retired for a few months whilst Trepol Bay takes centre stage in the spare bedroom.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
There's nothing like a deadline to focus the mind, Martin :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 20, 2015, 10:58:31 AM
then a bit of work at the alotment).

What is it with old gits, train sets and allotments?  :smiley-laughing:
I used to have four allotments, but only have the two now....

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
then a bit of work at the alotment).

What is it with old gits, train sets and allotments?  :smiley-laughing:
I used to have four allotments, but only have the two now....
We have 2 and a half (don't ask why we have a half !).
Keeps us busy !!
However, change of plan today - done a bit of modelling this morning and now waiting for paint/glue to dry before assembling the fish warehouse so off to allotments this afternoon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 03:28:47 PM
I look forward to the photos of the the fish processing plant, Martin.

I'm sorry that you will have to pack away Port Perran next week but hope that it will be back for the Easter specials. I understand though that you need to be able to build and attach the fiddle yard to Trepol Bay and look forward to seeing how you achieve that.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 03:32:41 PM
I look forward to the photos of the the fish processing plant, Martin.

I'm sorry that you will have to pack away Port Perran next week but hope that it will be back for the Easter specials. I understand though that you need to be able to build and attach the fiddle yard to Trepol Bay and look forward to seeing how you achieve that.
There may well be a slight change of plan and maybe Port Perran will be moved to the end of the room but without its fiddle yard. That way I can still run trains on it and will have room to accommodate Trepol Bay (though the two will not be linked whilst the TB fiddle yard is being built).
Should have photos of the fish warehouse later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Cant Cove's Drewry with a rake of goods vehicles bound for Trepol Bay and Port Perran:

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From L to R: "Castle Estates" bogie stone wagon for conveying quarried stone to the stone finishers at Port Perran, "Castle Brewery" 7-plank wagon, Somerset "Sam's Cider" van, 15' express goods "Castle Estates" insulated van.

Close-up of Somerset "Sam's Cider" van, 15' express goods "Castle Estates" insulated van:

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Close-up of "Castle Estates" bogie stone wagon for conveying quarried stone to the stone finishers at Port Perran, "Castle Brewery" 7-plank wagon:

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Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
They look really good Chris.  Excellent painting as ever.
Looking forward to their arrival.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
Thank you, Martin. I look forward to seeing them running on your layouts. I'm waiting for the gloss yellow axleboxes to dry (takes a few days).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 04:45:06 PM
The Trepol Bay harbour fish processing/fish transportation warehouse is now largely finished bar some detailing and weathering. I'm not altogether happy with it but hope it will look better when I've finished the cobbled area in front and added bits and pieces around the building. The fencing on the left of the building definitely needs tidying up.
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We have the 3 harbour buildings completed so far in place. From left to right, Headland Brewery distribution warehouse, wagon repair/repainting workshop (accessed by wagon turntable) and fish processing warehouse.
Wagons will be moved over and beyond the turntable by horse so I will be incorporating a small stable building.
The final building to go next to the fish warehouse will be an engineering workshop.
I think the whole scene will come together once I've finished the detailing and weathering and added the bits and pieces to make it all come to life.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
I think it looks very good, Martin. The detailing and weathering will make it look even better. There are some very large and very small 'wooden' casks on their way to Trepol Bay along with the "Castle Brewery" open wagon. Maybe you need a couple more of the Dapol Fish Vans?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 05:02:54 PM
I think it looks very good, Martin. The detailing and weathering will make it look even better. There are some very large and very small 'wooden' casks on their way to Trepol Bay along with the "Castle Brewery" open wagon. Maybe you need a couple more of the Dapol Fish Vans?
Thanks for the casks Chris - they will certainly add to the scene.  Once I have some people the scene should come alive. I need to sit down and choose/order some.
I have one other fish van (may get another) but didn't put 2 in the picture as they would obscure the building.
I have an idea for making large crates of fish for the warehouse but I'll have to see if it works.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I thought that you had two of the excellent Dapol fish vans; maybe, a third would look good. I believe Dapol have issued ones with different running numbers. I forgot about the fish crates as I have a spare stack of them; I'll add them to the box, now.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 06:30:02 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I thought that you had two of the excellent Dapol fish vans; maybe, a third would look good. I believe Dapol have issued ones with different running numbers. I forgot about the fish crates as I have a spare stack of them; I'll add them to the box, now.
Thanks Chris, my idea is for the fish (I think it will work) but I hadn't thought about the crates. If you have some, it will be most helpful indeed.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
My pleasure, Martin. I thought that you had two of the excellent Dapol fish vans; maybe, a third would look good. I believe Dapol have issued ones with different running numbers. I forgot about the fish crates as I have a spare stack of them; I'll add them to the box, now.
Thanks Chris, my idea is for the fish (I think it will work) but I hadn't thought about the crates. If you have some, it will be most helpful indeed.

I look forward to seeing your idea realised, Martin. I have a few of these stacks of small crates which, to me look like fish boxes, and will be using a couple of them for Penmayne station (in the far future). I think one stack would be enough for fish suppers for all the guests at "The Railway Hotel", Cant Cove, so one stack may appear on the station platform on occasion!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 21, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
I look forward to the photos of the the fish processing plant, Martin.

I'm sorry that you will have to pack away Port Perran next week but hope that it will be back for the Easter specials. I understand though that you need to be able to build and attach the fiddle yard to Trepol Bay and look forward to seeing how you achieve that.
There may well be a slight change of plan and maybe Port Perran will be moved to the end of the room but without its fiddle yard. That way I can still run trains on it and will have room to accommodate Trepol Bay (though the two will not be linked whilst the TB fiddle yard is being built).
Should have photos of the fish warehouse later.

Ah, that's good news, Martin, as I think there will be quite a few special workings in Cornwall. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 26, 2015, 08:54:38 PM
Hopefully work can start this weekend on the small fiddle yard for Trepol Bay.
I know what I want to achieve but getting there may prove to be a challenge.
We'll see what transpires!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 26, 2015, 09:00:33 PM
I'm looking forward to watching your progress, Martin. I'm sure you'll do a fine job.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 27, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
So......Port Perran is now sitting at the end of the room minus it's fiddle yard (in future the fiddle yard is likely to be replaced by a single track running around the back of the Port Perran layout).
Trepol Bay has now been moved to the middle of the room and I have now measured up to get the exact dimensions for timber for the fiddle yard. Trip to B&Q tomorrow.
I also need to buy a bit of extra track for the new fiddle yard though most of it will be made up of the track from the old Port Perran fiddle yard. Hence a trip to Kernow MRC tomorrow.
Currently neither layout has any power to it but this should be rectified over the weekend.
I originally intended the TB yard to be small (only two lines) but now intend it to be 5 or six lines - this will give me the opportunity to have several trains made up ready to run through Trepol Bay station.
I also need to buy some timber tomorrow to make the backboard for Trepol Bay layout which Mrs PP has kindly offered to paint for me.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 28, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Been to B&Q and Kernow (got VERY wet) and work can now commence. Carpentry is not something I look forward to but must bite the bullet.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 28, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
I wish you success with the fiddle yard, Martin. It rained here, yesterday, but it's better, today.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 28, 2015, 11:54:46 AM
As you're going to be exhibiting Trepol Bay, I think a five or six line fiddle yard is a much better idea as it will, as you wrote, give you the opportunity to have several trains ready to run through Trepol Bay station and people like to see plenty of trains running.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 29, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
The fiddle yard is now pretty much complete and the first through trains have run into and out of Trepol Bay station.
I have, of course, suffered a severe bought of "Fishplate finger" and there has been a little bit of mild cursing - especially where flexi-track was involved (and when I hit my head on our sloping roof!).
However, generally it has all gone very well. I have a very slight problem to overcome at the end of Trepol Bay station where (unavoidably-I have VERY little room to play with) the curve into the fiddle yard is very close to the platform end so some longer vehicles just foul the platform edge. I shall try to put a very short straight in there to rectify the problem but I've done enough today so that can wait for tomorrow.
I also have a small problem with the entry to the  downslope into the harbour area where I need to relay a small section of track.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 29, 2015, 02:36:45 PM
It seems line you've made excellent progress, Martin, apart from the 'fishplate finger' which i'm not looking forward to suffering. Time to take a break and think things over before fixing the minor problems, tomorrow. I would have really suffered under the sloping roof!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 29, 2015, 07:58:48 PM
Having completed the fiddle yard, I thought I'd run some trains this evening and had an enjoyable time running a variety of formations and locos.  Apologies for the less than perfect pictures (lighting is a problem) and for my finger in one shot !!

First we have a Q1 (on trial in the area) heading a train from the Castle Estate at Penmayne to Port Perran (seen here passing Trepol Bay station) :
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Here we have an Ivatt 2-6-2T on a local bound for  Wadebridge (having just arrived at Trepol Bay from Port Perran):

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Here we have an ex LSWR T9 (lovingly restored and cleaned by the CLPG) on a long mixed freight from Wadebridge yard and bound for Truro. [Chris - you will, of course recognise the leading wagons].

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Ex GW railcar on a local bound for Port Perran which originated at Wadebridge.

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A Bubblecar on a local passing Trepol Bay en-route from Truro to Wadebridge.

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Ex LSWR 700 Class Black Motor with a rake of restored SR wagons which will be shunted into the harbour yard at Trepol bay.

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WR pannier shunting at Trepol Bay.

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2 car DMU bound for Newquay.

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Finally a bit of a stranger in the camp (and using Rule - 1) a class 25 on a sand train bound for the harbour. The train originated at Padstow.

This just gives a flavour of what I intend to run on Trepol Bay. The track seems happy (I learned a lot from building Port Perran). I have ironed out the problem of the curb=ve immediately after TB station so that all works now.
Just need to finish off the Fiddle Yard (it needs a safe "fence" round the edge where the rails are very close so I have to operate the trains very carefully at the moment).I can then concentrate on finishing the harbour area.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 29, 2015, 08:04:11 PM
All looking good Martin, well done  :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on March 29, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Nice pictures Martin, Trepol Bay looks good.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 29, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
Many thanks for those inspirational photos., Martin. Very nice to see the "Castle Estates" wagons and vans plus a "Castle Brewery" van running together. There will be some of the new 15' LWB "Castle Estates" wagons and vans which the company has just invested in for higher speed long-distance services plus a "Sam's Cider" 10' van as the Somerset cider is proving very popular in Cornwall.

Great to see the Ivatt 2-6-2T looking so at home with its BR SR Mark 1s. Mine are only timetabled to shuttle backwards and forwards between Wadebridge and Penmayne with two ex-LSWR BR Green non-corridor coaches (whilst the Maunsell 2P set is awaited from Eastleigh Works), passing straight through Cant Cove most of the time. However, the ex-WR 57XXs that the two Ivatts will replace at Wadebridge shed are still around so maybe one Ivatt and two BR SR Mark 1s may work through from Penmayne via Wadebridge to Trepol Bay on a Easter special service?

Yes, I recognise the wagons behind the T9. 8-)

I am afraid all my SR livery wagons and vans except for the two preserved SR 'Tarpaulin' 15' wagons used for Loco. coal deliveries to Cant Cove from Somerset were all repainted in PO or BR liveries. (I do have a roofless SR Banana Van though which could be put back in service! SR open wagons and vans do regularly come up on eBay so I could duplicate your preserved SR livery rake, eventually, I think. Can you show a picture of the full SR rake some time, please.)

I believe the BR Type 2 is on loan for comparison with North British Type 2s as part of the WR's diesel-hydraulic versus diesel-electric comparison trials? (The BRB is pressurising the WR to fall in line with the diesel-electrics are best 'official line'.)

I really must repatriate my 'Bubblecar' and buy a T9 (but in BR Black)!

Nice to see the "Castle Estates" local office (there will be roof signs printed eventually) and "Castle Brewery" van body store in the goods yard.

Trepol Bay is really looking excellent, Martin. It's great to see a new set of photos. showing it in almost finished state from various angles. I'm sure that it (and Descanso Farm) will prove to be very popular at exhibitions. Many congratulations.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 29, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Thanks for your kind comments Chris.
Yes, I will get a photo of my full rake of SR wagons in due course and I like your idea of the BR comparison trials between Class 25 and the Class 22s (great idea - I was wondering what justification I could use for the 25!).
The Castle Estate office is still not in its final position. It keeps moving as the harbour develops. It will end up in the middle foreground which will be the last bit to be constructed.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on March 29, 2015, 09:44:13 PM
 :greatpicturessign: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 29, 2015, 09:47:04 PM
Thanks, Martin. Around the mid-1960s (I need to check my books; the National Traction Plan came out in 1967 and foretold the doom for non-standard diesels), BR was working on an internal plan to discredit diesel hydraulic traction in favour of diesel-electric so such a trial is not impossible to imagine.

The wagon loads are well under way!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 30, 2015, 06:48:59 PM
As requested by Chris (in Prague), here is a quick photo of my small rake of preserved SR wagons :
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I believe that all of these are still currently available.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 30, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
Thanks, Martin. So, as I have two 15' "Tarpaulin" wagons and one 10' Banana Van, then I just need to look out for two SR livery 10' open wagons; they look like 7- and 5-plank ones?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 30, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Thanks, Martin. So, as I have two 15' "Tarpaulin" wagons and one 10' Banana Van, then I just need to look out for two SR livery 10' open wagons; they look like 7- and 5-plank ones?
Correct one X 7 plank and one X 5 plank. I can get one of each (if I can find them) and pop them off to you if you wish ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 31, 2015, 12:36:12 PM
Correction. I have a SR 7-plank open wagon so I just need a SR 5-plank open wagon. (Maybe, we should add a 6-plank SR open wagon to the rake, too?)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 02, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
The Peco Tarpaulin wagon is a pretty close to scale (although the underframe is incorrect) model of the 1950's fourteen feet wheelbase chassis BR FERRY OPEN which was fitted with a hinged tarpaulin rail.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on April 03, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
The Trepol Bay Fiddle Yard is now almost complete - except for a little tidying and I need to add a surround. Trains are currently subject to a 5mph speed restriction to avoid falling off the edge !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1055_zps5tmgaxay.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1055_zps5tmgaxay.jpg.html)
This is unusual in that the fiddle yard is larger than the actual layout ! It does however allow me to have 14 trains ready assembled and able to run one way or the other through the scenic bit. It's all tested and runs perfectly so I'm happy. Plus the large size allows me to have large radius curves. The backboards for Trepol Bay are not yet painted therefore not in place yet.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 03, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
Thanks for the photo. update, Martin. That is indeed an impressive 'fiddle yard'; it's a layout in its own right! 8-) I envy you the space.
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Post by: johnlambert on April 03, 2015, 02:19:13 PM
Nice to see behind the scenes.  The fiddle yard for Claverdon is slightly bigger than the scenic board too, I think it makes sense to give yourself plenty of space.  One of the mistakes I made was to put the fiddle yard tracks too close together, I see you've avoided that pitfall.
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Post by: Caz on April 03, 2015, 02:22:27 PM
Nice to see the overall view Martin, that is some fiddle yard you've got yourself, should make for some great running, thanks for the pic.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on April 03, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
Nice to see behind the scenes.  The fiddle yard for Claverdon is slightly bigger than the scenic board too, I think it makes sense to give yourself plenty of space.  One of the mistakes I made was to put the fiddle yard tracks too close together, I see you've avoided that pitfall.
Only because I made exactly that mistake on Port Perran where the tracks were too close together to enable me to assemble trains easily.
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Post by: port perran on April 03, 2015, 04:27:06 PM
I'm currently working on another building for the Trepol Bay harbour area. This will be an old slightly rundown and whitewashed shipwright's warehouse. Should be completed in a couple of days.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 03, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
I'm currently working on another building for the Trepol Bay harbour area. This will be an old slightly rundown and whitewashed shipwright's warehouse. Should be completed in a couple of days.

Looking forward to that, Martin.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 04, 2015, 12:04:32 PM
Good afternoon, Martin, will there also be a preserved GWR loco. hauling a train of preserved GWR goods vehicles from Port Perran to Wadebridge via Trepol Bay, this Easter? If so, I do hope the photographers will be able to get a shot whilst the sun is out.
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Post by: port perran on April 09, 2015, 04:58:09 PM
There was a surprise arrival at Trepol bay this afternoon in the form of 7 newly restored wagons arriving from the Castle Estate depot at Cant Cove. The wagons arrived via Wadebridge behind a commendably clean Class 22  earlier this afternoon and made a fine sight for the handful of enthusiasts who had got wind of the special train and were able to get out to photograph it.
[Thanks to Chris in Prague for making such a good job of painting the wagons].
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
Thanks for the excellent news, Martin. I know you're very busy so look forward to the photos. in due course. The "Castle Estates" wagons and vans include examples of the new 15' stock for fast goods services that the company has recently invested in. They are mainly intended for long distance services via Wadebridge or Newquay to Bristol, Birmingham, London and beyond. However, the "Castle Estates" 15' open wagons are also intended for timber (logs and planks) traffic between the Castle Estates, Somerset, and the sawmill at Port Perran.
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Post by: port perran on April 09, 2015, 06:21:18 PM
I forgot to attach the photo to the last post so here goes :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1089_zpstvgnz29r.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1089_zpstvgnz29r.jpg.html)
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
Many thanks, Martin. The D63XX is indeed in immaculate condition; just keep it away from the washing plant at Plymouth Laira which was notorious for stripping off the paint in patches! The St. Bodmin crews have been ordered to ensure that the train heating boiler of their D63XXs do not 'vent' leaving nasty white stains down the loco's side. The crew of Penmayne's (sub-shedded) pair: D6313 and D6348, follow these instructions VERY carefully least they risk the wrath of Lady Penelope who insists all trains that run between Wadebridge and Penmayne are kept in similarly immaculate condition! (A special 'gentle' washing plant has been installed at Penmayne.)

The wagons from L to R, are: "Castle Brewery" 7-plank for tall loads of casks for local deliveries, Somerset "Sam's Cider" van, "Castle Estates" 15' 'Tube' wagon for timber (logs and planks) loads, "Castle Estates" 15' "Tarpaulin" wagon, again, for timber (logs and planks) loads, "Castle Estates" 15' 'Plate' wagon with "Castle Estates" container, "Castle Estates" 15' Insulated Van, and "Castle Estates" bogie steel mineral wagon for stone traffic from the Castle Estate's quarry to the stone cutters' at Port Perran. An impressive train, thought the Wadebridge yardmaster as he watched it depart for Trepol Bay.
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Post by: port perran on April 10, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
I've been working on the harbour area of Trepol Bay over the last few days.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1090_zps2uel3dso.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1090_zps2uel3dso.jpg.html)
I've made the last two major buildings for the industrial area. The chandlery and bonded warehouse. Both at the far end behind the crane. I have quite a bit of the cobbled area still to finish (probably the next job).
The eagle eyed will spot the Class 14 in the station with a short goods comprising three brewery wagons representing Sam's Cider (green), Castle Brewery (blue) and Headland Brwery (Black).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1092_zpstqrntkc4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1092_zpstqrntkc4.jpg.html)
Closer view of the chandlery  on the left and warehouse (right). Neither is completely finished yet. The ground area will be paved.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1093_zpsbhkjclqi.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1093_zpsbhkjclqi.jpg.html)
A general view. I've added a crude little lobster tank next to the fish processing/distribution warehouse.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1094_zpspswahnz9.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1094_zpspswahnz9.jpg.html)
A wider view of the main working area of the harbour. A ship in the water will eventually add to the scene as will a  painted backboard behind the two maroon carriages at station level.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1091_zpsgxdcwlli.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1091_zpsgxdcwlli.jpg.html)
No people , horses or cargo loads added yet and I've still to add a few trees/bushes and general scrubby vegetation. The one tree seen in some photos is merely propped in place so far.
Hopefully, it is beginning to take shape !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 10, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
Thanks for the excellent update photos. The latest buildings are looking very good with very nicely weathered roofs (always important in N Scale as they are so obvious when looking at a layout).

The Drewry 0-6-0 looks at home shunting the harbour lines.

The harbour wall is highly realistic; a real work of art.

The people, horses, and cargo loads along with the planned trees/bushes and general scrubby vegetation will add the finishing touches very nicely. (Not to mention my promised posters etc. which i will get into the post in time for them to be ready for you.) You really have made tremendous progress in a very short time. Highly impressive.

Nice to see that the supplies of ale and cider have arrived safely!

On a clear day, you can see Port Perran in the distance. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on April 10, 2015, 05:24:34 PM
Thanks Chris and Yes, that is Port Perran in the distance.
I hope to get a bit more work done over the next two days.
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Post by: Newportnobby on April 10, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Superb landscaping all round, Martin :thumbsup:
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Post by: port perran on April 24, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
Just built one of the small Metcalfe pillboxes for Trepol Bay and also made a small hillock by the canal to sit it on (when the grouting is dry) so that it has a view over the canal and into the harbour and out to sea.
I now have to make the harbour office and canal office.
As we've returned from holiday to cool conditions, cloud and drizzle, I have no excuse not to do a bit of modelling.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
Good to have you back, Martin. Hope you two had a great holiday. I look forward to your photo updates in due course.

(Whilst you've been away, the members CLPG and the GWS's Cornish branches have set off to Tyseley (via Claverdon) in two B Sets (!) for a tour of the BR WR Birmingham division with the GWS Birmingham Group before the WR Birmingham division sheds pass to LMR control and the ex-GWR locos. are replaced. The members will come back with a 3rd B Set in GWR livery restored by the GWS and a special present, to be revealed!)
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Post by: port perran on April 24, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Good to have you back, Martin. Hope you two had a great holiday. I look forward to your photo updates in due course.

(Whilst you've been away, the members CLPG and the GWS's Cornish branches have set off to Tyseley (via Claverdon) in two B Sets (!) for a tour of the BR WR Birmingham division with the GWS Birmingham Group before the WR Birmingham division sheds pass to LMR control and the ex-GWR locos. are replaced. The members will come back with a 3rd B Set in GWR livery restored by the GWS and a special present, to be revealed!)
Yes we had a fantastic time indeed. Even tried some Czech lager (from Prague) in the square in the old town in Malmo.
Hope the society members enjoy their trip to Birmingham. As a lad I visited the area on a 2 day trip (must have been 64/64) and took in Tysely, Saltely, Oxley, Leamington, Worcester, Banbury and Stourbridge sheds.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 24, 2015, 04:57:46 PM
That's good to read, Martin. I can only imagine how much a glass of Staropramen Czech lager (from Prague) must cost in the square in the old town in Malmo must cost!

I remember Tyseley (and went to several open days there) and Saltley but not Oxley or Leamington, Banbury and Stourbridge sheds. I did go round Worcester shed many times though.

The society members will be visiting Tyseley, Oxley, Leamington, Banbury and Stourbridge sheds with their hosts from the local group of the GWS. We are hoping for a photo. or two of their unusual train passing through Claverdon station. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on April 27, 2015, 06:18:24 PM
Since we returned from holiday, I've been able to do a bit more work on Trepol Bay so have added a few pictures here :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1214_zpshtyiji8n.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1214_zpshtyiji8n.jpg.html)
So.....I've added a small grassy hump and put a small Metcalfe Pill Box on top (I grassed over the roof to make it look more realistic). I've also built the Harbour/Canal Company Offices(the brick built building) and a small motor vehicle/engineering workshop (with the green door).The wall by the canal is only placed there at the moment so looks a bit higgeldy piggeldy.  I still have to add some detailing to the buildings.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1215_zpslanqscne.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1215_zpslanqscne.jpg.html)
I've added a small delivery platform on the harbourside so that goods can be unloaded from ships then transported away by lorry or rail. I bought a bag of 2nd hand huts (6 in all) at Helston Model Rail show on Saturday for a couple of quid. One is the green one on the harbourside. Not sure if I'll leave it green.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1217_zpssn8zuo4b.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1217_zpssn8zuo4b.jpg.html)
The two blue buildings are the Castle Estates regional office/store (courtesy of Chris in Prague). The small building in front of the pannier tank is the stable housing horses used on the canal and to haul wagons in the harbour area.
Ivatt 2-6-2T in the background on a local to Wadebridge.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1218_zpsbcckyx2y.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1218_zpsbcckyx2y.jpg.html)
An overall view of the West end of Trepol Bay. I still have to complete the road area where the Southern National bus has just dropped workers about to start the afternoon shift.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1219_zpszyhimpa3.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1219_zpszyhimpa3.jpg.html)
Close up of the harbourside loading platform.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1220_zps1pufgzah.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1220_zps1pufgzah.jpg.html)
I have now completed the paved area on the harbourside. I still need to add various small cranes and other dockside clutter.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1221_zpsvpt9vsue.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1221_zpsvpt9vsue.jpg.html)
Finally , another picture of the new buildings. The pannier is shunting the docks.
The grey road area neds to be detailed as do the buildings plus, of course, the wall has to be placed and the gaps filled in.
I still need to buy a few more trees (though not too many) to add a little greenery to the harbour plus I need to populate it with little people and other harbour clutter. The buildings still need to be glued down but first I need to drill small holes to eventually accommodate interior lighting from below.
Plus, the backboard is still to be added of course.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 27, 2015, 08:16:43 PM
Many thanks for the excellent photo. updates it is really coming on very well indeed. It's good to see a mix of close-up and overall views to put everything in context.

Is there room to move the "Castle Estates" office so that its back wall is parallel with the van body? At present it presents a blind wall to the road but if simply reversed the blind wall will face the harbour and the office manger and his assistant won't have a sea view! 8-(

The pillbox looks very good. I also plan to have one at one end of the coast and on a hill but a plastic kit.

The Southern National bus really looks at home. The eight-wheeled lorry looks like the type of road vehicle I was looking for to repaint in "Castle Estates" blue; what make is it, please?

Very nice to see the Ivatt with its two BR SR coaches setting off for Wadebridge. It should really have a van to be attached to a Wadebridge to Penmayne train though.

Do you have any sea gulls, yet?

The CLPG and GWS (Cornwall) members have safely arrived at Tyseley to begin their tour! Their unusual train was noted passing through Claverdon. By the time they return, Trepol Bay should be fully complete. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on April 27, 2015, 08:44:46 PM
Thanks for the comments Chris.
Yes, I'd already thought about moving the Castle Estates building/van bodyround. I will re-position them  tomorrow.
The 8 wheel lorry is from Oxford Diecast :
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/148/NFG003%20Foden%20FG%20Dropside%20Pickfords.html (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/148/NFG003%20Foden%20FG%20Dropside%20Pickfords.html)
As you will see, there is also a Blue Circle example in yellow.
The Ivatt does have a van but at the other end - I think typically though it would have been at the front of the 2 carriages.
No seagulls and no plans for any.
I have, this evening, added coal staithes and have ordered 2 small cranes from Langley models.
I trust that the CLPG and GWS have an enjoyable trip .
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 27, 2015, 09:00:19 PM
Thanks, Martin. The "Castle Estates" staff will enjoy being conveniently sited for the road whilst still enjoying a sea view, too!

When I was in the local DIY store, last week, buying aerosol paints for wagons and vans I saw two shades of gloss blue similar to the "Castle Estates" and "Castle Brewery" blues so may buy one of "Castle Estates" light blue to respray two of these excellent model lorries. Masking them up will be a VERY fiddly job though!

Yes, normally the van was at the front of the carriages and behind the loco. so that it could easily be shunted on and off the train. "Castle Estates", "Castle Brewery", both types of fish vans, even a horsebox (if guests are bringing their hunters to Trevelver Castle) could all be suitable as well as BR livery goods vans and BR SR CCTs working back to Wadebridge for onward transmission to London. Over the summer I will check my WTT.

I have some metal sea gulls which will be placed appropriately as one of the very last scenic tasks!

Yes, Trepol Bay is big enough to justify some coal staithes. (Normally, they were not seen in North Cornwall as wagons were unloaded direct onto coal merchant's lorries at the country stations.)

I also have some of the Langley cranes but have yet to decide which one to use at Cant Cove but  it will be one of the tasks once the platforms are placed.

The trip in the "B Sets" was a bit of an ordeal for the members of the CLPG and GWS but, thanks, they are enjoying the hospitality of the Birmingham branch of the GWS who they met at the Ester GW125 celebrations. Already through trains from the LMR and ER as well as various parts of the WR are being discussed for this summer.
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Post by: Newportnobby on April 27, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
Smashing pics, Martin. The layout is just getting better and better :thumbsup:
Small question, though.
How on earth do those rocks get between wagon and lorry (or vice versa)?
Methinks some form of crane is needed :hmmm:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 27, 2015, 09:58:01 PM
I have it on very good authority (the local "Castle Estates" manager from the harbour authorities) that cranes will indeed be provided for loading and unloading. The "Castle Estates" imports and exports various goods via Trepol Bay as well as Penmayne harbour.
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Post by: port perran on April 28, 2015, 07:27:39 AM
Smashing pics, Martin. The layout is just getting better and better :thumbsup:
Small question, though.
How on earth do those rocks get between wagon and lorry (or vice versa)?
Methinks some form of crane is needed :hmmm:
Ah...that crane is on order from Messrs Langley Models and will hopefully be delivered within the next week.
Until then, we have some VERY hefty harbour workers !
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Post by: port perran on April 28, 2015, 08:12:37 AM
Mrs PP is very kindly starting work on the backscene today. Hence, a trip to the art shop for some paint in a bit.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 28, 2015, 08:45:41 AM
You are a lucky man; I'm sure it will be a very fine backscene full of the atmosphere of North Cornwall.
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Post by: Paddy on April 28, 2015, 09:19:20 AM
Great photos Martin - there is so much atmosphere in them.

Paddy
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Post by: port perran on April 29, 2015, 09:08:18 AM
Following the unusual train carrying CLPG members through Claverdon recently, the intrepid Transport columnist for the North Cornwall Echo spotted (from a distance) this unusual train passing through Trepol Bay last evening :
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The hurried photograph was taken in poor light but it is clearly an unusual formation.
It is in fact the normal 5.22 departure from Wadebridge to Truro via Quintrell Downs East & West Junctions, Trepol Bay and Port Perran usually consisting of 2 green Mk1s plus a van and headed by a WR prarie tank.
Today, apparently, the prarie was declared a failure so the T9 (as lovingly restored by the CLPG) was hurriedly rostered by the shedmaster at Wadebridge. The only other loco available was an N class but that would be needed later for a Padstow train.
There was also a shortage of carriages at Wadebridge that day so a decision was taken to only include a single Mk1 (which was overcrowded to bulging and caused much grief to the guard). To compound the problems, the van was declared a failure with a hotbox so a blood and custard parcels carriage was utilised instead and hastily shunted into the formation. This carriage would have been used as part of the 7.45 parcels from Wadebridge to Padstow so alternative arrangements will have to be made then.
The cattle van was included (unusually)to convey top quality asparagus (the season having come early to N Cornwall) to London for use by top quality chefs in expensive restaurants. Normally, the asparagus is conveyed as part of the timetabled overnight perishables train but the early crop necessitated a quicker delivery to London.
The maroon horsebox was included to convey the 3 year old filly, Mercury, to a race meeting at Chepstow tomorrow. The filly is owned by Lord and Lady Trevallion and is expected to be "in the money" in the Bulmers Handicap Chace (bookies quoting only 2/1).  Lord & Lady Trevallion wre to have accompanied the horse in the carriage (going 1st class from Truro onwards) but declined to join the others in the over crowded carriage so took a taxt to Truro instead.
The milk van at the end is being conveyed empty to Truro (for onward movement to St Erth). It had been "forgotten" when the empty milk tank train ran down to St Erth earlier today.
All in all an interesting train movement.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 30, 2015, 07:10:03 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for that very interesting photo. of what is, indeed, a most unusual and highly colourful working.

