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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: KipperPK on September 10, 2026, 10:27:36 AM

Title: Steam
Post by: KipperPK on September 10, 2026, 10:27:36 AM
My layout has until now been all diesel, but I've just bought my first steamer (sound fitted Farish Standard 5) to start filling my 'heritage yard'. I'd like to have some steam/smoke 'around' it whilst it's sitting in the yard. Anybody done this? Any suggestions about how I might go about this would be appreciated (if it's even possible).
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: eddief83 on September 10, 2026, 10:33:04 AM
Assuming by around it you mean smoke/steam coming from the general area not the engine itself. You could put a smoke generator under the board with holes for the smoke to escape up.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2026, 10:39:06 AM
Quote from: eddief83 on Today at 10:33:04 AMAssuming by around it you mean smoke/steam coming from the general area not the engine itself. You could put a smoke generator under the board with holes for the smoke to escape up.

Here's an example of the above normally fitted to a loco in bigger gauges.

https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/seuthe-loco-smoke-unit-no-27-10-16v-dc-ac/?

A former member of this forum actually used them to create smoke in tunnel mouths on exit of steam trains from said tunnel. Amazing modelling.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 10, 2026, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on Today at 10:39:06 AM
Quote from: eddief83 on Today at 10:33:04 AMAssuming by around it you mean smoke/steam coming from the general area not the engine itself. You could put a smoke generator under the board with holes for the smoke to escape up.

Here's an example of the above normally fitted to a loco in bigger gauges.

https://rainbowrailways.co.uk/product/seuthe-loco-smoke-unit-no-27-10-16v-dc-ac/?

A former member of this forum actually used them to create smoke in tunnel mouths on exit of steam trains from said tunnel. Amazing modelling.

Was that caz Mick?
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.30


@Newportnobby using an e cigarette or something similar
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 10, 2026, 10:41:07 AM
Yes you can add a stationary steam/smoke generator, there are kit/sets out there for things like bonfires or factory chimneys.  Model boat part suppliers sometimes stock such generators. 

Seuthe were a well known brand for smoke generators that use specialised light oil and a heating element.  I think they're still going. As used in older Triang Hornby locos and other brands.  I have two or three N gauge locos factory fitted with Seuthe units.

It's interesting that Hornby have brought out smoke generators for some of the OO locos which I believe use an utrasound water vapour approach - a bit like "pond fogger" units.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Bealman on September 10, 2026, 10:48:04 AM
Yes, I have Seuthe generators in chimneys on my layout. But I'm not sure they're available any more, nor the smoke juice, for that matter.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: KipperPK on September 10, 2026, 11:21:20 AM
Thanks for the comments so far, all useful. I'm really not sure about the 'heating' aspect of the Seuthe type generators. Being located as they would be under wooden boards covered in flammable material. That coupled with the fact that they are seemingly not made anymore! The ultra sonic 'fogger' idea is appealing, but is there anything suitable? Seems like 'more modern' technology.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: ntpntpntp on September 10, 2026, 11:22:58 AM
You can certainly still get the smoke oil under various brands, even scented stuff!

Graupner were/are another brand which I associated more with model boats.  Quite possibly Seuthe units re-branded.

@KipperPK.  most Seuthe products are still made and available as far as I know (I think they did stop making the N gauge loco units).  I think Sommerfeldt have taken over the range. (I know them for catenary systems).

Here's a link to the info on units for buildings

https://seuthe-dampf.de/gebaeude/
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Bealman on September 10, 2026, 11:35:28 AM
The heat is hardly a factor. It's only a small element and the smoke juice turns to smoke quickly. You don't need to run them all the time

Mine are installed in plastic chimneys, and there's no problem.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Roy L S on September 10, 2026, 12:07:16 PM
On a layout I had many years ago a Seuthe smoke unit was positioned between the rails in the goods yard so that the goods loco when taking a break from shunting got parked over it and the unit was switched on providing an envelope of smoke and "steam" around the loco. It worked OK and seemed to get some positive reactions.
Title: Re: Steam
Post by: Bealman on September 10, 2026, 12:10:41 PM
As a kid I think I used to get high on it coming from my Triang locomotives! ;D