Hello all,
A confluence of posts and books led me to post this.
I have recently been amazed by the size of some collections of forum members.
This is list of stock from a reasonably well known modeller ;) after 2 decades of modelling. Not a lot by modern standards and availability, eh?
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My aim has been, where I can, is to maximise my % of kit built and bashed rolling stock.
I strangle myself somewhat because I have 2 couple systems running, but I managed to get somewhere near Rev Denny's quantity, at least for goods wagons (my main interest)
I allocated the following
6 coal wagons with Rapidos
5 general opens with Rapidos
4 vans with Rapidos
5 coal wagons with MTs
5 general wagons with MTs
4 vans with MTs.
Plus a few special traffics with various couplers.
I have a few coupler conversions to do and a few wagons a work in progress, but, by and large I will have a wagon fleet that can serve the size of the layout. Loads need to added to some of the opens.
This does not include all the LNER and GWR carriages, siphons, fruits and my railcars, but that is another story.
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Mark
Locomotives became more powerful and thus hauled longer trains. As I model transition era I have locos like 9Fs, 8Fs, WDs etc so my wagon total comes in at (currently) 297 (a paltry figure compared to the likes of
@Trainfish and
@Hailstone ), most of which are, or will be, weathered
Eek - that made me take a look at my goods wagon count; 435! But I probably only have about 20 on the layout at present, because I much prefer passenger trains. However, that still doesn't justify 293 coaches and 116 locomotives. I just have to stop buying stuff, I suppose. When tracklaying is finally complete, I will only have room for 24 trains. I started off full of good intentions, with David Jenkinson's advice that you should have a list of everything you need, and only buy or build it if it's on the list. But he probably never applied Rule One...
:worried:
I dont even want to count them, there are nearly 50 Class 66's alone.
Too many wheels for me to keep clean. :no:
Mark
I've tried to be more measured since I got back into N in 2013, and have managed to only buy stock that fits with Brickmakers Lane (BR SR), plus some stuff that will work on both this and James Street (BR Midland). Some things have appealed but having some financial constraints has helps. My wife and I each have £150 a month for "personal" spending, which covers clothes, a cycling holiday for me, plus anything needed for the layout. This does help keep a lid on excessive spending! I've still managed to acquire nearly 300 wagons, for a layout that can maybe take half that.......
Dave
Quote from: Graham on February 02, 2025, 08:54:10 AMI dont even want to count them, there are nearly 50 Class 66's alone.
I've tried to limit what I buy to what will fit in my storage yard.
So later this year I'll be adding storage yard number 2, if I can find somewhere to squeeze it in. :doh:
John P
Yes I try, but then Revolution keep releasing goodies, then the C-Rail container FSA etc are coming along and I will definitely need some of them.
Gosh I've 20 steam locos some in need of repair or becoming 'donors', 11 diesels and 5 DMUs covering nearly 3 eras.
Similarly the 42 carriages are spread over these periods and across mainline and surburban sets. Goods and PW wagons run to 56 again some need attention or dissecting!
Given the layout might run 3 "periods" of trains this seems plenty when it might at best accommodate 6 trains simultaneously - i might NOT be able to control 6 however! The other consideration is train length which will have to be small/short to match track 'blocks'.
Quote from: Greygreaser on February 04, 2025, 10:11:50 PMGiven the layout might run 3 "periods" of trains this seems plenty when it might at best accommodate 6 trains simultaneously - i might NOT be able to control 6 however! The other consideration is train length which will have to be small/short to match track 'blocks'.
I'm not sure about diesels, well, I suppose a few won't hurt, but for me, this collection size seems plenty, but not too much to manage. Besides, we don't have to have everything on the layout all the time, and definitely not if we have different periods.
On the other hand, I understand some forum members exhibit their layouts or are involved with large / multiple club layouts for which they provide stock with many long trains running. So, plenty of opportunity for more variety.
Mark
I have never counted my wagons but I have a lot less than some of the above. All the wagons on my railways are there for purpose with pretty much no purchases that don't fit location or era. I have no problem with "rule 1" but its not what I want to do.