I'm bidding for a BR Maroon standard horsebox to add to my BR SR Green one and pre-BR design one (which really should be in BE Crimson / Carmine but is in BR Bauxite instead!)
If my bid is successful, a BR Maroon horsebox can also be worked through to Penmayne or Cant Cove via Wadebridge where it would be taken off an arriving train and added to a departing one.

Is the Crimson & Cream BG a Lima or Graham Farish one?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on April 30, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
The BG is a short wheelbase Farish model.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on April 30, 2015, 09:04:43 PM
The BG is a short wheelbase Farish model.

Thanks, Martin. I only have one BR coach in crimson & cream: a "Blue Riband" WR Standard BSK. I'm tempted to add a BG like yours though.
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Post by: wookie on May 01, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
Glad to see it's all coming along nicely Martin.
I've made zero progress on Wookery in the last month, apart from starting to stick down figures on the street scene.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 02, 2015, 02:36:57 PM
Mrs PP has very kindly painted the backscene for Trepol Bay for me and a fine job she has made of it. Thanks you so much.
A couple of photos herewith :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1223_zpsb8ywpsan.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1223_zpsb8ywpsan.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1224_zpsevb6fsue.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1224_zpsevb6fsue.jpg.html)
Sorry about the lighting as it is very dull this afternoon here (raining in fact) and hardly any natural light is coming through the window. Nevertheless, I think the backscene really adds depth to the layout.
Meanwhile, I've been working on the area at the foot of the bridge (harbourside). I've added a bus stop (the bus drops harbour workers here) and a couple of lamps. Also added a coaling facility and water crane and the harbour office is now in place. Plus I've started to finish the roadways in the harbour and roughly placed a couple of trees. The one near the pill box will have a small circular wall around it.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1225_zpsxod5a1dd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1225_zpsxod5a1dd.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 02, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
The back scene is indeed very fine, Martin and makes a big difference. The extra work around the harbour area is making it look even better. The stone walls plus the grass, shrubs and trees add to the realism. The whole layout has really come along incredibly quickly and very well.

One small point: may I, on behalf of the local manager, ask, please, for the "Castle Estates" office to be rotated so the long blank rear wall is up against the side of the van body? That way the sign on the roof will be visible from the road and the office entrance will be at right angles to the road. (The staff will still be able to look out over the harbour.)The van body's alignment to the road is fine but might be good if you could move it a little away from the edge of the grassy hill to allow a gravel path along the side so staff can get to the doors for loading and unloading and a lorry or van can back up alongside, if required. (I have ordered two identical B-T Toys NP003 Foden DG 8 x 4 Flatbed lorries to be repainted by me in "Castle Estates" blue for local collections and deliveries and one will be on its way, this summer, to cover the Trepol Bay area. Normally, it will use the railway goods platform for loading and unloading.)
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Post by: Newportnobby on May 02, 2015, 09:09:22 PM
Smashing backscene, Martin. It brings everything neatly together :thumbsup:
(Well done, Mrs P-P)
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Post by: port perran on May 04, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Pretty much there with all of the basic scenic work on Trepol Bay now. Just waiting for the last bit of scatter material to dry so that I can vacuum up the loose bits plus I have one more tree to plant.
I'm then at the point of adding all the bits & bobs that hopefully will make it come alive. I have little people to buy  although I already have some plus Chris (in P) has kindly ordered some German examples for me. I have ordered a couple of shire horses for hauling wagons and barges and I already have a goodly supply of road vehicles.
I then need to add clutter - I have some harbour side bollards to add plus life belts and a one or two rowing boats to lay empty on the side. I have several chains/ropes/pipes to lay around and some loads etc plus a couple of small cranes to paint and install.
I also need to add several more coats of yacht varnish to the harbour area and the canal.
Finally, I have a small trawler to construct and paint and to put in place in the harbour.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on May 04, 2015, 04:40:30 PM

Finally, I have a small trawler to construct and paint and to put in place in the harbour.

Finally?!!
Surely you don't believe a layout is ever finished, Martin? ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2015, 04:59:25 PM

Finally, I have a small trawler to construct and paint and to put in place in the harbour.

Finally?!!
Surely you don't believe a layout is ever finished, Martin? ;)
Good point. I did , of course, forget to say that whilst I have most of the lights etc in place, none are connected up yet and I still have to add point motors but that's all for the future.
And Mick you are quite right, nothing is ever finished .................................
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2015, 07:51:26 PM
As my previous post suggests, the hard scenic work on Trepol Bay is now largely complete so I've added a few pictures of the scene so far :
First a general view across the harbour to the station above :
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The gap between the fish processing plant and the chandlers (right). I've added a small lobster pool just to the left of the tanker:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1227_zpsaaptqz8m.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1227_zpsaaptqz8m.jpg.html)
We have the Harbour Office left and small garage/workshop.The building bottom left is the stables for the heavy horses :
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A view across the canal to the main line at the higher level. The bus is dropping workers at the bus shelter. I've put a gate across the line immediately above the pill box :
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The local offices and store of the Castle Estates Co from Cant Cove :
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Aerial view showing the small locoshed behind the pannier :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1231_zpsfklq7qjn.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1231_zpsfklq7qjn.jpg.html)
View across the harbour to the main line. A class 25 is shunting empty stock. The grounded coach body is a cafe :
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The wagon repair workshop behind the small wagon turntable. I plan to put in a shire horse hauling a wagon here . The box van is in front of the Headland Brewery Distribution Depot :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1233_zpsoeenjpup.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1233_zpsoeenjpup.jpg.html)
A view along the harbour. I've still to add the bollards and general clutter on the harbour side :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1234_zpsjh92nj5p.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1234_zpsjh92nj5p.jpg.html)
Another view from above :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1236_zpszhw8c0ly.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1236_zpszhw8c0ly.jpg.html)
Across the canal with the lock (entrance to the harbour). The field behind the lock will be for the heavy horses when "off duty" :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1237_zpsrddxeatd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1237_zpsrddxeatd.jpg.html)
And finally.......my workbench which is actually the windowsill. You can see the general muddle I work in (I'm anything BUT tidy). The eagle eyed may spot 3 open wagons painted in teracotta livery ready for onward forwarding to Cant Cove. The lane outside is the former trackbed of the old Redruth & Chasewater Railway (closed 1915) :
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.........
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 04, 2015, 08:31:37 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for those excellent photos. It really is an incredibly good layout. And the manager of the "Castle Estates" local office is VERY happy with the new arrangements as is his assistant. They now await their ERF delivery / collection lorry and are now requesting a little van, too! Signage will follow, soon.

The single gate across the line is a nice feature as is the field for the horses. I also saw the ducks and the upturned boat. I would never have thought of a lobster tank.

If you're going to have any campers on the canal embankment, I can send you a tent! But you'd have to make them a camp fire (with flickering red light)?

I look forward to seeing the 'little people' in place in the harbour area and the holidaymakers on the station. With any luck you should receive them before the end of this week?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on May 05, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
super photos of an excellent layout, well done that man
 regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Paddy on May 05, 2015, 04:54:18 PM
Some more excellent photos - really looking good and such character.

Paddy
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 07, 2015, 08:14:26 PM
Just spent an hour or so painting some tiny dockside bollards, dockside cranes, a small hut,  lifebelts and a bicycle shelter (plus to cycles). Had to stop as the natural light is fading now.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 08, 2015, 12:52:51 PM
Looking forward to the photo. updates, in due course, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 08, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Earlier this afternoon, a special train of three newly painted (in terracotta livery) wagons left Trepol Bay headed for Cant Cove (via Wadebridge). The wagons are seen leaving behind Wadebridge's resident 08 shunter. An M7 is on-shed (resting between local duties) and on the bridge there is a tight squeeze with the SN single decker (having just delivered harbour workers to work) squeezing past a heavy lorry.
The resident harbour shunter is engaged in moving some wagons about including this interesting tank wagon.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1239_zpso1amwio4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1239_zpso1amwio4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 08, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent photo. and the three wagons. One of the matching pair is for Somerset; the other two for Cant Cove and Penmayne. Lady Penelope is having some renovation work done at Trevelver Castle so has placed a large order for dressed granite with the Port Perran stonecutters and finishers. The stone wagons will be taken forward from Wadebridge by the 13.40 (a), 13.45 (d) from Wadebridge mixed arriving at Penmayne at 13.59. Two wagons will be taken back to Cant Cove with their dressed granite loads on the next morning's 10.10 from Penmayne, arriving at Cant Cove at 10.18 which, after doing some shunting, departs at 10.36 for Wadebridge arriving at 10.42. It is timetabled for a 'N' but one never seems to be available at Penmayne . . . Of course, if Lady Penelope wants her dressed granite faster, a "Castle Estates" lorry will be sent to Penmayne to pick them up! (In the summer timetable they might be added to the 'Cant Cove Shuttle', two ancient BR SR Green non-gangwayed coaches hauled by a PP fitted 41XXX or whatever loco. is spare, which arrives at Penmayne at 14.58 and departs at 15.37 to arrive at Cant Cove at 15.41 before departing at 15.43 for Wadebridge at 15.50.)

Wadebridge has a couple of BR Standard 0-6-0 diesel-electric shunters but they don't venture beyond Wadebridge as the smaller diesel-mechanical shunters are preferred at Cant Cove and Penmayne.

That IS an interesting tank wagon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 08, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
That IS an interesting tank wagon.

Yes, not too sure what it is. Possibly a water tank wagon ?
I bought it 2nd hand at a show about 3 years ago for all of 20p !  The actual tank has been hand painted.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 08, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
It could be some kind of water tank for engineering use; maybe a weed-killing train?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 11, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
Started work on the small details of Trepol Bay such as dockside bollards and the dockside loading cranes (Langley Models) plus station seats, trucks and trolleys.
Alas, I need plenty of natural light for this type of fiddly detailed work so have stopped for the evening now.
Hopefully the little people etc will be fixed in place before too much longer.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 11, 2015, 09:50:31 PM
I look forward to seeing everything in place, Martin. I understand about the need for natural sunlight for painting those tiny details. Soon I hope to have  ago at repainting a spare set of German workmen as 1960s British trackworkers plus a couple of DB staff as BR staff (two 'Fat Controllers', in fact). I have some of those Langley cranes but they are still in their packets, not even spraypainted in undercoat.

Let me know if you need any more 'Little People' as I have plenty.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 16, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
The first of the "little people" are starting to be positioned now - a slow careful job which requires a bit of thought to make the scene look real.
Also been fitting a harness (made of thin string) to a heavy horse and then onto a white fish wagon so that the horse can be pulling the wagon along the quayside. A fiddle job which requires time for the glue to dry before moving on to each later stage.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on May 16, 2015, 01:31:18 PM
 :goggleeyes:
Rather you than me, Martin.
I've found that the plastic top off a Pringles tube makes a great shallow bath for dipping the little folks feet in.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 16, 2015, 05:18:15 PM
:goggleeyes:
Rather you than me, Martin.
I've found that the plastic top off a Pringles tube makes a great shallow bath for dipping the little folks feet in.
I use the green tops off plastic milk bottles in exactly the same way. Works well.
In fact I use those milk tops for mixing paint as well.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Vonk on May 16, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
oh no here is something else I have to start saving just in case it will be used on the layout.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 16, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
Don't worry, Vonk. I'll be happy to help. Trepol Bay has some lovely 'little people' some of whom arrived because I could envisage how perfectly they would be at home (and work) and could not resist sending them to North Cornwall! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 16, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
Don't worry, Vonk. I'll be happy to help. Trepol Bay has some lovely 'little people' some of whom arrived because I could envisage how perfectly they would be at home (and work) and could not resist sending them to North Cornwall! 8-)
Those little people are being carefully (fairly) positioned over the next few days. Hopefully, photographs will follow in due course but it may take a day or two. The plan is to have several little "cameo" scenes to make Trepol Bay come to life.
Thanks Chris for sending some of those people over from Prague.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 16, 2015, 10:22:13 PM
I'm really looking forward to those 'cameo scenes'. Take all the time required, Martin. The little people want to really feel 'at home' at Trepol Bay. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2015, 10:22:19 AM
A few more little people (plus a couple of horses) have had a paddle in the glue this morning and are now in place, including Harry Tremaine, the area manager for the Castle Estates who is on his way to work.
Barney, the heavy horse hauling a fish van in the harbour is also in place but currently weighed down with an oversize pair of tweezers to hold him firmly in place.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 10:58:09 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing the photos., in due course, Martin. I need to but a small pickup / delivery van for the "Castle Estates" offices at Trepol Bay and Cant Cove, to join the pair of lorries that will be .

I just bought a very reasonably priced pack of Noch accessories (alas, the P&P from Germany was higher than the cost of the item) which includes some bicycles. Once they're all painted a pair can be put on the next train to Trepol Bay for the workers in the harbour to leave outside the buildings, if there will room for them? I may have some spare crates, too, but they're easy enough to make from balsa wood as Mike did for his Pickfords' warehouse?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2015, 11:45:39 AM
Thanks Chris. I already have several P&D Marsh cycles. Indeed several are already in position including the obligatory one propped up outside the signal box.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Alas, I missed seeing the one outside the signalbox, Martin. It's these little details that make your layouts so attractive.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
A party of railway enthusiast photographers, currently, in the Birmingham WR Division area, is reported, after heading for Claverdon, to be on their way to Wadebridge where some will travel to Cant Cove and Penmayne whilst others will depart for Trepol Bay and Port Perran to search out good places to take pictures of this summer's GW125 program specials.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
Alas, I missed seeing the one outside the signalbox, Martin. It's these little details that make your layouts so attractive.
Ah, you didn't miss it. It's only just appeared .
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 12:13:32 PM
Thank you, Martin. I put it down to my urgent need for new lenses in my glasses! 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
So....a few pics of the latest updates to Trepol Bay. I seem to have spent ages on the tiny details but haven't got much to show for it really.Anyway.....
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So here we have Barney (led by Fred)hauling a van of fish away from the fish processing plant ready to be attached to a later train up to London.
Joe the carpenter at the wagon repair workshops has taken advantage of the good weather and has moved his trestle outside onto the wagon turntable.
Meanwhile one of the workers from the fish processing factory has popped outside for a fag break.
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Harry Tremaine the Regional Manager for the Castle Estates emire gives a cheery wave to his assistant Dave who is already at work (having propped his bicycle against the office wall. Harry has parked his brand new white Ford Anglia outside.
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One of the harbour workers takes a short break sitting on the harbour wall. The bollards are now in place and I sourced some very fine chain from a Charity Shop to add realism. The harbour crane is busy sorting oil drums ready for onward transportation.
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Two workers carry planks in the harbour. Pipes are ready for loading as are the straw bales (expertly made by Mrs PP).
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Close up of one of the yard cranes (I have to do something about that glue on the rope!). I've added a pipe and some valves etc to the oil storage tank.
I've also added a life belt in case someone falls in !
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And this is a job still to be done. Paint the boat and add the rigging/masts etc.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
Very nice work indeed, Martin. Well worth waiting for. I think, though, there are more figures to see?

Harry Tremaine the Regional Manager for the "Castle Estates" looks very pleased with himself. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 17, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
Very nice work indeed, Martin. Well worth waiting for. I think, though, there are more figures to see?
Harry Tremaine the Regional Manager for the "Castle Estates" looks very pleased with himself. 8-)
Thanks Chris. Yes, indeed, there are more figures to see and more for me to place. Plus, of course, the station is also being populated with passengers and staff.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
I can imagine how long such detailed work takes, Martin. The chain is a very nice extra detail.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 31, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
A new arrival to Trepol Bay and a long overdue one.
I recently purchased a 2nd hand unrebuilt Battle of Britain from Rails of Sheffield.  It arrived on Friday and I've just run it a few times and must say how pleased I am with it.
Just a few pictures of the new arrival :
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[/Just arrived at Trepol Bay station with a two coach (plus van) arrival from Wadebridge. As there are no turning facilities at Trepol Bay the locomotive will make a return working tender first. A very common occurrence in North Cornwalli]
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[/The locomotive plus van move the train forward prior to reversing into the bay to run around. The Ivatt 2-6-2T will need to depart firsti]
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Close up of the locomotive. It's an old model but I'm happy with it. Especially as they were common in North Cornwall well into the early 60s.  My main gripe is that the front bogie looks a bit odd but never mind. Running is good at both directions and at slow speed.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on May 31, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
Unless it's light engine the return working could be tricky as I can see no front coupling, Martin :worried:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2015, 05:44:11 PM
Many thanks for the very nice photos., Martin. Very nice to see 34065 (which did run in North Cornwall) in such immaculate condition. My identical 34065 has just moved up the DCC-fitting queue so that it may run 'through'. 8-) There are replacement metal bogie and detailing kits available. I have, in fact, kits for most of my Bulleid 'Light Pacifics' but don't have the technical skills to do the replacement work on those front bogies. Changing the numbers and replacing the nameplates with metal ones is as far as I'm thinking of going! However, I would also want to fit a front coupling for the reason NewportNobby mentions, such tender first working not being rare in North Cornwall. Fortunately, Penmayne does have a turntable so I can avoid that problem!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on May 31, 2015, 06:06:00 PM
Unless it's light engine the return working could be tricky as I can see no front coupling, Martin :worried:
You are quite correct Mick and well spotted.
I will see if I can get a replacement bogie which includes a front coupling.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Caz on May 31, 2015, 06:45:11 PM
Great pictures and I love those engines, brings back lots of happy memories of holidays, have one of the new version on order for Claywell.   :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
I only have three replacement N Loco 2364B Bulleid 4-6-2 Front Bogies. There is a warning on the pack that: "Locos fitted with this pack may not be able to negotiate 9'' radius curves. Removal of material on chassis and inside cylinders may be necessary." I also have various sets of detailing accessories which look rather easier to apply. How easy it would be to fit a front coupling to the existing front bogie let alone the replacement one I simply don't know, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2015, 07:26:14 PM
I'll take pictures of all the accessories, tomorrow. (I think I have enough to improve the first three of my five (needed for a Summer Weekend WTT) Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics after they are DCC-fitted. So far only 34064 "Fighter Command" (to be renumbered and renamed) has been done) but one of the two (the other to be renumbered and renamed) 34065 "Hurricane"s will be next.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Ensign Elliott on June 01, 2015, 08:48:31 AM

I will see if I can get a replacement bogie which includes a front coupling.

I managed to super glue a modified Peco rapido coupling to the front bogie of a compound many years ago to enable return running. Its still working fine.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Hailstone on June 01, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
I only have three replacement N Loco 2364B Bulleid 4-6-2 Front Bogies. There is a warning on the pack that: "Locos fitted with this pack may not be able to negotiate 9'' radius curves. Removal of material on chassis and inside cylinders may be necessary." I also have various sets of detailing accessories which look rather easier to apply. How easy it would be to fit a front coupling to the existing front bogie let alone the replacement one I simply don't know, I'm afraid.
I tried as an experiment to fit an N brass bogie to a rebuilt Merchant Navy recently as an experiment, borrowing the one I had successfully fitted to my Battle of Britain, but found that even with 15" radius curves the wheels would occasionally hit the combination lever/union link (the extra bits of valve gear attached to the crosshead) and derail the bogie - I haven't had much time this year to experiment further and will have another try later, but I definitely agree that anyone using set track points and 9" radius curves should stay with the Farish bogie if they want trouble free running.

Regards,

Alex   
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 01, 2015, 03:57:01 PM
Thanks everyone for the ideas re a front coupling for my BB.
I'm not one for fiddling with locomotives in any way so will probably leave the engine as it is.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2015, 04:06:39 PM
Thanks everyone for the ideas re a front coupling for my BB.
I'm not one for fiddling with locomotives in any way so will probably leave the engine as it is.
Thanks anyway.

Once I have gained more experience with kit-building model railway vehicles I amy try super-detailing one of my Bulleid "Light Pacifics". If I do, I'll detail and photograph the work on a separate thread but it won't be this summer, I think. Getting the front bogies replaced though is high on my list.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 01, 2015, 04:07:37 PM
I've been doing some more scenic work on Trepol Bay harbour over the last few days including completing (as best I could) the Langley Models trawler which is shown below :
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I managed to get some "ropes" attached to the boat and some bollards. Meanwhile, the pannier shunts the harbour lines in place of the usual diesel.
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Young Sid casts off as his Dad is about to set off to do a spot of fishing.
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Thought I'd raise this boat up on stilts for a bit of work to the hull. Unfortunately, the workers are idling their time away during a mid morning break.
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A rowing boat is waiting for the lock to empty so it can gain access to the harbour from the canal.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1278_zpsaytxpvte.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1278_zpsaytxpvte.jpg.html)
Oil drums being carefully loaded onto a lorry under the watchful eye of Dave Tremaine the yard foreman.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1280_zps6mrtwpiq.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1280_zps6mrtwpiq.jpg.html)
A better view of Sid and his Dad (I think)
I don't want to add too much more to the harbour for fear of making it too cluttered. Just waiting for a few more oil drums to arrive from Langley Models. 
Next job is to add several more layers of yacht varnish to both the harbour water and the canal to improve (hopefully) the look of the water. 
I also have a few more little folk to add around the canal.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Many thanks for those excellent photos. of your superb modelling. The 'little people' really add the finishing touch of realism. You have placed several of the sitting figures just as how I had pictured them when I ordered them for you. The boats are excellent and the bollards look fine, too. Ropes and chains make all the difference. The only 'quibble' I could find is the boat on the canal looks on a slant (but that may be an optical illusion)?

I agree, you shouldn't add too much more to the harbour for fear of making it too cluttered (and unrealistically busy!). A few more oil drums from Langley Models would be fine. Also, do you have the fish crates outside the fish shed? I couldn't see from th photos.; however, what looks fishboxes appear in a stick near then harbourside?

Yes, several more layers of yacht varnish to both the harbour water and the canal will make the water look even more realistic than it already does plus a few more little folk to add around the canal. I can send a tent if you have a pair of poor students holidaying in the area! 8-)
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Post by: port perran on June 01, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Many thanks Chris.
I do still have to add the fishboxes (I've got a few bits and bobs to add around the fish warehouse) and I've checked the small boat in the lock which looks fine so I guess the camera just makes it look slanted.
I need to finish the road outside the shops up at station level plus I need to add some more detailing around the station itself. Which reminds me that I should order so signal kits.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
I thought the 'slanted' boat might be an optical illusion, Martin.

You really have achieved an amazing amount in a short time. I'm still planning to complete, print and post the signs off this week but academic work keeps getting in the way. However, this Friday is the deadline and I aim to be finished before then!
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Post by: Caz on June 01, 2015, 09:48:22 PM
Fabulous stuff, just love all the little details.   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 01, 2015, 10:12:03 PM
I look forward to seeing your dustbins (a white metal pack of them) painted silver then weathered with matt black which will further add to the great realism. (I sent you the one for the "Castle Estates" office, I think.) More crates, pushbikes, and hand trolleys (a Noch accessories pack) will be on their way, later this week.
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Post by: Newportnobby on June 01, 2015, 10:40:38 PM
That is some cracking detailing, Martin :goggleeyes:
Top marks.
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Post by: port perran on June 15, 2015, 08:03:42 PM
Mito (of this parish) has very kindly made some wagon loads for a few forum members and I have now received the first lot for Trepol Bay and very happy I am with them. They are great little loads which fit nicely into a variety of wagons so have included a few pictures here so that others can see what he has achieved :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1290_zpsf5jwlrqb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1290_zpsf5jwlrqb.jpg.html)
First we have a very realistic looking coal load as seen above.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1289_zpsklchdkup.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1289_zpsklchdkup.jpg.html)
Here we have three realistic logs on a short wheelbase bolster wagon.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1288_zps1fimjr4q.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1288_zps1fimjr4q.jpg.html)
Some wooden poles.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1287_zpspl0vvaow.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1287_zpspl0vvaow.jpg.html)
A short train of various loads including some loose logs.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1286_zpsrwk0o7zh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1286_zpsrwk0o7zh.jpg.html)
Finally we have some finished wood on the back of a flatbed lorry (these loads also look perfectly at home in a wagon).
Many, many thanks to Mito for producing these loads and I hope others will agree that he has done a top job. Having realistic looking loads certainly adds to the atmosphere on any model railway.
Apologies if my pictures don't actually do his handiwork sufficient justice.
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Post by: Newportnobby on June 15, 2015, 08:24:24 PM
Excellent work from Mito and some great pics of his handiwork :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 15, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
Many thanks for these excellent photos., Martin. Mito's wagon loads really are excellent. I have been meaning to post pictures of the wagon loads he sent me in a selection of BR and "Castle Estates" wagons but simply have not, yet, had the time.
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Post by: johnlambert on June 15, 2015, 08:44:00 PM
Those loads are looking good, thanks for the photos.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 17, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
As promised a couple of photos. of the trawlermen and fishermen being painted ready for the harbour area at Trepol Bay:

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/Trawlermen%20and%20Fishermen%20beginning%20of%20painting%202015-06-12_zpskenhp6ri.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/Trawlermen%20and%20Fishermen%20beginning%20of%20painting%202015-06-12_zpskenhp6ri.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/Trawlermen%20and%20Fishermen%202015-06-17_zpsc7frvsgq.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/Trawlermen%20and%20Fishermen%202015-06-17_zpsc7frvsgq.jpg.html)

I've since painted their shoes and boots shiny black but need to give the gloss yellow another final coat and, using a cocktail stick, tidy up the edges around the flesh and other painted areas with gloss yellow and matt dark, medium blue.
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Post by: mika on June 18, 2015, 09:10:59 AM
Chris, very impressive work. It always amazes me how people can paint these tiny people. Fortunately, if I don't have ready painted ones, my wife comes to the rescue and paints them for me :D :P :-[ :thumbsup:

Fishermen BTW are a good idea for a harbour area. Might have to get hold of some. Where did you get them?

All the best
Michael
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 19, 2015, 03:49:38 PM
Thanks, Micheal. Being short-sighted I have excellent vision for close-up work. I need to put the finishing touches to the figures, including this set for Martin, today. (I will post more photos., afterwards.) They are: Langley Models A107 6 Assorted Trawlermen / fisherman figures. My set was, originally, bought for the (future) Penmayne harbour area but Martin's need is more immediate.

As I will have to paint a replacement set, I'm happy to paint a third set for you. (I much prefer batch painting; one colour after another.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 20, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
This afternoon, I've been making the corner sections for Trepol Bay which will shield the viewing area from the Fiddle Yard. This does mean that I can extend the scenery a bit and slightly increase the size of the harbour.
Oh.......I guess I might need another trawler now........
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 20, 2015, 04:47:29 PM
Seems like I need to order three more sets of trawlermen / fishermen, then? 8-)
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Post by: port perran on June 20, 2015, 08:06:57 PM
Just a couple of photos to show how I've boxed in the two sides of Trepol Bay to conceal the large fiddle yard behind :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1295_zps1av6yndj.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1295_zps1av6yndj.jpg.html)
This is to the right. I intend to continue the harbour wall around with a bit more harbour detail (warehouses etc)and the bit to the foreground will be water, with perhaps another trawler or two. And yes Chris, I may well need more yellow clad trawlermen.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1296_zps9dbpj9bg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1296_zps9dbpj9bg.jpg.html)
To the left, I shall continue the canal and the narrow gauge (Z Scale) railway line into the distance. My intention is to make another tunnel emerging above the canal so that an extension to the new Port Perrasn can continue across the canal and on to a new baseboard but that's for the future.
The two new bits of backboard will, of course, be painted but not in time for our first show but at least the fiddle yard is not now visible from the front.
Hope that makes sense ! Carpentry is not my favourite thing but it should all come together eventually.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 20, 2015, 09:06:03 PM
A very good start, Martin. I can envisage how it will look and it will be excellent, I'm sure. I'll be very happy to paint up some more sets of trawlermen & fishermen. I think on the lefthand side you'll have room for a small campsite? 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 20, 2015, 09:54:25 PM
A very good start, Martin. I can envisage how it will look and it will be excellent, I'm sure. I'll be very happy to paint up some more sets of trawlermen & fishermen. I think on the lefthand side you'll have room for a small campsite? 8-)
Maybe...I'll give that some thought.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 20, 2015, 09:56:53 PM
I have a spare tent, Martin, as I have too many for the camping ground at Cant Cove. I can also add a couple of sunbathing holidaymakers. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 21, 2015, 09:51:57 PM
I hear on the enthusiast grapevine, that the 'Fat Director' from BR's Plymouth District will be paying a surprise visit to Port Perran before the changes and then moving on to Trepol Bay. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on June 22, 2015, 07:40:22 PM
Very nice to see the add-on sections on both sides, Martin. This gives you great possibilities to develop the scenery. Looking forward to your progress which will no doubt be very inspiring.

As I will have to paint a replacement set, I'm happy to paint a third set for you. (I much prefer batch painting; one colour after another.)

Thanks, Chris. This would be very welcome.

Michael
 :NGF:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 22, 2015, 08:38:24 PM
Very nice to see the add-on sections on both sides, Martin. This gives you great possibilities to develop the scenery. Looking forward to your progress which will no doubt be very inspiring.
Thanks Michael. It may well be a few weeks before I can do any actual scenic work on those two side sections but I have some good ideas already. I'll probably start with the right hand side which is an extension to the harbour area itself.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 22, 2015, 10:07:14 PM
Very nice to see the add-on sections on both sides, Martin. This gives you great possibilities to develop the scenery. Looking forward to your progress which will no doubt be very inspiring.

As I will have to paint a replacement set, I'm happy to paint a third set for you. (I much prefer batch painting; one colour after another.)

Thanks, Chris. This would be very welcome.

