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Title: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: geofff on August 31, 2025, 12:09:02 PM
Hello

Could not find any new topics for the Pannier 64xx. If they are here then I apologise as I cannot find them.

Is this a new model ,as it has a coreless motor? Does anyone have any experience of this model?
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2025, 12:32:25 PM
Hi Geoff,
7 pages here from inception to how they run

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?msg=325555

I have one and it runs a treat

(https://live.staticflickr.com/31337/53676930265_bfa9285d60_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pMfihV)Farish 64xx pannier tank + Autocoach on Heatherley (https://flic.kr/p/2pMfihV) by Mick Hollyoake (https://www.flickr.com/photos/182878845@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: Roy L S on August 31, 2025, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: geofff on August 31, 2025, 12:09:02 PMHello

Could not find any new topics for the Pannier 64xx. If they are here then I apologise as I cannot find them.

Is this a new model ,as it has a coreless motor? Does anyone have any experience of this model?

It is not a new model, it is a further production run of the previously introduced 64xx in some new liveries, but aside from that it is identical cosmetically and mechanically, and so yes indeed, has a coreless motor and a 6 pin decoder socket designed for Bachmann's right-angle decoders.

Regards

Roy

 
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: geofff on August 31, 2025, 06:48:36 PM
Thanks for the input

Regards
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: Cols on September 19, 2025, 05:32:02 PM
Have just come across this thread. 
I have one of the original issue of the BachFar 64XXs (6412 in BR lined green). I will always say that the Dapol 57XX/8750 pannier is an excellent model, but it seems to be a disappointing runner - mine has expired - and it's noisy (too darned noisy!). My 64XX is quite capable of handling six BachFar Hawksworth coaches, though on my layout it will be confined to what it was designed to do - hauling Auto-trailers, or working with a B-Set.  It is a superbly quiet runner.
To be rather pedantic, the 64XX Class were only 40 in number, being built in four Lots between 1932 and 1937; they were designed principally for work in South Wales where the 48/14XX 0-4-2T locomotives were at a disadvantage on the steep gradients of the lines in the Valleys. To be even more pedantic, my copy of the RCTS "Locomotives of the Great Western Railway" part 6 informs us that 25 of these locomotives were initially sent to work in the Cardiff and Newport Valleys, and between Pontypool Road and Swansea, and also between Swansea and Carmarthen. 8 were sent to Plymouth (Laira) for working the Saltash suburban services (frequently sandwiched between two pairs of auto-trailers); 2 more went to Kidderminster Shed; 3 more were at Stourbridge; and 2 more went to Wolverhampton (Stafford Road Shed).
By 1954, South Wales had gained 5 more, from other Divisions, to work the former LMS lines between Abergavenny and Merthyr, and between Nantybwch and Risca.
BR classified the 64XX Class 0-6-0PTs as 2P.
I would wholeheartedly recommend this model, and wish that BachFar, and not Dapol, had produced models of the 863-strong 57XX Class of 0-6-0PT to the same standard as their 64XX.  I am very happy with my Dapol locomotives - except for their 57XX!
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: Newportnobby on September 19, 2025, 09:47:40 PM
Banbury had a couple in the 50/60s which was close enough for me :)
Title: Re: Farish Pannier 64xx
Post by: geofff on September 20, 2025, 09:45:23 AM
Thanks Cols and Newport

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