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This photo conveniently shows my three most used freight trains - the clayliner which consists of 31 Peco 5 plank wagons plus brake van, the Kensington milk which of course consists of Dapol milk tanks plus a bogie brake and my standard goods train. This goods train consists of over 35 wagons, mostly vans of various types plus a few tanks and open wagons.
I have a six wagon plus brake van engineers train made of Grampus kit built wagons.
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In steam era I run a short pick up goods
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The above trains are good for the 1950s and 1960s but when running my 1980s stock the freight trains are quite different.
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I have a short "general" freight train. These wagons would probably be heading for the naval dockyards at Plymouth.
I found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period. I do know that the old clay wagons were replaced by CDA wagons during this time and this train represents new CDAs being taken from Exeter to Cornwall by non other than William Cookworthy.
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Effectively the return working of the above, the old "clayhoods" being taken from Cornwall for scrapping. This fine photo is courtesy of Chris Nevard/Model Rail
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I also run trains from the current scene. This is hampered at the moment because I am waiting for the Revolution 66 to arrive. I have managed to assemble two freight trains which I think are suitable for the era and location.
The engineers train using Dapol JNAs
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I run these together with the modern day equivalent to the clayliner using JIAs. Please Revolution get those 66s built, I'm desperate!
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My other layout, Cwm Bach and Llados Halt is a simple affair set in the late 50s or early 60s. I just use 4 vans and 4 coal wagons on this layout. A train of 2 vans plus 2 full coal wagons comes to Cwm Bach and is shunted into the yard and then the empty coal wagons and vans are taken back along the line.
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The coal yard at Cwm Bach. The empty coal wagons are being shunted out of the way so the full ones can be put into the yard. The coal loads have a piece of metal under the coal so the wagons can be "unloaded" by holding a magnet over them.
I can't claim that I never stray from the straight and narrow.....
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Thanks Chris. Lovely layouts.
I had to google the J.Jones butcher reference and realised it wasn't the local butcher shop in Thetford :no: , but rather it was a Dad's Army character ;D .
Anyway, the vented van looks like it belongs.
Mark
They don't like it up em, Captain! ;D
All of my freight trains are going from somewhere to somewhere else for a reason. I find that in itself makes the passing train more interesting. I like to make up trains that are similar to photos in books. I particularly enjoy watching a long freight train run into the loop, get overtaken by an express and then slowly continue.
find that longer freight trains need to be driven properly rather than just run. My freight trains rarely give me any grief in terms of derailments. If wagons occasionally uncouple I put a minute blob of black "blue tack" on them and the problem goes away. This has fixed the Revolution tankers problem.
When running long freights I don't think anyone notices the details on the wagons. Nobody at an exhibition has ever commented on how great the Revolution tank wagons are. Likewise I would struggle to spot the cheaper Peco vans scattered amongst the various Farish vans in my van train. I think the important thing for a van train is to have as many different ones as you can find. This is of course in terms of van styles not liveries.
Do you not have a Ginsters cornish pasty van Chris ? :)
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 10:39:04 AMI think the important thing for a van train is to have as many different ones as you can find. This is of course in terms of van styles not liveries.
100% agree, particularly with a small number of wagons. I don't see why a limited number of wagons couldn't be all different types. I mean, even in early BR days there were still grouping and pre-grouping stock in traffic.
Mark
i Think i need to have a word with myself;
i see a wagon / coach/ LOco, i like it i buy it, it becomes a train
so i now have
A full train of Mk1's all with different e region numbers (plus an A4
a Full train odf Dapol gresleys all with different e region numbers (Plus an A1
Plus enough left over for a 5 coach stopper of Thompsons ( plus a B17
a suburban rake plus a standard 3 tank
a Parcels rake plus a B1
a Perishables/ fast freight PLUS AN a3
a mostly vans fully fitted plus a 9f
a Rake of Hoppers plus a j39
a rake of ex p/os plus 16t minerals plus a wd
a rake of Tankers plus a J50
Assorted Loco depot wagons ( coal/ sand) PLUS A j94
Assorted P/way vehicles plus an Ivatt 2
Thomas tte plus trains x 2
A rake of Minitrix christmas special edition wagons with a German loco
A collection of over a hundred attractive/ collectable p/o wagons
:goggleeyes:
I do keep thinking about a layout, honest
Hi guys. :wave:
Just stumbled across this topic, and this is an interesting topic.
