When I was looking for a mini Hi-Fi last year (for Christmas) some YouTube reviews of different makes and models referred to the speakers "settling in" or "burning in" before their true sound quality could be determined. Now I'm looking for a set of (over-ear) headphones and again several reviews talk about devices "settling down" with time to appreciate the sound quality.
Is this an actual thing that happens with all devices, is it something that us ordinary listeners will not notice; or is it a myth that encourages debate amongst experts ?
If it actually happens I wonder about the value of listening to anything in the shop before choosing which model to buy !
Please help educate me !
I have never heard of this before! In you shoes I would take a cynical view of this claim unless I could find some, what I considered to be unbiased, evidence. My son-in-law is a sound engineer, so I will ask him his opinion as I'm now curious.
Cheers
I'm going with the myth theory.
A freshly made speaker will have a tight suspension, but before it leaves the factory, it will be tested and the suspension will have settled in 2 or 3 seconds.
In my youth I could hear getting on for 20khz. Nowadays, I'm lucky if the tinnitus allows me to hear 10khz. I used to have expensive Quad hifi, but now I use a Sony compact system.
Like any component with moving parts things need to settle in. I can imagine the diaphragm and the glue which secures it will stretch and soften a tiny amount at first. Demo speakers and headphones in a shop have probably been through such "running-in" :)
Whether anyone really can tell the difference I don't know - I think a lot of it is audiophiles trying to justify themselves and their supposed expertise/opinion.
You will find the same sorts of conversations about wines, whiskies, tobacco, cheese, art, probably TVs as well. Are there differences/ improvements? Yes. Can most people appreciate them? No. Does it matter? No. Do you appreciate a £30 wine more than a £10 wine enough to justify the expense? The same applies to high end music systems.
Hi-fi dealers will even sell you a special CD or vinyl disc to run-in your speakers.
Don't know if there is any music on these or just "sounds" ranging from low to high frequency.
I think burn in happens both ways.
The equipment settles in and the listener get accustomed to the sound. :D
Mark
@BobB If you are looking for a couple of mid-fi recommendations (I'm no audiophile), I can suggest these 2 as good value examples in their class.
AKG K371 - A sealed back over the ear with quite good bass. This pair was $240 Australian
Sennheiser HD560S An open back design with fair bass and a IMO a balanced sound. These were $279 Australian.
I've been a Sennheiser user since the '70s and I keep coming back to them after trying others such as Grado, Shure and Beyer.
A couple of reviews:
AKG K371 https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/akg-k371-review-closed-back-headphone.19657/
Sennheiser HD560S https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/sennheiser-hd560s-review-headphone.29603/
I haven't even tried anything more higher priced than these for many years.
PS. I do use a DAC/headphone amp, a Topping DX3Pro+ with optical from the disc player and usb from the PC.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx3-pro-review-dac-headphone-amp.27148/
Hope you find what you are happy with.
Cheers,
Mark
Well you did ask! ;)
I'm very much 'old school' with my audio kit.
I'm still using a Pioneer 6CD stack system bought in 1988. I added surround sound speakers and have plumbed my TV through them as well. It never gets played over 1/3rd of it's volume capability as I reckon it would blow the double glazed windows out of my wee bungalow. Headphone wise I am super happy with my Bose noise-cancelling ones which provide a superb sound
As per my previous post, I asked the question. It seems this is a known thing as other posts have indicated. It takes a while for the suspension of the speakers to settle in; also as note, it also takes a while for the listener to get used to the sound of the new speakers. This also applies to high quality headphones and possibly ear buds allegedly, but me being a cynic it might just be sales speak!
If you like the sound what does it matter? Years back when I was really 'into' HiFi shops would have a listening room, but I considered this unrealistic as it was filled with many speakers not at all like a home environment.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers
Thank you all the information, confirming my doubts, and finally the engineering logic that applies ! I'm sure I'll be happy with the devices when they finally arrive. When all said and done, on-line purchasing won the day (based on many reviews and comparisons) because the prices were about half of that in the local physical shops. If I detect a change after some time I'll let you all know !
Quote from: Firstone18 on May 17, 2024, 12:05:13 PMYears back when I was really 'into' HiFi shops would have a listening room, but I considered this unrealistic as it was filled with many speakers not at all like a home environment.
When I bought my Mission 752 speakers, back in the late '90s, the shop's listening room was a room, about the size of a typical living room, with a settee, a hi-fi rack and the two speakers that I was listening to at the time.
Quote from: stevewalker on May 18, 2024, 11:52:16 PMQuote from: Firstone18 on May 17, 2024, 12:05:13 PMYears back when I was really 'into' HiFi shops would have a listening room, but I considered this unrealistic as it was filled with many speakers not at all like a home environment.
When I bought my Mission 752 speakers, back in the late '90s, the shop's listening room was a room, about the size of a typical living room, with a settee, a hi-fi rack and the two speakers that I was listening to at the time.
Your experience was what I feel should be the normal when trying out speakers. The seller should be prepared to create an environment as close as possible to a 'normal' living room for test listening; they should also be prepared to change speakers over by removing one set and bringing in another.
My ears are now not up to hearing above about 10kHz and I suffer tinnitus in one ear so I'm just happy to hear music!
Cheers
Hey, I'd be happy listening to Hendrix and Clapton on a little pocket tranny, which is what I used to do back then anyway.
Hey Joe....
Yes George ?
Apparently the great record producers of the 60s (like Phil Spector) mixed their records so that they would sound good on tinny transistors.