Michael
 :NGF:

The trawlermen and fishermen for Trepol Bay are very nearly finished. I will post pictures, soon. I'll go ahead and order three sets then: 1) for you, Michael 2) one for a future Penmayne and 3) one 'spare'. It's much easier to paint three sets, together. 8-) I'll also have some spare 'little people' suitable for harbours.
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Post by: JasonBz on June 24, 2015, 01:56:22 AM
This is looking very nice :)

May I ask where the resin fishing boat in post #778 is sourced from?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on June 24, 2015, 07:27:36 AM
Hi Jason.
Thanks for your comment.
The boat is from Langley Models :
http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Boats__Ships__quayside_walls_etc_63.html (http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Boats__Ships__quayside_walls_etc_63.html)
Bit expensive I think but it does produce a nice model.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 07:37:54 AM
Thanks for the link, Martin. They have a very nice selection of boats plus harbour walls and a crane. When I build Penmayne and its harbour, I'm sure that I will use some of these model kits.
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Post by: JasonBz on June 24, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
Thanks for the link to the boat
A bit of head scratching and Google lead me to the firm that make the boats

http://www.artitecshop.com/en/ships/small-vessels/ (http://www.artitecshop.com/en/ships/small-vessels/)

They are Dutch but they do ship to the UK and are considerably cheaper than Langley.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 05:29:27 PM
Thanks for that. There are some very nice boats there. Unfortunately, I already have two Langley rowing boats.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 06:02:10 PM
As promised, the photos. of the completed trawlermen and fishermen plus the thinner of the two 'Fat Controllers':

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TRAWLERMEN%20amp%20FISHERMEN%20PLUS%202015-06-24%2009.24.00_zpsjs749snq.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TRAWLERMEN%20amp%20FISHERMEN%20PLUS%202015-06-24%2009.24.00_zpsjs749snq.jpg.html)

(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/chrisinprague/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TRAWLERMEN%20amp%20FISHERMEN%20PLUS%20%20-%20CLOSEUP%20-%202015-06-24%2009.24.22_zpsibukrkcx.jpg) (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/chrisinprague/media/RLY%20-%20MODEL%20-%20TRAWLERMEN%20amp%20FISHERMEN%20PLUS%20%20-%20CLOSEUP%20-%202015-06-24%2009.24.22_zpsibukrkcx.jpg.html)

I'm afraid the painting of the figures could have been better but I wanted to complete them quickly.
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Post by: port perran on June 24, 2015, 07:30:46 PM
Those figures look excellent thank you Chris and painted much better than I could.
I will post pictures once they arrive in Cornwall.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 08:15:10 PM
Than you, Martin. The matt medium and dark blue paint was easy to do as was the gloss black, the gloss yellow took three coats. (And I used Tamiya dark grey matt spray undercoat on them.) Although it does not look like it, the third figure does have a painted face and hands. The 'Fat Controller' has a thin transparent plastic base glued o his shoes so that he can visit Port Perran and Trepol Bay and inspect all the BR areas there! 8-)

It was a pleasure painting them and I will do three more sets. I look forward to seeing the trawlermen on their ship and the fishermen on the harbour area.
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Post by: port perran on June 28, 2015, 07:19:42 PM
As promised, a close up(ish) of some of the wooden loads produced by Brian (Mito) in Spain and shipped across to Trepol Bay. I think that Mito has done a very fine job and the loads look very much at home in the wagons and on the BRS lorry.
Many thanks Mito for your excellent work .
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1301_zpsgpkg3nxi.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1301_zpsgpkg3nxi.jpg.html)
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Post by: port perran on June 29, 2015, 08:16:51 PM
Won't be doing very much to Trepol Bay this week as I need to get things in order for its first outing at the West Cornwall show on Saturday. I need to sort out which locos/stock I'm taking as I don't really want to do what I've done with Port Perran in the past. That is, take everything. I want to be selective this time and take only enough locos / stock to run appropriate trains.
There may be a couple of surprise pictures as I've promised a couple of people that they can run their own locos/stock (some of which is kit built) on my layout.
I also need to clean the track and wheels.
With any luck (and a trailing wind) I may receive a few more dock workers and some yellow oilskin clad trawlermen in time for the show courtesy of Chris in Prague.
It was, I think, a forlorn hope that the Farish N Mogul would arrive in the shops in time.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 29, 2015, 08:27:52 PM
Sometimes the post can be surprisingly quick, Martin. So, I'll keep my fingers crossed that the parcel with the fishermen and yellow oilskin clad trawlermen plus other items, will arrive before Saturday, and can be added to Trepol Bay

I look forward to seeing the pictures of the surprise guests. Alas, I think the GF 'N' Mogul is likely to arrive next month, maybe even in August? (I have the money for mine sitting in my bank account.)

I think it's a very god idea to be selective and take only enough locos / stock to run appropriate BR SR trains. You already have a nice selection even without the N.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 01, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
Thanks largely to Chris (in Prague) there have been a few minor additions to Trepol Bay today. Chris has very kindly painted a few "wee folk" and supplied a few other bits and pieces.
First we have a couple of seamen added to the Trawler which is sitting in the harbour. Chris has expertly painted the figures from Langley Models blanks :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1320_zpslpadhmsb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1320_zpslpadhmsb.jpg.html)

Next we have a close-up of Arthur Penhaligan, the harbour master surveying the scene out to sea :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1321_zpsqapon3gg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1321_zpsqapon3gg.jpg.html)

Here we have a load of crated fish on a BR three wheel truck. The fish will soon be delivered to the Station Hotel :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1322_zpsqns1ljjl.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1322_zpsqns1ljjl.jpg.html)

It's a busy time in the harbour. Shunting is unusually being undertaken by an ex GW pannier (in place of the usual 04 diesel shunter). The Headland Brewery has been busy increasing it's output in order to cope with the expected increase in demand caused by the forthcoming GW-125 celebrations) :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1323_zpsbwgaiw4g.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1323_zpsbwgaiw4g.jpg.html)

Finally we see the "Fat Controller" from Plymouth who is spending a few days in North & West Cornwall overseeing arrangements for GW-125. He is critically watching the passage of a local goods :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1324_zpsdx52twfr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1324_zpsdx52twfr.jpg.html)
The jovial passenger on the platform raises his trilby to the guard of the goods train whose legs can just be seen in the toad brake van.  The important looking gent to the right of the Fat Controller is no doubt waiting for the next train and will, I'm sure, be looking for a first class compartment.
(Thanks for the figures Chris and for the fish crates/boxes and the dustbins - one of which you may have spotted in one of the pictures).
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Post by: Caz on July 01, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
Another load of great pics Martin with superb detail and a extra thank you to Chris for supplying those little extras.
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Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
Fabulous detailing - congrats to all concerned :claphappy:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 01, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of pictures, Martin. I'm delighted to see the 'Little People' looking so at home. The positioning of the trawlermen, the Harbour Master and, of course, the 'Fat Controller' from Plymouth District HQ, is particularly good, I think. Good to see the fish crates and one of the dustbins in place, too.

The two "Castle Estates" lorries are slowly progressing; one will be for Trepol Bay but, in view of its length, I think its driver will have to back down the road with his mate walking behind and to one side!

Having finally completed another rake of 3 "Castle Estates" LWB wagons to replace the ones sent to another railway, tomorrow I will photograph them with Mito's excellent timber loads, many of which have been stuck to clear plastic bases. Cotton 'ropes' have still to be added.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 01, 2015, 08:36:20 PM
Many thanks for the compliment but the superb setting is all Martin's excellent work. The trawlermen and the harbour master were painted by me whilst the 'Fat Controller' is a repainted Preiser DB figure. (His even stouter 'twin' can be seen at Cant Cove.) In order for their shoes / boots to show up in such a small scale I painted them gloss black rather than satin black. Being short-sighted, I have excellent close-up vision and really enjoy detailed painting. Where the area to be painted is very small I use the tip of a cocktail stick. All paints are Humbrol Enamels.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on July 02, 2015, 01:25:42 PM
Great work Martin and Chris.  I think I've said this before but looking at the photos you can practically hear the sounds of the sea, harbour and railway when you look at those pictures.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 03, 2015, 08:26:24 AM
Great work Martin and Chris.  I think I've said this before but looking at the photos you can practically hear the sounds of the sea, harbour and railway when you look at those pictures.
Now there's a thought............a recording of the sea lapping at the harbour wall with the distant sound of shunting locomotives and the clanking together of wagon buffers.
Hmmmm??????????????
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Post by: Jack on July 03, 2015, 09:07:35 AM
Great work Martin and Chris.  I think I've said this before but looking at the photos you can practically hear the sounds of the sea, harbour and railway when you look at those pictures.
Now there's a thought............a recording of the sea lapping at the harbour wall with the distant sound of shunting locomotives and the clanking together of wagon buffers.
Hmmmm??????????????

Could you have it ready for Carn Brea tomorrow?  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2015, 09:16:53 AM
There is an otherwise excellent 00 Gauge model of a North Cornwall layout, with some elements of Wadebridge, which is, for me, spoiled by an endless screeching of seagulls . . . however, the sound of waves lapping is very soothing. A separate MP3 of the sound of shunting locomotives and the clanking together of wagon buffers played as well would be excellent. Then add a separate MP3 of seagulls . . . (I know Martin doesn't want any seagulls at Trepol Bay but I've been spraypainting my metal ones (along with waterfowl) and other figures (as undercoat) in Tamiya matt white.)
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Post by: port perran on July 03, 2015, 05:20:19 PM
It's a long term possibility and thanks for the suggestion Chris.
And Jack, I'm afraid there will only be silence tomorrow.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2015, 05:33:03 PM
I think the viewers will be able to imagine the salty tang of the sea air and the sound of the waves lapping in the background with the sound of the trains coming and going.

Some Cornish voices talking inaudibly for the men working at Trepol Bay harbour would be good to add, later, too.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 03, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
I think the viewers will be able to imagine the salty tang of the sea air and the sound of the waves lapping in the background with the sound of the trains coming and going.

Some Cornish voices talking inaudibly for the men working at Trepol Bay harbour would be good to add, later, too.
Maybe I could just play "At the River" by Groove Armada !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2015, 08:58:56 PM
Or, better still: the long version of The Sea by Morcheeba (1997). 8-)
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Post by: port perran on July 04, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
At the West Cornwall Show today, I wasn't planning to buy anything but saw this and just had to buy it :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1345_zpsczdx2e4w.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1345_zpsczdx2e4w.jpg.html)
I've wanted one of these Peco Collett 0-6-0s for a very long time. Saw this one as new , boxed and in mint condition and at a very reasonable price.  Gave it a test run on Trepol Bay there and then and now it's part of my stud of locos.
Will give it an oil and a proper run in tomorrow but performed well today anyway.
Really pleased with it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
Many congratulations, Martin, on getting such a rare and very nice model for such a good price. The GWS (Port Perran branch) must be delighted with their new acquisition fresh from overhaul and repaint at Swindon Works by the look of her. The loco. will certainly attract much interest from local enthusiasts and visitors alike. In 1960, there were certainly none in the South West and Exmouth Junction's 'pet', 3205 did not arrive until December 1963 for snowplough duties, I believe.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 04, 2015, 08:18:15 PM
Thanks Chris. I very nearly missed it. The seller had quite a lot of N locos/stock on show and I nearly bought a very nice Standard 4  then at the last moment saw the Collett right at the back behind some other bits and bobs.
Couldn't afford the Standard 4 as well, I'm afraid - especially with the N Mogul imminent.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2015, 08:31:15 PM
What a stroke of luck, Martin. You can always buy a Standard 4MT 2-6-4T another time. John (Claverdon) has just bought a very nice one. I just wish someone would bring out a model of the BR Standard 4MT 75XXX 4-6-0s (Bachmann have one in 00 so, maybe, a N Gauge version can be expected?) as, in 1964, 75005, 75008, 75022, 75025 were the 4 shedded at Exmouth Junction (83D). All had BR2 3,500 tenders and carried BR lined green (so would look very elegant -- in real life they were too dirty for much livery to show!). The first 3 had double blast pipes and chimneys.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on July 04, 2015, 09:59:07 PM
 :envy: :jealous:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 04, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
:envy: :jealous:

Me, too! But I want one in BR livery as No. 3205.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2015, 03:10:28 PM
It is understood, via the enthusiast grapevine, that at last the CCLPG, Trepol Bay, have received news from Eastleigh Works of 'their' newly overhauled Class N 2-6-0, (allocated to Exmouth Junction), which is now expected to arrive at Trepol Bay, via Wadebridge, very soon. (It is understood that the agreement with BR SR is that, after BR has finished with the loco., it will pass on to the ownership of the CCLG who have agreed to keep it in its final BR livery.) Pictures are expected shortly!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 07, 2015, 09:16:43 PM
Amid some secrecy, the CLPG has announced the arrival of its N Class Mogul at Trepol Bay.The locomotive arrived earlier this evening :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1352_zpsd4urrisb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1352_zpsd4urrisb.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1353_zpswewxqhqf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1353_zpswewxqhqf.jpg.html)
It is seen here arriving and below in company with some typical North Cornish motive power :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1355_zpsokjzpa85.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1355_zpsokjzpa85.jpg.html)
(Apologies for poor quality photos - light is very poor this evening).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
Many thanks for those photos., Martin. What a lovely looking model it is. You must be very pleased. Alas, it is not an Exmouth Junction allocated number as 31811 was a Stewarts Lane then Guildford allocated example. Hattons have described mine as being 31831 in BR black with late crest and, until 1963, 31831 WAS allocated to Exmouth Junction. However, I've been told that Hattons are using the original running number, subsequently changed by Graham Farish. I will know when it gets to Scotland! A renumber to 31841 would seem to be the easiest solution for me.

Later, I may buy an Early Crest one, too, as 31844 WAS an Exmouth Junction one.

I await your detailed evaluation after you've had a chance to run it in. (Douglas at Wickness will do mine for me as part of his DCC-fitting service.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on July 07, 2015, 09:45:42 PM
No...it's the Dapol Ivatt. Lovely little loco. It's one of the new batch which I've had for a while.
I'm sure its been pictured before.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2015, 09:51:53 PM
I DEFINITELY need new lenses then, Martin. (A trip to the optician is scheduled soon.) Yes the Dapol Ivatts are also lovely little locos. My two (one P&P fitted, the other not) are from the first batch and cost a small fortune compared with buying them new from the new (and final, I've heard) batch which I did not know were coming at the time. Yes, I remember now that you've had your Ivatt for a while now and I think you have pictured it before.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 05, 2015, 09:11:41 PM
No progress on Trepol Bay now for several weeks due to visitors and holidays.
I will have little time now till September as we have more trips away to make and more visitors due.
In any case, I find a break away from modelling allows time for inspiration and allows me to return with renewed enthusiasm.
I have the two corner sections to complete plus I need to remodel the junction with the harbour line in order to make a physical connection with what will be the new Port Perran layout in due course.
Watch this space!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 05, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
I understand, Martin. I am sure that Cant Cove is better for having had plenty of time to 'mull things over'. I look forward to the photos., in the autumn, when Cant Cove will have been put away. 8-(
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 07, 2015, 09:01:27 PM
I realise that I have never posted a video of Trepol Bay so thought I'd have a go (Fingers Crossed).
Hopefully, we see a short sequence of my UM T9 passing through with a very mixed freight :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_video1_zpsojxntlib.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/video1_zpsojxntlib.mp4)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on August 07, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
Very nice Martin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Caz on August 08, 2015, 09:23:16 AM
Great to see in action at last.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on August 08, 2015, 02:20:42 PM
Dontcha just love the older freight trains with huge variations in the size/type of wagon? :D
It's what I remember most until the 'Freightliner' containers came along as what seemed to me to be the first 'block' train seen where I lived. I always remember being on a passenger train passing a freight in the opposite direction and the windows going dark/light as the different height trucks went by.
Nice one, Martin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 08, 2015, 05:48:14 PM
Very nice, Martin. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Michiel on August 10, 2015, 08:11:52 AM
I love the atmosphere on your layout. Great job! To bad that the track bed ballast went everywhere, except under the track. Maybe, if you have time and currage, to clean the roads (with pensil and vacuum cleaner), and reballast the tracks, and glue it? It would make a huge difference in my opinion. But nevertheless I really like the layout. Very well done!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 14, 2015, 04:10:44 PM
Having purchased a set of three folding tables from Lidl as suggested on this forum :
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=28913.msg320527#msg320527 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=28913.msg320527#msg320527)

This evening I am aiming to move Trepol Bay from its current base on folding Wallpaper trestles to the new Lidl tables.  This will allow Trepol Bay to be raised to a very much better viewing height at Exhibitions whilst still allowing me to have it at a comfortable height at home where the layout is housed in a room with a sloping roof so height of the layout is very much restricted.
We'll see how the move goes later .  The tables appear to be easily adjusted and they seem very sturdy despite being light so easily transportable.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
I hope that it all goes well, Martin. Sounds like it will be an improvement.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2015, 06:38:02 PM
I see that the 374-631 Graham Farish SR 50ft. Bogie B Luggage Van S204S BR (SR) Green has arrived at Kernow for £22.95. Will one be seen at Trepol Bay, soon? (I think mine will arrive after Cant Cove has had to have been put away, alas.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 14, 2015, 07:56:24 PM
I see that the 374-631 Graham Farish SR 50ft. Bogie B Luggage Van S204S BR (SR) Green has arrived at Kernow for £22.95. Will one be seen at Trepol Bay, soon? (I think mine will arrive after Cant Cove has had to have been put away, alas.)
I was tempted to call in for one today but my schedule today didn't allow it. Maybe next week when I'm passing.
Switching tables went smoother than expected and is an improvement.
One of the problems associated with a cottage over 200 years old is that the floor is anything but level! It was always a problem previously but the new tables are easier to level.
I now have renewed enthusiasm to tackle the scenic corner portions which remain bare wood at the moment.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2015, 07:59:53 PM
I'm delighted that you now have renewed enthusiasm to tackle the scenic corner portions, Martin, as I'm sure you'll do an excellent job.

I look forward to seeing the Bogie B van in due course, then. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 14, 2015, 09:43:24 PM
Just to prove that everything is now back up and running well (with the layout now sitting on its new Lidl tables), here is a short video of a pair panniers passing Trepol Bay with a milk train from Wadebridge :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1503_zpsk00qsffj.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1503_zpsk00qsffj.mp4)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on August 14, 2015, 10:00:03 PM
Phew. Glad the transition went OK, Martin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 14, 2015, 10:52:15 PM
Very glad all is running well, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 17, 2015, 05:13:15 PM
New arrival today in the Trepol Bay area is the new GF SR Luggage Van.
Seen here in a parcel train formation hauled by an Ivatt 2-6-2T :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1504%203_zps9pjiovsr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1504%203_zps9pjiovsr.jpg.html)
And a closer view. Note the signalman's bicycle by the signal box :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1505_zpswg9jlw5d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1505_zpswg9jlw5d.jpg.html)

I've also slightly modified my Fiddle Yard today so that I can have a total of 17 separate trains ready to run at any one time (one after the other). This enables me to run a variety of separate trains - each one will return to its siding allowing the next train to emerge :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1506%202_zpskc2jfzyd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1506%202_zpskc2jfzyd.jpg.html)
The nine lines in the centre are merely for storing stock.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 17, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
Thanks for the latest photos., Martin. I'm glad to see that you now also have a BR SR Bogie Van B. (You can see mine passing through Cant Cove.) Unfortunately, due to a mix-up, I now have an unwanted duplicate brand new BR SR Bogie Van B in BR SR Green. (If anyone is interested, please, PM me, Chris.)

That is a very impressive collection of sidings and stock.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on August 17, 2015, 08:12:07 PM
That looks like a nice arrangement for short trains Martin
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 17, 2015, 09:14:15 PM
That looks like a nice arrangement for short trains Martin
Yes, works well for me. The most I run is a four coach passenger train (usual 3 carriages only though) and goods trains of max 12 wagons.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
The second Bogie Van B (for Trepol Bay) with its newspapers and mail plus the BR Standard BCK is taken off the 01.25 (ex-Waterloo) at Wadebridge at 09.13 and a BR Standard SK added for the service to Trepol Bay. The returning Van B from Trepol Bay, plus the one from Penmayne, are then taken to Exeter in the "Perishables" for onward travel to Waterloo. The "Perishables" arrives at Wadebridge at 15.22 and departs at 15.32 with fresh produce in box vans and fresh meat in insulated containers in Conflats marshalled after a Maunsell BSK and a BCK from Penmayne. So the Fat Controller is insisting that ex-Trepol Bay Van B plus any van(s) and Conflat(s) have to be at Wadebridge before 15.22. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2015, 09:45:25 AM
Made a brief start on one of my (two)corner extensions to the scenic area this morning.
The idea is to finish off the edges of the layout to make it visually more interesting.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1509_zpssjebxhup.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1509_zpssjebxhup.jpg.html)
The existing harbour wall will be extended around the raised section and (as can be seen), I've made a start on what will be a fairly steep cliff drop into the sea and onto the harbour area.
The section of retaining wall (painted) will go behind the two warehouses as a continuation of the tunnel frontage over the station track.
All will become clearer in due course.
I also want to buy another Langley Trawler to sit in the sea (which will be quite an extensive area where the paint brush is) entering the harbour.
I may also add a small island (I'll wait to see how it looks later).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on August 18, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
The idea is to finish off the edges of the layout to make it visually more interesting.

So it's going to be a nudist colony then?  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2015, 10:38:57 AM
The idea is to finish off the edges of the layout to make it visually more interesting.

So it's going to be a nudist colony then?  :D
Ah......now there's a thought.
Best not make the bracken too prickly then.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
Mike, I have planned to have a naturist beach at Cant Cove (I have a set of N Scale figures) but have not decided where to locate it so that they have some privacy!

So, Martin, should I order three more sets of those trawlermen figures? (One for you, one for me, and one for another NGF member who admired the ones on your first trawler?)

Do you already have a timber merchant's?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 19, 2015, 07:54:39 AM
Hang fire on the trawlermen for now Chris, it's not definite about the extra boat yet. I'll decide once the scenery is finished.
I have a wood yard on Port Perran but not on Trepol Bay (nor a timber merchant).
However, the new Port Perran (yet to be started) will probably have a combined timber yard/merchant but that's a way into the future.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 19, 2015, 08:43:30 AM
Thanks, Martin. It would have been a while before I would be able to paint the figures as I want to continue working on Cant Cove plus I need to finish the two ex-LNER Extra Long CCTs I'm making with John. However, as you know, I like to work on 'batches' so I amy still order three packs, later and paint them.

I saw various timber loads around the harbour at Port Perran and it would be likely that timber would be imported there so that's why I asked about a timber merchant. The two "Castle Estates" lorries also have removable timber loads. I'm also going to make some single and double bolster timber wagons, some in BR Bauxite, some in "Castle Estates" blue, for Brian (Mito) and others, later this year.

A small island (a rocky outcrop) on the harbour extension might look good with a warning light on it. I can also make two mermaids and the second could recline on your rock like mine will on Mermaid Rock near Cant Cove! 8-)

It's still raining here; not a good start to our holidays, unfortunately. Still, we'll be off, soon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 19, 2015, 07:56:57 PM
Ah the wood loads come to or from Port Perran and are either transported by road or train depending on quantity.
I'm not sure  about the island yet so again, hang fire on a mermaid.
Have a good holiday.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 24, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
We have my 7.5 year old grandson staying for a few days.
First time he's actually seen a model railway set up.
We have all sorts of things planned, fishing, crabbing, kite flying, museums etc. Can't get him away from the railway !
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1512_zpsteaqf3ud.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1512_zpsteaqf3ud.jpg.html)
To start with we had a trip over the wires pulling them out from the rear of the controller. Then points set in all directions but gradually a degree of control is being achieved. The little folk in the carriages had to get used to 0-60mph acceleration in 0.1 seconds and emergency stops at stations but Murray is quickly learning a lot and starting to understand how it all works and that you can run trains at sensible speeds.
Think his Mum & Dad may have a hard time resisting his requests for a train set at Christmas.
Great fun.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Jack on August 24, 2015, 07:40:19 PM
Nice recruiting job! With you being a newly retired Driving Instructor you will have at least have some nerves left over to cope with the 0-60s and dead stops, as for your poor passengers.....

Hope all goes well for the coming weekend at Hayle, although I notice that Mrs PP is showing a layout called "No Name", that is according to the club website.  :confused1:  ;D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on August 24, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
That's the way, get 'em started young.
Didn't work with my kids though  :(
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 25, 2015, 08:32:27 AM
Nice recruiting job! With you being a newly retired Driving Instructor you will have at least have some nerves left over to cope with the 0-60s and dead stops, as for your poor passengers.....

Hope all goes well for the coming weekend at Hayle, although I notice that Mrs PP is showing a layout called "No Name", that is according to the club website.  :confused1:  ;D
I'm more nervous about my new N hurtling towards the buffers at 60mph than sitting with the very worst driver !
Yes Mrs PP will be at Hayle with Descanso Farm. Resplendent with it's new greenhouse .
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on August 30, 2015, 08:32:08 PM
Just a couple of shots of Trepol Bay taken at Hayle Show today and from an angle which is not easy to achieve at home :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1543_zpsvkqpn5if.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1543_zpsvkqpn5if.jpg.html)
First we see the Union Mills T9 at the head of a demonstration SR freight (note the SR brake van courtesy of Chris in Prague).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1544_zpslxxqyuj0.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1544_zpslxxqyuj0.jpg.html)
And a pair of ex GW tank locos (prarie and pannier) at the head of a train of cattle vans containing Cornish broccoli.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 30, 2015, 10:16:07 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for those excellent photos. which are indeed from an unusual viewpoint. I'm delighted that the SR livery Pillbox brake van arrived in time for the show. When mine arrives, plus my new SR Furniture container plus grey Conflat, I'll be able to photograph a very similar demonstration SR goods train but hauled by a BR livery ex-SR loco. (my 'N').
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 31, 2015, 09:42:00 PM
The sales efforts of the "Castle Estates" office staff at Trepol Bay Harbour over the previous months have resulted in enough local customers for the company to send one of its old but reliable (and well-maintained) Foden DG 8 x 4 Flatbed lorries to be based there. I think the staff will be enjoying a few beers in the "Station Hotel" when it arrives! 8-) A cab roofboard has still to be supplied as well as the transfers for the bodyside.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 01, 2015, 08:04:35 AM
The sales efforts of the "Castle Estates" office staff at Trepol Bay Harbour over the previous months have resulted in enough local customers for the company to send one of its old but reliable (and well-maintained) Foden DG 8 x 4 Flatbed lorries to be based there. I think the staff will be enjoying a few beers in the "Station Hotel" when it arrives! 8-) A cab roofboard has still to be supplies as well as the transfers for the bodyside.
Thanks Chris. No doubt there will be a picture in due course.
Trepol Bay still has to be reassembled here after the Hayle Show at the weekend !
It was good at the show to be able to set it up on a level floor. The floor in our ancient cottage here is anything but level and hence it takes me ages to get the layout reasonably so.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2015, 08:39:24 AM
Now, the office manager wants a small van!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 01, 2015, 10:43:54 AM
Now, the office manager wants a small van!
He's OK at the moment - if you remember he has a grey and white Ford Anglia supplied by the company.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Ah, yes; it must have been his assistant who was trying to get a van for small local deliveries (as well as personal use in the evenings; he is courting one of the barmaids in the "Station Hotel"!).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
The Castle Estates Company based at Cant Cove has had a small regional office at Trepol Bay for some time. The company has recently won the contract to transport wooden pilings from Trepol Bay harbour to the local canal where they will be used in the restoration of the canal by local volunteers.
We see the very first lorry load of pilings leaving Trepol Bay on the back of a new flatbed lorry in blue Castle Estates livery. Unfortunately, the local manager, who was a little late for work this morning (possibly due to one too many ales in the Station Hotel last evening) has parked his company car in the way and the driver of the lorry is waiting for him to move it.
Meanwhile an ex GW conflat and furniture container is awaiting collection by the local 04 shunter which will deliver it to Trepol Bay station for attachment to an ongoing freight.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1548_zpsby7lsvjg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1548_zpsby7lsvjg.jpg.html)
[Many Thanks to Chris in Prague for the lorry and the excellent paint job]
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2015, 12:25:18 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for the excellent photo. "Castle Estates"management was rather cincerned about the length of rhe lorry but thought it was best suited to the work at Trepol Bay. The GWS at Bodmin has been gifted a GWR livery furniture container and Conflat for their popular femonstration GWR goods train and are awaiting delivery, expected next week. The train is nect expected to run at Christmas.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 05, 2015, 07:59:56 PM
Just to cheer up Chris in hospital a few photos from this evening's running session on Trepol Bay. Just to reassure you Chris that trains are indeed still running in North Cornwall.
The local transport reporter from the Western Morning News has been out and about in the area around Trepol Bay station recording activity this evening over an hour or so :
First our intrepid photographer climbed the hill above the station to record the specially restored (by the CLPG) Collett 0-6-0 arriving at the station with a horse race special heading towards Truro and hence into Devon for tomorrow's meet at Newton Abbot racecourse. The train contains thoroughbreds from the area together with owners and jockeys. A Battle of Britain waits in Platform 2 with a train for Wadebridge whilst an M7 simmers in the yard :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1549_zpsuyshwcrc.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1549_zpsuyshwcrc.jpg.html)
Shortly afterwards we see an N mogul heading for Wadebridge and beyond to Exeter with a train of SR stock which originated at Truro . An 04 shunter is busy in the port sidings with a china clay train :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1550_zpsoitwla9h.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1550_zpsoitwla9h.jpg.html)
Later we see an Ivatt 2-6-2T entering Trepol Bay from Wadebridge with a parcels train. The 08 in the harbour is busy shunting wagons from a recently arrived freight :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1551_zpsoosf4bwu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1551_zpsoosf4bwu.jpg.html)
The Battle of Britain 4-6-2 leaves for Wadebridge with a Padstow bound train whilst an ex GW pannier (again restored by the CLPG) simmers in the station with a short train of milk empties eventually bound for St Erth :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1552_zpsj9enhqpm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1552_zpsj9enhqpm.jpg.html)
Finally, our photographer made his way to the far side of the canal to photograph an unusual working. We see an ex GW railcar arriving with a local from North Cornwall. Control has taken the opportunity to add an empty fish van to the railcar to save a path later. The fish van will be shunted down to the harbour later to be loaded with today's catch :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1553_zpsoxrlvzzu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1553_zpsoxrlvzzu.jpg.html)
A hectic hour or so at Trepol Bay !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2015, 08:19:03 AM
Many thanks,  Martin for these excellent photos from Trepol Bay. It is good to see that the trains are still busy running in North Cornwall. I have had enough of hospital and can't wait to get back home! Discussion amongst the local rail fans at Penmayne and Cant Cove centres around which locos. can be expected for the planned Christmas Specials. With the CLPG at Trepol Bay having already preserved a T9, a 700 Black Motor and a M7, there is much debate about which of these three the CLPG AT Penmayne and Cant Cove will be given from the results of the summer fundraising and local sponsorship. A T9 in BR Black seems to be the consensus but a M7 is also highly favoured. Bulleid light  pacific "Spitfire" is also strongly rumoured to be scheduled a full overhaul at Eastleigh before Christmas. Meanwhile, it has been noted that the GWS Bodmin has sent both its GWR livery tank locos., a 57XX and a 61XX to Swindon for overhaul. Will they have enough cash left to buy a GWR livery 45XX, too?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
Of course the Trepol Bay and Port Perran branches of the GWS also have a Collett 0-6-0 newly restored and painted and there are strong rumours that a Dean Goods is to be added to the ranks although this is still to be finally confirmed.
There is also a reasonable possibility that one of the Grange class (possibly specially cleaned by members of either the GWS or CLPG) based at Penzance or Truro may, in future, be allocated to services between Truro and Port Perran (via Chacewater) and on to Trepol Bay, and the Wadebridge area (including Cant Cove).  Currently this service is usually in the hands of a 45XX or a Manor Class.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
Three containers have just been delivered (on conflats) to Trepol Bay having been bought by the local fruit & veg wholesaler to enable them to deliver (by rail) further afield. The containers are seen (in grey undercoat) being propelled down to the small wagon works at Trepol Bay ready for painting into the green livery of the wholesaler.
The wagons are halted outside of the premises of the Headland Brewery whilst space is cleared at the wagon works next door :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1554_zps0mfuapzk.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1554_zps0mfuapzk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
Many thanks for this latest photo. update,  Martin. The containers are rewuired for traffic to Cant Cove and Penmayne as well as the BR WR Birmingham area through Claverdon;  fresh Cornish vegetables and fruit being much appreciated. Both Trevelver Castle and "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove having signed long-term supply contracts with Trepol Bay's fruit and vegetable wholesale company. The containers on their Conflats will exchange trains at Wadebridge and will thus be regular sight on serviced to Penmayne with the wagon tripped back to Cant Cove in the daily goods train.
Dedpite the new concrete sleepered CWR recently laid by the WR through Cant Cove station the line still cannot take anything larger than a Manor class amongst WR locos. do any Granges will have to come off at Bodmin Road, much to the disappoimtment of local enthusiasts. However, Lord Trevelver is optimistic that, with a little more investment, and subject to speed restrictions, Granges may reach Wadebridge from Port Perran in the near future. Meanwhile debate continues as to what loco. to preserve next to ensure that there are new attractions at Christmas!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 06, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
Many thanks for this latest photo. update,  Martin. The containers are rewuired for traffic to Cant Cove and Penmayne as well as the BR WR Birmingham area through Claverdon;  fresh Cornish vegetables and fruit being much appreciated. Both Trevelver Castle and "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove having signed long-term supply contracts with Trepol Bay's fruit and vegetable wholesale company. The containers on their Conflats will exchange trains at Wadebridge and will thus be regular sight on serviced to Penmayne with the wagon tripped back to Cant Cove in the daily goods train.
Dedpite the new concrete sleepered CWR recently laid by the WR through Cant Cove station the line still cannot take anything larger than a Manor class amongst WR locos. do any Granges will have to come off at Bodmin Road, much to the disappoimtment of local enthusiasts. However, Lord Trevelver is optimistic that, with a little more investment, and subject to speed restrictions, Granges may reach Wadebridge from Port Perran in the near future. Meanwhile debate continues as to what loco. to preserve next to ensure that there are new attractions at Christmas!
It is very much hoped that a picture can be obtained in a few days of the freshly painted containers leaving the wagon works and maybe even on their inaugural trip to Cant Cove and to the Midlands.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2015, 10:40:26 AM
Looking forward to those photos., Martin and John. To retutn to the subject of horseboxes the GWR livery and BR Crimson ones should soon to be arriving at Port Perran and Trepol Bay as well as Cant Cove and some more will later be seen passing through Claverdon.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on September 06, 2015, 12:59:10 PM
Nice photos Martin, keep them coming  :D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 11, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
Have had a bit of a running session this evening so herewith (just to bore everyone) a couple of short videos :
First we have a Class 700 SR 0-6-0 running towards Wadebridge (bound for Cant Cove) with a train of assorted empty Castle Estate wagons :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1562_zpsuyhhmg3g.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1562_zpsuyhhmg3g.mp4)
Next we have a prarie and pannier double heading a short train of sand (the van contains bagged sand. The train was worked up to the main line from the harbour by the resident Class 04 diesel and is being taken to a holding siding on the Truro side of the station. In a few days it is expected that a further train of three freshly painted containers will be added to the sand wagons and worked over to Cant Cove as a special delivery :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1563_zpsxcgdgvk5.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1563_zpsxcgdgvk5.mp4)
The eagle eyed will have spotted the two poor trawlermen in video 2 who should be on the trawler NOT wallowing in some distress in the water !  Oops !
Finally we see a Class 22 (D63XX) diesel working through from Truro with a train of logs bound for the sawmills beyond Wadebridge :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1566_zpsyt4zja7h.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1566_zpsyt4zja7h.mp4)
Apologies for the video quality and the speed of the locos in the first two which is a bit over scale speed I'm afraid. Will try to do better next time !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on September 11, 2015, 09:08:30 PM
Thanks for the videos, Martin. Not boring at all.
It's a lovely layout you have.