I have done a reasonable about of research into this subject by looking into Working Timetables and other Railway documents, such as Freight Train Load Books. So for those who dont know, heres a little ramble into both of these... (Sorry. This may get detailed and long :D )
Working Timetables
Working Timetables (WTT) would list the amount of services they would think could handle the amount of traffic in the given area. These documents also sometimes contained Notes for specific freight services (though these did vary from region to region and then also depended on the time the WTT was from) that contained special information (eg; to convey an extra Brake Van to x location or to pick up loaded wagons only; etc)
These could also have marshaling instructions, which would list the formation of the train by destination of the wagons. Depending on the type of freight train, these could be anything from detailed to vague. Here are a couple of examples:
07.18pm Norwich Thorpe-Spitalfields Class D (Worked by Stratford Britannia to Temple Mills)
Formation:-Engine-Bishopsgate(fitted)-Cattle for via ELL(fitted)-Temple Mills(unfitted)-Spitalfields and Bishopsgate (unfitted)-Brake.
02.35am Temple Mills-Hertford East Class H
Formation:-Engine-stations Roydon and Sawbridgeworth inclusive (to be worked on 6.12am Broxbourne to Bishop's Stortford)-Rye House-Broxbourne-St Margaret's and Buntingford Branch-Ware-Hertford-Brake. To work from Broxbourne milk and fish off 11.15pm Pcls ex Peterboro' East. When load from St. Margaret's exceeds 25 wagons, St Margaret's signalman to confer with Hertford East signalman before allowing train to proceed.
(This last Note is a good example of how long these notes could be) (These are from Winter 1952 WTTs that I own)
These notes where to help staff with shunting at Marshaling Yards and the local Station Yards. The idea was to get the job done in as few moves as possible, so the traffic wasn't delayed as long as possible. This would of been important, as a Pick Up Goods stopping at a local station would (generally) block the line to other traffic, unless the Goods Yard was able to contain the whole train.
These notes can help us as modelers to make our trains more realistic, not only when running, but also when shunting, as the formation (with sections in the freight) would still need to be kept for stations further down the line.
This also makes things interesting for those who model a junction station or have a small Marshaling Yard. Attached is a copy of a PDF I made from a WTT I own of Park Yard (This was a Yard in Tottenham. If you google Northumberland Park station, the Yard was located where the LUL Victoria Line Depot is now) What is of interest is notes 14; 16 & 17 on Page 4, as these show notes for a few of the services that terminated at this Yard. These where to enable wagons to be connected with Faster freights that left the Yard for Whitemoor and Niddrie. These wouldn't of just have wagons for these services on them, but would need to shunted into the right order/position so that the train would be ready (if the train started in the Yard) or be ready for the train so that could be delt with in the aloted time. (Normally this process would have involved the Yard Pilot and Train Engine working together and attaching/detaching in tandom)
Freight Train Loads Book
Another type of Document that worked alongside the WTT, but was more of a 'Rule Book' for freight trains. This contained a number of sections, some of which was more general, but other parts were more specific for the area in question. (Each Line/Area had its own book).
The First parts to each book where more general information regarding freight trains. These were rules regarding what kind of wagons could be in the same train (explosives & oil tanks were a no no) and then how these loads should be marshaled in a train (eg; the middle or 2 wagons from engine & brake). It also discussed what the standard messurement of a wagon was in length (a 16t BR Open) and then how you should judge these against that standard (eg: a bogie bolster would be longer that the standard so would be treated as 3 wagons, even though it was 1 wagon! :confused1: ) More on this in a minute...
There is also a description of each type of freight train and how these trains should be formed, what speed they could run at and what wagons can be in them. This was to with the brakes on the wagons (fitted/unfitted) but also to do with the wagons construction (oil or grease axle boxes) An example of this would be a Class D freight train: This had to have 1 3rd of the train connected to the train brake and could travel at an average of 40mph. So this train could include unfitted wagons at the rear of the train, but these needed to have oil axle boxes.
