We have seen many debates, polls and surveys on the NGF prior to now on what new RtR models we would like to see (particularly) in British N Gauge, however I feel the major players could do many more liveries in a year than just the normal 2-3 repaints they tend to do on existing models they have previously released per each new catalog.
I understand about concerns they may have of flooding markets with too much and some liveries not being as popular, however I would like to see what liveries of existing N Gauge RtR models that modellers would like to see, which previously have not been released or done for a long while...
The vain hope would be for manufacturers to gauge an idea of potential popular liveries that people would therefore buy in future.
My personal choices would be:
-Class 37 in DRS 'compass' Livery as seen on real life 37423 for example (would go nicely with new Farish 'Nuke Flask' wagons)
-Class 47 in DRS 'compass' Livery as seen on real life 47802 for example.
-Class 37 in BR Intercity 'Swallow' livery.
-Class 47 in BR Civil Engineers 'Dutch' livery as seen on 47975 for example.
-Class 08 in DRS livery. From memory only x2 Shunters worked for DRS at Kingmoor carrying this livery.
-Class A3 Dapol Steamer 'Blink Bonny' in LNER Apple Green livery.
These are my choices, and I hope someday these are covered by Dapol/Farish.
I would be interested to see what other liveries (UK and foreign) people would want to see on existing released RtR manufacturers?
Purely selfish but a Class 20 in coal sector.....or a pair (if there was more than one in reality?!)
BR Mark 1 suburbans in heavily weathered BR plain blue
Bubble in Arriva
Mark 3s and 67 in Chiltern Mainline
(I've done the first two the hard way from kits but would still be nice to see them RTR).
I suspect the 67 one will be tricky. The different doors on the coaches etc can be done easily by Farish rather than Dapol and the 67 by Dapol not Farish...
Anything that covers railtours and enginners trains so for example,
Class 33,37,47 in WCRC or 47 in Pullman livery
Dapols 121 in Network rail colours
Desiro in South West Trains colours please.
Also re-release the 159 in South West Trains colours and add directional lighting
In general I'd like to see manufacturers being a bit quicker off the mark in releasing contemporary liveries. Farish in particular have tended to release models in 00 first (a couple of years after the livery appeared on the prototype) then the N model a couple of years after that. By this time the livery is quite often obsolete, and I suspect recent but not current liveries don't sell too well because they fall into the gap between people who try to keep the layout current and those who are modelling a definite era in the past.
I too would like to see Farish Mk1 "suburbans" or non-corridor coaches in BR blue livery. Also, perhaps a re-run of models such as the Dapol Cl121 in BR blue, maybe with a different no.
Quote from: michael on October 05, 2012, 07:15:26 AM
Anything that covers railtours and enginners trains so for example,
Class 33,37,47 in WCRC or 47 in Pullman livery
Dapols 121 in Network rail colours
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/38737/ND209Z_Dapol_Class_122_Single_Car_DMU_number_960015 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/38737/ND209Z_Dapol_Class_122_Single_Car_DMU_number_960015)
I see Dapol produce (Or use to) unpainted OO Scale Loco's and wagons at a reduced price.
Shame it's not offered to us N gaugers who would like to have a go with repaints.
Class 73 in contemporary GBRF, having said that GBRF seem to be using 73's in two tone, Large Logo, GBRF and evey other Livery except Green at this moment... Anything goes as they say... :laugh3:
Quote from: davidjhope on October 05, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
I see Dapol produce (Or use to) unpainted OO Scale Loco's and wagons at a reduced price.
Shame it's not offered to us N gaugers who would like to have a go with repaints.
Wouldn't be worth it for most stuff I would think. The unpopular livery discounts end up cheaper than specially done unpainted ones would (plus people buying the unpopular ones for respraying probably keeps the model shops a touch happier too)
Similar thing with chassis - it was usually the case that things like a 50 in joke LMS livery was cheaper than the chassis on its own!
Dapol actually did an experimental batch of 73s with just separate number decals - despite being a tiny batch they didn't sell. I suspect their main value now is to collectors who won't apply the decals anyway but just want it to put in a cupboard because it's rare.
One of my 'wants' is due out soon - Class 37 in Railfreight Distribution :thumbsup:
The only others I'd want are new Class 47s in NSE, and Intercity livery WITHOUT those hideous full yellow cabs :thumbsdown:
Paul
Dapol A3 would be nice to see in BR blue as well as Farish A1.
