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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: will99 on January 25, 2026, 05:30:07 PM

Title: Loco choice /differences ?
Post by: will99 on January 25, 2026, 05:30:07 PM
Hi,

Looking at the Graham Farish Diesel Locos we seem stuck between the Class 47/0  D1601 for around £152  or one of the LMS1000/1 twins which are just under £100, in Black or Green livery.

Interested to know what others think of these two diesels, is either any better than the other and why are the LMS ones so much cheaper  ?

TIA.


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c)


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c)



Title: Re: Loco choice /differences ?
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 25, 2026, 06:13:48 PM
I do not have that particular class 47 but have several examples and can say they generally run very well.

More importantly the Class 47 were extremely common and long lasting, as such they are essential for many modellers regions and era.

I suggest the higher price is simply a supply and demand issue based on this.

By the same logic, the LMS "Twins"  only ever had two examples (detail differences aside) and as such are rather more niche for modellers needs. As such I am not sure they have sold that well and can be found in many sales.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Loco choice /differences ?
Post by: PLD on January 25, 2026, 06:34:17 PM
Quote from: will99 on Today at 05:30:07 PMwhy are the LMS ones so much cheaper  ?

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-825e-class-47-0-d1601-br-green-small-yellow-panels-diesel-locomotive?_pos=113&_fid=0c2be8d97&_ss=c)


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/lms-10001-br-lined-green-late-crest-diesel-locomotive?_pos=14&_fid=4ce70a8a8&_ss=c)
The LMS 'twins' are actually a fiver more at RRP, £184.95 vs £179.95... Those are one specific retailers discounted prices...

The 47 is RRP-15% which is the lowest they are permitted to go within the first 90 days after release. The Twins have been around quite a while now and that is seemingly one of the less popular liveries (note other liveries e.g. LMS Black 10000 are not so easily found) hence -46% (which is admittedly a very good reduction) to clear remaining stock.
Older releases of 47s can be had for £120ish elsewhere.
If you wait a while, that particular 47 might be discounted further, or on the other hand it might sell out at that level - you take that gamble...
Title: Re: Loco choice /differences ?
Post by: Skyline2uk on January 25, 2026, 09:17:48 PM
Just to add another point building on what @PLD is saying about discounts and liveries.

Taking my most recent Swallow class 47 as an example, I pre-ordered that because I couldn't risk them be so popular that they sold out.

Some liveries do seem to linger in model shops and are thus getting quite cheap. As an example, Virgin liveried class 47s didn't seem to be that popular.

Skyline2uk