Michael
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 11, 2015, 09:22:38 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for the videos which are very much appreciated. As are the use of the "Castle Estates" wagons and "Castle Brewery" van.

I didn't get anything done today as, after returning from the hospital checkup and further treatment, visiting my GP, the bank, the post office and shopping, when I came home I fell asleep for most of the afternoon! (However, yesterday, I was out, mainly teaching, from 07:30 to 21:30). I hope to do more this weekend, including showing the same train of "Castle Estates" wagons and "Castle Brewery" van arriving at Cant Cove.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: lil chris on September 12, 2015, 12:34:53 AM
Nice to see the videos, the docks area looks very good and plenty going on.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on September 12, 2015, 10:28:51 AM
Dontcha just love seeing trains appear from/disappear into tunnels :heart2:
Great little vids, Martin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 12, 2015, 07:52:17 PM
We walked the 3 miles or so into Redruth to attend the Cornish Pasty Festival today and enjoyed a couple of excellent Pasties.
We also sat through and excellent demonstration of pasty making by TV chef James Strawbridge (son of Dick Strawbridge) who runs the Posh Pasty Company.
An excellent couple of hours then a nice stroll home again in lovely weather.
So.....let's step back a few years and we see a new Bubble Car running into Trepol Bay with the Cornish Pasty Shuttle , run four times today between the stations in North Cornwall and Redruth (and return) taking hungry folk to the Pasty Festival :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1567_zpsxj03gsxv.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1567_zpsxj03gsxv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 12, 2015, 08:03:22 PM
Thanks for another excellent photo., Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2015, 10:47:47 AM
Rubbish weather here today so it's some work on Trepol Bay.  Haven't done much scenic wise over the Summer months.
My plan of action for the coming weeks is :
Today - doing some scenic work on the right hand corner (extending the harbour section).  That will include building another portion of harbour wall. Plus, I have some containers to paint for Chris.
Over the coming weeks :
Fit and wire up all the street lights and interior lights for the buildings.  Some lights are already in place and all buildings already have access points drilled for the lighting.
Fit and wire up the few point motors that are needed (holes are already predrilled).
Start work on the left hand corner section. This will include accommodating the awkward extension to the proposed new Port Perran . The first bit of this will be to commence the viaduct over the canal and estuary that will link to the new baseboard.   
Once all that is done I can begin to think about starting the new Port Perran layout.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2015, 11:48:17 AM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I'm very interested in seeing this work as it progresses as I'm sure I can pick up some good tips. I will also be (helping with the) wiring up of my buildings and lamps.

The Conflat containers will be in the dark green livery of Messrs Prisk & Jones (Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay, suppliers of fresh fruit and vegetables to Cant Cove, Penmayne, and the BR WR Birmingham area and are eagerly awaited due to the growing demand for fresh Cornish produce.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on September 14, 2015, 12:14:01 PM
Finally we see a Class 22 (D63XX) diesel working through from Truro with a train of logs bound for the sawmills beyond Wadebridge :
Finally a proper engine :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2015, 04:56:54 PM
Made a bit of progress on the corner section today. This bit (about 18 inches square) is completely removable but it helps to hide the fiddle yard.
First I extended the pilings along the front of the harbour wall :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1569_zpsrh3szzzo.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1569_zpsrh3szzzo.jpg.html)
Then a bit of paint and scatter material. I've also done a bit more to the cliffs above the sea adding more scatter material and added a very small bit of sand in the corner. The sea is the very first (rough) coat but I couldn't complete it as I ran out of paint ! It will require a couple more coats of paint and then several layers of yacht varnish. The harbour walls need a bit of tidying once everything is dry and I'll fill in any "gaps" in the grass later :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1572_zpspcirk6tg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1572_zpspcirk6tg.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: JasonBz on September 14, 2015, 05:00:06 PM
I like that :)
The sea already seems to have the colouring and wave form of a harbour on a slightly breezy day
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 14, 2015, 05:02:20 PM
I like that :)
The sea already seems to have the colouring and wave form of a harbour on a slightly breezy day
Yes, that's the idea. It's just acryllic applied thickly and roughly.  Future layers will be much smoother but it should keep the sliightly rough effect.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 14, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
Already looking very good, Martin. I am amazed at your speed of progress. I spend much longer and achieve far less. (However, I do try to do things on a 'batch principle' rather than an area one. And the area I'm working on now, I keep adjusting my plans to make the best use of the very limited space in and around the station yard.) It will be MANY months before Cant Cove looks as good as Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on September 15, 2015, 09:52:24 PM
Nice bit of work Martin.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 18, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
I know several others have tried Black & White photography on their layouts but this is a first for me. Thought I'd try it to see how it looked.
We see a Collett 0-6-0 with a Horse Race Special passing through Trepol Bay earlier today :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/BampW1_zpswpyhzttm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/BampW1_zpswpyhzttm.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 18, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
A very nice photo., Martin. There should be a GWR livery (Lima) horsebox on its way to Trepol Bay, very soon. Eventually, also a BR Crimson Lima horsebox, too.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: weave on September 19, 2015, 09:21:32 AM
Hi,

Great stuff and love the harbour. Looking forward to progress and any tips.

Cheers weave
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2015, 05:58:45 PM
Been doing a bit more work on and off today on the right hand corner of Trepol Bay. This involves no trackwork and is merely to complete the scene and hide the fiddle yard which is lurking behind.
The harbour wall represents (in my mind) the original part of the harbour which has largely fallen into disuse and been replaced by the larger and newer section to the left (which has been completed for some time). Today I finished applying paint and scatter material to the hills/cliffs behind the harbour and also added the surface section of the harbour wall. Plus, I've completed the first coat of the sea :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1580_zps0qiqduf4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1580_zps0qiqduf4.jpg.html)
The first photo shows how the corner fits into the overall scene whilst the photo below shows a little more detail :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1581_zpsnlhm8lww.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1581_zpsnlhm8lww.jpg.html)
I still have some touching up to do on the hills and the odd bush to add. I need to construct a couple of run-down huts/warehouses to add to the harbour itself and I need to order some bollards and add a few old chains/ropes and general clutter. The sea needs its 2nd/3rd coats before I apply 4 or 5 coats of yacht varnish eventually.
And, hopefully, Mrs PP will paint the sky (with clouds) for me above the hills.
Once that's done my plan is to install the point motors and connect up the street and interior lights (most of which are already in place).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on September 21, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
Looking very good, Martin. I like that new area very much.

Michael
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on September 21, 2015, 09:09:29 PM
All done to your usual very high standard, Martin :thumbsup:
I wouldn't fancy climbing down to the boat so would have to have a pie and a pint whilst waiting for the tide to come in :worried:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 21, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
Really excellent work, Martin. Puts my very slow progress to shame. All it needs now is some seagulls! 8-) Plus some filler in the crack between the two areas of sea. Now you definitely have space for some hardy campers up on the hills.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2015, 09:22:50 PM
Really excellent work, Martin. Puts my very slow progress to shame. All it needs now is some seagulls! 8-) Plus some filler in the crack between the two areas of sea. Now you definitely have space for some hardy campers up on the hills.
I can't put filler in the crack as the two sections are in no way fixed and need to be removable so it will stay as it is I think. However, the colours will eventually match better and the two sections will push closer together.
Those hardy campers will make an appearance but on the left hand corner section (still to be constructed).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2015, 09:25:10 PM
All done to your usual very high standard, Martin :thumbsup:
I wouldn't fancy climbing down to the boat so would have to have a pie and a pint whilst waiting for the tide to come in :worried:
Yes, it's very much low tide at the moment.
I can recommend a pint of Summer Lightning (Headland Brewery) available at the Station Hotel. However, it's Cornwall so go for the pasty not the pie ! :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on September 21, 2015, 09:28:27 PM
Come to think of it.....that would be a challenge to build.
Tides coming in then going out again.   :hmmm:
No.....don't think I can handle that one !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on September 22, 2015, 10:38:11 AM
Tide coming and going has been done in the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg. The water level in their Scandinavian corner rises and falls by 4cms (I think). But then, they use real water...

Cheers
Michael

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2015, 07:26:40 PM
Just been having a think whilst running in my new Union Mills Dean Goods.
Longer term, I plan to dismantle my first layout (Port Perran) and replace it with a smaller version which will be directly connected to Trepol Bay. I'm thinking that the new Port Perran and it's connection sections to Trepol bay should be on small modular making dismantling and transportation easy and allowing me to build it all in sections.
I am thinking of having the following smallish modular sections :
1) The Junction from Trepol Bay to Port Perran which would include a locomotive shed used by the upcoming Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group to store, service and maintain its fleet of ex GW and SR locomotives. I'd like to create something that is based on an old steam loco shed (probably two roads) with a turntable but incorporate  a newly  built loco servicing/repair building.
2) A bridge section similar to the bridge over Little Petherick Creek at Padstow.
3) A straight section (possibly three feet long) through wooded countryside.
4) Port perran station and a section of Port Perran village.
I'm uncertain at this stage whether or not to re-create the sea wall alongside the station and the beach/sea which I have on the existing Port Perran?   It looks good and I like it but space may well be a constraining factor.
Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on my musings/ramblings ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
Meanwhile.....a surprise horse box van arrived at Trepol Bay this week attached to a through passenger working originating in the Midlands .
The new van is being shunted in the harbour by a pannier tank which is deputising for the usual diesel shunter which is under repair at Wadebridge.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1597_zpsvwpgtsqu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1597_zpsvwpgtsqu.jpg.html)
Arthur Penhaligan, the assistant harbourmaster seems unimpressed with the new van whilst in the background there is activity at the wagon works and there seems to be a good stock of ale at the Headland Brewery Distribution Depot awaiting loading into wagons (one of which is just out of picture being hauled up to the loading bay by Alfred one of two harbour horses).
Thanks to John of Calverdon fame for sending the wagon down the line.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: mika on October 02, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Very good idea to have a modular design. Sounds great. Which one will you build first?

Michael
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 02, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Very good idea to have a modular design. Sounds great. Which one will you build first?

Michael
Logically thinking it should be the junction/shed area as this will be the one which connects directly to Trepol Bay so it makes sense to do that first.
However.........logic doesn't always prevail !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
Many thanks for the latest photo. update, Martin. I'm delighted that your GWR livery Lima horsebox has also arrived; that is one more vehicle for 'through' workings whether as part of a demonstration GWR goods train or a racehorse special (Lord Trevelver of Cant Castle being an ardent GWR supporter whilst Lady Penelope supports the SR so, if he can get away with it, a GWR livery horsebox may well appear amongst the various BR liveried ones!)

I would also begin with the junction/shed area as it will connect directly to Trepol Bay so you can resume through running. Also, you definitely need a locomotive shed to display the Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group's growing fleet of ex-GW and SR locomotives. Alas, I have very limited space to do that at Cant Cove but (if it ever gets built) there will be additional space at Penmayne.

Regarding the other modules (I also plan similar modules to, eventually, link Cant Cove via Cant Hill tunnel and a stretch of countryside with Penmayne on the left and, with a bridge section similar to the bridge over Little Petherick Creek, to Wadebridge (or a fiddle yard representing it and the rest of BR) on the right):

-- A bridge section similar to the bridge over Little Petherick Creek at Padstow, is an excellent idea, (I had to make do with a very short bridge at Cant Cove).
-- A straight section (possibly three feet long) through wooded countryside, another very good idea and a good place to photograph trains (it could even be a standalone module for photographing trains).
-- Port Perran station and a section of Port Perran village -- a must, I think as the station is very attractive.

If possible I would also vote for re-creating the sea wall alongside the station and the beach/sea which you have on the existing Port Perran as it does look good and is a nice feature to include in photos. However, I do realise that, with limited space, it would be difficult to fit everything in!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: lil chris on October 03, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
looking good there Martin.Re modules that is what I have done with my layout, two modules are 3 ft long x 1ft wide and the station module is 4ft long 18 " wide. I have used patternmakers dowels and catches from stationroad baseboards to connect them together.I have also made two "L" shaped boards to join them together so I have a continous run If I want or just use part of the layout. Its sounds like a good idea to connect a new layout to this one has long has you have the room,I look forward to seeing your progress.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 04, 2015, 07:18:33 PM
There have been a number of unusual train movements within a fairly short period of time around Trepol Bay this afternoon as witnessed by a camera carrying local enthusiast who just happened to be in the vicinity :

First we see the CLPG's newly restored Dean Goods 0-6-0 at the head of some stock from the Great western Demonstration Goods train heading towards Truro on a "running in" turn :
 (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1602_zpsmwjibfnq.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1602_zpsmwjibfnq.jpg.html)

This is followed some minutes later by an N 2-6-0 on a Truro (via Chacewater) to Wadebridge passenger duty :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1603_zpskjjk9t79.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1603_zpskjjk9t79.jpg.html)

About 30 minutes later we see a Hymek on a freight from the Midlands areas which is composed largely of Cornish private owner stock. Many of the wagons worked up to the Midlands earlier in the week and are now returning home. Some wagons will be detached at Trepol Bay whilst others will work on towards Cant Cove :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1604_zpsuqfdxcrx.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1604_zpsuqfdxcrx.jpg.html)

Sometime later we see a brand new Class 52 Western hydraulic working towards Truro with a special working composed of chocolate and cream Mk1 stock :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1605_zpsgkorpqhq.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1605_zpsgkorpqhq.jpg.html)

Finally we witness a West Country pacific working back towards Wadebridge on a local passenger train composed of two rather mixed carriages :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1606_zpshv6krnpx.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1606_zpshv6krnpx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2015, 07:30:35 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of update photos., Martin. That is a fine selection of locomotives and stock. (I must take a photo. of my demonstration SR and GWR goods trains with the latest additions. However, the new additions have not had their buffers painted.) Your new Dean Goods looks very good but reminds me that I must order a UM T9 before Christmas! 8-) The returning PO wagons and vans remind me that I need to print out the transfers before Christmas, too!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 04, 2015, 07:34:35 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of update photos., Martin. That is a fine selection of locomotives and stock. (I must take a photo. of my demonstration SR and GWR goods trains with the latest additions. However, the new additions have not had their buffers painted.) Your new Dean Goods looks very good but reminds me that I must order a UM T9 before Christmas! 8-) The returning PO wagons and vans remind me that I need to print out the transfers before Christmas, too!
Thanks Chris. As you see, I've had a bit of a "running session" this evening.
I hope to do a bit of work tomorrow on the right corner piece on Trepol Bay now that the weather has deteriorated after 10 days of sunshine !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on October 04, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Nice pics, Martin
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 04, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
looking good there Martin.Re modules that is what I have done with my layout, two modules are 3 ft long x 1ft wide and the station module is 4ft long 18 " wide. I have used patternmakers dowels and catches from stationroad baseboards to connect them together.I have also made two "L" shaped boards to join them together so I have a continous run If I want or just use part of the layout. Its sounds like a good idea to connect a new layout to this one has long has you have the room,I look forward to seeing your progress.
Yes Chris, space is the problem but I hope to be able to fit everything in. Have to finish Trepol Bay first though. Hopefully over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 04, 2015, 07:42:59 PM
We've had pretty good weather here, too, but its getting much colder, now. Too cold to have the windows open after painting (if I had the time to do any). I hope to take some photos. tomorrow, if the sun shines. I look forward to seeing how the right corner piece on Trepol Bay develops. I'm sure you'll be working quickly but very well.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on October 04, 2015, 08:41:09 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin.  The Dean Goods 0-6-0 looks really good; I'm tempted to get one for Claverdon.

Also nice to see the wagons made it safely back to the South West ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 05, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Done some work on the corner (scenic) section today. Mainly adding some detail (ie abandoned oildrums, a fuel tank with hose, some ropes  and a few other bits and bobs) plus I've applied two coats of yacht varnish to the sea area. Next I need to add some more paint to the sea (including a few tiny white wisps to the waves) before adding four or five more coats of varnish.
I've also ordered some more quayside bollards as I didn't have enough, a couple of rowing boats and a small tugboat from Langley Models.
And.....just finished off with a short running session.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 05, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
Sounds very good, Martin. I look forward to the photos., in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on October 05, 2015, 09:44:40 PM

And.....just finished off with a short running session.

A great way to 'wind down' at the end of the day :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 06, 2015, 11:06:19 AM
Just finished the third coat of yacht varnish. Will add some paint later this evening then more varnish over the coming days.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2015, 07:33:54 PM
My new (unpainted) tugboat kit arrived from Langley Models today.
Here it is posed (but not built yet) entering the harbour at Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1609_zpsd2q6ocmd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1609_zpsd2q6ocmd.jpg.html)
On opening the box, I was rather concerned by the size (it being much bigger than my trawler) but I think it is OK and will carry on with construction and painting.
I've started adding some detail to the new section of harbour wall and have applied 3 layers of yacht varnish to the sea so far.
Mrs PP has promised to paint the sky above the cliffs for me in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2015, 08:05:32 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I'm sure that painted in darker colours, it will appear smaller than it does now. The corner is looking very good already.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 11, 2015, 03:30:29 PM
Started working on the Tug today which is  to be named "Mew".
Haven't done much other than undercoat the resin body. I'm no expert on boat colours but going for dark grey and brown for the hull (outside) and lighter grey for the decking.
Stopped work now for the paint to dry.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 11, 2015, 03:40:50 PM
Thanks, Martin. I'm sure you'll do a fine job of the former MV Trepol Bay and look forward to the update photos. in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 12, 2015, 10:21:58 AM
Guests will be arriving mid week so this morning Trepol Bay has been put away till next Monday.
Fairly easy task as it's designed to be reasonably portable.
I may take the opportunity next week to fix up the building/street lighting before I fix everything back together. We'll see how I feel as electrics is something that doesn't really interest me so I need to be motivated !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
I look forward to Trepol Bay's return, Martin, and hope that you will be able to fix the lighting as it does make a big difference, I think.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 12, 2015, 11:02:00 PM
 :hellosign: awaiting updates in due course.
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2015, 01:26:52 PM
No excuses now.
Bought some wire and connectors etc today and as I have to set up Trepol Bay again this weekend after visitors I suppose I must take the opportunity to wire up the street, station and building lights which are all in position but not connected up.
Just can't really drum up the enthusiasm for wiring but I guess it will look good when it's completed.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 23, 2015, 07:20:33 PM
So........about a year ago when I started Trepol Bay, I "planted" some seven station lamp posts on the station platform which I then stuck down leaving the various leads from the lights protruding under the baseboard.
This evening I have, with not a little trepidation, connected the leads together (albeit temporarily for now)and plugged them in. With baited breath I switched on and......hey presto we have station lighting. Only problem is one of the lamp posts (with twin lights) seems to have a bulb gone. There seems to be little I can do about that (Unless someone can advise better) without ripping up the platform and replacing the lamp post.
Tomorrow I must tidy up the wiring under the baseboard (I don't want to have the complete spaghetti of a mess that I have under Port Perran) and then wire in all the rest of the lights on the layout.
Hopefully by this time tomorrow Trepol Bay will be illuminated.
Might need my sunglasses  8)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on October 23, 2015, 08:45:37 PM
You need a man on a ladder about to replace the blown bulb mate.

Sorted  :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: lil chris on October 23, 2015, 10:39:20 PM
Your last set of pics you posted look good and nice choice of stock. I must admit I fancy a union mills loco myself probably a 3F. I also need to keep my wiring tidy this time, I want to avoid a spaghetti mess under the main board.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
You need a man on a ladder about to replace the blown bulb mate.

Sorted  :beers:

Excellent idea, Mike. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 24, 2015, 12:45:43 PM
I look forward to the updates in due course. So, I should test all my railway lights before installing them.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on October 24, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
What power supply are you using for your lighting circuit please, Martin?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
What power supply are you using for your lighting circuit please, Martin?
#I've used very simple 12V adapters from Maplins (£9-99 each I think they were). One is only man enough to power about 20 lamps though so I have two.
May need to get another as I still have the shops and signal box to wire up.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2015, 04:06:42 PM
I look forward to the updates in due course. So, I should test all my railway lights before installing them.
I'd take the precaution if I were you Chris. It's only one light on mine and it's luckily the least visible one so I'm not going to attempt to change it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2015, 04:10:22 PM
Well, I've completed 75% of the lights and all seems fine (including my welding simulator for the wagon works). I need to reaffix a few building roofs before I take any pictures plus I want to see if any lights need dulling down a bit but I'll need to wait till its dark for that.
I also have to install lighting in the row of shops and the Station Hotel and the signal box but that may need to wait till next weekend.
I've had enough of wires for this weekend !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on October 24, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
What power supply are you using for your lighting circuit please, Martin?
#I've used very simple 12V adapters from Maplins (£9-99 each I think they were). One is only man enough to power about 20 lamps though so I have two.
May need to get another as I still have the shops and signal box to wire up.

Thanks, Martin. Last question (I think) - are your lamps LED or Grain of Wheat please?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
What power supply are you using for your lighting circuit please, Martin?
#I've used very simple 12V adapters from Maplins (£9-99 each I think they were). One is only man enough to power about 20 lamps though so I have two.
May need to get another as I still have the shops and signal box to wire up.
Thanks, Martin. Last question (I think) - are your lamps LED or Grain of Wheat please?
They are LED lamps. Some from Kytes Lights and some bought at a local show.
A picture will follow in a few days (hopefully).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 24, 2015, 09:52:25 PM
Well, I've completed 75% of the lights and all seems fine (including my welding simulator for the wagon works). I need to reaffix a few building roofs before I take any pictures plus I want to see if any lights need dulling down a bit but I'll need to wait till its dark for that.
I also have to install lighting in the row of shops and the Station Hotel and the signal box but that may need to wait till next weekend.
I've had enough of wires for this weekend !
One or two seem to be  too bright. It's more to do with their position in the building than anything else.  It's something I can solve by putting a bit of tape around the bulb (which I've done in the past on Port Perran).  A job for another day though !.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2015, 09:07:48 AM
I look forward to the updates in due course. So, I should test all my railway lights before installing them.
I'd take the precaution if I were you Chris. It's only one light on mine and it's luckily the least visible one so I'm not going to attempt to change it.
Thanks, Martin. Another job for December when my landlord comes round to do the wiring.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on October 25, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
Looking forward to seeing them in action. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 25, 2015, 06:35:16 PM
It's been a beautiful day here so it was a coastal walk for Mrs PP and I and a lovely lunch at the hidden café near Porthscatho.
Tomorrow it's forecast for rain all day so hopefully, I can get the lighting finished and Trepol Bay back in action. The layout has been stored for 2 weeks due to visitors but looking forward to getting it up and running tomorrow with some trains in operation.
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Glad that you were both able to enjoy some nice weather together, Martin. I look forward to some photos., of Trepol Bay, tomorrow.

(In order to catch up with work I've gone away for a week.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 25, 2015, 06:59:29 PM
Glad that you were both able to enjoy some nice weather together, Martin. I look forward to some photos., of Trepol Bay, tomorrow.

(In order to catch up with work I've gone away for a week.)
Going away to "catch up with work" sounds like a good plan to me !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2015, 07:02:46 PM
(In order to catch up with work I've gone away for a week.)
Going away to "catch up with work" sounds like a good plan to me !

Well, going away is a rest as it is a change of place and I am catching up with work. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 25, 2015, 07:59:50 PM
Had another look at the lighting on Trepol Bay this evening and I think I may also add an internal light to the grounded coach body which forms the Trepol Bay Diner.
A job for tomorrow which may also include a trip to Maplins at Threemilestone !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 25, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Had another look at the lighting on Trepol Bay this evening and I think I may also add an internal light to the grounded coach body which forms the Trepol Bay Diner.
A job for tomorrow which may also include a trip to Maplins at Threemilestone !

Oh, yes; definitely light the diner, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on October 25, 2015, 11:51:08 PM
 :hellosign: look forward to seeing the results Martin.
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: jonclox on October 26, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
It's been a beautiful day here so it was a coastal walk for Mrs PP and I and a lovely lunch at the hidden café near Porthscatho.
:goggleeyes: Now theres name I had forgotten all about A lovely little village (or was).
We rented a flat overlooking the sea there back in the `70s and spent nearly all week exploring Carrick Roads in our fibre  glass  canoe. As you say theres some great hidden eateries in the area
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2015, 04:46:11 PM
So....all lights now connected and working.
The final task is to dull some of them down a bit(particularly those inside buildings) but I need it to get darker to do that. Then I can fix a few building roof sections back down (where I had to remove them to install the lights) and fix any light leakages (because there will be some) and also glue a few lamp posts in place (at the moment a few lean a little alarmingly). However, all in all, it's working and I have 34 street or interior lights all illuminated happily (at least they were 10 mins ago!).
Once I'm happy I can reconnect Trepol Bay to its fiddle yard and start running trains again.
I don't want to see another piece of wire for a while !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
I'm sure that it will be well worth all your hard work, Martin, when you can admire the lighting (and we can admire the photos.) and see trains running, again.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
Just a quick photo and video of the lights before I fix the railway back together and reattach the backscene.
First the photo :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1613_zps0fesazi8.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1613_zps0fesazi8.jpg.html)
It's not brilliant but it does show what I've done (hopefully). Some lights look really bright but to the naked eye they are less strong. However, I will be dulling some down a bit. The light shining through the roof of the fish packing shed is simply because temporarily the bulb is too close to the roof.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1615_zpspcla0g0u.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1615_zpspcla0g0u.mp4)
The video shows the welding simulator in the wagon repair shop. Again the roof was detached to allow me to insert the welder and has not been reaffixed (hence the light escaping).
More photos to follow once it's all finished and everything is as it should be (hopefully at the end of next weekend).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2015, 06:08:16 PM
Thanks, Martin. already looking good. I could probably fit a similar welder in the workshop of Cant Cove's loco. shed (when it is fully assembled).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on October 26, 2015, 06:17:32 PM
Unfortunately I can't see videos on Photobucket for some reason, but the photos look good. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
Unfortunately I can't see videos on Photobucket for some reason, but the photos look good. :thumbsup:
No idea why you can't see the video as Chris presumably can. Maybe someone else can shed some light on that.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2015, 06:45:12 PM
Thanks, Martin. already looking good. I could probably fit a similar welder in the workshop of Cant Cove's loco. shed (when it is fully assembled).
Yes, I think a welder would look good in your loco shed. Quite cheap and very easy to install.
The layout is now up and running again except the line down to the harbour which I'll connect up tomorrow.
First test trains have run round as normal so now it's a case of tidying the room up, tidying up the fiddle yard and then completing the finishing touches on the lights etc.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2015, 07:02:15 PM
Unfortunately I can't see videos on Photobucket for some reason, but the photos look good. :thumbsup:
No idea why you can't see the video as Chris presumably can. Maybe someone else can shed some light on that.