This is followed by a section that lists all the lines in the area and gives 2 pieces of information:
1) The max length of wagons allowed on the route (This was governed mainly by Block sections)
2) The weight limit allowed on the route (This was between 1-9, with 1 being the steepest)
The next part of each book would list the number of wagons each engine type could pull based on weight. (This was a basic formula based of 1 loaded coal wagon. So 1 coal wagon = 1.75 goods wagons = 2 empty wagons) This used the (then) standard BR (ex-LMS) power classification of each loco. (eg an Ivatt 2MT) This was in the form of a Table that had the locos down 1 side and the route numbers on the other.
The way this would work is something like this: (Here comes the math bit.. :worried: )
So we have an N7 tank. This was a 3MT, so on a Route that was a no 1 it could pull 16 coal wagons but on a no 9 route it could pull 40. But if the line had a length limit of 25, then it could only pull 25 coal wagons regardless of what the weight limit was (Unless it was a route no 1) Hope you get the idea from this and that this actually makes sense!
How would this work for us modelers? Well the first part would make them look more realistic but the section regarding length and load limits probably isn't practical unless you have the length where you would be able to notice the difference.
Hope you found this interesting and that you are still reading up to this point, though i did say this would be a long one. :smiley-laughing:
Stu
Thanks very much for this, Stu.
It's a subject on which a short series rather like the 'Beginners guide to steam locos' would make interesting reading.
I'm aware of some of this, but thanks for the actual examples given.
Wasn't another restriction in length dependent upon the length of refuge sidings available on a given route?
Thanks again.
Martyn
Quote from: martyn on February 06, 2025, 05:01:14 PMThanks very much for this, Stu.
It's a subject on which a short series rather like the 'Beginners guide to steam locos' would make interesting reading.
I'm aware of some of this, but thanks for the actual examples given.
Wasn't another restriction in length dependent upon the length of refuge sidings available on a given route?
Thanks again.
Martyn
Thanks
@martyn!
The 'Beginners guide to Freight Trains' series does sound like a good idea. Think I might leave it until I I've sorted the 3rd Version of my Magazine out.
Loop length is an interesting one. The loops/refuge sidings are listed in the documents, but they do have a length in a number of wagons against them. Some even had calling on signals on the signal that lead into the loop, so more than one train could be put into the same line.
I've not seen anything that shows that train length was restricted by loops/refuge sidings, but the fact that its listed would indicate it was more of a regulatory issue. So this would be to do with Control making sure that a freight would fit in the siding, especially if the freight was being 'looped' as it was going to get in the way of a faster train coming up behind it.
Stu
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 06:32:44 AMThe above trains are good for the 1950s and 1960s but when running my 1980s stock the freight trains are quite different.
I have a short "general" freight train. These wagons would probably be heading for the naval dockyards at Plymouth.
I found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period. I do know that the old clay wagons were replaced by CDA wagons during this time and this train represents new CDAs being taken from Exeter to Cornwall by non other than William Cookworthy.
Effectively the return working of the above, the old "clayhoods" being taken from Cornwall for scrapping. This fine photo is courtesy of Chris Nevard/Model Rail
@Chris Morris - These pictures are my teens, as I'm sure I have said before! Your general freight train might well be heading for RNAD Ernesettle (Bull Point having closed and been lifted by the early 80s), to this day there's still a path for an armaments working in the WTT. I would love to know if a 33 ever made it down the branch on that working, I have to say!
CDAs hung around for a very long time, even seeing use behind 67s and 66s. A rake is preserved at Bodmin Railway, a good foil for their excellent rake of hoods.
The excellent silver bullets are possibly your missing link to the JIAs, they run well with a Transrail 60.
Quote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 06:32:44 AMI found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period.
There's a forum member called "Tim H", who posted here exactly twice, both times in September 2015. From the subject of those posts (attending a gig in Leamington after going to TINGS), my guess is that it's a gentleman called Tim Hall, whose personal website is still available and contains a page of Cornish Speedlink formations from 1986 onwards at http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html. You might find some interesting ideas there.
Jim
This makes interesting reading.
https://www.igg.org.uk/rail/
Quote from: Jim Martin on February 10, 2025, 04:57:38 PMQuote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 06:32:44 AMI found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period.
There's a forum member called "Tim H", who posted here exactly twice, both times in September 2015. From the subject of those posts (attending a gig in Leamington after going to TINGS), my guess is that it's a gentleman called Tim Hall, whose personal website is still available and contains a page of Cornish Speedlink formations from 1986 onwards at http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html. You might find some interesting ideas there.
Jim
The link no longer appears to work, sadly.
Quote from: Foxhound on February 11, 2025, 11:53:10 AMQuote from: Jim Martin on February 10, 2025, 04:57:38 PMQuote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 06:32:44 AMI found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period.
There's a forum member called "Tim H", who posted here exactly twice, both times in September 2015. From the subject of those posts (attending a gig in Leamington after going to TINGS), my guess is that it's a gentleman called Tim Hall, whose personal website is still available and contains a page of Cornish Speedlink formations from 1986 onwards at http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html. You might find some interesting ideas there.
Jim
The link no longer appears to work, sadly.
That's odd, because it works for me on my phone (Chrome on Android) and my work laptop (Chrome on Windows 10 or 11)
Quote from: Foxhound on February 11, 2025, 11:53:10 AMQuote from: Jim Martin on February 10, 2025, 04:57:38 PMQuote from: Chris Morris on February 05, 2025, 06:32:44 AMI found it harder to find good freight workings for the West Country in this period.
There's a forum member called "Tim H", who posted here exactly twice, both times in September 2015. From the subject of those posts (attending a gig in Leamington after going to TINGS), my guess is that it's a gentleman called Tim Hall, whose personal website is still available and contains a page of Cornish Speedlink formations from 1986 onwards at http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html. You might find some interesting ideas there.
Jim
The link no longer appears to work, sadly.
http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html
It's working ok for me and most interesting.
There is a warning the site is not secure but it can be opened
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 11, 2025, 07:42:16 PMThere is a warning the site is not secure but it can be opened
I'll try it on my other laptop, that might be the issue. It works on my phone now, but not on Chrome. Very odd. Excellent resource, thank you!
Quote from: joe cassidy on February 05, 2025, 11:31:52 AMDo you not have a Ginsters cornish pasty van Chris ? :)
Please don't use the G word in the same sentence as Cornish pasty, the natives will riot.... :smiley-laughing:
I'm pretty sure there were never any real Ginsters branded railway vans although I would be happy to be proven wrong. There were some Ginsters liveried 158s but these didn't appear until 2003 and were used in the Wales and Borders area. Interesting though they are, that makes them wrong for me both in terms of era and location.
A few Cargowaggon vans would fit in nicely for the 1980s. I could be tempted but I kind of feel I have all the stock I need to have a reasoanble set of freight (and passenger) trains for each era and my stock boxes are more then full. I have enjoyed researching and collecting over the last 12 years or so though. I've kept pretty much to the path I wanted with only a few strays being let in to my collection.
My two favourite freight trains remain my Clayliner using Peco 5 plank wagon kits.
And my mostly van train. This is an early version. The length is dictated by the length of the storage siding. I now run it with five "door to door" livery conflats behind the loco (I got that idea from a photo in Diesel Hydraulics a colour retrospective) and the clay empties at the rear of the train. There is something mesmerising about this train, especially when the signal goes to line clear and it slowly leaves the loop.
Taunton Cider vehicles and Polybulk maybe too late Chris. I love your freight trains especially the clayliner. Have you sent these Chris
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-more-photos-added-2024/page/2/
Quote from: Foxhound on February 12, 2025, 12:37:16 PMQuote from: joe cassidy on February 05, 2025, 11:31:52 AMDo you not have a Ginsters cornish pasty van Chris ? :)
Please don't use the G word in the same sentence as Cornish pasty, the natives will riot.... :smiley-laughing:
Compared to proper Cornish pasties the Ginster version is inedible.
