Bachmann is unveiling a new tooling 12 noon tomorrow. For those unaware, previous videos have had a blue background for OO gauge tooling and green for Narrow Gauge - just like their boxes. The background of this is black, so are we about to get a New N gauge announcement?
Previous logic says tooling shown now, livery samples August with the model landing Septemebr-ish, possibly for TINGS
https://youtu.be/10pCUw8fAwY
'Confirmation' of the 69? 325 on the back of their 319 and announcement of their retirement this week? New toilet block? Exciting times...
A case of wait and see, I suppose. Of course "new tool" could mean anything, but as a stand alone announcement we can hope it will be something powered, and maybe after so long since the last totally new tool one it will be a steam loco this time :)
IT'S A V2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://news.bachmann.co.uk/2024/07/v2-0-for-graham-farish-v2-in-n-scale/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=v2-0-for-graham-farish-v2-in-n-scale
Looks nice, long requested by many.
Let's hope it is successful and then await the next one!
With my recent luck in kit building, at least it isn't a V1/V3 or K1!
Martyn
1980s condition Green Arrow please!
Steven B
I'd hope they fix the tendency of the front pony truck to wander which my old model tends to do. Mine also growls a bit and has the obvious bodily discrepancies which look to have been corrected on the new model. I have a black early crest which I will keep and wait to see what livery variants of a late crest they do
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 17, 2024, 01:18:05 PMI'd hope they fix the tendency of the front pony truck to wander which my old model tends to do. Mine also growls a bit and has the obvious bodily discrepancies which look to have been corrected on the new model. I have a black early crest which I will keep and wait to see what livery variants of a late crest they do
My predictions are
Green Arrow - LNER and/or BR Green (NRM Exclusive)
LNER Apple Green 4791
BR Black Early Crest 60845
BR Green Later Crest 60847
will Rails of Sheffield re-do their OO models and see 4843 KOYLI and 60964 DLI too
After trying various things i put lateral springing via the guidepost on mine, and still not ideal - but it is one of my favourites, and given the eye watering prices of new models will probably have to stay that way.
..Also the Tender /loco void on the new model is seriously off putting
Happy to see another LNER /ER though, an edition to the Thompsons coach range would also be grand ( a Kitchen? and or a nongang Lav Comp for instance)
Wow! I had been hoping that we would see a new V2 in N as it has so much going for it, but for it to now actually be announced is incredible news, and even in bare plastic and metal the model looks awesome and simply light years away from the somewhat compromised model of the early "noughties".
This loco will fit perfectly on my under construction GC layout, and for me it is one loco where the price will not be a major issue. I can see two BR sound fitted ones heading my way, depending on what is produced maybe a black and a green one. I would love to see 60828, a York engine with outside pipes regularly seen on the GC and frequently "borrowed" by Woodford Halse shed staff.
Roll on the 7th August for more news, but as we have only been shown EPs here, I am thinking delivery of the finished production locos may be somewhat later in the year rather than at TINGS.
Well done Bachmann!
Roy
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 17, 2024, 12:36:01 PMIT'S A V2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To be more precise, it's a V2 v2 :smiley-laughing:
Can we expect Thompson's A2 someday?
(In fact, I make fake A2 with old V2, new farish's bogie and A2 peppercorn shell)
Really hoping for a sound fitted Green Arrow, haven't got many steamers but that works for me
Cheers Colin
hm. i will wait and see exactly what they produce. For the use I make of it, I am not unhappy with my early version. I have modified the tender to take a NEM pocket and hence an easishunt coupling.
Great news, and good to see a new tooled steam loco. I may well purchase one to run at my local club.
As they seem to be working through their older fleet, maybe we'll see a new tooled Crab, 2P, 94xx and King in future years.
They'll arrive later this year :claphappy:
"With production of the first models nearing completion, the livery samples for these will be revealed in the Autumn 2024 British Railway Announcements which premieres on Wednesday 7th August 2024, during which details including pricing and availability will be confirmed. Visitors to the N Gauge Show in September will be able to inspect the models for themselves, ahead of their arrival in Autumn/Winter 2024"
https://news.bachmann.co.uk/2024/07/v2-0-for-graham-farish-v2-in-n-scale/
I owned an earlier version for a brief time but looking forward to v.2!