Yes, I can, Martin. Maybe you have to be a Photobucket user?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2015, 07:06:37 PM
I look forward to tomorrow's update then, Martin. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on October 26, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
I use Firefox on a Linux based system. I've just downloaded Opera. No go, so Chrome. I can see the videos on this but the download is very very slow in comparison with YouTube. That said a great video. The welding adds to the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
I use Firefox on a Linux based system. I've just downloaded Opera. No go, so Chrome. I can see the videos on this but the download is very very slow in comparison with YouTube. That said a great video. The welding adds to the atmosphere.
Glad you got there eventually Brian.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Caz on October 27, 2015, 10:29:32 AM
So....all lights now connected and working.
The final task is to dull some of them down a bit(particularly those inside buildings) but I need it to get darker to do that. Then I can fix a few building roof sections back down (where I had to remove them to install the lights) and fix any light leakages (because there will be some) and also glue a few lamp posts in place (at the moment a few lean a little alarmingly). However, all in all, it's working and I have 34 street or interior lights all illuminated happily (at least they were 10 mins ago!).
Once I'm happy I can reconnect Trepol Bay to its fiddle yard and start running trains again.
I don't want to see another piece of wire for a while !

To stop light bleed from buildings I've used a combination of painting the insides with matt black emulsion paint or lining them with thin black card.

To reduce the light output of the lamps you can either use a lower voltage supply or put resistors in series with the lamps you want to reduce the brightness for.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2015, 04:16:10 PM
Spent the afternoon reconnecting Trepol Bay Harbour line with the main line so I can now run trains down to the harbour again.
I've made a slight adjustment so that I can add a turn off towards the new Port Perran (not yet started). I originally envisaged a three way point to do this but it will work much better with a simple branch off of the harbour line.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2015, 04:19:53 PM
So....all lights now connected and working.
The final task is to dull some of them down a bit(particularly those inside buildings) but I need it to get darker to do that. Then I can fix a few building roof sections back down (where I had to remove them to install the lights) and fix any light leakages (because there will be some) and also glue a few lamp posts in place (at the moment a few lean a little alarmingly). However, all in all, it's working and I have 34 street or interior lights all illuminated happily (at least they were 10 mins ago!).
Once I'm happy I can reconnect Trepol Bay to its fiddle yard and start running trains again.
I don't want to see another piece of wire for a while !

To stop light bleed from buildings I've used a combination of painting the insides with matt black emulsion paint or lining them with thin black card.
To reduce the light output of the lamps you can either use a lower voltage supply or put resistors in series with the lamps you want to reduce the brightness for.
Thanks Caz. I intend to do the same with card and paint to stop light bleed. I'll start on the individual buildings over the weekend hopefully.
I'm a complete dunce where electrics are concerned (and I mean a complete dunce  :dunce:) so if I have just a couple of street lights which are too bright, can I add a single resistor just before each of the lights concerned  to reduce just the brightness of those individual lights ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
I look forward to the update photos., Martin, including the new track to Port Perran. Avoiding the expense of a three-way point (plus the cost and trouble of fitting a Hex Frog Juicer (a fairly large PCB) -- mine is still awaiting a professional -- my landlord -- to install it) is very wise. I'm hoping my PCB can be fitted under the board and the wiring fed through drilled holes then soldered in place. (The loco. shed car park will lift off to access the wires, I plan.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2015, 06:15:16 PM
A couple of videos now that Trepol Bay is up and running aagain after it had to be temporarily stored due to guests visiting.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1616_zpsesqge4mn.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1616_zpsesqge4mn.mp4)
First we have an 08 shunter taking a couple of wagons down to the harbour. Apologies for the sharp stop by the shunter but it's hard to work the camera (my phone) and the controller.

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1620_zpseud1c4nx.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1620_zpseud1c4nx.mp4)
Here we have a general overview of Trepol Bay with an N 2-6-0 running on a passenger train. A behind the scenes shot shows the fiddle yard with other trains set up and ready to move out onto the main line. Again, apologies fir the quality (especially in the fiddle yard where the lighting is poor).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on October 30, 2015, 06:42:32 PM

I'm a complete dunce where electrics are concerned (and I mean a complete dunce  :dunce:) so if I have just a couple of street lights which are too bright, can I add a single resistor just before each of the lights concerned  to reduce just the brightness of those individual lights ?
Yes. The size of the resistor  depends on voltage you want to reduce to. Another way is to put diodes in line. They reduce the voltage by 0.7 volts. You can put a line in series and each on will reduce the input by 0.7 volts.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2015, 06:53:54 PM
Thanks for two very nice videos, Martin. Always good to see Trepol Bay in action and the view of the fiddle yard is a nice bonus. I missed the new point though for the line to Port Perran. The trains make a very realistic 'track' sound when running which is very nice.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
Thanks for two very nice videos, Martin. Always good to see Trepol Bay in action and the view of the fiddle yard is a nice bonus. I missed the new point though for the line to Port Perran. The trains make a very realistic 'track' sound when running which is very nice.
Ah....no new point yet , just provision for it. I need to buy a point next time I'm at the model shoo.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2015, 08:47:43 PM
Thanks for two very nice videos, Martin. Always good to see Trepol Bay in action and the view of the fiddle yard is a nice bonus. I missed the new point though for the line to Port Perran. The trains make a very realistic 'track' sound when running which is very nice.
Ah....no new point yet , just provision for it. I need to buy a point next time I'm at the model shoo.

(Nobby pounces)
Are they for your Shoo Shoos or Mrs. P-P's Jimmy Choo Choos? ;) :P
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on October 30, 2015, 08:51:40 PM
Thanks for two very nice videos, Martin. Always good to see Trepol Bay in action and the view of the fiddle yard is a nice bonus. I missed the new point though for the line to Port Perran. The trains make a very realistic 'track' sound when running which is very nice.
Ah....no new point yet , just provision for it. I need to buy a point next time I'm at the model shoo.

(Nobby pounces)
Are they for your Shoo Shoos or Mrs. P-P's Jimmy Choo Choos? ;) :P
You are sooooo sharp Mick,
I must remember to check for spelling mistakes!  :bounce:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 01, 2015, 08:10:38 PM
Been running some trains this evening with the layout lit up. Still a lot to do to stop a bit of light bleed and to make some lights less bright. Both jobs will be in hand over the next few weeks.
I got to thinking about adding lights to the back scene. Has anyone tried this ?
I'm considering making tiny pin prick holes through the windows of the cottages etc in my backscene and then having lights shining through.
I might try it on a single window in a cottage first to see what it looks like ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 01, 2015, 08:17:37 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. Sounds good. The pinpricks sounds a very good idea but try it out on one cottage, first, rather than just one window.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 01, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. Sounds good. The pinpricks sounds a very good idea but try it out on one cottage, first, rather than just one window.
The single window idea is because generally, at night, people in cottages/houses don't have all the lights on - only maybe lights in 1 or 2 rooms.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 01, 2015, 08:26:29 PM
That's true, Martin so, maybe two windows?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on November 01, 2015, 08:27:34 PM
Excellent idea. If you can get hold of some fibre optics you would only need one light source.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 01, 2015, 08:41:10 PM
I think I have some.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Caz on November 02, 2015, 04:09:37 PM
You might want to try putting the light source behind some cartridge paper or thick tissue paper to help diffuse the light and make it softer.   ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 02, 2015, 04:59:30 PM
You might want to try putting the light source behind some cartridge paper or thick tissue paper to help diffuse the light and make it softer.   ;)
Good tip Caz - yes, I'll give that a go.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 06, 2015, 03:46:03 PM
Mrs PP has very kindly painted the sky for me above the small corner extension to the harbour area.
I think it looks excellent, a couple of photos to show her work. The extension is to the right in the pictures :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1624_zpsqbt6rfq2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1624_zpsqbt6rfq2.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1622_zpsxxhosbks.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1622_zpsxxhosbks.jpg.html)
Just a couple of things to complete to finish on the extension. I have some bollards to go onto the harbourside which I am painting this afternoon. I have two Langley rowing boats to finish and paint and I have a Langley trawler to construct and paint.
Also, I need to secure the two sections of backboard so that they align properly (you'll see that they are out of skew in the photos). A simple job but I need a trip to B&Q tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Very nice work, both of you, Martin. Thanks for the update. The corner extension really looks excellent. I'm glad that the "Castle Estates" lorry, finally, was able to get into the quayside area to load more timber. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 14, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
Today I've pretty much finished the Langley Models tugboat kit which is the final part of the scenic right hand corner attachment to Trepol Bay.
Ship is placed in position entering what is the oldest part of the harbour :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1637_zpstrack9hc.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1637_zpstrack9hc.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1636_zpswzevaqr9.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1636_zpswzevaqr9.jpg.html)
That bit of green foliage isn't meant to be in the sea !
As ever, close up photography only serves to emphasise blemishes and bits of paintwork that I've missed.
Overall though, I'm quite pleased with the ship (or is it a boat?).
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Post by: Caz on November 14, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
She certainly looks the part and has made up into a very nice model and looks fantastic in your very realistic harbour.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Thanks, Martin, for another very nice picture. The tug boat looks very good indeed as does this 'new' corner of your excellent layout. (Closeup photos always show those tiny errors that are invisible from normal viewing distance.)
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Post by: David Asquith on November 14, 2015, 04:14:50 PM
Isn't that bit of foliage sea weed?  Looking good.

Dave
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Post by: cornish yorkie on November 14, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Thanks for sharing Martin, your BOAT looks spot on in the harbour, superb modelling.
regards Derek.
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Post by: Newportnobby on November 14, 2015, 09:38:29 PM
Nice one, Martin :thumbsup:
That sets off the harbour scene a treat.
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Post by: Steve Brassett on November 15, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
Overall though, I'm quite pleased with the ship (or is it a boat?).
It's a ship - gravy comes in a boat.  :D
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Post by: port perran on November 15, 2015, 03:17:39 PM
Having finished the right hand scenic corner extension on Trepol Bay, attention turns to the left corner extension.
Today, the corner section has been fitted into place and a hole cut to accommodate a tunnel mouth. I have laid in place some track into the tunnel mouth after which it connects with the fiddle yard. A pannier and brakevan have been balanced on the temporary track :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1638_zpsryo3qxxv.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1638_zpsryo3qxxv.jpg.html)
I have also laid in place an extension to the non working abandoned narrow gauge tracks (Z scale track)which runs onto the harbour. The route of the canal is pencilled in.
The wooden block on which the pannier is sitting will become a grassy embankment. The canal will pass under the railway by means of a tunnel
I've included a second photo to show what will happen later (hopefully with a start being made before Christmas) :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1639_zps7prulrzu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1639_zps7prulrzu.jpg.html)
The track will continue on along the length of the bed roughly following the line of the piece of straight flexi track which I've laid there. This will effectively be the new Port Perran with the station being where the pillows are stacked.
The void between the extension started today and the edge of the bed will be a girder/trestle bridge. A removable baseboard will be constructed to fit above the bed holding the new Port Perran.
Eventually trains will be able to run happily between Trepol Bay station and Port Perran station.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
Thanks for those two photo. updates, Martin. Very much looking forward to seeing the corner and the new Port Perran develop. I hope all goes very well.
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Post by: cornish yorkie on November 15, 2015, 08:42:09 PM
 :hellosign: Martin   :greatpicturessign: so far so good look forward to further updates, thanks for sharing.
regards Derek.
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Post by: lil chris on November 15, 2015, 11:09:42 PM
Looking good there in the Harbour, the ship sets it off nicely.
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Post by: jonclox on November 16, 2015, 04:41:41 PM
Superb work as always Martin   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: weave on November 16, 2015, 05:45:56 PM
Great stuff as usual Martin and thanks for the pics.

Small hijackish on the thread, hope you don't mind, but to anyone wanting to know the difference between a boat and a ship, don't bother trying to find out unless you have a lot of spare time.

I gave up and started drinking from a vessel.

Cheers weave  :beers:



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Post by: port perran on November 16, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
Managed a bit of work on the left corner section today though for the time I've spent on it it doesn't look much. Have to be careful because it all has to line up correctly for the new Port Perran eventually.
Much of today's work has been preparatory but a couple of update pictures anyway :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1640_zpsofpcpj5w.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1640_zpsofpcpj5w.jpg.html)
So we have the main line from the Fiddle Yard heading over the canal towards Port Perran. The canal (brown) goes under the line (you can see where the towpath will pass under as well).
The current end of the line (where the brakevan is) will become a girder bridge.
The narrow gauge track will disappear (as shown) into a tunnel. There is a 1.5 inch gap between the beige plastikard wall (which will be painted grey) and the white card. This will be infilled with grout to make a grass bank above the wall. 
Everything needs painting and the fiddly fancy bits added to the canal bridge and the railway tunnel mouth.
The second picture below should put things in place :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1641_zpsjfj2sttl.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1641_zpsjfj2sttl.jpg.html)
Lots to do but it should look OK when finished. However that may be some time as little will get done now over the next 10 days or so.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 16, 2015, 08:14:47 PM
Thanks for these two updates, Martin. Steady progress is much better than rushing things (as I'm apt to do when I do have spare time).

It was nice, yesterday, to see one of Wadebridge's ex-LNER 'Toad E' brake vans on the new line.

A special loco., on loan to Trepol Bay, from Exmouth Junction, over the busy Christmas and New Year period is rumoured to be arriving at the end of this week. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on November 18, 2015, 07:14:23 PM
Spent a bit more time on the corner section again this evening.
I've been making wall sections up to correct thicknesses separated by coffee stirrers then painting the stonework.
Most wall sections now glued into place ready for the plaster infill which will make up the grassy bank on top of the long wall.  I MUST wait for all wall sections to be fully dry before I infill with plaster.
I won't have any spare time after tomorrow for a few days so would like to get all the plaster finished tomorrow so that it can harden full over the weekend.
Once that's done , I can add the detailing to the tunnel mouth and the canal bridge and then it should all start to take shape and make sense. I hope !
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Post by: MinZaPint on November 19, 2015, 11:57:19 AM
Your harbour looks really superb, your treatment of the pilings is particularly effective, looking forward to seeing your work on the "other" end.  Cheers  David
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Post by: port perran on November 19, 2015, 12:07:25 PM
Your harbour looks really superb, your treatment of the pilings is particularly effective, looking forward to seeing your work on the "other" end.  Cheers  David
Thank you David. I'll post more pictures as I finish the other corner.
Martin
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2015, 01:23:46 PM
Looking forward to the updates in due course, Martin.
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Post by: port perran on November 19, 2015, 08:24:01 PM
There was a surprise arrival at Trepol Bay today as a Standard 4 2-6-4 tank arrived on a freight from Wadebridge.
It is reported that the locomotive will spend the period until early January on loan in the area after which it will make its way to Cant Cove.
A couple of pictures of the new arrival running in from Wadebridge with a mixed freight :

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1642_zpscsqhafsh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1642_zpscsqhafsh.jpg.html)

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1643_zpswhpjatnn.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1643_zpswhpjatnn.jpg.html)
[Thanks to Chris (in Prague) for the temporary loan of the locomotive which will be moving on to Wickness for DCC conversion before wending its way to Cant Cove].
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 19, 2015, 10:05:38 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for the nice photos. of what is one of my favourite types of steam loco. The Standard 4 Tank looks at home at Trepol Bay, on loan from Exmouth Junction shed, and, I'm sure, will be put to good use as a backup loco. over the Christmas and New Year period. Early Next Year it should return to the Cant Cove area to help its classmate on passenger and goods trains (from 1962 on).

Also expected, next year, are a BR 350bhp diesel-electric shunter (Class 08) in BR Green with Wasp stripes (a visitor from Wadebridge), a M7 in BR Black Late Crest, and Bulleid Pacific BoB "Spitfire", amongst many others.
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Post by: johnlambert on November 20, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
The BR Standard 4 2-6-4T looks very good there, it also looks a lot like the one working out of Leamington Shed through Claverdon.  I'll have to get mine renumbered soon.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
Thanks, John. I agree that it looks very good at Trepol Bay. It does need a renumber, as does my first one, though. This one will be renumbered to 80036, and my first, 80097, to 80037. (My third will be 80041, eventually, as two DCC-fitted late model 2-6-4Ts will be enough for a while.)
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Post by: port perran on November 25, 2015, 06:38:12 PM
Have completed a fair bit more work on the left corner section of Trepol Bay this evening.
Most (but not all) of the grass banking areas and rough pastureland have been painted in green acrylic then lots of varying coloured scattered material applied roughly over the paint.
I've also applied a second coat of paint to the canal (not yet the right colour but that comes next) and also painted in the tow path.
I now have to wait for all the paint to dry so that I can hoover off any excess scatter material and apply some more to any bald bits.
It's all taking shape but probably have to wait a day or so for pictures when it will all start to look presentable. Hopefully !!
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
Thanks for the update report, Martin. Sounds like very good progress. I look forward to the photos., in due course.
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Post by: port perran on November 25, 2015, 08:01:52 PM
I thought I might try a few close up (ish) pictures this evening.
I'm always worried about this as it shows up all the imperfections but I'll give it a go anyway :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1648_zpsba5t2ks9.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1648_zpsba5t2ks9.jpg.html)
First we have the local Class 08 shunting private owner wagons in the harbour at Trepol Bay.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1650_zpsd5vlhdli.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1650_zpsd5vlhdli.jpg.html)
The 08 is moving out of the harbour back up to the main line.
In the background we see two 45xx tanks - one on shed and the other approaching the station bay platform.
Plenty going on with a car on the ramps at the garage and two horses "on-shed" in the harbour stables. The larger of the two is Lulu one of two heavy horses used for shunting wagons around the harbour.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1651_zpspjwte8xo.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1651_zpspjwte8xo.jpg.html)
Jarvis, the other heavy horse is being led hauling a fish van past the wagon repair workshop. Dave, the foreman, is having a quiet smoke during his tea break. The scammell 3 wheeler is taking empty fish boxes back up to the goods yard.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1652_zpscntshbeh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1652_zpscntshbeh.jpg.html)
A little out of focus but we see Mrs Tremayne about to board the Southern National No 65 bus for Padstow. In the background we can see a van in the livery of Messrs Prisk & Jones (veg wholesalers) being loaded at the company warehouse.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1653_zpslpkkmoj2.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1653_zpslpkkmoj2.jpg.html)
T9 in Southern livery approaching the station. The Station Hotel is in the background.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1654_zpsfgcbqwt9.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1654_zpsfgcbqwt9.jpg.html)
A view across the harbour towards Trepol Bay station where an Ivatt 2-6-2T has arrived with a local train.
The SS Mew is about to dock in the foreground.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2015, 08:16:46 PM
The photos. look extremely good to me, Martin. Many thanks for posting them. The extension on the right fits in very well indeed with the harbour.

I am looking forward to having my BR Green Class 08 running, too; probably not until January though.
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Post by: Mito on November 25, 2015, 08:26:59 PM
What imperfections? Great photos and excellent modeling. I hope I can get somewhere near your standard. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Caz on November 25, 2015, 09:27:03 PM
Superb stuff as usual Martyn, I can never get enough of your quayside, gets better every time I see it.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: lil chris on November 25, 2015, 11:46:03 PM
Yes the quayside is really coming alive Martyn,looking good keep up the good work very inspiring.
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Post by: Newportnobby on November 26, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Fabulous pics of a wonderfully detailed layout, Martin :goggleeyes:
Shame you waited until after the Photo Comp as I'm sure you'd have been in the running.
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Post by: port perran on November 26, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
Fabulous pics of a wonderfully detailed layout, Martin :goggleeyes:
Shame you waited until after the Photo Comp as I'm sure you'd have been in the running.
Maybe next year  :)
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Post by: EtchedPixels on November 26, 2015, 08:25:05 PM
Love the 08 dock branch shot - that really does capture the feel of some of the old dock branches
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Post by: port perran on November 26, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Love the 08 dock branch shot - that really does capture the feel of some of the old dock branches
Thank you - that was what I was trying to achieve. I think it looks better with a pannier though.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
Sylvia has telegraphed the stationmaster at Trepol Bay to inform him that the 'Chelsea Girls' Mercedes Christmas support lorry should arrive in a week or so after it has completed its tour of the West Midlands promoting the special events over Christmas and New Year in the West Country.
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Post by: port perran on November 27, 2015, 08:38:56 PM
Couldn't resist buying this little chap when in Kernow MRC earlier today :

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1656_zpsjwfmfawj.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1656_zpsjwfmfawj.jpg.html)
The vehicle is on trial from the London area and if successful an order will be placed for several by Cornwall County Council.
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Post by: port perran on November 27, 2015, 08:46:14 PM
The Cornwall Locomotive Preservation Group is going from strength to strength in acquiring several ex GW and SR locomotives and restoring them to working order. Under a special agreement with BR the locomotives are used for normal service trains as well as specials throughout the area.
The CLPG now requires several vans and open wagons to use as storage vehicles for tools and spares.
As many vans/wagons are being withdrawn from service, the area manager for Cornwall has agreed to provide several wagons in good condition to the CLPG at no cost.
The Management Committee of the CLPG met recently at the Station Hotel at Trepol Bay and agreed upon a livery for the wagons.
The very first wagon has entered the CLPG workshop today for painting and local enthusiasts are eagerly awaiting its appearance.
Bets are being placed on the final colour scheme which is currently a closely guarded secret.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
That dustcart looks superb, Martin.

The CLPG painters at Cant Cove apologise for the current very poor weather preventing completion of the underframes of the 3 Single-Vent vans donated for the use of the CLPG and due to be dispatched to the wagon repairers at Trepol Bay for painting in the new livery. Unfortunately, in their eagerness to earn money for the group's funds they have made too many promises to many organisations and the sidings at Wadebridge are full of part-completed wagons and vans awaiting their urgent attention once the weather improves!
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Post by: port perran on November 27, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
That dustcart looks superb, Martin.

The CLPG painters at Cant Cove apologise for the current very poor weather preventing completion of the underframes of the 3 Single-Vent vans donated for the use of the CLPG and due to be dispatched to the wagon repairers at Trepol Bay for painting in the new livery. Unfortunately, in their eagerness to earn money for the group's funds they have made too many promises to many organisations and the sidings at Wadebridge are full of part-completed wagons and vans awaiting their urgent attention once the weather improves!
The CLPG at Trepol Bay have plenty of work at the moment restoring and maintaining locomotives so are in no hurry for the vans from Cant Cove.
They are however working hard to complete the first van and it is hoped that it will be ready for a photo shoot in the next day or so.
Any bets on the livery colour ?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 27, 2015, 10:17:46 PM
Some shade of dark green?
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Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 09:12:11 AM
Wrong . You'll have to wait till it's rolled out of the workshop in the next day or so.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2015, 09:27:58 AM
Wrong . You'll have to wait till it's rolled out of the workshop in the next day or so.

Chocolate Brown, similar to Southern Railway goods stock brown and GWR Brown?
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Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 12:10:04 PM
Wrong . You'll have to wait till it's rolled out of the workshop in the next day or so.

Chocolate Brown, similar to Southern Railway goods stock brown and GWR Brown?
:no:
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Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
The volunteer painters at the CLPG have been working very hard this morning and have completed the first of their spares/supplies van in what might described as a controversial livery :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1657_zpsaiwayaxt.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1657_zpsaiwayaxt.jpg.html)
After much good humoured discussion, friendly argument and general banter in the Station Hotel Prussian - Blue was agreed upon. After various suggestions involving chocolate brown, cream and SR green in various combinations, a completely neutral livery was agreed upon. The eagle eyed may notice that the end vents have been picked out in brown (the same colour as the roof).
The sign writer has also been busy giving the van its own identity. The idea is that different boards are attached to represent the home depot of the various vans which will be eventually allocated to the CLPG which has preservation bases throughout Cornwall.
The painters have now retired to the saloon bar at the station Hotel for a well earned pint (or three).
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2015, 05:42:36 PM
May thanks for the photo. and update, Martin. I would never have guessed Prussian Blue with brown but, I agree, it is a choice of livery that will not be confused with any other livery seen in Cornwall, or at any depot or works in the WR or the SR that the vans may travel to to collect spare parts or to deliver parts for repair which are beyond the CLPG's members skills or equipment to fix. The Prussian Blue should also look very good on top of the matt grey undercoat of the three single-vent vans standing in Wadebridge sidings (covered with tarpaulins) awaiting the call to Cant Cove Shed for finishing their underframes' overhaul and repaint. The painters of Trepol Bay certainly deserve a few beers (or ciders).
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Post by: johnlambert on November 28, 2015, 05:58:07 PM
The CLPG van looks really good. Nice choice of colours.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
I can spraypaint a fourth single vent van in grey undercoat and paint its underframe like the other three bound for Trepol Bay for finishing, John, if you'd like one. It could have whichever CLPG depot name you choose (Cant Cove, Penmayne, or Trepol Bay). Next, GWR vans for the GWS at Bodmin General and Port Perran?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 07:24:55 PM
GWS vans sound a good idea. Now that might just be choc/cream livery.
Quite happy to do an extra van for John if necessary.  I dare say that the odd van may well travel to the Midlands (or elsewhere) to collect spares.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
After I get paid, next month, I'll look on eBay for a couple more suitable vans for the GWS, Martin unless John or you see a bargain pair in your local model shop or model railway exhibition?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
Completed quite a lot of work today on the left corner of Trepol Bay. All plastering now completed , painted and covered in scatter material. Some bushes/ground cover added. All canal banks completed and painted etc. The main line embankment over the canal is done and the first section of the girder bridge is positioned.
Canal itself painted twice but needs a final top coat before varnish is applied.
The area needs a couple of trees and luckily I have a couple of unused ones.
May get a bit more completed tomorrow but we'll have to see.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 28, 2015, 08:20:33 PM
Sounds very good, Martin. Don't forget the campers' tent. 8-) I look forwrd to the update photos., soon.
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Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
Sounds very good, Martin. Don't forget the campers' tent. 8-) I look forwrd to the update photos., soon.
That will be at the end - as one of the finishing touches.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 29, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Rumours are spreading that [next year] 1965 should see some very special events in the West Country in general and, especially Cornwall, featuring both diesel and steam power of great interest, from both the WR and SR, which will attract enthusiast specials from far afield.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 01, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
A special train of 4 Brake Vans arrived in Cornwall today from the Midlands.
The four brake vans arrived at Penzance via the GWR main line attached to a through freight.
From Penzance the vans made their way up to Trepol Bay (where they are pictured) behind a Class 14.
One van will remain in the Trepol Bay area whilst the others will travel on to Cant Cove :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1658_zpszid76wmf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1658_zpszid76wmf.jpg.html)
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Post by: port perran on December 01, 2015, 08:03:51 PM
In addition to the train of brake vans , there was a surprise visitor today in the form of the support van for the Chelsea Girls which had also travelled down to Cornwall from the Midlands.
The van will be taking part in several promotional photo shoots around Cornwall.
We have three shots from Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1659_zpsdspvzurm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1659_zpsdspvzurm.jpg.html)
First we see the van having made a surprise visit to the local Castle Estates Office. Dave (the driver) is just about to knock on the door to announce their arrival.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1660_zps6u2eiytu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1660_zps6u2eiytu.jpg.html)
The van was posed in the harbour at Trepol Bay with the SS Mew in the foreground. The 2nd mate appears to be looking the wrong way if he is hoping for a sight of The Chelsea Girls themselves.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1661_zpsshcahbdm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1661_zpsshcahbdm.jpg.html)
Finally, we see the van parked outside of the Station Hotel where the crew will spend the evening.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2015, 08:44:28 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for a really excellent set of photos. of the four brand BR Standard Brake Vans. One of the first two new brake vans, behind the D95XX is bound for Withy Junction (an identical one to these two has already arrived at Claverton). The other three brake vans are for the increased through goods traffic between North, West, and South Cornwall, Somerset and the West Midlands and are a small but practical 'thank you' from the 'Fat Controller' at Plymouth HQ, for all the hard work that the Alliance for Cornwall's Railways has put in to boost freight traffic.

The photos. of the 'Chelsea Girls' Christmas tour support van are excellent, too. The girls have been showing cine film of Cornwall, Cornwall's railways (including the highlights of the summer steam specials), and the program of gourmet events featuring the best of Cornwall. Free samples of "Castle" and "Headland Ales" with North Cornwall Pasty Co's products are given out after the films' showing. In the intervals, dressed as Father Christmas's Elves, in the Mary Quant designed and individually tailored costumes, the girls have been collecting for this year's charity. The girls are very pleased with the reception they have got everywhere they have visited. Their trusty Cornish driver [name please] and the old German mechanic, Manfred Kaneka, have ensured a safe and trouble-free journey in their trusty old Mercedes lorry.

All the tour party are thoroughly enjoying the hospitality of the "Station Hotel". The girls have pronounced their bedrooms are "simply charming" whilst the men have pronounced the Headland Ales as "a nice drop" and "wunderbar", respectively! After touring the Trepol Bay area for a few days they will head south to Port Perran then Newquay and Truro before heading across to St. Austell, then up to Bodmin, Wadebridge, Cant Cove, and Penmayne before returning to Cant Cove for Christmas at Trevelver Castle.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 01, 2015, 08:51:50 PM
The Driver is Dave Tremayne who has been driving trucks for some 20 years.
Hopefully he won't be sampling too many pints of Headland Best Bitter this evening.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2015, 08:58:30 PM
The Driver is Dave Tremayne who has been driving trucks for some 20 years.
Hopefully he won't be sampling too many pints of Headland Best Bitter this evening.

Thanks, Martin. Dave is a long-serving driver for the "Castle Estates" and knows that Sylvia will be keeping a close eye on his bar tab! The barmaids at the "Station Hotel" have been instructed by Sylvia (in return for promises of free tickets for the Trevelver Castle Christmas Charity Ball, including a chartered Southern National bus there and back, attended by plenty of young dashing naval captains) to ensure that Dave does not over indulge!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on December 02, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
The Driver is Dave Tremayne who has been driving trucks for some 20 years.
Hopefully he won't be sampling too many pints of Headland Best Bitter this evening.

Apropos of nothing, I'm sure my dad used to work with a Dave Tremayne. 
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
The Driver is Dave Tremayne who has been driving trucks for some 20 years.
Hopefully he won't be sampling too many pints of Headland Best Bitter this evening.

