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Title: AI and trains
Post by: port perran on February 18, 2025, 03:49:29 PM
I've been playing around with AI Imaging Projects and came up with this :

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/149/230-180225154857.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=149259)
I'm not sure that AI has grasped what should be in the tender  ???
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: chrism on February 18, 2025, 04:02:13 PM
It hasn't quite grasped the purpose of coupling rods either  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Newportnobby on February 18, 2025, 04:06:27 PM
Not sure if I have any real intelligence let alone the artificial sort :-[
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Train Waiting on February 18, 2025, 05:17:52 PM
Looks like one of those pub signs painted by someone who has never seen a steam locomotive.

I think we are safe from AI for a while yet.

All good wishes.

John
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Bealman on February 18, 2025, 10:35:01 PM
I love the people in the tender. I know a few I'd be quite happy to see in there :D
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: grumbeast on February 18, 2025, 10:52:46 PM
As someone who spent most of their 20s and 30s in AI research, all I can say is I'm sorry, and I hope it never gets better than this and that we realise what a fools errand it all is.

I have to say though, people seem to be a pretty smoke free fuel

Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: PLD on February 18, 2025, 11:18:46 PM
So called "AI" is very much the latest fad, but much of the technology that is labelled as such is in reality high intensity but dumb machine processing, following or applying a predefined detailed ruleset, but does not have the capacity to ingest feedback to autonomously learn and adapt.

The true test is to submit the same request in six months time and see what the results are - has it learnt from it's errors or does it give an identical result? If it's the same it's not 'intelligent' it's just dumb processing following a fixed ruleset.  >:(
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Snowwolflair on February 18, 2025, 11:50:06 PM
Looking at the picture DAPOL now makes sense.  ????
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2025, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: PLD on February 18, 2025, 11:18:46 PMSo called "AI" is very much the latest fad, but much of the technology that is labelled as such is in reality high intensity but dumb machine processing, following or applying a predefined detailed ruleset, but does not have the capacity to ingest feedback to autonomously learn and adapt.


Let's hope it never gains that capacity. Another 'SkyNet', anyone? :worried:  ;)
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Bealman on February 19, 2025, 09:49:52 AM
I really don't know what the fuss is about. As PLD says, it's merely number crunching big time.

This stuff is presented, but it's us who determine if a load of crap or not.

I worry about the music people getting ripped off, though.

Ah, crap, don't look at it. Problem solved!
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: ntpntpntp on February 19, 2025, 10:03:28 AM
I'm glad I'm pretty much at the end of my career as a software developer (only a handful of years to go, and really only staying on to look after older systems and keep building up the retirement toy train fund :) )   My company are getting all excited about CoPilot and ChatGPT but I'm afraid AI just doesn't interest me at all.

Worst use of "generative AI" has to be the rubbish ebay listing descriptions, no intelligence there at all it's just regurgitating unhelpful garbage.
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: njee20 on February 19, 2025, 11:29:57 AM
Of course it's easy to scoff at stuff like this and say "how absurd, what does this supposed "AI" know", but then have you seen any of the stuff about asking people on the street to draw a bicycle!?

This sort of use of AI is akin to the early days of the iPhone, when you could "drink" a virtual pint by tipping the phone. It's a daft novelty which serves no meaningful purpose. However there are some genuinely interesting applications of the technology. I read an interesting piece the other day about the prevalence of software engeering roles. They've more than halved since 2022, because teams are using native AI tools to write code faster. I'm a little sceptical, but I know a number of our engineers use it. You can have a debate with it, which can be helpful to test ideas and validate thoughts, or come up with angles you may not have done.

Even stupid stuff like writing Excel formulae, if you want to know how to do something then ask in plain English (I want to know how many people in this list want the beef for dinner etc) it'll produce (and explain) the formula. That's helpful, and you can tweak the ask; "no, sorry, the data is in column B" or whatever.

Will it give a better result in 6 months time when asked to make a picture of a steam train? Who knows, probably, particularly if you help it by saying it needs coal in the tender, and what the coupling rods do etc, but that isn't really the point.
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2025, 11:44:55 AM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/149/264-190225114417-1492691044.jpeg)
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: mickeyflinn on February 19, 2025, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 19, 2025, 11:44:55 AM(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/149/264-190225114417-1492691044.jpeg)
Central heating for the tent - be nice and cosy for a few minutes!!
Title: Re: AI and trains
Post by: acook on February 20, 2025, 02:02:51 AM
but when her tent burns down she would have to share mine.  :claphappy:
And it generated the image by just reading my thoughts................  :worried:

Alan