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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: Le Night ferry on June 17, 2024, 01:43:22 PM

Title: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Le Night ferry on June 17, 2024, 01:43:22 PM
Any nice option for poole era farish steam's driving wheel?
Nbrass made front bogie, but not for driving wheel.
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Bad Raven on June 17, 2024, 07:17:00 PM
You have not stated what loco to indicate what size wheel you desire.

The 2mm Scale Association have a range of driving wheels with of course finescale flanges that can be gauged to "N".
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: chrism on June 17, 2024, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from: Bad Raven on June 17, 2024, 07:17:00 PMYou have not stated what loco to indicate what size wheel you desire.

The 2mm Scale Association have a range of driving wheels with of course finescale flanges that can be gauged to "N".


One snag with that is that the wheels themselves, as well as the flanges, are quite a bit narrower than N-gauge wheels.
With the back-to-back set correctly they should be usable on plain track but could be problematic on pointwork.

Another problem would be getting them to fit the loco - they would need the stub axles removing, then drilling to fit the Farish axles.


Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Platy767 on June 17, 2024, 11:15:27 PM
https://bachmann-spares.co.uk has complete bogies, ponies and some wheelsets.

https://bachmann-spares.co.uk/product/category/1350/duchess-coronation-front-bogie---black-372-180/f7218-123-01

https://bachmann-spares.co.uk/product/category/1350/duchess-coronation-bogie-pony-axle---black-372-180/f7218-117-01

Mark

Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Platy767 on June 18, 2024, 05:02:55 AM
Back in the old days the N Gauge Society had a range of component parts, including various wheels.

These are MBM Wheels I picked up from the society about 30 years ago.

Mark



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/142/6709-180624045928.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=142650)
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Roy L S on June 18, 2024, 05:51:24 AM
Quote from: Bad Raven on June 17, 2024, 07:17:00 PMYou have not stated what loco to indicate what size wheel you desire.

The 2mm Scale Association have a range of driving wheels with of course finescale flanges that can be gauged to "N".

The 2mm Scale Association wheel design is much finer than N and both in terms of not just flange but tread and profile, I was advised when I asked that even if gauged appropriately they aren't suitable to use for N with its much coarser standards.
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: chrism on June 18, 2024, 06:48:03 AM
Quote from: Roy L S on June 18, 2024, 05:51:24 AM
Quote from: Bad Raven on June 17, 2024, 07:17:00 PMYou have not stated what loco to indicate what size wheel you desire.

The 2mm Scale Association have a range of driving wheels with of course finescale flanges that can be gauged to "N".

The 2mm Scale Association wheel design is much finer than N and both in terms of not just flange but tread and profile, I was advised when I asked that even if gauged appropriately they aren't suitable to use for N with its much coarser standards.

Indeed. As I said above, they could be used on plain track but pointwork will be problematic - they could drop into (or even jam in) the flangeways or, if they don't, might not use the check rails properly to guide the opposite wheel through the crossing nose.

Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Le Night ferry on June 18, 2024, 09:52:54 AM
I seriously though to replace farish's wheels to Dapol Britannia's one...
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Le Night ferry on June 18, 2024, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: Platy767 on June 18, 2024, 05:02:55 AMBack in the old days the N Gauge Society had a range of component parts, including various wheels.

These are MBM Wheels I picked up from the society about 30 years ago.

Mark




(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/142/6709-180624045928.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=142650)

Is it for driving wheel, not for bogie?
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Le Night ferry on June 18, 2024, 09:56:51 AM
Inhave old farish's King, Rebuilt MN, and duchess(for bhe's proncess royal)
British n scale is 1/148 and 2mm finescale is 1/152. Dose it have many difference?
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Roy L S on June 18, 2024, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on June 18, 2024, 09:56:51 AMInhave old farish's King, Rebuilt MN, and duchess(for bhe's proncess royal)
British n scale is 1/148 and 2mm finescale is 1/152. Dose it have many difference?

2mm Finescale is scaled at 1:152 and the track gauge is 9.42mm whereas British N is 1:148 with a track gauge of 9mm. Apart from those differences 2mm finescale track has Code40 rail section and much finer flangeways through point check-rails which N wheels cannot get through.

Some people do ignore the small difference between 1:148 and 1:152 and use N Gauge models - in particular the 2mm Scale Association provides "drop in" wheelsets for some diesels making for an easier start in 2mm.

Roy
Title: Re: Old Farish's small wheel replacement
Post by: Platy767 on June 18, 2024, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on June 18, 2024, 09:54:09 AMIs it for driving wheel, not for bogie?

No. These are bogie wheels. I have about 20 of them. They are about 6mm diameter.
My understanding was they were supplied by the late Mike Bryant, hence MBM, to the N Gauge Society. I have some of his wagon wheels with 8 spokes on axles for PECO and Farish wagons, but I use them on my kits.

I purchased sufficient bogie wheels to do kits for 2-6-4T, 4-6-2T, 4-4-0 and 0-6-4 locos.
Mark