Apropos of nothing, I'm sure my dad used to work with a Dave Tremayne.
Spooky !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 02, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Spent a bit of time this evening working on the left corner section of Trepol Bay. This is the section which will (eventually) allow me to link Trepol Bay with the new Port Perran .
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1662_zpshqdbewal.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1662_zpshqdbewal.jpg.html)
Looks pretty messy at the moment but the basics are there.
The canal needs a top coat of paint (to match the rest of it) and varnish.
The towpath also needs its topcoat to match the main section.
The girders are only propped in place and will form the first section of 3 on each side. This will form the connection with Port Perran.
The narrow gauge track is down but needs picking out in brown rust.
The walls need a bit more weathering and lichen adding.
Hopefully Mrs PP will add the sky and background.
And some general tidying up to do including adding more bushes and some detail around the tunnel mouth.
Hopefully, however, you can see what the final objective is.  It will eventually end up reasonably neat and tidy.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on December 02, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
It looks pretty good to me, Martin.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 02, 2015, 09:13:02 PM
It's coming along very nicely, Martin. The girder bridge will be a very attractive feature and I'm sure will feature in a lot of photos., just like the bridge over the River Camel near Wadebridge, did. I noticed the tent! Later, you can have fun adding an electric flickering light for a campfire outside their tent for the campers.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Shaun Harvey on December 02, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Looking good. Keep up the good work!
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Post by: Newportnobby on December 02, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
Nice job, Martin :thumbsup:
I look forward to more pics as the extension develops.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 03, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
The photographer for the Cornwall Railway Society was out and about at Trepol Bay today and was fortunate to witness and record some interesting train movements.

First we see a prarie and pannier heading a train of vans containing fresh produce and bound (via Chacewater and Truro) for Withy Junction in Somerset. The first van is conveying Sam's Cider whilst the second (a cattle truck) contains fresh Winter Cabbages. The train is expected to arrive in Somerset overnight :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1663_zps5geithxe.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1663_zps5geithxe.jpg.html)

Next we see the T9 and Black Motor (fully restored and maintained by the CLPG) at the head of the demonstration Southern Goods train. This is believed to be a rehearsal for the forthcoming Christmas Specials in and around Cornwall :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1664_zpsadz4g22a.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1664_zpsadz4g22a.jpg.html)

Next, a special working conveying senior staff, directors and invited guests from various local Businesses who will be visiting Somerset to meet with their counterparts. The train which is made up of chocolate and cream Mk1 stock (including a full buffet) will head to Somerset (Withy Jct) via Wadebridge. The train is hauled by 34065 Hurricane and the first vehicle is a Headland Brewery van stocked with local ales :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1665_zpswk4v7b6h.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1665_zpswk4v7b6h.jpg.html)

A very unusual working indeed. An ex GW railcar in green livery and a Bubble car with a maroon Mk1 between heading from Wadebridge to Truro. This is the timetabled 15.10 arrival but it is unknown why it is so formed today. Normally this working would be a 2 car dmu :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1666_zpsw5dv3hzh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1666_zpsw5dv3hzh.jpg.html)

Finally, we see the late afternoon parcels train(headed by a Hymek Class 35 headed for Wadebridge. Various vans will eventually form the evening North Cornwall parcels to Bristol (including an ex Siphon G bound for Withy Junction) :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1666a_zpswgcomm8d.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1666a_zpswgcomm8d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 03, 2015, 09:48:20 PM
Many thanks for those photos., Martin. Excellent quality as always. I know you were in a rush. The "Sam's Cider" van is, of course, containing empty barrels for cleaning and refilling. The barrels and casks in the "Castle Estates" wagon being shunted by your 350bhp shunter would, normally, be in a dark blue "Castle Brewery" one but the local breweries are very short of wagons and vans in the run-up to Christmas whilst the "Castle Estates" is not so busy at this time of year.

The diesel railcars with a BR Standard coach inbetween is certainly a rarity. Maybe, for the pre-Christmas shoppers? Some paths of the Summer only 'Cant Cove Shuttle' are used for market day and pre-Christmas shopper's special services for which Wadebridge turns out anything serviceable, too.

With the run-up to Christmas, more brewery traffic and parcels and mail traffic can be expected. Penmayne and Cant Cove send parcels and mail traffic to Wadebridge where some travels via the SR to Waterloo and other lines served off that region, including the LMR via the S&D whilst others travel via the WR to Paddington and lines served by that region, such as Bristol and Birmingham. A BR Crimson Siphon G travels from / to Paddington daily whilst a SR Bogie B goes from / to Waterloo (mainly Newspapers). BR BGs, GUVs, and CCTs as well as pre-BR design bogie, six- and four-wheeled stock in a variety of liveries (and even cleanliness) appear in the parcels and mail trains with vans from the LMR and ER included and will be seen in coming days coming from & going to a wide variety of destinations: local, regional, and national. An ancient Siphon G with Christmas traffic to / from Withy Junction is also booked from Penmayne.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
There has been a marked increase in rail traffic throughout Cornwall as the build up to the Christmas period gathers pace.
This includes the movement of stock between various locations in preparation for the various Christmas Specials which will be running.
Also as part of the build up, there has been a big increase in production at the Headland Brewery in readiness for the anticipated increased sales. The Headland Brewery is located behind the hills at Trepol Bay but there is also a storage and distribution depot on the harbourside which in addition to handling its own output also distributes drinks for other companies such as the Castle Estates and Sam's Cider (amongst others).
Most goods trains through Trepol Bay are generally short local freights so it is fairly unusual to see longer freights.
Today a longish train of wagons was assembled in the sidings above the harbour by the local Class 04 shunter and is seen below having just started off towards Truro behind a Class 22. Seen in the train are some Headland Brewery vans (Black), a Sam's Cider Van (Green) and some wagons and vans conveying Castle Brewery produce (dark blue). Other vans which were available at the time have been pressed into use because of the increased output :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/th_IMG_1709_zpscbnjwhv7.mp4) (http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1709_zpscbnjwhv7.mp4)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 08, 2015, 08:21:29 PM
Many thanks, Martin. That is an impressive train. With all those "Headland Brewery" vans, sales in SW Cornwall must, indeed, be booming!

The "Castle Estates" (light blue livery) are grateful that the "Castle Brewery" (dark blue livery) now has enough wagons and vans available for the pre-Christmas traffic together with hired in BR stock and a GWS (Bodmin) preserved 'Ale Van' used in Cornwall. A batch of LWB roller-bearing axlebox fitted high-capacity vans has been ordered for the "Castle Brewery" for more long distance traffic in express goods services but it is unlikely that any will be overhauled and reliveried before Christmas.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2015, 08:21:54 PM
Apologies. On watching I realise that the train is a tad too fast!
And I always moan about others running trains too quickly  :doh:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on December 08, 2015, 09:26:40 PM
We can't hang around waiting for good beer! :beers:
The driver is doing a sterling job.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 08, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
We can't hang around waiting for good beer! :beers:
The driver is doing a sterling job.

Now, you can see why the "Castle Brewery" is investing in vans more suited for high speeds! 8-)

Martin, I'm very curious about the BR Crimson & Cream coach in front of the Ivatt.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: lil chris on December 08, 2015, 09:47:44 PM
Perhaps the driver was in a hurry to get home Martin like mine last month with my 4F...........

Layout coming along nicely I see though,keep up the good work but keep those drivers off the beer.....
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 08, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
We can't hang around waiting for good beer! :beers:
The driver is doing a sterling job.

Now, you can see why the "Castle Brewery" is investing in vans more suited for high speeds! 8-)

Martin, I'm very curious about the BR Crimson & Cream coach in front of the Ivatt.
I'll get the details tomorrow and post a picture. It was the VERY first carriage I bought when I started in N gauge about 6 years ago !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 09, 2015, 08:01:15 AM
Thank you, Martin, I'd like to get one for 'through' running on local special services.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 11, 2015, 08:41:34 PM
Following on from the Cant Cove thread earlier this week, there has been a fair bitl of activity at Trepol Bay this week, some of which has been captured in the following photographs :

First we have  the local 08 shunter busy in the harbour assembling a train eventually bound for the Creech Brewery in Somerset. We see the 08 with four Headland Brewery vans which it will then attach to the two Castle Brewery wagons and the Sam's Cider van which have been placed on the rear siding. The whole train will be taking ales and ciders up to Somerset for the Festive Season via Cant Cove where it is expected that additional wagons will be added :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1710_zps66hhaagx.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1710_zps66hhaagx.jpg.html)
Next we see one of the very first of the season's Festive Specials setting off from Trepol Bay bound for Claverdon in the Midlands. The green class 52 is heading a rake of immaculately clean chocolate and cream stock (including a dining car) containing members of the local Lions Club visiting their colleagues in the Claverdon Club.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1711_zpslgl9zfll.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1711_zpslgl9zfll.jpg.html)
Next a Bodmin 45XX heads a WR GUV and a SR BY from Penmayne forming a local parcels train. It is seen here arriving at Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1712_zpsrvb67hoh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1712_zpsrvb67hoh.jpg.html)
Next we see a special conveying Christmas mail and perishable foods arriving from Penmayne behind a commendably clean 45XX from Bodmin shed in green livery :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1713_zpseydjpgv7.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1713_zpseydjpgv7.jpg.html)
We see the Christmas Shopper's Special from Penmayne to Truro which has been temporarily shunted (somewhat unceremoniously) into the siding at Trepol Bay awaiting the passing of a normal service train bound for Wadebridge. The railcar will shortly reverse its train back onto the main line to continue its journey. The occupants have been told that the train will be held at Trepol Bay for some 15 minutes and so passenger's have the opportunity to grab a swift "half" in the Station Hotel  (Sorry - the unusual camera angle didn't really work):
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1714_zpsr9tggsga.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1714_zpsr9tggsga.jpg.html)
Finally we see a most unusual working !  As part of preparations for the various Christmas Specials, stock is being moved around Cornwall to form the various special trains which will be originating from several locations. Here we see a 41XXX Ivatt tank (from Wadebridge shed) hauling a very mixed train (including an autocoach) towards Wadebridge. Many of these vehicles will be used in special trains over the next couple of weeks but today they are foming a normal timetabled train (which may well have confused the passengers somewhat!)  :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1715_zpssg97naj5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1715_zpssg97naj5.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 12, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
Many thanks for another excellent set of photos., Martin, of all the interesting special workings. It was worth trying a different camera angle.

I notice that not all the "Headland Brewery" vans have had their bufferbeams painted red. If you like, we can swop them for ones that will have their chassis, bufferbeams and buffers painted and you can then paint the bodies. After painting their bufferbeams, I can then send the completed "Headland Brewery" vans on to others?

I notice, too, that you have a CLPG preserved Southern Railway livery suburban (?) composite coach. I am awaiting delivery of a similar one but a Brake 3rd. If we can, both, get the other one of the pair, it will be a nice set for 'through' running of special trains. I will keep a search on eBay for them.

Lastly, nice to see your Minitrix BR Grey ShocVan, presumably delivering glass bottles for the "Headland Brewery"? I use mine for transporting new beer bottles to the "Castle Brewery", Cant Cove, and taking back broken ones for melting down and reuse at the same London glassworks. (I also have a rare BR Bauxite one.)

Two of the four Headland Brewery vans will be dropped off at Wadebridge to serve the local trade but the other two plus the Castle Brewery wagon and van with the "Sam's Cider" van will be working through to Cant Cove and the full and empty (cider) wagon and van plus Castle Brewery goods vehicles plus some hired BR vans will be worked through to Somerset for the Festive Season. (More vans and wagons have been ordered but, alas, are unlikely all to be ready before New Year.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: johnlambert on December 12, 2015, 08:36:31 PM
Next we see one of the very first of the season's Festive Specials setting off from Trepol Bay bound for Claverdon in the Midlands. The green class 52 is heading a rake of immaculately clean chocolate and cream stock (including a dining car) containing members of the local Lions Club visiting their colleagues in the Claverdon Club.
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The Western ran faultlessly and arrived in Claverdon at the booked time.  The station staff and representatives from the Claverdon Club were present to greet members of the Lions Club from Trepol Bay.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/11/thumb_32827.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=32827)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
Due to rationalisation of stock a certain amount of SR Green MK1 coaching stock has recently been transferred from the SR Eastern Division to Devon & Cornwall.
The first se to arrive in the Duchy is seen arriving at Trepol Bay behind BB 34065 Hurricane.
The last 3 carriages are new to the area and are (from the front), Mk 1 FO , Mk1 RMB (Mini Buffet) and Brake Corridor Composite. No doubt these carriages will be put to good use on through trains in the area:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1716_zpsd7xzz8fb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1716_zpsd7xzz8fb.jpg.html)
At least two of the Brake Corridor Composites will be used in the area and it is expected that a further example (shown here in close up) will be allocated to the Cant Cove area :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1717_zps5lgxak5v.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1717_zps5lgxak5v.jpg.html)
Meanwhile, in the harbour area, we see the local Class 08 propelling two empty open wagons with coke rails down to the waterside. This is in preparation for the arrival of the very first load of coke (by sea) for use at Hayle Power Station. It is hoped that this will , in future, be a regular freight working for the area :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1718_zpstmenobzf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1718_zpstmenobzf.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 13, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Many thanks for these excellent photos., Martin. I'm delighted that you ahve been able to add to your SR coaches. As I also have the same Mk 1 RMB (Restaurant Mini Buffet) S1849 (I think), and Brake Corridor Composite S21263 (I think) (but not a Mk 1 FO as they weren't, normally, seen in North Cornwall; but then I do have a very similar RFO and they weren't either!), they can be added to the stock list for 'through' running. As you know, BCKs were very common on the SR in the Southwest for through portions (e.g. of the "Atlantic Coast Express" which sheds its last portion for Trepol Bay, at Wadebridge, of course). A RMB is always very useful for both long distance and special trains. I also have the same BCK (without the yellow stripe), S21272 (I think) seen in the platform behind the new BCK. The new 'Blue Riband' standard coaches do look extremely good. (But, then, the previous standard, 'Made in China' ones still look very good to me and I still like the Minitrix ones!)

This week, (see Cant Cove), a new BR SR Green Mark 2 FK should arrive at Trepol Bay and will look very good with your new rake and with the new BCK for Penmayne.

Very good to see, too, that you now also have a BR Early Bauxite ex-SR 'Pillbox' brake van; another one for 'through' running! The Coke wagons are very nice models, too. I have some unboxed ones, bought to supply the Castle Estates' buildings' boilers and those of Trevelver Castle. I think I have two numbered the same, one with a fixed load an done without. I'll look them out and photograph them, when we have some sun!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 14, 2015, 07:50:39 AM
The Wadebridge yardmaster is anxiously awaiting the first of a series of pre-Christmas special stock transfer trains. He is very happy to know from his colleague, at Trepol Bay, that he has received some of the promised (and urgently needed at Trepol Bay) newly overhauled BR SR Green Mark 1 coaches rendered surplus by electrification of SR lines in the Southeast together with a brand new pair (as seen in the second photo.) from the last (1964) build of Mark 1 BCKs (S21263-S21275), ordered by the SR to replace the Bulleid design BCKs, for use in the "Atlantic Coast Express". The 'top secret', (because it will be a surprise for Lady Penelope of Trevelver Castle, Cant Cove), new BR SR Green Mark 2 FK is also due to arrive at Trepol Bay, this week, from Clapham Junction. It is being taken from the SR, at Plymouth, via the WR to Truro and Newquay, then Port Perran to Trepol Bay, but, it is not certain that it will arrive at Cant Cove before Christmas. However, he is looking forward to seeing a photo. of it.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2015, 08:41:48 PM
A few photos of activity at Trepol Bay today :
First a busy scene as we see the Cornwall Circular Railtour (part of the Christmas Special Railtour Programme)leaving for wadebridge behind BB 34065 Hurricane. An North British D63XX (Class 22)waits in the Bay Platform with the morning (9.37) departure for Cant Cove :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1719_zpsz4lxix5k.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1719_zpsz4lxix5k.jpg.html)
The CLPG's restored Collett Goods stands at the station with the Cornwall Midlander railtour to the Midlands via Withy Junction and which should pass through Claverdon later. Additional carriages will be attached as the train progresses through Cornwall & Devon. The collettt will work only as far as Truro. An M7 waits with a local for Cant Cove :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1720_zpsf95tzxhd.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1720_zpsf95tzxhd.jpg.html)
A busy scene as the mid morning parcels proceeds towards Wadebridge & Cant Cove behind a Hymek :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1721_zpsvwnxyihv.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1721_zpsvwnxyihv.jpg.html)
A quiet moment captured outside the Station Hotel. A 45XX is shunting the sidings whilst the post is being delivered locally. The Post Office has recently taken delivery of new land rovers to help with mail delivery in rural areas :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1722_zpsnsfctiqw.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1722_zpsnsfctiqw.jpg.html)
The CLPG's restored pannier leaves for Cant Cove with a shuttle containing one of the CLPG's new stores wagons and a newly restored ex GW suburban carriage :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1723_zps8h5aay0n.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1723_zps8h5aay0n.jpg.html)
Class 04 leaves headed for Cant Cove with a Castle Estates container :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1724_zpsffrys0kj.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1724_zpsffrys0kj.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 16, 2015, 09:24:18 PM
Many thanks for these excellent and interesting photos., Martin. I'm very happy that the WR BR Crimson & Cream BCK has arrived safely and is being put to use on the special Christmas Season through trains to Cant Cove and Penmayne, via Wadebridge, services. 34065, after arriving at Wadebridge, worked through to Penmayne where it was replaced by a N Class which took the train back to Wadebridge from where another BoB took the train on to Exeter. The N then worked through to Trepol Bay, tender first (the crew were NOT happy), with two BR SR Green carriages where it is seen, later, waiting to depart from the bay platform. The M7 and its train had to be terminated at Wadebridge and the passengers transferred to an Ivatt and 2 ex-LSWR suburban coaches. (Cant Cove is awaiting the return of its M7 from Eastleigh Works, next year, after its heavy general overhaul [alias DCC-fitting]. So, a D63XX was put on the two-coach special shuttle to Cant Cove and Penmayne, instead, as shown.The 'Hymek' worked through to Penmayne on the parcels and perishables train. Very nice to see the local Post Office Land Rover collecting / delivering the mail and parcels from Trepol Bay station. Both Cant Cove and Penmayne have one, too. Unfortunately, the CLPG's restored pannier only made it as far as Wadebridge with the shuttle for Cant Cove and Penmayne containing one of the CLPG's new stores wagons and a newly restored ex-GWR suburban carriage and the passengers had to transfer to an autocoach pulled by one of Wadebridge's ex-WR pannier tanks. The carriage and van had to be stopped with 'hot boxes' but will be working, again, to Cant Cove and Penmayne, in the New Year. However, as the GWS (Bodmin's) preserved pannier tank has been stopped for more major repairs it was unable to replace the CLPG (Port Perran)'s. The Drewry 204bhp shunter (later Class 04) is working a special train of one "Castle Estates" container to the end of the Castle Branch where it will be unloaded and taken to the Castle with fresh produce needed for the pre-Christmas Charity Ball dinner. Photos taken at Cant Cove will follow, later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 16, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
Many thanks for these excellent adn interesting photos., Martin. I'm very happy that the WR BR Crimson & Cream BCK has arrived safely and is being put to use on the special Christmas Season through trains to Cant Cove and Penmayne, via Wadebridge, services. However, that looks like a North British D63XX to me. 34065, after arriving at Wadebridge, worked through to Penmayne where it was replaced by a N Class which took the train back to Wadebridge from where another BoB took the train on to Exeter. The N then worked through to Trepol Bay, tender first (the crew were NOT happy), with two BR SR Green carraiges wher eit is seen, later, waiting to depart from the bay platform. The M7 and its train had to be terminated at Wadebridge and the passengers transferred to an Ivatt and 2 ex-LSWR suburban coaches. The 'Hymek' worked through to Penmayne on the parcels and perishables train. Very nice to see the local Post Office Land Rover collecting / delivering the mail and parcels from Trepol Bay station. Unfortunately, the CLPG's restored pannier only made it as far as Wadebridge with the shuttle for Cant Cove and Penmayne containing one of the CLPG's new stores wagons and a newly restored ex-GWR suburban carriage and the passengers had to transfer to an autocoach pulled by one of Wadebridge's ex-WR pannier tanks. The carriage and van had to be stopped with 'hot boxes' but will be working, again, to Cant Cove and Penmayne, in the New Year. However, as the GWS (Bodmin's) preserved pannier tank has been stopped for more major repairs it was unable to replace the CLPG (Port Perran)'s. The Drewry 204bhp shunter (later Class 04) is working a special train of one "Castle Estates" container to the end of the Castle Branch where it will be unloaded and taken to the Castle with fresh produce needed for the pre-Christmas Charity Ball dinner. Photos taken at Cant Cove will follow, later.
Apologies! That N is indeed a North British D63XX (Class 22).
Got my pictures muddled. Now edited !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2015, 06:19:35 PM
No problem, Martin. We can delete those references to the error. I've done that in my post. 8-)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 17, 2015, 08:18:58 PM
Just a couple more photographs of trains leaving Trepol Bay for Cant Cove earlier today.
First we have one of Bodmin's clean small praries with a Christmas extra mail and parcels (ex Truro) departing Trepol Bay at 10.34am :
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Next we see an Ivatt 2-6-2T departing for the same destination some 25 minutes later with a VERY mixed train.
The parcels van at the front has been pressed into use (at short notice) to transport Christmas Tress (from Trepol Bay Woods) to Penmayne. The two blue Castle Estates wagons and the brakevan are being worhed back empty to Cant Cove. The carriage is conveying members of the CLPG (Trepol Bay Branch) to a Christmas Lunch with their colleagues from Cant Cove at the Station Hotel. The final two wagons convey goods from South wales which landed at Trepol Bay by ship last evening. An interesting line up indeed :
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Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2015, 08:57:58 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for these updates. I will be posting the arrival photos., I hope, tomorrow. A very interesting mix of trains, indeed. The first train, the Christmas extra mail and parcels (ex Truro) will stop at Cant Cove to leave the SR BG for the Castle Branch (what has Lady Penelope been ordering now?) before proceeding on to Penmayne with the BR LWB Pallet Van full of perishable goods (Norfolk turkeys) and the BR GUV which will be unloaded by the postal workers including the temporary staff. Nice to see one of the special ex-SR LWB Brake Vans, usually on the back of unbraked goods trains descending to Trepol Bay Harbour, bringing up the rear of the mixed train to Penmayne. The CLPG Annual Christmas Lunch, held this year at "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, and sponsored by the "Castle Brewery" with specially selected guest ales also from the "Headland" and "Creech" breweries and cider from "Sam's", is always a very enjoyable occassion. Before lunch is served, the 'Chelsea Girls' will be showing the selection of Cornish railway movies that had been part of their recent touring show and providing waitress service from the bar including the latest special beer from the "Castle Brewery", a top secret until the lunch to all but a few trusted local beer tasters! The hotel chef is serving a selection of the most popular seasonal dishes recently provided on the special preview trains. The ex-GWR railcar has been booked for the return journey but may well have a tail load in view of the pre-Christmas express goods traffic within Cornwall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 17, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
The ex GW railcar (seen in the siding in the pictures) will be working a service train up to Cant Cove later in the day and will be held over upon arrival in order to return the revellers to Trepol Bay.
The Trepol Branch of the CLPG have with them (on board their carriage) 4 crates of the Headland Brewery Special Christmas Dark Ale (Santa's Treat - 5.9%). A bottle will be presented to each member of the  Cant Cove branch as a souvenir of today's luncheon.
I wonder how many of those bottles will remain unopened at the end of the afternoon ?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 17, 2015, 09:45:51 PM
Thanks, again, Martin. Although, normally, the 'Chelsea Girls' are more than capable of looking after themselves, Sylvia has taken the precaution of asking the Castle Head Butler, ex-SAS, and very fond of all the 'Girls', to be sitting at the hotel bar, during the lunch, sipping "Castle" mineral water, smoking a cigar and reading "Horse & Hound" in case any guests get too exuberant! Lord and Lady Trevelver have readily agreed to the Head Butler being excused from duties at the Castle at this time. Sylvia's reprobate elder brother, Gerald, (who 'manages' "The Railway Hotel"; actually the upstairs duty managers and the landlord downstairs, do) has been taken away by his long-suffering wife to Penmayne to do Christmas shopping at this time. Cant Cove's local bobby (who plays for Wadebridge Camels RFC) has also agreed to 'pop in' during the afternoon for tea and mince pies (not the infamous but very delicious VERY alcoholic ones from the North Cornwall Pasty Co.). So, all should go very well. Tomorrow, the "Castle Brewery" will officially announce the new beer premiered at the CLPG lunch.

There is still the GWS (Bodmin & Trepol Bay) Christmas Dinner to come (this year held at the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, and sponsored by the Headland Brewery, as well as the Alliance for Cornwall's Railways Christmas Grand Dinner and Award Ceremony, at Trevelver Castle, which will require special through coaches / trains from all over Cornwall to Cant Cove (the special trains / extra coaches will, as far as possible, be stabled at Wadebridge). Local enthusiasts are waiting to see what locos. will haul the special trains and which coaches will be found to strengthen already very busy trains in Christmas week.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Later this evening, John Peverill, Chairman of The Alliance of West Country Breweries is expected to make a surprise announcement at a hastily arranged Press Conference at the premises of the Headland Brewery located on Trepol Bay Harbour. 
A special train has been laid on from Cant Cove conveying senior staff representatives from the Castle Brewery. Unfortunately, due to the haste with which the press conference has been arranged, representatives from other breweries within the AWCB will be unable to attend but they are expected to benefit  from the announcement.
News of the impending Press Conference has spread rapidly and there is much speculation in the area as to what the announcement could involve...........
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2015, 05:39:53 PM
To convey a party from the "Castle Brewery" to Trepol Bay for the surprise press conference, Wadebridge's spare BR WR Crimson & Cream BCK has just been added to a parcels train due to pass through Trepol Bay on its way to Truro and then Somerset.

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Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
The BCK was taken off the train at Trepol Bay and shunted into the Bay platform by an ex GW pannier that happened to be on shed at the right moment :
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The party from the Castle Brewery then made their way to the station entrance where they boarded a Southern National bus to take them down to the harbour. The bus is seen having just descended the harbour bridge and is passing the old WW2 pillbox :
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(I'm afraid we have to imagine the passengers on the bus !
There was much discussion on board the bus as the staff from the Castle Brewery had been given no indication as to what the press conference was about.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
At 5-30pm precisely John Peverill addressed the meeting with some very good news.  The Alliance of West Country Breweries which currently includes breweries from Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Somerset has signed an agreement with the Shepherd Neame Brewery of Faversham in Kent.
The Kent Brewery has agreed to exclusively supply its wares to Breweries and public houses signed up to the AWCB.
In return the AWCB will supply its products to public houses run by Shepherds Neame.
Amid great secrecy, two Shepherd Neame vans travelled to Cornwall over night (the vans covered in tarpaulins).
They are seen this evening parked outside the Headland Brewery Distribution Depot . John Peverill has just performed the "unveiling ceremony" by removing the tarpaulins.
There will be a celebratory meal this evening in the Station Hotel which will be attended by members of the AWCB, Directorss and Senior staff of both Headland and Castle Breweries and Directors from Shepherd Neame (who travelled down to Cornwall by train earlier).
It is expected that Shepherd Neame wagons will become a common sight in North Cornwall in future.
The official publicity photo is below :
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John the tractor driver seems to have a good view of proceedings !

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: austinbob on December 18, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
At 5-30pm precisely John Peverill addressed the meeting with some very good news.  The Alliance of West Country Breweries which currently includes breweries from Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Somerset has signed an agreement with the Shepherd Neame Brewery of Faversham in Kent.
The Kent Brewery has agreed to exclusively supply its wares to Breweries and public houses signed up to the AWCB.
In return the AWCB will supply its products to public houses run by Shepherds Neame.
Amid great secrecy, two Shepherd Neame vans travelled to Cornwall over night (the vans covered in tarpaulins).
They are seen this evening parked outside the Headland Brewery Distribution Depot . John Peverill has just performed the "unveiling ceremony" by removing the tarpaulins.
There will be a celebratory meal this evening in the Station Hotel which will be attended by members of the AWCB, Directorss and Senior staff of both Headland and Castle Breweries and Directors from Shepherd Neame (who travelled down to Cornwall by train earlier).
It is expected that Shepherd Neame wagons will become a common sight in North Cornwall in future.
The official publicity photo is below :
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John the tractor driver seems to have a good view of proceedings !

You have a wonderful turn of phrase port perran.
I always look forward to the latest news for Trepol Bay!!
 :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2015, 07:02:18 PM
Meanwhile, the cascading down of carriages from the Southern Region's Eastern Division continues apace.

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Here we see the through portion of a train from waterloo arriving at trepol Bay at 17.25. The first carriage is a corridor 1st which will (from now on) be allocated to North Cornwall (likely to be based at Cant Cove early in the New Year).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 18, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
Although all those attending the surprise press conference at the "Headlands Brewery' distribution centre, in Trepol Bay Harbour, are true Cornish patriots, after sampling a selection of the products of Britain's oldest brewer, based in Kent the Garden of England, they had to admit that the brewery's quintessentially Kentish hoppy ales were excellent.

The Wadebridge yardmaster is very relieved that the brand new BR Mark 2 FK in SR Green, transferred from Clapham Junction, finally arrived in the Trepol Bay portion of an express from Waterloo. The underneath of the carriage and bogies show some dust and dirt from their long journey but the bodysides are still clean enough to meet Lady Penelope's demanding standards! (The FK will be transferred to Penmayne, in the New Year, almost certainly by the same local 'N', especially cleaned, a striking combination of the 'old and the new'. The FK is for Waterloo services, including the Penmayne portion of the "Atlantic Coast Express".)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on December 18, 2015, 08:40:29 PM
Although surprised, Creech Ales and Sam's Cider are delighted with the news and are awaiting the first delivery. Meanwhile a selection of ales and ciders will be made up for distribution by Shepherd Neame Brewery.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 18, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
Although surprised, Creech Ales and Sam's Cider are delighted with the news and are awaiting the first delivery. Meanwhile a selection of ales and ciders will be made up for distribution by Shepherd Neame Brewery.
That's good to hear. If you want one of the Shepherd's Neame vans they are available from The Hobby Shop at Faversham.
No doubt a SN wagon will be included in the next goods train to Somerset.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
Plans are already being discussed, in Cornwall, for an enthusiasts' special train (if not BR Maroon Mark 1s, maybe Gresley-designed stock in BR Lined Maroon?), with full catering on board, of course, next summer, to run to Perthshire, to visit the Perthshire Railway Preservation Society, with an overnight stop in the West Midlands. The members of the Cornish Loco. Preservation Group and the Great Western Society are keen to see something different. They have invited their colleagues from the Mid-Somerset Preservation Society to join them. The Alliance of West Country Breweries are going to send samples of their most popular ales plus "Sam's Cider" from Somerset with the train (naturally, with supplies for the passengers, too) and are hoping to negotiate a sampling visit and a trading agreement with a local malt whisky distillery.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 19, 2015, 10:55:08 AM
Although surprised, Creech Ales and Sam's Cider are delighted with the news and are awaiting the first delivery. Meanwhile a selection of ales and ciders will be made up for distribution by Shepherd Neame Brewery.