Regards,
Alan
Quote from: busman on October 05, 2012, 07:55:29 AM
Also, perhaps a re-run of models such as the Dapol Cl121 in BR blue, maybe with a different no.
Whoaaa, hang on before we start asking for re-runs of liveries, can we have the liveries first promised, like the 121 in Blue/Grey for a start.
Rgeards
Neal.
There are many things i'd like to be re-liveried. Here are a few of my examples, and also why i doubt they'd be seen soon:
Class 37/20 in DRS Compass Livery - Would need modifications to the tooling
MK1 RMB in Crimson/Cream - Only accurate for preservation so limited use (I want several so if you are reading this Mr Hubbard...)
GWR Hall in Hogwarts Livery - Hornby don't do N Gauge
Class 101 in Green (no indicator box - or whatever its called) - As far as i have worked out only accurate for preservation so limited use.
There are also some i'd like to see but i feel they can't be far off e.g. Northern Class 150
Ollie
Quote from: Sprintex on October 05, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
One of my 'wants' is due out soon - Class 37 in Railfreight Distribution :thumbsup:
The only others I'd want are new Class 47s in NSE, and Intercity livery WITHOUT those hideous full yellow cabs :thumbsdown:
Paul
Last week I was in Model Mart in Bolton, where they had a second hand RfD 37 (split chassis, i think) for £40.
I picked one up in Railfreight large logo also for £40, and it's a nice, sweet runner too!!!
Quote from: bees on October 05, 2012, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on October 05, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
One of my 'wants' is due out soon - Class 37 in Railfreight Distribution :thumbsup:
The only others I'd want are new Class 47s in NSE, and Intercity livery WITHOUT those hideous full yellow cabs :thumbsdown:
Paul
Last week I was in Model Mart in Bolton, where they had a second hand RfD 37 (split chassis, i think) for £40.
I picked one up in Railfreight large logo also for £40, and it's a nice, sweet runner too!!!
Like Paul I'm looking forward to a new Rfd 37. I nearly picked up a RfD 37 from Osborne's the other week, I got quite excited, that is until I found out it was the old RfD 37, not DCC ready. It would be nice to thing that the new 37's might have the new Farish motor. According to the lad at Osborne's, the new Farish motors (already in some kettles) are very quiet and have very good creep abilities.
my few are that haven't been said are
fastline 56
fastline spine wagons
cross country 170 3 car
dcr 56 and 31
colas 47 and 56
daz
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?
Quoteauthor=Sprintex link=topic=8368.msg90965#msg90965 date=1349453095
The only others I'd want are new Class 47s in NSE,
I had a bash at a NSE class 47. It's not that difficult as transfers for the stripes are available. Tank seems pretty good at NSE livery judging by the amount of stock he re-liveries very successfully in to NSE. I'm surprised more people don't have a go themselves.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img525/651/1001364u.jpg)
H.
Quote from: H on October 06, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?
Hi Gang;
Done the Fastline 56, DRS 20,33,37,47,87s various, Artemis 56, Colas 47 x2....and a few others..
I would like tp see a non-named LL Blue 47 on the non-flush (535) body from Farish though....it would open up the renumber possibilities no end.
Later;
Stu in EGPG
I wouldn't mind seeing Colas 47's/56's either.
Has anyone seen the new proposed 'Stevenson Rail' 56's yet? They are proposed to have various liveries within the same fleet. Very interesting but I'm not sure I like these yet?
I'll see if I can find a picture.........
I am surprised that the Farish Class 150 hasn't appeared in any more contemporary liveries, such as Northern Rail or FGW dark blue.
Id like to see a new style class 37 in regional railways livery and maybe the 158 done in the first liveries they carried, (I think) regional railways 'express' and metro red and cream liveries.
not much :scowl:
Hi all
would like to see the new class 37/4 in EWS and EWS/Royal Scotsman maroon
also DRS class 37 and 20 and class 37 non split box in dutch livery
regards
Dave
I would like to see more BR sector liveries....
Coal sector class 60 & 31
Dutch class 47
Split nose 37's in.....
Large logo grey and redstripe.
Mainline blue
Railfreight distribution.
Construction livery 31's and 47's
Hi Gang;
Might take a while to see new liveries on the Class 31, given that the rerool is likely (initially) to be a non refurbished shell.