A not for me model but great to see Farish investing in steam models
John
Quote from: Ensign Elliott on July 17, 2024, 07:21:57 PMGreat news, and good to see a new tooled steam loco. I may well purchase one to run at my local club.
As they seem to be working through their older fleet, maybe we'll see a new tooled Crab, 2P, 94xx and King in future years.
Methinks, including me, there may be some won't live to see that. I hope the Crab is next, though ;)
Quote from: Ensign Elliott on July 17, 2024, 07:21:57 PMGreat news, and good to see a new tooled steam loco. I may well purchase one to run at my local club.
As they seem to be working through their older fleet, maybe we'll see a new tooled Crab, 2P, 94xx and King in future years.
A Crab and especially 2P would interest me more. Bear in mind it was not a 2P the 4P Compound Farish introduced c 1980. I have a Union Mills 2P which is regularly used in Cromarty. THat will certainly do me for a long while.
Years probably decades, ago the Railway Modeller carried an article describing how to turn a Farish Compound into a passable 2P. I did such a conversions then sold it on when I bought a used Union Mills version.
A partial answer to the liveries worn post BR;
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34617.msg402663#msg402663
I'm sure I've written a much fuller post about the changeover from LNER black to BR black to BR green, but I can't yet find it.
Martyn
Have no problem with an integral speaker in the tender (in every tender ) , which i dont anticipate ever using, other than the fact this is bound to up the price unnecessarily, and probably by more than the few quid you can recoup from surgically removing one...
Quote from: class8mikado on July 22, 2024, 02:56:48 PMHave no problem with an integral speaker in the tender (in every tender ) , which i dont anticipate ever using, other than the fact this is bound to up the price unnecessarily, and probably by more than the few quid you can recoup from surgically removing one...
I would expect it is done the way it is because it is actually more cost-effective to just have one production run with speaker fitted than split it into two smaller runs with and without speaker. The actual cost of a sugarcube speaker is minimal, retail including VAT just £7 from YouChoos with sound-enclosure fitted (by way of an example) so if bought in bulk as components I would suspect less than a couple of quid each for Bachmann or whoever.
Thanks Roy, thats fair and reasonable, however bells and whistles( and other sounds) tend to attract a premium beyond their physical cost because manufacturers need to make money.
Still at the end of the day we have seen some decent discounting when products dont shift in the numbers hoped for. The old dichotomy, we want new models to do well and sell well so we get to have more new models/ versus we want them cheaper so we can actually afford another one. :-\
Sugar cubes can be had for a couple of pounds if you shop about, especially as part of a multi pack. In bulk to a factory, their cost will be pence, especially as every model has them so there is no variation in the production line. A factory fitted speaker really doesn't add much to the price at all, but saves milling and messing about for those that do want sound. Makes sense in the the tender of a kettle since there's dead space in there beside the decoder socket too.
Jo
Quote from: class8mikado on July 22, 2024, 02:56:48 PMHave no problem with an integral speaker in the tender (in every tender ) , which i dont anticipate ever using, other than the fact this is bound to up the price unnecessarily, and probably by more than the few quid you can recoup from surgically removing one...
Whilst I tend to agree with you as I'll never have sound in my N gauge stuff, someone at base would have to make a decision how many to have with or without speakers. Should, just should, they run out of speaker fitted models then the sound lovers will be grizzling about having to fit their own. At least if I were to sell my model on said sound lover would be happy to have it
Years ago I heard it would be cheaper for car manufacturers to offer their cars with the top customisation as standard as opposed to offering all the variables so this logic would probably apply to model railways to an extent. I doubt they can offer sound chips in all (some people will still have high frequency track cleaners) so its not possible but certainly speakers is a viable standard
Quote from: eddief83 on July 23, 2024, 01:19:15 PMYears ago I heard it would be cheaper for car manufacturers to offer their cars with the top customisation as standard as opposed to offering all the variables so this logic would probably apply to model railways to an extent. I doubt they can offer sound chips in all (some people will still have high frequency track cleaners) so its not possible but certainly speakers is a viable standard
That'll be the next step for Bachmann and Dapol. Release RTR rolling stock at lower (ie DCC ready) prices with built in DCC control and sound, but have them locked and able to be unlocked for use by a monthly subscription.
Only semi-joking. It's definitely becoming a thing for cars and if it works there, other industries will take note.
Maerklin group - Minitrix for us N gaugers - have been shifting mostly factory fitted DCC sound models for years, unfortunately at premium prices. The same with their LGB locos.