The directors of the "Castle Brewery" were just a surprised as those of "Creech Ales" and "Sam's Cider" but, this morning, the background (reported on my Cant Cove thread) to this surprising turn of events has been revealed by Sylvia and it now all makes perfect sense. The directors of the "Castle Brewery" were so impressed with the hoppy Kentish Ales that they have ordered a third "Shepherd Neame" van for January delivery for the scheduled weekly goods train from North & West Cornwall (combined at Wadebridge then, usually routed via the WR but, sometimes, also the SR) to Withy Junction and Durscombe.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 23, 2015, 08:55:13 AM
An announcement this morning by the CLPG confirms a Cornwall Circular Ale and Raik tour scheduled to depart Penzance on Boxing Day.
Tickets at 5-00!to include 5 pints at selected public houses.
Full details and pictures on the day will follow.
Speculation is, of course, mounting as to choice of locomotives and rolling stock.
Tickets are expected to sell like hot cakes!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on December 23, 2015, 05:20:51 PM
Perhaps by the end of the day it will be more like an elliptical tour. :pint: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 23, 2015, 05:51:14 PM
Perhaps by the end of the day it will be more like an elliptical tour. :pint: :thumbsup:
Hope so, I've booked my ticket.  :beers:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: trkilliman on December 23, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Is the Atlantic Inn, Porthleven on the list...this is a favourite of mine. Literally overlooks the Atlantic...and great ales too!
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 23, 2015, 07:33:39 PM
An announcement this morning by the CLPG confirms a Cornwall Circular Ale and Raik tour scheduled to depart Penzance on Boxing Day.
Tickets at 5-00!to include 5 pints at selected public houses.
Full details and pictures on the day will follow.
Speculation is, of course, mounting as to choice of locomotives and rolling stock.
Tickets are expected to sell like hot cakes!

That sounds like it will be a very popular tour, Martin. Will refreshments also be served on the train? Will the pubs only be those within walking (staggering?) distance or will special connecting buses be organised, too? There should be quite a few suitable locos. in the area prepared for the Christmas and New Year specials.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 24, 2015, 05:42:35 PM
An announcement this morning by the CLPG confirms a Cornwall Circular Ale and Raik tour scheduled to depart Penzance on Boxing Day.
Tickets at 5-00!to include 5 pints at selected public houses.
Full details and pictures on the day will follow.
Speculation is, of course, mounting as to choice of locomotives and rolling stock.
Tickets are expected to sell like hot cakes!

That sounds like it will be a very popular tour, Martin. Will refreshments also be served on the train? Will the pubs only be those within walking (staggering?) distance or will special connecting buses be organised, too? There should be quite a few suitable locos. in the area prepared for the Christmas and New Year specials.
The tour is now fully booked. All 200 seats eagerly snapped up.  Refreshments will indeed be served on board together with sample ales and hot punch.
All pubs will be in walking distance of station stops where the train will be held over in various bay platforms, station sidings or passing loops.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 24, 2015, 05:49:47 PM
An early evening Christmas Eve scene at Trepol Bay.
Services will be somewhat reduced after 5-00pm although this being the early 1960s, a Sunday service will continue into Christmas Day.
We see here a pannier with mixed stock waiting in the Bay Platform with a special evening departure transporting locals to the early evening evening carol concert at Truro Cathedral. Special buses will be laid on at Truro to take passengers the mile or so down the hill to the cathedral.
A return train will leave Truro at 10.00, hopefully returning to Trepol Bay before closing time.
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All the lights are on in the Station Hotel which expects to be packed to the gunnels all evening. The Trepol Bay Diner (the grounded coach body) is hosting a Christmas Party for local pensioners.
The signal box is also well lit (the cook at the Diner having earlier taken up some very welcome hot mince pies). Albert the signalman is due off duty at 11-00pm which gives him ample opportunity for a pint or three in the Station Hotel later which will be serving several guest ales.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 24, 2015, 09:09:30 PM
Thank you, Martin, for those very atmospheric photos., Martin, and the update. The "Station Hotel" must have a Christmas Eve bar extension licence. The snow in North Cornwall has yet to reach northwest Cornwall, I see. 8-)

A special train of one of Wadebridge's Ivatts, plus a SR BCK and SK, was run from Penmayne to Trepol Bay calling at Cant Cove and Wadebridge timed to connect with the departure transporting locals to and from the early evening evening carol concert at Truro Cathedral. (Photo. to come.) As usual at such times, the Penmayne based train crew were each given a crate of specially selected bottled ales, courtesy of the "Castle Brewery" once they had signed off at Penmayne depot. This year, it was a selection from the most popular ales from the Alliance of West Country Breweries. The 'Chelsea Girls' dressed as Santa's Elves were on the special to and from Trepol Bay collecting for this year's chosen charity. Inbetween times, they warmed themselves in the "Station Hotel", across the road, enjoying a selection of Christmas themed cocktails! Alas, they were told, their Christmas van is still awaiting spare parts from Germany.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 26, 2015, 10:43:32 AM
Is the Atlantic Inn, Porthleven on the list...this is a favourite of mine. Literally overlooks the Atlantic...and great ales too!
Alas, it's too far from the railway so no but like you, it is a favourite of mine.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 26, 2015, 10:54:59 AM
The Boxing Day Ale and Rail Spectacular tour is due to depart Trepol Bay at 11.30.
Here we see BB no 34065 Hurricane hauling the empty coaching stock into Trepol Bay station.
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The 200 ticket holders have been treated to a Boxing Day breakfast in the Station Hotel prior to departure.
The route is as follows :
11-30 off Trepol Bay with 34065.
12.00 Port Perran and a visit to the Cornish Arms.
13.00 Truro with a visit to the Old Crab and Ale House
14.00 Leave Truro behind a Hall 4-6-0 for Penzance and a visit to The Longboat Inn
15.15 Leave Penzance bound for Liskeard behind a County 4-6-0 then a visit to The Old Stag
16.15 Depart Liskeard (still with the County).
17.10 Arrive Plymouth.
17.25 Depart Plymouth bound for Okehampton behind a Manor 4-6-0
18.35 Arrive Okehampton and a Visit to the Fountain Inn
19.40 Deart Okehampton bound for Cant Cove and a visit to the Station Hotel behind an N 2-6-0
20.50 Depart Cant Cove for Trepol Bay behind a T9 4-4-0
21.15 Arrive Trepol Bay where a late supper will be served.
Hopefully and enjoyable day wll be had by all !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 26, 2015, 02:32:13 PM
Sounds like an excellent day out, Martin. The Breton head chef "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove, has prepared an especially filling range of warm buffet snacks to help 'soak up' the ales whilst complimenting their varied flavours. The 'Chelsea Girls' will be travelling on the train providing a  trolley service of refreshments (regularly replenished from supplies in the guard's van and the accompanying CCT) whilst collecting for the season's charity and taking care of anyone who becomes a 'little the worse for wear' with "Castle Estate" mineral waters and natural and pharmaceutical remedies for upset stomachs and throbbing heads!

A photo. of the special train arriving at Cant Cove for the visit to "The Station Hotel", behind an Exmouth Junction N 2-6-0 will appear in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 26, 2015, 02:41:04 PM
Eli is very grateful to her Breton and Cornish friends for enabling her to cross safely and quickly from Port Regleun to Trepol Bay and especially charmed by the Trepol Bay railwaymen who gallantly provided a brand new BCK to take her, in style, up to the station where her carriage was added to the next special Christmas timetable through train to Penmayne. Everyone involved got a big Breton hug and a Gallic style kiss on both cheeks from the excited young Breton woman. Stepping off the train, at Cant Cove station, Eli was delighted to find the Castle's Head Butler (alerted by telegram from Trepol Bay) waiting to take her and her suitcase up to the Castle to await the return of the other 'Chelsea Girls'.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on December 26, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Yes, an eventful day at Trepol Bay all round.
The green BCK was added to the 13.05 departure which was headed by an Ivatt 2-6-2T.
The station is quieter now but is expecting a rather eventful and perhaps rowdy ten minutes or so once the special ale train arrives and the passengers make their way to the Station Hotel all carefully clutching the commemorative half pint tankards with which they were issued as they boarded the train.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 26, 2015, 04:57:47 PM
The local police and some burly railwaymen will be on duty at Trepol Bay and Wadebridge to ensure that there is no trouble with the special's passengers. The police will also look in, at regular intervals, at the "Station Hotel", whilst off-duty railway staff will be in the hotel's public bar should the barmaids need any assistance with unruly customers!

After Trepol Bay, the special train will terminate at Wadebridge where the train will then be stabled and cleaned ready for use on Boxing Day, the Wadebridge staff having drawn the short straw so that the Trepol Bay staff can book off as early as possible to enjoy Christmas evening. An all teetotal Methodist crew have been booked to staff the train the following day, travelling there in an ex-GWR diesel railcar which had previously formed the very last train of the day to Port Perran.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 01, 2016, 01:12:49 PM
A very busy scene captured at Trepol Bay earlier this morning :
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The Standard 4 2-6-4T is heading a special New Year working to the Midlands "The Heart of Englander" which originated in North Cornwall and will travel via Truro and Exeter (additional carriages will be attached at both locations).  The special will be double headed from Truro (where a Hall will be added) to Exeter where a Castle 4-6-0 will take over.
In the bay is a single car unit with auto coach attached forming a special New Year's Day shuttle from Trepol Bay to Wadebridge and Cant Cove.
Also in view is an M7 at the head of empty parcels stock and a Class 22 which is stabled awaiting a later train to Wadebridge.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2016, 02:33:03 PM
Good afternoon, Martin. It is, indeed, a very busy time at Trepol Bay. Good to see the BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T is being given a good run. The single car unit with auto coach attached forming a special New Year's Day shuttle from Trepol Bay to Wadebridge and Cant Cove is crewed by devout Methodist teetotaller volunteers and will terminate at Penmayne before returning, stopping at the same places. Running a through service from Penamyne to Trepol Bay and return saves a train crew enabling more railway staff to enjoy a day off.

The 'Chelsea Girls' and their friends, as well as most of the household at Trevelver Castle, are enjoying a sleep-in after the New Year's Ball finished with an early buffet breakfast. Similarly, "The Station Hotel", Cant Cove is closed until the evening.
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Post by: port perran on January 01, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
Good afternoon, Martin. It is, indeed, a very busy time at Trepol Bay. Good to see the BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T is being given a good run.
I thought I ought to give it a run just to keep it in good order. I have to say that it performs absolutely perfectly. Looking forward to seeing it in action at Cant Cove eventually.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2016, 03:02:32 PM
Good afternoon, Martin. It is, indeed, a very busy time at Trepol Bay. Good to see the BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T is being given a good run.
I thought I ought to give it a run just to keep it in good order. I have to say that it performs absolutely perfectly. Looking forward to seeing it in action at Cant Cove eventually.

Many thanks, Martin. I think it will be on loan to Trepol Bay for a while yet as there are a few other locos. ahead of it in the queue for DCC fitting like D1662 "IKB" needed for the 1965 Specials, plus a BR Black Early Crest detailed 4575 class Small Prairie BR Black Early Crest 5544 (for 'through' running). Not to mention buying a T9 and getting that DCC-fitted. Maybe, also a new Dapol BR Black Early Crest 57XX (also for 'through' running)?
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Post by: port perran on January 01, 2016, 03:06:39 PM
Good afternoon, Martin. It is, indeed, a very busy time at Trepol Bay. Good to see the BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T is being given a good run.
I thought I ought to give it a run just to keep it in good order. I have to say that it performs absolutely perfectly. Looking forward to seeing it in action at Cant Cove eventually.

Many thanks, Martin. I think it will be on loan to Trepol Bay for a while yet as there are a few other locos. ahead of it in the queue for DCC fitting like D1662 "IKB" needed for the 1965 Specials, plus a BR Black Early Crest detailed 4575 class Small Prairie BR Black Early Crest 5544 (for 'through' running). Not to mention buying a T9 and getting that DCC-fitted. Maybe, also a new Dapol BR Black Early Crest 57XX (also for 'through' running)?
As you are probably aware, I have 3 of the Dapol 57XXs (two black). I am , hoever, tempted by one of the neww 64XX series when they hit the shops ?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 01, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
I currently only have the one Dapol BR Black Late Crest 57XX, representing one of Wadebridge's pair. However, I also have a Graham Farish BR Black Late Crest detailed class 57XX, a Graham Farish by Bachmann 8750 Pannier Tank BR Black Late Crest, and a 8750 Pannier Tank Engine GWR Green (GWS Bomin preserved) all awaiting DCC-fitting. Maybe, I should sell the Graham Farish by Bachmann 8750 Pannier Tank BR Black Late Crest as I only need two to represent Wadebridge's allocation and buy a Dapol BR Black Early Crest one to represent a BR Bodmin allocated one?

I'm trying to resist buying a 64XX when they come out because, although Plymouth Laira did have an allocation of a few at one time, they never worked in North or Northwest Cornwall.
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Post by: port perran on January 15, 2016, 07:16:40 PM
The Great Western Demonstration train ran through Trepol Bay today headed by the restored Dean Goods 0-6-0 :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1786_zpsrnokcxiy.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1786_zpsrnokcxiy.jpg.html)
The train which originated at Wadebridge is seen heading towards Chacewater and Truro from where is is expected to make a run up to Somerset over the next few days.

Container traffic is seen more frequently through Trepol Bay these days. Indeed we see a train heading towards Truro containing various containers including one each in ex GW and SR livery, 2 containing perishable goods, one in BR brown livery, one in the livery of Prisk & Jones Veg merchants and one (in the wagon) in grey livery :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1787_zps9hlcsgli.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1787_zps9hlcsgli.jpg.html)

More container traffic is also being handled in the port. We see various containers (including one from the Castle Estates) having been unloaded from a ship and awaiting transfer (along with pallets of pipes) to a train of conflats which will be worked down to the harbour later. They will be loaded onto the conflats by the harbour crane :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1788_zpsftl13bpi.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1788_zpsftl13bpi.jpg.html)

Finally, a fairly unusual working of locomotive coal passes through the station headed by an 08 and headed for Cant Cove :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1789_zpsyd99xce4.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1789_zpsyd99xce4.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 15, 2016, 07:40:00 PM
Many thanks, Marin, for these photos. I will post some pictures of the spare GWR livery wagons and vans the GWS Bodmin has discovered which duplicate ones in its demonstration GWR goods train.

There is an interesting train behind the M7.

The GWR Loco Coal bogie wagon must be one of the pair which was photographed leaving Withy Junction with best Somerset steam coal for Cornwall. I need to take a picture of the one for the CLPG and GWS (Bodmin) arriving at Cant Cove.

Conflat containers in "Castle Brewery" livery and "North Cornwall Pasty Co." livery plus one in undercoat for the Trepol Bay Wagon Works to paint in "Headland Brewery" colours will be dispatched to Repol Bay in a week or two. More containers are being sought by the Purchasing Manager of the "Castle Estates" on behalf of the "Headland Brewery", "North Cornwall Pasty Co." and "Sam's Cider" (including for export / import cider traffic to / from Britanny). It is rumoured that the "Creech Brewery", Somerset, is also interested in trying out Container delivery, too. Meanwhile, the "Castle Brewery" is considering re-introducing a dray drawn by two horses for local deliveries.

The Wadebridge yardmaster was pleased to see the sidings finally clear of all the goods stock being held for overhaul and painting by the CLPG at Cant Cove. However, he has ben warned that more goods and passenger stock is expected via the West Midlands, including more destined for Withy Junction and Durscombe, Somerst.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 15, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
The M7 is waiting at the head of the schools train to Wadebridge.
The empty SR parcels needed to be worked back to Wadebridge so has been added to the schools train to avoid an additional movement later.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 15, 2016, 08:03:23 PM
The M7 is waiting at the head of the schools train to Wadebridge.
The empty SR parcels needed to be worked back to Wadebridge so has been added to the schools train to avoid an additional movement later.

Ah, now, I understand, Martin. BR SR Green BGs being pretty rare, the Wadebridge yardmaster has not, yet, been able to get his hands on one for traffic to Withy Junction and Durscombe as S80893 (the latest) and S81510 are in regular use within Cornwall.
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Post by: Mito on January 15, 2016, 09:07:15 PM
The yardmaster at Durscombe Sidings is getting a little worried that there will be insufficient room for the influx of wagons from Cornwall.  Some may have to be kept at Withy Jct. until space can be allocated at Durscombe.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2016, 08:06:25 PM
So.......after about 6 weeks or so of no modelling (although I have been running trains) I started work again today on the far left corner of Trepol Bay.
I completed the tunnel mouth for the narrow gauge line, painted the canal towpath, boxed in (partly) the overbridge that carries the main line to Port Perran over the canal and gave the canal itself the first layer of yacht varnish (several more to come).
Also picked out a couple of suitable largish trees to go in the meadow.
I find that taking a break from modelling from time to time  renews my enthusiasm and provides fresh inspiration.
Once the corner is finished, I must move on to creating the baseboards for the new Port Perran layout. Now there's a challenge !!  The corner provides the all important link between Trepol Bay and the new layout so needs to be fully completed first.
Pictures in due course.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2016, 08:19:01 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. of Trepol Bay in due course and then the progress reports from the new Port Perran. I hope you'll be able to save a lot from the old one which I was very fond of but I fully understand why it has to be replaced.
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Post by: port perran on January 17, 2016, 08:24:01 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. of Trepol Bay in due course and then the progress reports from the new Port Perran. I hope you'll be able to save a lot from the old one which I was very fond of but I fully understand why it has to be replaced.
I certainly hope to replicate a lot of the old Port Perran. It will become a long thin layout rather than a 6ft X 3ft roundy roundy. Lanharrack station will remain but on a straight between Trepol Bay and Port Perran itself. The sea wall at Port Perran will remain along with the goods yard. The one thing which will disappear (regrettably) will be Port Perran cricket ground. I will have no room for that !
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Post by: Chris in Prague on January 17, 2016, 08:33:14 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. of Trepol Bay in due course and then the progress reports from the new Port Perran. I hope you'll be able to save a lot from the old one which I was very fond of but I fully understand why it has to be replaced.
I certainly hope to replicate a lot of the old Port Perran. It will become a long thin layout rather than a 6ft X 3ft roundy roundy. Lanharrack station will remain but on a straight between Trepol Bay and Port Perran itself. The sea wall at Port Perran will remain along with the goods yard. The one thing which will disappear (regrettably) will be Port Perran cricket ground. I will have no room for that !

Very sorry to read about the loss of the Port Perran cricket ground; however, it will live on 'off stage', I'm sure. However, it's very good news that most of the rest of the key features will remain but looking even better, I'm sure. Long and thin will mean more photo. opportunities for trains though and you can, I think, still watch trains go around at Trepol Bay?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 17, 2016, 09:38:21 PM
Thanks for the update, Martin. I look forward to the photos. of Trepol Bay in due course and then the progress reports from the new Port Perran. I hope you'll be able to save a lot from the old one which I was very fond of but I fully understand why it has to be replaced.
I certainly hope to replicate a lot of the old Port Perran. It will become a long thin layout rather than a 6ft X 3ft roundy roundy. Lanharrack station will remain but on a straight between Trepol Bay and Port Perran itself. The sea wall at Port Perran will remain along with the goods yard. The one thing which will disappear (regrettably) will be Port Perran cricket ground. I will have no room for that !

Very sorry to read about the loss of the Port Perran cricket ground; however, it will live on 'off stage', I'm sure. However, it's very good news that most of the rest of the key features will remain but looking even better, I'm sure. Long and thin will mean more photo. opportunities for trains though and you can, I think, still watch trains go around at Trepol Bay?
Definitely. I also want to add a very small loop (hidden) behind the new Port Perran to enable me to run trains round and round as well as creating authentic movements in and out.
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Post by: cornish yorkie on January 17, 2016, 11:22:00 PM
 :hellosign: Martin, thanks for the updates & look forward to future developments
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on January 24, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
I've pretty much finished the left hand corner of Trepol Bay today (just waiting for Mrs PP to expertly paint the sky on the backboard for me).
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1790_zpsesduudje.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1790_zpsesduudje.jpg.html)
Here we see the finished extension. The brick tunnel mouth takes the abandoned narrow gauge line into the tunnel.  At the back we see the link to the main line to the new Port Perran . This will eventually be a one foot long girder bridge to the new baseboard.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1792_zpsipasphpg.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1792_zpsipasphpg.jpg.html)
This picture shows how it links into the main trepol Bay layout.  It will all come together once the backboard is painted.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1793_zps2v2vqbce.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1793_zps2v2vqbce.jpg.html)
Another overall view. The backboards will be properly aligned once painted.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1794_zps8xjuheep.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1794_zps8xjuheep.jpg.html)
Finally I've balanced the first span of the girder bridge in place which will form the link to Port Perran.  Trains will run from Trepol Bay station via the fiddle yard down to Port Perran over the bridge.
Now the corner is pretty much finished, I can start on the baseboards for the new Port Perran layout in a couple of weeks time. I'll be too busy doing other stuff for the nest week or so.
I'll be setting the old Port Perran up for one  final time for some pictures before the whole thing is dismantled ready for version two.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2016, 08:31:35 PM
Many thanks for the update, Martin. Really excellent work with all the landscaping in place it looks highly realistic. I had been looking forward to seeing this update. Nice to see the campers' tent in place.

A last photo session of the old Port Perran is an excellent idea.
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Post by: Mito on January 24, 2016, 09:13:38 PM
Great modeling :thumbsup: Looking forward to seeing the new Port Perran.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2016, 10:02:13 PM
Great modeling :thumbsup: Looking forward to seeing the new Port Perran.

Me, too, Brian. 8-)
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Post by: port perran on January 27, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
A few new wagons have appeared around Trepol Bay today reflecting some changes in traffic flows in the area :

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1795_zpsiwm4jcso.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1795_zpsiwm4jcso.jpg.html)
The headland Brewery now have reciprocal arrangements with an increasing number of breweries around the country. Two new additions include Bass Charrington and Worthington (from Burton). Here we see the local Class 04 shunter about to depart the Headland Brewery depot with a rake of loaded vans. From the front we have the following vans - Sam's Cider, Castle Estates, Headland Brewery, Bass, Worthington & Shepherd's Neame.
The vans will be worked up the incline from the harbour to the storage sidings on the main line and will eventually form a train out of the County.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1796_zps8l8c0acm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1796_zps8l8c0acm.jpg.html)
There has been an increase in container traffic into and out of North Cornwall over the last six months. Here we see a train headed by a pannier from the Truro area and headed for Wadebridge.  (The 2nd & 3rd conflats and containers have arrived today courtesy of Chris in Prague).
Another pannier stands in the yard (behind the signal box) whilst in the harbour sidings stand a rake of Headland Brewery vans plus a fish van and a PO wagon loaded with sand. These wagons will later be worked up to the main line for onward transportation.

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 27, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Thanks for the update photos., Martin. An impressive collection. I must admit that I had not realised that you already had a BR Conflat with large BR Crimson Container (the last Conflat in the train). The 2nd and 3rd ones will be able to work 'through' also to Withy Junction and Durscombe. Both the trains can work 'through' to Cant Cove and Penmayne. I will post a picture of my brewery van train when we have some sun.

More vans, wagons, and containers are being readied for dispatch to Wadebridge, this Friday.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on January 27, 2016, 08:49:09 PM
You live in a glorious part of the world with such a choice of beers and cider. :beers:
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Post by: austinbob on January 27, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
Trepol Bay continues to impress and make us mere mortals drool even more.
Wonderful.
 :beers:
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Post by: cornish yorkie on January 28, 2016, 11:49:21 PM
 :hellosign:  Martin,    :greatpicturessign: of your wonderful layout  :thankyousign:  for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 07, 2016, 04:09:56 PM
Mrs PP has very kindly painted the backboard for the left hand scenic corner of Trepol Bay this afternoon which obviously needed to fit with the rest of the backboard.
An excellent job she has made of it I think :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1802_zpsjcaclqzm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1802_zpsjcaclqzm.jpg.html)
Just a few very small bushes need to be added above the wall now to finish that section once the paint is dry.
[Just noticed the tent which shouldn't be in the canal !]
The photo below shows how it fits into the layout generally :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/IMG_1803_zps1tczt9dy.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/IMG_1803_zps1tczt9dy.jpg.html)
The girder bridge seen hanging in the air (actually fixed there temporarily with blu tak)will eventually be 3 sections in length and  is the link to what will be the new Port Perran.  The dmu is about to run into the tunnel and on to the fiddle  yard. From the fiddle yard a line will appear to join to Port Perran via the girder bridge which is on the same level as the line occupied by the dmu (despite the photo appearing to suggest that the girder is lower).
Hopefully, I can start on the baseboard for the new Port Perran next weekend once I have completely dismantled the old layout and taken the baseboard downstairs for recycling.
The eagle eyed may spot an 04 entering the girder bridge in the first photograph.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 07, 2016, 04:16:28 PM
Many thanks for this update, Martin. Very good photos. showing excellent work by Mrs PP. 8-)

The poor campers' tent has, it seems, been blown into the canal, though.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 07, 2016, 04:18:21 PM
Many thanks for this update, Martin. Very good photos. showing excellent work by Mrs PP. 8-)

The poor campers' tent has, it seems, been blown into the canal, though.
I've amended the post. The tent was taken off whilst painting and I forgot to put it back into place !
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 07, 2016, 06:22:59 PM
Many thanks for this update, Martin. Very good photos. showing excellent work by Mrs PP. 8-)

The poor campers' tent has, it seems, been blown into the canal, though.
I've amended the post. The tent was taken off whilst painting and I forgot to put it back into place !
No campers were injured when the tent blew into the canal !
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Post by: cornish yorkie on February 07, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
 :hellosign: Martin, thanks for the  :greatpicturessign:  Mrs PP indeed made  splendid  work on the backscene
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 27, 2016, 07:38:43 PM
A few pictures of activity at Trepol Bay this evening.
First we see the local 04 shunted busily assembling a freight in the harbour. Currently the locomotive is collecting a fruit van(thank you Chris) and a PO wagon from the premises of Messrs Prisk and Jones-fruit and veg merchant.(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/4F3B1375-3A9A-49F2-895D-B568F75499C6_zpsqqjv7mdw.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/4F3B1375-3A9A-49F2-895D-B568F75499C6_zpsqqjv7mdw.jpg.html)

Next we see 34065 Hurricane with the 16.05 departure for Wadebridge and on to Can't Cove:

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/1CFCEF12-6245-4FC9-8879-13C88E15AA33_zpsray8ejmj.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/1CFCEF12-6245-4FC9-8879-13C88E15AA33_zpsray8ejmj.jpg.html)
Next a emu from Truro crossing the bridge towards Trepol Bay. The train is crossing the new bridge linking Trepol Bay with Port Perran. As Port Perran station is currently being rebuilt the train has taken the direct line from Truro(this being a feature of the new Port Perran laout which is currently under construction. This picture will be better one a backboard is in place and a scenic level below the bridge(although those two additions are way into the future):

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/9E79B773-3159-4B9D-A23C-B6DC7F9C4721_zpsydnlmlfu.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/9E79B773-3159-4B9D-A23C-B6DC7F9C4721_zpsydnlmlfu.jpg.html)
Finally , a very mixed train bound for Can't Cove. This is the first of several special trains over the next few days conveying vehicles for repair or reprainting at Cant Cove :

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/9B53B026-824D-4784-BC64-98C06724E776_zps34ymudt3.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/9B53B026-824D-4784-BC64-98C06724E776_zps34ymudt3.jpg.html)







Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2016, 08:15:38 PM
Many thanks for the latest update, Martin, with another set of excellent photos. The BR Fruit Van is an exact duplicate so can work 'through'. It really is ideal for bringing fruit to Messrs Prisk and Jones for onward distribution and looks at home in the siding. Imported fresh fruit and vegetables in Continental Ferry Vans will be brought to the "Castle Estates" distribution and storage centre and transferred to such BR vans as well as the PO vans and Conflat Containers of Messrs Prisk and Jones.

It's always good to see "Hurricane" working through with a train of BR SR Green stock.

The DMU (emu must be a typo) looks very good crossing the bridge which is an excellent new feature. I'm very glad that the campers tent has been safely tethered near the riverside tree. It's an ideal spot for watching the swans and trains go by!

Lastly, but by no means, least it's always a great pleasure to see the CLP (Trepol Bay) preserved SR T9 at work. The train is a mixture of BR and preserved stock plus, as you write, some for overhaul and repainting into PO liveries due to ever expanding business in the area. The BR Crimson Siphon G is one of those allocated to the area for express mail and can be regularly seen running through Cant Cove to / from Paddington via Bodmin Road and also from Paddington to Port Perran, via the WR mainline. The GWR livery Siphon G has been kindly overhauled and repainted by the GWS Port Perran for their colleagues at Penmayne who ahve been very busy helping out the CLPG memebers with their heavy recent workload. They are now looking for one for their colleagues at Port Perran. With the line to Port Perran temporarily closed due to extensive trackworks it had been worked through to Trepol Bay earlier. The BR White Insulfish is for through fresh fish traffic to Withy Junction and Durscombe from Trepol Bay (a similar van can be seen in the lower siding) and Penmayne and replaces an earlier [weathered] one destroyed in a recent accident between Cornwall and Somerset. The NE grey "Tube" wagon will be repainted in "Castle Estates" light blue for the new express goods service to Perthshire. The BR Early Bauxite ex-SR 'Pill Box' brake van is also for through traffic to Withy Junction and Durscombe from both North and West Cornwall.

The CLPG (Cant Cove) have requested the on loan BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T to haul the next special goods to ensure that it is kept in full working order ready for future use in North Cornwall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 27, 2016, 08:29:35 PM
Thanks Chris.
Yes emu is indeed a typo!
However, the T9 is in fact a Black Motor ( a mistake easily made).
A standard 4 is scheduled for the next special train as requested.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Oh dear, at extreme distance I thought a SR liveried black loco. must be a T9! (I'm going to get new glasses.) A 'Black Motor' is, of course, another excellent choice. Many thanks to the CLPG Trepol Bay for giving the 'Standard 4' tank a run soon.
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Post by: Milton Rail on February 27, 2016, 09:02:33 PM
Lovely photos of a fascinating layout - thanks for the update

Cheers,
Andrew
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Post by: cornish yorkie on February 27, 2016, 11:01:45 PM
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign: Martin, thanks for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: N-Gauge-US on February 28, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Great to see some trains on Trepol Bay :) It must be nice to have somewhere to play while you work on PP2, though PP2 is coming along so quickly, I doubt you have much trouble playing on it either ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on February 28, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
Another train load of wagons bound for Cant Cove hauled by Chris' Standard 4 which is on loan at Trepol Bay.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/CBC3E3D7-64C2-49C4-81F8-BD5BC7A8800F_zpsyedmkepb.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/CBC3E3D7-64C2-49C4-81F8-BD5BC7A8800F_zpsyedmkepb.jpg.html)
And a close up of the Standard :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/99FDE6F6-BB1F-4CF8-A5E6-EA4D9B872313_zpsnrrzgnd6.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/99FDE6F6-BB1F-4CF8-A5E6-EA4D9B872313_zpsnrrzgnd6.jpg.html)
(Chris- the Standard is running really well- and looks very good. I have photographed most of the wagons which will make their way to you but not quite all).
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Post by: Chris in Prague on February 28, 2016, 07:01:17 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for finding the time to take these excellent photos. of the departing goods stock plus my Standard 4MT tank which, indeed, looks very good and I'm delighted that it is running so well. It is likely to be on loan to the CLP at Trepol Bay, with the M7, for a while, yet as there are other locos. ahead of it in the queue for DCC fitting which I do not have an example of at Cant Cove. Probably, the M7 will go for DCC-fitting before it.

