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Title: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Caz on August 14, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
I would like to replace the plastic wheels on all my Peco wagons with metals wheels to improve track cleanliness, any suggestions where I can buy some that would fit.  It's mainly for steam era 1948-1965 stock.  Tried the Farish ones but they are a little too large and are too tight a fit.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: AndyGif on August 14, 2012, 03:01:52 PM
from a previous thread on changing peco wheels.
Quote from: AndyGif on April 24, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
Mainly been using the 3 hole and solid Farish  packs of spare wheelsets. BR Lines or Peters Spares.
Would use spoked wheels to replace peco spoked ones but none have been available to just recently.
Pop out the peco wheels a quick turn or two of .7mm ish drill in the axle divots . Pop in the replacement axles and see if they are free running. If not give the axle boxes a squeeze onto the axle points to bed them in.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 14, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on August 14, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
I would like to replace the plastic wheels on all my Peco wagons with metals wheels to improve track cleanliness, any suggestions where I can buy some that would fit.  It's mainly for steam era 1948-1965 stock.  Tried the Farish ones but they are a little too large and are too tight a fit.

All the other axles (except the 2fs conversion wheels) are basically the same length. The trick is to use a small drill to gently open out the hole - not much pressure is needed as you talking about fractions of a mm on each axle hole usually.

It does I find make them run better and keeps track cleaner. Also for the  HAA and CDA hoppers you can replace them with the correct sized wheels.

Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: PLD on August 14, 2012, 05:54:48 PM
I use the wheels available from Parkside Dundas. Available in 3 different diameters and plain disk, 3-hole disk or 2 styles of spoked wheels...

Only thing to be wary of is to check the Back-to-Back before fitting...

Paul
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: upnick on August 14, 2012, 08:35:17 PM
Hi   

I use  Graham Farish 379-411  metal  spoke wheels as Etched Pixels  said above   use a   fine drill   to  open  up  the  axle  bearings   but be very   careful   as the  sides  of the  wagon  chassis  are thin,  then  replace the wheels   they should run  freely   ;)  if they  stick  a little  then   an   application  of  grease em   to  the axle  ends will   help  with them  being metal  the wagons run   better adding weight to them.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: zivadiva on August 14, 2012, 10:17:30 PM
the farish ones are ok. Just need two rubs with a file on the ends and they fit and turn superb.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: kiwi1941 on August 15, 2012, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: upnick on August 14, 2012, 08:35:17 PMan application of grease em to the axle ends will help

Or just turn a well sharpened 4B or 6B pencil in the axle hole to add some graphite [= "grease em"]. HTH, Brian
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Caz on August 15, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
Thanks all, as usual lots of ideas and help offered, that's what I love about this forum, no matter how obscure the question, you can always get lots of answers.  Will order some Farish wheel sets and set to work as soon as I've finished pouring road mix all over my lovely shiney new Peco track in the MPD and goods yard.   :thumbsup:   :beers:
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: BurtonWetmore on August 15, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
I find these work well without any modification. I have replaced all my peco wagon wheels with these because those plastic ones are a bit last century :p

http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=6.2mm (http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=6.2mm)

Two types are currently out of stock but should be back in within a few days.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Kipper on August 15, 2012, 01:56:04 PM
Having fitted Peco wheels to all my rolling stock, all went well with the Farish wagons, but it was the single Peco wagon where the axles were too wide, were a devil to fit, and are now too tight to turn. Wish the above advice had come a few weeks ago! The problem now is that I can't get the axles back out again.  :doh:
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Caz on August 15, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: Willerby on August 15, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
I find these work well without any modification. I have replaced all my peco wagon wheels with these because those plastic ones are a bit last century :p

http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=6.2mm (http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=6.2mm)

Two types are currently out of stock but should be back in within a few days.

Sorted, order placed, thanks for the info Willerby  :beers:
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: BurtonWetmore on August 15, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
Thank you :)

It's packaged up and will be out to you in todays post.

Many thanks,
Lucy
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Caz on August 15, 2012, 04:17:57 PM
Now, that's what I call service, had email confirmations etc within 5 minutes of ordering and being shipped same day, brilliant service Lucy.   :thankyousign:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: BurtonWetmore on August 15, 2012, 04:37:21 PM
Its not what you know, it's who you know ;)
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Newportnobby on August 15, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: Willerby on August 15, 2012, 04:37:21 PM
Its not what you know, it's who you know ;)

I had the same great service with some pre soldered fishplates for code 80/55 :thumbsup: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: painbrook on August 15, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
Quote from: Kipper on August 15, 2012, 01:56:04 PM
Having fitted Peco wheels to all my rolling stock, all went well with the Farish wagons, but it was the single Peco wagon where the axles were too wide, were a devil to fit, and are now too tight to turn. Wish the above advice had come a few weeks ago! The problem now is that I can't get the axles back out again.  :doh:
Kipper, have you tried a 2LB knockometer?, if done carefully some of it might be reusable :doh:. Cheers john.
Title: Re: Peco wagon wheels
Post by: Kipper on August 15, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
Actually, I have decided to try and cut the axles in half, so the pinpoints will drop out, then follow advice above (of enlarging bearing holes, that is). As it is an out of era wagon, I could junk it, but it was bought by an unaware friend, who will notice it is not on track!