I simply don't like or want sound for N, and don't appreciate having to pay a premium for functionality I don't want. As a consequence I've bought very little brand new Minitrix compared to other brands.
Quote from: zwilnik on July 23, 2024, 02:28:00 PMQuote from: eddief83 on July 23, 2024, 01:19:15 PMYears ago I heard it would be cheaper for car manufacturers to offer their cars with the top customisation as standard as opposed to offering all the variables so this logic would probably apply to model railways to an extent. I doubt they can offer sound chips in all (some people will still have high frequency track cleaners) so its not possible but certainly speakers is a viable standard
That'll be the next step for Bachmann and Dapol. Release RTR rolling stock at lower (ie DCC ready) prices with built in DCC control and sound, but have them locked and able to be unlocked for use by a monthly subscription.
Only semi-joking. It's definitely becoming a thing for cars and if it works there, other industries will take note.
I reckon you're fully joking, not semi. What next? Can't buy anything but can rent it on a monthly basis? :P
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 23, 2024, 02:55:34 PMI reckon you're fully joking, not semi. What next? Can't buy anything but can rent it on a monthly basis? :P
Yes. The youth don't own any music or films, or books, or software, or phones, or cars, the list goes on. The rich people have realised that they can milk more money from the non-rich people by subscriptions/leases.
I can understand some of the things that have changed. Think back to the 60's and remember how many companies were hiring televisions, and then video recorders. Some people will always want the latest thing, hence mobile phones, cars, etc have, for some, become almost fashion accessories. I gave up buying music a few years back and now share a family Spotify subscription, with (almost) anything I could ever want to hear available at the touch of a button, for a small monthly fee. You pays your money, you takes your choice......
Dave
Having watched the video again, I just had to check my version 1 models (3) to see how much the cab/tender movement was. Did not seem to swing apart anywhere near as much as this new version even through a reverse switch.
Also mentioned was the addition of traction tyres for owners to fit if required.
Unless it is tender powered, which did not come through on the video, I would not think the average buyer would want to fiddle with dismantling the conn rod bolts in order to fit tyres.
I have not been near my layout for 3 to 4 months due to gardening, domestic jobs and golf. The latter very badly!
I must say I was very thrilled to find that all locos "tested" performed very well.
I will have to ditch the golf and do more "testing", bound to get more enjoyment!
Maurice C.
Any chance the thread title could now be changed to reflect that it's a discussion about the forthcoming new V2, and not a discussion about an announcement?
;D
Quote from: mojo on July 23, 2024, 06:39:52 PMHaving watched the video again, I just had to check my version 1 models (3) to see how much the cab/tender movement was. Did not seem to swing apart anywhere near as much as this new version even through a reverse switch.
Also mentioned was the addition of traction tyres for owners to fit if required.
Unless it is tender powered, which did not come through on the video, I would not think the average buyer would want to fiddle with dismantling the conn rod bolts in order to fit tyres.
I have not been near my layout for 3 to 4 months due to gardening, domestic jobs and golf. The latter very badly!
I must say I was very thrilled to find that all locos "tested" performed very well.
I will have to ditch the golf and do more "testing", bound to get more enjoyment!
Maurice C.
The new V2 is most definitely loco drive, as to cab tender swing personally I can't think of a reason why they would be hugely different if they are both pretty accurate dimensionally as appears to be the case.
On the subject of traction tyres I have been advised that the locos will actually be delivered with the tyred wheelset fitted and the plain ones will be in the accessory pack.
Roy
Quote from: Richard Taylor on July 23, 2024, 09:52:28 PMAny chance the thread title could now be changed to reflect that it's a discussion about the forthcoming new V2, and not a discussion about an announcement?
;D
Quote from: Richard Taylor on July 23, 2024, 09:52:28 PMAny chance the thread title could now be changed to reflect that it's a discussion about the forthcoming new V2, and not a discussion about an announcement?
;D
Sorted :)
Quote from: Richard Taylor on July 23, 2024, 09:52:28 PMAny chance the thread title could now be changed to reflect that it's a discussion about the forthcoming new V2, and not a discussion about an announcement?
;D
Very many thanks!
BR green late crest 'Durham Light Infantry' pre ordered ;)
a few pics sorry not that good as tricky to take a picture through the glass... also it was in a goods shed at market bosworth so lighting not amazing...
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