I'm not sure, yet, which livery the twin-bolster wagons will be resprayed in, but BR Late Bauxite is a distinct possibility if I do not need any other livery versions. The GWR Conflat containers will be resprayed / painted in PO livery as we all have an example of these GWR Furniture Containers. The Peco Parcels Vans may well also be resprayed in PO liveries. The 4w "Express Dairies" tanker will be resprayed in matt black as a diesel fuel storage tank wagon for Cant Cove's diesel shunter. The Continental Ferry Flat wagon behind the pair of Conflats will, I hope, carry Conflat Containers to Port Regeleun, Brittany. It's nice to see your 4575 on shed as it can work the 'through' goods trains. Thanks, again, for all your help.

These are likely to be the last major 'through' trains of goods stock for servicing and repaint a while as I need to concentrate on the locos. and the scenery. I have enough PO stock for myself and just about all the orders, with the major exception of the pairs of single-bolster wagons, have been completed, too.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 03, 2016, 10:57:02 PM
The Wadebridge yardmaster has been informed by the staff at Trepol Bay that some BR goods stock meant for Withy Junction and Durscombe and due to, first, be given a light overhaul at Penmayne depot by the C&W staff there, has arrived at Trepol Bay. The latest to arrive are: 2 X different BR 12-Ton Ventilated Vans (Bauxite) plus a BR 13T open wagon-steel (Bauxite).
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Post by: port perran on March 06, 2016, 07:33:22 PM
A change from the usual steam pictures at Trepol Bay. This evening's running session involved largely ex WR hydraulics for a change :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/5DED5395-FFBA-489E-8866-C2CE2983FEFB_zpstmgseq2p.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/5DED5395-FFBA-489E-8866-C2CE2983FEFB_zpstmgseq2p.jpg.html)
First off a Class 35 Hymek at the head of a parcels train bound for Wadebridge and North Cornwall.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/C3F7DA13-CA94-4CFC-B7E2-3043F076D80E_zps1sv2mjrs.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/C3F7DA13-CA94-4CFC-B7E2-3043F076D80E_zps1sv2mjrs.jpg.html)
A class 22 with a sort goods.
Note the very clean Collett 0-6-0 on shed ready to work a CLPG special later.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/6C911D3C-81C7-4F9B-A538-49295724EFE3_zpsrcprpvfr.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/6C911D3C-81C7-4F9B-A538-49295724EFE3_zpsrcprpvfr.jpg.html)
A Class 14 "Teddy Bear" on a mixed local freight.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/5B5AB8ED-02BB-4AA7-8117-82095FD81264_zpsjzjiapb8.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/5B5AB8ED-02BB-4AA7-8117-82095FD81264_zpsjzjiapb8.jpg.html)
A dmu leaving  with the Wadebridge local passenger train. Note the cattle wagon attached to the rear conveying fresh broccoli to Wadebridge market. The M7 will later work a parcels train to Can't Cove.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/ABF0ACCA-73DD-4DF2-8A12-F94F4B6A4475_zpszlw8uumk.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/ABF0ACCA-73DD-4DF2-8A12-F94F4B6A4475_zpszlw8uumk.jpg.html)
Finally a Class 52 Western heading a passenger train towards Truro. I always though the Westerns looked at their best in green (especially with a few chocolate and cream carriages in tow).
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Post by: wookie on March 06, 2016, 07:40:51 PM
They do Martin, but a maroon pulling a rake of maroons looks nice too.....
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Post by: port perran on March 06, 2016, 07:42:56 PM
They do Martin, but a maroon pulling a rake of maroons looks nice too.....
Agreed. But I haven't got a maroon one I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 06, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. Those trains hauled by diesel-hydraulics do look very fine. I really should get my Class 14 overhauled [DCC-fitted] and back from Swindon Works [Wickness Models], this year; not to mention my M7. (And then there is my 3-car BR Green Class 101 DMU . . . ) However, I do have my pairs of BR Green SWP "Hymeks" and Class 22s, here. I can just about reproduce the nicely varied parcels train behind the "Hymek" and will have a go, tomorrow, I hope. The local goods train ha a nice set of wagons and loads. I can see a BR Brown 7-plank wagon that has had attention to its bufferbeams from the CLPG painters at Cant Cove. 8-)

I have an old GF BR Maroon "Western" [bought DCC-fitted] that does look good with a rake of BR Maroon livery Collett and BR Standard Mark 1 WR coaches. However, I agree that a BR Green "Western" does look very good with WR Chocolate & Cream Mark 1s.

I don't have any of the brown LWB hopper wagons.

There's still your BR and ex-GWR diesel railcars to run . . . 8-)
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Post by: JasonBz on March 06, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
Nice set of pics there :)

1000s look really rather good in any colour though ;)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on March 06, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
Great photos.  :thumbsup:
My layout will reach that stage one day, I hope. :worried:
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Post by: cornish yorkie on March 07, 2016, 12:06:55 PM
 :hellosign: Martin, many thanks for sharing the latest   :greatpicturessign:
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 09, 2016, 09:28:48 AM
Many thanks for the photos, Martin :) I suppose given how good you are about posting steam pictures, we can forgive your momentary lapse into dieselmania ;)

 :greatpicturessign:
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Post by: port perran on March 10, 2016, 08:16:11 PM
Three special trains arrived at Trepol Bay earlier today conveying wagons from Can't Cove. We see the three trains below :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/F06161AB-49A9-4844-A800-27672635BC20_zpscbhbg7ru.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/F06161AB-49A9-4844-A800-27672635BC20_zpscbhbg7ru.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/E026B633-1813-4672-8106-0FFC1CFC3834_zpsvczmuhsm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/E026B633-1813-4672-8106-0FFC1CFC3834_zpsvczmuhsm.jpg.html)
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/FAF78B97-907A-47B1-9F27-558BF926EF96_zpsrsiiaubh.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/FAF78B97-907A-47B1-9F27-558BF926EF96_zpsrsiiaubh.jpg.html)
Many thanks to Chris for his expert painting.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on March 10, 2016, 08:54:15 PM
I had some stock arrive from Cant Cove yesterday too.

Many thanks to Chris for his expert painting. Seconded.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on March 10, 2016, 09:34:00 PM
All in North Cornwall are delighted the trains to West Cornwall and Somerset have safely arrived. any thanks, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. From top to bottom, Right to Left, we see:

1. BR Standard 4MT 2-6-4T on loan to Trepol Bay and kept in full working order, "Castle Estates" LWB Pallet Van for long distance traffic so may be seen passing through Port Perran, on occasion, BR Standard Covered Van in Dark Blue "Gunnings Brewery", Britminster, Dorset Fine Ales livery, "Creech Brewery", Somerset, 7-plank open wagon, "Creech Brewery" Twin-vent van, "Creech Brewery" Single-vent van, BR Crimson pre-BR Fish Van used for edible seaweed traffic, BR Crimson wooden-bodied horsebox, BR Crimson steel-bodied horsebox, and BR Bauxite ex-LMS LWB Guard's Van.

2. Train of vehicles prepared for final painting by Trepol Bay Wagon Works; 3 X Single-vent vans for repainting for use by CLPG as Spares / Stores vans, 2 X Refrigerated / Insulated Vans for painting in dark green livery of "Messrs Prisk & Jones" (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay, LWB Grain wagon, prepainted in grey undercoat ready for painting in "Headland Brewery" livery for barley traffic, BR Brown ex-GWR "Toad" brake van.

3. "Castle Estates" double bolster timber wagon, BR Brown ex-GWR "Fruit D" for parcels and post use (particularly Penmayne-Truro), "Sam's Cider" 7-plank open wagon, Weathered Conflat plus large BR Bauxite Container, "North Cornwall Pasty Co." satin orange Single-vent van, Single-vent van in dark grey undercoat for painting in "Headland Brewery" livery for exchange traffic to Withy Junction and Durscombe, "Colman's Mustard" van; restored goods vehicles (SR for and from CLPG; GWR for and from GWS): SR Cattle Van, SR 8-plank wagon, GW Single-vent van, and GWR Livery "Toad" 'PLYMOUTH'.

There are still a few more items to arrive, including wooden casks. Not shown are 3 Conflat containers: one painted in the satin orange of the North Cornwall Pasty Co., one in the dark blue of "Castle Brewery" and one prepainted in grey undercoat ready for painting in "Headland Brewery" livery. More PO Conflat Containers may well appear in future.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Marty on March 11, 2016, 06:28:11 AM
Trepol Bay is going to need a bigger yard Martin?

Cheers
Marty
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Pete Smith on March 11, 2016, 08:24:52 AM
Chris in Prague, love these tales, is there a Castle Estates and associated companies inventory list?
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Post by: Chris in Prague on March 11, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
Many thanks, Pete. The "Castle Estates" is located at Trevelver Castle at the end of the branch from Cant Cove, near Wadebridge Cornwall, and is involved in producing, processing and marketing a wide range of agricultural produce. Associated with it, but still an independent company, is the "Castle Brewery" (a founder member of the Alliance of West Country Breweries) which began as the castle's domestic brewery in medieval times. Another associated, but independent, company is the "North Cornwall Pasty Co." of Penmayne (the terminus of the line from Wadebridge via Cant Cove).

There are close trading and marketing relationships with other companies in Cornwall. these include: the "Headland Brewery", Port Perran (another founder member of the Alliance of West Country Breweries); James & Son Ltd, Granite Merchants, Port Perran; Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay. There are others, such as a timber merchant's and sawmill company at Port Perran, and a wagon repairers at Trepol Bay. I'm sure that Martin will be able to supply the details.

In Somerset, there is the "Creech Brewery" and "Sam's Cider" plus, in Dorset, "Gunnings Brewery", Britminster, which are also members of the Alliance of West Country Breweries which aims to reduce costs (buying in barley, etc.), improve marketing (inc. cross-distribution of products) and, generally, enhance products and competitiveness whilst maintaining independence in the face of Whitbread's expansion into the SW!

There is, of course, far more to tell such as the owners and principal directors of the
advertising firm of Trevelver and Guillou (Wadebridge and London), alias our good friends, "Chelsea Girls", Sylvia and Eli who help these companies with advertising, branding, and marketing advice.
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Post by: Pete Smith on March 11, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
love it :thankyousign: i did mean a stock list though, there must be thousands of wagons etc out there, you seem to send hundreds out eachweek ;D
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 11, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
love it :thankyousign: I did mean a stock list though, there must be thousands of wagons etc out there, you seem to send hundreds out each week ;D

Thanks, Pete. There are SWB 5- and 7-plank wagons and 4 types of SWB vans: BR Standard Ventilated, ex-SR uneven planked Twin-vent van, Single-vent van (ex-LNER design?), plus pre-BR insulated / refrigerated van. There are also Conflat wagons with a wide variety of BR and PO livery containers and also a couple of pre-BR Fish Vans for local edible seaweed traffic. In LWB versions, there are all the vans and wagons [that Peco have ever mde], including grain hoppers. Most of the LWB vans and wagons belong to the "Castle Estates" but the "Castle Brewery" also has some and other associated partner companies are being encouraged to use them and even invest in their own for high-speed long-distance goods services.

The "Castle Estates" top salesman, Brandon Williams, (also working, outside Cornwall, on commission, for the Alliance of West Country Breweries, "Sam's Cider", and North and West Cornwall rail-served businesses as a business 'hunter') is always happy to visit prospective new customers and discuss their specific requirements! 8-)
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Post by: port perran on March 11, 2016, 08:30:14 PM
Just to clarify the arrangement with wagons. Several of us have similar wagons which (eventually) will enable us to have  trains running on different layouts but with the same locos and stock thus creating the illusion of through trains.  There are several companies on various layouts which have their own Private Owner stock in various unique liveries.
My own layouts (Port Perran and Trepol Bay) have the Headland Brewery, James & Son (Granite Merchants), Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Veg Wholesalers). Various wagons from these companies also run on Chris' Cant Cove layout whilst others will (eventually) make their way further afield.
I also have the CLPG (Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group) workshops at Port Perran which also has it's own stores wagons in a unique Prussian Blue livery.
Various other PO wagons are also resident on my layouts from other people.
Chris (in Prague) tends to co-ordinate things and is an expert in painting wagons.
Hope this makes some sense at least.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 11, 2016, 08:43:23 PM
Trepol Bay is going to need a bigger yard Martin?
Cheers
Marty
Indeed.    It is getting crowded :worried:
I have this evening installed an extra storage siding in my fiddle yard.
Of course, some stock will be "resident" on my new Port Perran layout once it is finished.
Even then though, some of my stock will be stored in boxes and rotated onto the layouts from time to time.
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Post by: Chris in Prague on March 12, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Thank you for the additional info., Martin. I'm glad that you were able to install an additional siding in your fiddle yard.

Pete, I tend to produce Private Owner (PO) stock in batches and am not planning to produce any more until the Summer. However, I will be sending more pre-painted wagons and vans to Martin for painting in his PO liveries for others, in due course, as well as producing some more in my PO and others' PO liveries. But, again, that will not happen be in a hurry as we're both very busy (I with work and Martin with, of course, Port Perran). If interested, PM me.

The CLPG Single-vent vans, (which are an excellent idea of Martin's), will be seen at the various Cornish Locomotive Preservation Group locations, mine being Cant Cove (the ex-BR SR steam shed) which will receive its one later this summer. They are used for both storing and carrying spare parts.

The CLPG operates at Cant Cove and Trepol Bay but has a new major workshop at Port Perran, courtesy of one of the CLPG's sponsors, the "Headland Brewery". The CLPG workshop at the end of the Cant Cove shed is smaller and less well-equipped so the CLPG vans will be regularly travelling between the two sites as well as to and from Eastleigh and other SR works. The CLPG also maintains demonstration SR goods trains at both Cant Cove (at the "Castle Estates" site) and near Trepol Bay.

Operating preserved GWR locomotive and rolling stock is the GWS at Bodmin [in real life, the GWS did, for a while, have a base in the ex-GWR steam shed at Bodmin General]. I understand that the GWS also operates at Port Perran, but I will leave Martin to clarify the details. However, preserved GWR steam and rolling stock is definitely seen at both Cant Cove and Port Perran and, sometimes, on specials and crew-training and 'running-in' turns at Trepol Bay, too. The GWS maintains a demonstration GWR goods train at Bodmin General sidings as well as, I believe, at or near Port Perran.

The CLPG at Cant Cove and Penmayne also operates BR Standard Steam Locomotives crewed by its BR SR and WR locomotive crew members. (At present they are BR SR owned.) One BR 4MT 2-6-4T is on loan to the CLPG at Trepol Bay (as is a BR livery M7, identical to Trepol Bay's) who ensure that they are run regularly. The other BR 4MT 2-6-4T is based at Penmayne steam shed and is often seen at Cant Cove. Then there are the Bulleid Light Pacifics of which 34065 "Hurricane" has been fully restored in BR Early Crest Green livery and can frequently be seen at both Cant Cove and Trepol Bay, as well as Port Perran.
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Post by: port perran on March 13, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
Amid some secrecy, a new type of China Clay hood is being trialled in Cornwall.
Here we see an 08 with three raised hood wagons heading from the Clay Dries near Wadebridge towards Fowey harbour.
The train is seen passing through Trepol Bay :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/52AEAE22-F11B-4005-A6F5-5A64C2900F5A_zpsguyrnxcf.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/52AEAE22-F11B-4005-A6F5-5A64C2900F5A_zpsguyrnxcf.jpg.html)
It will be interesting to see how well this new type of hood for the China clay performs in daily traffic?
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 13, 2016, 07:47:57 PM
Thanks, Martin, for the update. Another excellent photo. Are these the Kernow MRC ones or the new Peco ones? You've reminded me that I really should get my BR Green Class 08 DCC-fitted so that it can trundle through Cant Cove with a short rake of empty china clay wagons going to / from Penmayne and Wadebridge. (There is a C&W repair facility at Penmayne plus a diesel fuelling point which is closer than St. Blazey which the Wadebridge diesel shunters and china clay wagons use.)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 13, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
They are the new Peco ones. I bought three on a visit to Mevagissey a few weeks back (Mevagissey models).
Although the hoods need weathering down , I think they are better than the Kernow ones.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 13, 2016, 08:04:08 PM
 :hellosign: nice photo Martin, thanks for the updates
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 13, 2016, 08:08:22 PM
Thanks, Martin. I look forward to seeing them weathered in due course. I think the blue nylon (?) hoods came in quite late in the china clay wagons' life, around 1973-74, I think. Before that, I think the wagons had standard BR sheets (tarpaulins to non-railway people), black/very dark grey (tar/bitumen colour) when new, weathering into a mixture of greys, laid flat. A huge variety of wagons were used for transporting china clay, so I think both the Kernow GF and Peco ones are accurate? Later in their long life the wooden wagons were vacuum-braked. They were 10ft wheelbase and many were roller bearing fitted. The end tip clay wagons (fitted with end doors) were designed for local use to / from Fowey.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 17, 2016, 08:39:08 PM
Some low angle shots of activity at Trepol Bay earlier this evening :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/D2584F95-C572-4A34-B2EC-F718D4BE8A9F_zpsaewo42rs.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/D2584F95-C572-4A34-B2EC-F718D4BE8A9F_zpsaewo42rs.jpg.html)
First we see a BB 4-6-0 heading for Wadebridge with a 4 coach train. The norm is 3 coaches but a Mk 1 FK first has been added behind the loco. This carriage is new to the area and is on its first working.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/04779B38-D2F7-4966-BDDD-1F5F238BD8FB_zpszlqq5oqc.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/04779B38-D2F7-4966-BDDD-1F5F238BD8FB_zpszlqq5oqc.jpg.html)
A45xx and pannier double head a train of mixed brewery wagons towards Truro.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/E1D24F56-9B23-459D-B634-25DBA8EBE47D_zps40wnchmm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/E1D24F56-9B23-459D-B634-25DBA8EBE47D_zps40wnchmm.jpg.html)
A Class 25 heading towards Truro with a local. Note the Crimson Siphon at the rear conveying parcels.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/36BD8F06-9EE0-481C-B6EF-34179B9BA180_zpsvos5ehbc.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/36BD8F06-9EE0-481C-B6EF-34179B9BA180_zpsvos5ehbc.jpg.html)
A pannier heading a mixed goods towards Wadebridge. Note the wagons in the foreground in the private siding serving the premises of Messrs Prisk and Jones(fruit and veg merchants).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 17, 2016, 08:53:02 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for another excellent set of photos. with some different angles I hope to post some photos. of 'through' trains, soon, including the BR Crimson Siphon G in a parcels' train.

Trepol Bay serves a prosperous area and is a favourite holiday destination for the well-heeled so the SR has recently transferred a couple of BR standard 1st-class corridor (FK) coaches for Waterloo services to Trepol Bay as well as Penmayne.

Nice to see the BR Grey Shoc-Van for delivering new beer bottles to the "Headland Brewery" distribution depot with the "Creech Brewery" van outside the depot. Also the brewery and cider train with a "Wadebridge" SWB brake van and the BR fruit and vegetable vans in the private siding.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 17, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
Very nice pics Martin, keep them coming  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mito on March 17, 2016, 09:27:56 PM
Super photos.
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Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 18, 2016, 03:04:55 PM
Absolutely stunning :) I think my favorite detail in these photos is probably the care that has been taken in weathering the sea wall. The tide marks and moss are excellently applied :) Of course the detail throughout is spectacular, but I thought this worth special mention :) A job very well done!  :thankyousign:  :greatpicturessign:
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Post by: MinZaPint on March 18, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Absolutely stunning :) I think my favorite detail in these photos is probably the care that has been taken in weathering the sea wall. The tide marks and moss are excellently applied :) Of course the detail throughout is spectacular, but I thought this worth special mention :) A job very well done!  :thankyousign:  :greatpicturessign:

Agreed, if I ever get round to modelling a harbour your scene is my target  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2016, 03:16:55 PM
I fully agree, guys. In the distant (and hoped-for) future when I build Penmayne which is planned to be a compressed, simplified version of Padstow, the harbour area will also take its inspiration from Martin's, especially the harbour wall.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2016, 05:54:59 PM
In the 4th picture, I think I can see your Peco Collett 0-6-0 peeking out of Trepol Bay's loco. shed. Currently, on eBay, there is a Peco N Gauge NL-25 Collett goods GWR Green, mint boxed, Farish coupling and bidding is already at £96 with over 2 days still to go! (I'm not bidding.)

It's now at £139, gulp!

Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 18, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
In the 4th picture, I think I can see your Peco Collett 0-6-0 peeking out of Trepol Bay's loco. shed. Currently, on eBay, there is a Peco N Gauge NL-25 Collett goods GWR Green, mint boxed, Farish coupling and bidding is already at £96 with over 2 days still to go! (I'm not bidding.)
That is indeed the Collett 0-6-0 on shed. I vary the loco on shed on a regular basis although my green prairie tank is a regular (just because I think it looks at home).
I bought mine for 60-00 about a year ago at a show. It's a great loco and a lovely runner.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 18, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Very many Thanks for the kind comments chaps.
I learned an awful not from my original Port Perran layout which had many mistakes and errors. That is one reason why I broke it up. Hopefully the new Port Perran will be better (even if the double row of cottages/shops going uphill is driving me mad during construction!).
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on March 18, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
I have to do a whole terrace staggering downhill mate  :o
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2016, 09:27:07 PM
I'm sure that both your terraces will look very good as you've both got considerable experience of constructing model buildings now. Take your time and stop and ponder in the breaks.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 18, 2016, 11:06:19 PM
Some low angle shots of activity at Trepol Bay earlier this evening :
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/D2584F95-C572-4A34-B2EC-F718D4BE8A9F_zpsaewo42rs.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/D2584F95-C572-4A34-B2EC-F718D4BE8A9F_zpsaewo42rs.jpg.html[/url])
First we see a BB 4-6-0 heading for Wadebridge with a 4 coach train. The norm is 3 coaches but a Mk 1 FK first has been added behind the loco. This carriage is new to the area and is on its first working.
([url]http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/04779B38-D2F7-4966-BDDD-1F5F238BD8FB_zpszlqq5oqc.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/04779B38-D2F7-4966-BDDD-1F5F238BD8FB_zpszlqq5oqc.jpg.html[/url])
A45xx and pannier double head a train of mixed brewery wagons towards Truro.
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A Class 25 heading towards Truro with a local. Note the Crimson Siphon at the rear conveying parcels.
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A pannier heading a mixed goods towards Wadebridge. Note the wagons in the foreground in the private siding serving the premises of Messrs Prisk and Jones(fruit and veg merchants).



 :hellosign:    :greatpicturessign: truly inspirational Martin, thanks for sharing
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 19, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
Very many Thanks for the kind comments chaps.
I learned an awful not from my original Port Perran layout which had many mistakes and errors. That is one reason why I broke it up. Hopefully the new Port Perran will be better (even if the double row of cottages/shops going uphill is driving me mad during construction!).

Very many Thanks for the kind comments chaps.
I learned an awful not from my original Port Perran layout which had many mistakes and errors. That is one reason why I broke it up. Hopefully the new Port Perran will be better (even if the double row of cottages/shops going uphill is driving me mad during construction!).

Sorry they're making you batty but the progress you have posted on them looks very exciting and I have learned a lot looking at them. I know that, as Chris said, they will turn out great :) If you are getting really frustrated, doesnt the Cornish Arms still need rebuilding? ;) Sometimes switching projects can give a little perspective in addition to a nice break :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
A surprise visitor to North/West Cornwall this week was a straight sided tank 45xx prairie fresh from heavy general overhaul at Swindon. The locomotive, based at Aberbeeg, was mistakenly despatched to Truro by Swindon works.
On arrival in Cornwall, she was, of course, put to work as here passing Trepol Bay station with a pair of containers :
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/802A7B21-BE9B-4994-B04F-4FC8D5AD0D87_zpsats7dgl1.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/2016-03/802A7B21-BE9B-4994-B04F-4FC8D5AD0D87_zpsats7dgl1.jpg.html)
The mistake was soon realised by BR(W) and the prairie will be making its way back to South Wales early next week.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2016, 06:02:19 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for this. I was hoping for a picture of this temporary visitor, 4528, but knew you're very busy. Nice to see the Conflat PO Containers, too. (There is a red LEP one still to come.) It certainly looks at home in Northwest Cornwall. It's a pity that it will have to immediately leave for Wales but unavoidable in the circumstances.

There is a very similar 45XX, in the same livery, 4554, in the line to be given a Heavy General Overhaul at Swindon Works before being despatched to Bodmin, but this is not due to happen until later this year as a 4575 in the same livery, 5544, has been given priority and is due to arrive early next month in time for the Easter special timetable. It may well work "through" to Port Perran and Truro.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on April 04, 2016, 08:35:06 PM
An ex GW Siphon G has arrived in North Cornwall from The Midlands.
It is seen here attached to the local ex GW railcar at Trepol Bay en route to Port Perran
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/F7D9096D-23CE-4D46-B970-9B0A21470515_zpsyimtz5xq.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/F7D9096D-23CE-4D46-B970-9B0A21470515_zpsyimtz5xq.jpg.html)
A rather Western feel at an ex LSWR station. The Manor is waiting to depart for Wadebridge later.
Meanwhile we see a Class 22 on a short timber train:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/628452E7-FC3F-4CFB-B4D8-6DDD8983DCA4_zps96tazh5k.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/628452E7-FC3F-4CFB-B4D8-6DDD8983DCA4_zps96tazh5k.jpg.html)
And in the gathering gloom  a pannier on a train of various empty horse boxes probably being run in connection with an up coming race meet at Newton Abbot.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/076C85B6-A4EB-4901-A417-F1ACC553EB8C_zpskc1adgzm.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/076C85B6-A4EB-4901-A417-F1ACC553EB8C_zpskc1adgzm.jpg.html)
And BB 34065 Hurricane departing with a train for Wadebridge:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/355BFD6B-810B-471A-833D-7EFE827EFA52_zpsebrgxbls.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/355BFD6B-810B-471A-833D-7EFE827EFA52_zpsebrgxbls.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Newportnobby on April 04, 2016, 08:46:59 PM
Thanks for those great pics, Martin, especially the dusk/evening ones :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Mito on April 04, 2016, 08:49:38 PM
Great photos. :thumbsup: And has a lot of atmosphere.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: wookie on April 05, 2016, 12:32:57 PM
Lovely pics as always Martin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 05, 2016, 07:18:23 PM
 :hellosign:  thanks for sharing  :greatpicturessign: as always, evening very effective
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 05, 2016, 08:35:53 PM
Many thanks for those excellent photos., Martin. Very good to see that your GWR LIbery Siphon G has arrived safely.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 05, 2016, 09:16:57 PM
another great update, Martin! I'm always amazed at the amount of detail you have in your photos. I think my favorite in this batch is the last one, simply because of all of the activity happening at the loading dock! That and the gentleman tying his boat off :)

I always walk away from pictures of your layout, filled with good ideas about where and how to add little bits of detail :)

Thanks again for the update :)

Philip
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: lil chris on April 05, 2016, 10:54:44 PM
Nice pics there martin, it looks well lit up at night time, not even thought about doing that on mine.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2016, 09:36:36 AM
Re: Trepol Bay having a rather "Western" feel in some of the above, excellent photos., just like BR SR has inherited running rights over the WR from Newquay to Truro and from Truro to Falmouth and Penzance, as well as the Port Perran loop off the GWR's Newquay to Chacewater line, (from the Act authorising North Cornwall Extension Railway, built 1885-1888), so did the GWR then WR over the ex-LSWR, ex-SR, now BR SR line from Newquay to Wadebridge. And, just like over the two routes between Exeter and Plymouth, both SR and GWR then SR and WR train crews work scheduled services over the Truro-Newquay-Wadebridge line to maintain route knowledge in case their trains' normal route is unavailable.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: port perran on April 09, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
A few photos to redress the LSWR balance at Trepol Bay.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/5DA7EB7E-F078-4A0C-B4E1-1621019B5D80_zpszwbd5aiy.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/5DA7EB7E-F078-4A0C-B4E1-1621019B5D80_zpszwbd5aiy.jpg.html)
The restored T9 and Black Motor enter the station with the CLPG demonstration goods train of ex SR stock. BB 34065 Hurricane waits with a Wadebridge train and the Ivatt tank is at the head of a later parcels working.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/B30E0F08-3363-461E-A7C1-1F91F9EFC8F8_zpsryrjftr5.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/B30E0F08-3363-461E-A7C1-1F91F9EFC8F8_zpsryrjftr5.jpg.html)
The Ivatt tank has moved out onto the main line whilst an M7 waits with a North Cornwall local working. An N mogul is in the background.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/9B25FF0C-DF38-4A5B-8FD1-9ED7AA129CC9_zpsuo3trwrp.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/9B25FF0C-DF38-4A5B-8FD1-9ED7AA129CC9_zpsuo3trwrp.jpg.html)
The local 04 diesel works the harbour lines whilst the N is in the station with a passenger train which will work through to Exeter via the North Cornwall line.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/martinscane/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/9631A28E-6798-4DE6-87DA-7A0801881542_zpsmbaab0zy.jpg) (http://s653.photobucket.com/user/martinscane/media/apr16/2016-04/2016-04/9631A28E-6798-4DE6-87DA-7A0801881542_zpsmbaab0zy.jpg.html)
Another view of the harbour and station.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 09, 2016, 08:21:05 PM
Another lovely series of photos! Truly a delightful mix of Southern stock today :)

Thanks for posting another picture of the Harbour scene! I notice a new detail hiding around every corner each time you do! It is definitely one of my favorite spots on any of the model railways on here :)
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2016, 08:27:56 PM
Many thanks, Martin, for another set of excellent photos. Nice to see a selection of SR locomotives plus some of the recent arrival goods stock.
Title: Re: Trepol Bay ??
Post by: cornish yorkie on April 09, 2016, 11:56:29 PM
&nb