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Title: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Adam1701D on December 09, 2025, 03:23:01 PM
Dapol are asking for expressions of interest in Stanier non-toiler suburban stock. The choices are Third, Composite, Brake Third and Driving Brake Third (for push-pull operation).

Livery choices are LMS maroon, BR Crimson, BR Plain Maroon and BR Lined Maroon.

Please visit https://www.dapol.co.uk/pages/expression-of-interest-for-lms-suburban-coaches-project (https://www.dapol.co.uk/pages/expression-of-interest-for-lms-suburban-coaches-project) for more info and to express interest.
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Dalek on December 09, 2025, 03:48:42 PM
Can anyone help with a typical rake of these please ?

End of Steam period I'm interested in

Thanks

Craig
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2025, 03:49:24 PM
I couldn't see pricing, Adam.
Any clues?
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Adam1701D on December 09, 2025, 03:56:53 PM
Apologies - full details including price (£39.95) is here:

https://www.dapol.co.uk/blogs/news/n-gauge-lms-period-iii-57ft-non-lavatory-suburban-stock (https://www.dapol.co.uk/blogs/news/n-gauge-lms-period-iii-57ft-non-lavatory-suburban-stock)
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Steven B on December 09, 2025, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Dalek on Today at 03:48:42 PMCan anyone help with a typical rake of these please ?

Suburbans marked in bold:
1964:
Windermere-Oxenhome BS C BCK BSK CK BSK (bold = suburban, others Mk1 heading to Euston)

Manchester Vic to Blackpool: BS C BS S BS C BS S (all suburbans, front BS C BS S from Southport to Blackpool Central, second set from Bolton to Blackpool North). Note brake vehicles not at end of train!

Manchester Vic to Blackpool: BS C BS S S S CK BSK (CK and BSK corridor stock for Fleetwood).

Manchester Vic to Blackpool: BS S CK BS BSK SK CK BSK (SK/CK/BSK all corridor to Barrow). Initial CK also coridor.

Manchester Vic to Blackpool: BS C BS BS C BS S CK BSK + 3x fish vans

Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: madchadbrad on December 09, 2025, 04:29:34 PM
We haven't seen decent/accurate suburban coaches (apart from Dapol's B-sets and the Mk1 suburbains from Farish) since the old generic ones produced by pre-China Grafar in all the liveries under the sun! They even used the non-corridor side moulding for the corridor/express coach versions! The only other difference was that the carriage ends had moulded corridor connections.
The driving brake 3rd is a complete RTR novelty, only previously model-able as a DIY conversion.
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Cols on December 09, 2025, 05:18:10 PM
This really is great news...

However, as a BR(WR/SR) modeller, I'd like to put in a request for the excellent Maunsell High Window stock models to be re-issued in BR Stock Green...

Nonetheless, it is very good to have more non corridor stock available, or in the offing. As one correspondent has just put it, we've had to put up with that ancient 1970s/80s FICTIONAL non-gangwayed stock from Grafar, the quite old (but still very nice) Dapol WR B-Set, and of course, the Farish BR suburbans which seem to be not always available in either suitable types or liveries. I hope that the LMS/BR(LMR/ScR) modellers realise how fortunate they are.
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: madchadbrad on December 09, 2025, 05:41:52 PM
Just a bit off topic (and there's probably already a thread?):
What do people think of Dapol's corridor connecting bellows on their Maunsell coaches?
How feasible would it be to produce their Gresley coaches with similar bellows? Collett coaches too?

Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: nabber on December 09, 2025, 05:49:51 PM
A nice surprise! I've built most of these, but have signed up for some lined maroon ones - I'm not sure I can face doing lining transfers around all the door handles on mine. The driving brake third will go nicely with the Ivatt 2MT when it's re-released.

Neil
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2025, 07:02:56 PM
I could feasibly use these for the 'Newport Nobby' but then, how the heck do I get it into either of my layouts when it only ran between Wolverton and Newport Pagnell? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Stanier Suburbans from Dapol
Post by: Adam1701D on December 09, 2025, 07:11:39 PM
Quote from: Cols on Today at 05:18:10 PMThis really is great news...

However, as a BR(WR/SR) modeller, I'd like to put in a request for the excellent Maunsell High Window stock models to be re-issued in BR Stock Green...

Nonetheless, it is very good to have more non corridor stock available, or in the offing. As one correspondent has just put it, we've had to put up with that ancient 1970s/80s FICTIONAL non-gangwayed stock from Grafar, the quite old (but still very nice) Dapol WR B-Set, and of course, the Farish BR suburbans which seem to be not always available in either suitable types or liveries. I hope that the LMS/BR(LMR/ScR) modellers realise how fortunate they are.

Nothing certain but we are looking at a possible run of the high-window Maunsells in (correct) BR(S) Green. Don't tell anyone I said this :-)

Adding the Maunsell-style bellows to the Gresleys would require expensive retooling of the roof, chassis and ends, which we can't justify under current conditions.