I have to say that the Class 47 is crying out for some application of liveries ...an excellent model....have to agree with Porkie ref a 'Dutch' 47. An original Railfreight grey or red stripe 47 has never been released either (notwithstanding the samples Farish did a long time ago before going with RfD livery) A nice Construction 47 would go down well (47006 with ploughs??)
Now that the non-refurb 37s are on the streets, a centre headcode LL Blue (for ED & IS locos) would be nice, and Tinsley had a load of split box LL Blue livery versions too.
I cannot see Farish doing anything else with 33/40/50/56 in the future.
More 150 liveries would go down well (FGW etc) but the 158 now needs a retool.
Later;
STU from EGDL
Quote from: H on October 06, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?Quote
Thinking of having a go at the GBRF Blue Orange Class 73. Have seen a picture of a pair of them at Gravesend. The decals are available from Fox Transfers so it should be quite a straight forwards job. It is not going to happen though until the loco is converted to DCC (its the old model). Oh and it is not going to happen until my (currently underway) class 465 Networker build is complete...
Quote from: Greybeema on October 08, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: H on October 06, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?Quote
Thinking of having a go at the GBRF Blue Orange Class 73. Have seen a picture of a pair of them at Gravesend. The decals are available from Fox Transfers so it should be quite a straight forwards job. It is not going to happen though until the loco is converted to DCC (its the old model). Oh and it is not going to happen until my (currently underway) class 465 Networker build is complete...
Hi Greybeema;
To save you painting one (but it is straightforward), there are a few Dapol versions creep up from time to time on E-Bay...
Later;
STU from EGDL
Quote from: StufromEGDL on October 08, 2012, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Greybeema on October 08, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: H on October 06, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?Quote
Thinking of having a go at the GBRF Blue Orange Class 73. Have seen a picture of a pair of them at Gravesend. The decals are available from Fox Transfers so it should be quite a straight forwards job. It is not going to happen though until the loco is converted to DCC (its the old model). Oh and it is not going to happen until my (currently underway) class 465 Networker build is complete...
Hi Greybeema;
To save you painting one (but it is straightforward), there are a few Dapol versions creep up from time to time on E-Bay...
Later;
STU from EGDL
Hi STU,
Thanks I might get one for the other of the pair (they seem to go in pairs)..To be honest the one I have is in Engineers Dutch so needs a repaint. I could just overpaint the Yellow with grey - that would make it current (as would large logo blue).. Oh so much choice...
Quote from: bees on October 05, 2012, 06:21:15 PMLast week I was in Model Mart in Bolton, where they had a second hand RfD 37 (split chassis, i think) for £40.
That's the one I've already got, it's OK but the mechanism is already showing signs of unreliability (as is the relatively new Farish HST with similar split-chassis design), and I'd like the new one with fitted lights rather than mess about fitting them myself ;)
Quote from: H on October 06, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Has anyone had a go at repainting in to any of these listed 'wanted' liveries themselves?
Quote from: Sprintex on October 05, 2012, 05:04:55 PMThe only others I'd want are new Class 47s in NSE,
I had a bash at a NSE class 47. It's not that difficult as transfers for the stripes are available. Tank seems pretty good at NSE livery judging by the amount of stock he re-liveries very successfully in to NSE. I'm surprised more people don't have a go themselves.
H.
Because it would be just that -
having a go.
I have only just tackled my first relivery of simple wagons, trying to do NSE even with transfers would be an enormous task :goggleeyes: Plus, as good as that repaint picture is I can still be picky and say that the orange cant rail and some of the lower stripes aren't as straight as I would want them, and I'd be at least two or three times as picky with my own work! :hmmm:
This is not a criticism of your work, that's a damn good relivery and I admire people like yourself and Tank that do it so well, but I know mine wouldn't be up to that standard (yet?) and it just wouldn't be good enough ;)
Paul
More BR blue ! What about the recently announced Graham Farish LMS 50ft full brake in blue - perhaps they have it in mind for future years?
Also, not being a Western man, but are any of the Dapol "Siphons" suitable for BR blue ?
As you can probably tell, I like parcel trains!
Quote from: busman on November 03, 2012, 11:02:40 AM
More BR blue ! What about the recently announced Graham Farish LMS 50ft full brake in blue - perhaps they have it in mind for future years?
Also, not being a Western man, but are any of the Dapol "Siphons" suitable for BR blue ?
As you can probably tell, I like parcel trains!
Definitely as I repainted the Siphon G at Didcot from its BR Blue livery to good old GW Chocolate.
I am also a parcels addict. :thumbsup: