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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: GWR-Kris on July 03, 2012, 02:36:09 PM

Title: GWR Toad Van
Post by: GWR-Kris on July 03, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
Silly question time, does it matter which way round the GWR toad vans are on the train, ie the veranda facing outwards or inwards. or does it not matter at all.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: oscar on July 03, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
Seem to remember always seeing them with the verandah at the back.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: Newportnobby on July 03, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Quote from: oscar on July 03, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
Seem to remember always seeing them with the verandah at the back.

Wot he said
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: Frank lax on July 03, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
Hi,

I've just had a look in Great Western Branch Line Album by Ian Krause and found a few pictures of goods trains with GW Toad brake vans with the veranda pointing either way. One photo is of a short train with two Toads, one at each end of the string of wagons, and both with the veranda pointing forwards.

Also, specifically on a branch line, unless there was a turntable some where there is no provision to turn any thing, loco or toad so I guess you can run them either way round, at least on a branch with no turning facilities.

Hope this helps

Regards

Frank
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: fisherman on July 03, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
rushes  out  to   model a   Toad on  a  turntable....
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: painbrook on July 03, 2012, 07:37:38 PM
I would have thought the veranda would have to point to the rear otherwise the train would block all the lovely views along the route :-\. Cheers john.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: port perran on July 03, 2012, 08:09:25 PM
Generally, on the main line with the verandah facing to the rear but on branch lines could be either way.
I believe it wasn't unheard of to have a van at either end of a rake of waggons so that the whole train could run in either direction.
Also sometimes one or more van could be marshalled in the middle of a train for when rakes of waggons were split at various points along the line.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: upnick on July 03, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: fisherman on July 03, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
rushes  out  to   model a   Toad on  a  turntable....

  ;):smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: GWR-Kris on July 04, 2012, 11:45:36 AM
reason i ask is becasue i want to put a flashing red light on to identify end of train, and its easier with the cabin at the back so i can hide the wiring etc easier. but at the same time i want it to be correct. ie if the veranda was facing away from the train.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: AndyGif on July 04, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
Flashing red? Is the wick in the parafin lamp a bit duff?!
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: BernardTPM on July 04, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
The lamps wouldn't normally be lit in daytime anyway, though you'll need to fit sidelights as well.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2012, 03:02:13 PM
Think if I was a guard I'd be a bit miffed if I walked out onto the verandah for tiffin and all I could see was the backside of a tippler wagon or the like :(
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: GWR-Kris on July 04, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: AndyGif on July 04, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
Flashing red? Is the wick in the parafin lamp a bit duff?!

oh flip im getting myself confused with the firebox darn it. lol
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: painbrook on July 04, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Nobby, you could eat your butties by the light of a flickering red light, very romantic. :-\. cheers john.
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2012, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: painbrook on July 04, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Nobby, you could eat your butties by the light of a flickering red light, very romantic. :-\. cheers john.

Hmmm - might attract the wrong sort of person, though :o
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: weave on July 05, 2012, 08:32:31 AM
Hi,

I model european and although I sort of guessed what a toad van was I had to look it up :-[.

Anyway thought this might be of interest en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GWR_wagon_AA20_TOAD_A_68777.jpg

Cheers Weave
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: weave on July 05, 2012, 08:37:39 AM
Doesn't seem to link. I'll try this and if not I'll have to go back to school!

File:GWR wagon AA20 TOAD A 68777.jpg - Wikipedia, the free ...
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: weave on July 05, 2012, 08:40:43 AM
I'll get my satchel.  :(
Title: Re: GWR Toad Van
Post by: GWR-Kris on July 05, 2012, 08:50:07 AM
cheers for the link, even shows where the side lights need to be attached.