Quote from: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2025, 02:29:48 PMTaunton Cider vehicles and Polybulk maybe too late Chris. I love your freight trains especially the clayliner. Have you sent these Chris
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-more-photos-added-2024/page/2/
Certainly a mid-80s thing, and a good crossover with CDAs. That RMWeb thread is a beaut!
Quote from: Foxhound on February 13, 2025, 02:35:24 PMQuote from: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2025, 02:29:48 PMTaunton Cider vehicles and Polybulk maybe too late Chris. I love your freight trains especially the clayliner. Have you sent these Chris
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-more-photos-added-2024/page/2/
Certainly a mid-80s thing, and a good crossover with CDAs.
That's exactly what I was thinking Rob
I thinking I should drop the clayhoods and get myself say three tigers, a ferry wagon and a cartoon. When suitably weathered that would be more convincing. Anybody want to buy some Peco clayhoods?
Quote from: crewearpley40 on February 13, 2025, 02:38:34 PMQuote from: Foxhound on February 13, 2025, 02:35:24 PMQuote from: crewearpley40 on February 12, 2025, 02:29:48 PMTaunton Cider vehicles and Polybulk maybe too late Chris. I love your freight trains especially the clayliner. Have you sent these Chris
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-more-photos-added-2024/page/2/
Certainly a mid-80s thing, and a good crossover with CDAs.
That's exactly what I was thinking Rob
My Speedlink rake is Taunton Cider, Ferryvan, Polybulk, Tiger, PAA, PRA (Shapeways) and I'm considering an HEA and a POA, possibly a second Tiger. Constantly on the lookout for a second PAA and if somebody at Kernow wants to put the shrinkray on the PRA I would have two, as the Shapeways one is okay, but it's not brilliant.
Also keen to find an N gauge ECC TUA, but were they a figment of my imagination?
Not sure if I'm in the market for more hoods at the moment, although I have just spotted that one of the old Poole BR blue 25s is 25326, which is ex-Laira and regularly seen on clays.
Quote from: port perran on February 12, 2025, 06:09:46 PMQuote from: Foxhound on February 12, 2025, 12:37:16 PMQuote from: joe cassidy on February 05, 2025, 11:31:52 AMDo you not have a Ginsters cornish pasty van Chris ? :)
Please don't use the G word in the same sentence as Cornish pasty, the natives will riot.... :smiley-laughing:
Compared to proper Cornish pasties the Ginster version is inedible.
It's an abomination. Barnecutts, Ann's, Philps, or even Cornish Oven are just a few examples of far superior pasty makers. I know there are others.
Rob
Consider Class 45 / 47
Dr Al regularly has 25 /3s on nporium
Farcebook
Chris
Quote from: Foxhound on February 14, 2025, 10:15:22 AMAlso keen to find an N gauge ECC TUA, but were they a figment of my imagination?
NGS kit? unless you want it from Revolution/Rainbow Railways in OO.
Quote from: Steven B on February 14, 2025, 08:01:23 PMQuote from: Foxhound on February 14, 2025, 10:15:22 AMAlso keen to find an N gauge ECC TUA, but were they a figment of my imagination?
NGS kit? unless you want it from Revolution/Rainbow Railways in OO.
Didn't know that, thanks Steven!
I guess many of us of a certain age recall being a passenger in a train and passing a freight train in the opposite direction. The rising and falling shapes just showed the diversity of some long mixed freights :D
Sometimes things come together quite nicely. This topic got me thinking that some tiger tankers would be useful for my 1980s stock and another topic here mentioned that Model Railways Direct were having a very good sale. So, a few days after reading the other topic and after parting with just over £80.....
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/149/3123-210225144421.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=149364)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/149/3123-210225144514.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=149365)
These are jolly good models. They will soon be receiving weathering.
A real goods train (my pic) back in 1977
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52505422423_2f18fb7620_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nZJ1PR)Flitwick freight (https://flic.kr/p/2nZJ1PR) by Bingley Hall (https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcarter/), on Flickr