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Title: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on January 27, 2024, 11:56:39 PM
Quite surprised that there's no British 4-4-2s in n gauge.
We can make it by modifying 4-6-0s or Pacific, but there's no commercial models.
I remember that someone make GNR 251 based on Dapol's chassis.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: JanW on January 28, 2024, 06:37:48 AM
It was built by one of the forum members. Description is under the video:

https://youtu.be/EYerYhKUxjc?si=xC_VfNIShp2p492H
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AM
 I was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:06:26 PM
Quote from: JanW on January 28, 2024, 06:37:48 AMIt was built by one of the forum members. Description is under the video:

https://youtu.be/EYerYhKUxjc?si=xC_VfNIShp2p492H

Ah, he sells Payriot class pn shapeways.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AMI was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
GWR La France
Is it n gauge?
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Portpatrick on January 28, 2024, 03:41:40 PM
I have no personal need for Atlantics.  I guess possible donor chassis for the more adventurous could be the current Dapol Schools class ( if you are prepared to mangle such a pricey item).  Or a Farish Compound - easy enough to cut away the outside cylinders if you don't need them.  The screw for the tender link could instead carry the rear bogie.  I have a reputation gained over a number of years at my club for imaginative butchering.  But for my North of Scotland layout, Atlantics are not on my agenda.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AMI was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
GWR La France
Is it n gauge?

Yes. It was on a modified Farish Black 5 chassis. It was painted black, in its unrebuilt form, complete with lining. Someone had put a lot of effort into it.

Although it would have been too heavy in reality, I think it would have looked quite nice running on a branchline or secondary route.

Rob.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: GlenEglise on January 28, 2024, 08:18:37 PM
Where predominantly did "Atlantics" run?

GE
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: gc4946 on January 28, 2024, 09:02:51 PM
North British Rly, North Eastern Rly, Lancashire & Yorkshire Rly, Great Northern Rly, Great Central Rly, GWR, London, Brighton & South Coast Rly.
Ex-LBSCR 32424 Beachy Head was the last Atlantic in service on British Railways, withdrawn and scrapped in 1958. The Bluebell are recreating a replica.
Two Great Northern examples survive in the National Collection and the Great Western Society's recreation of Saint 2999 Lady of Legend includes provision for it to be a 4-4-2.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Alcazar on January 30, 2024, 05:50:45 PM
@Stevie DC built a LNER C1 some time ago. I don't know whether it was described here. If not you can view it and other builds here: https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11916&hilit=Atso&start=150 (https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11916&hilit=Atso&start=150)

Peter
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on February 04, 2024, 11:48:37 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AMI was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
GWR La France
Is it n gauge?

Yes. It was on a modified Farish Black 5 chassis. It was painted black, in its unrebuilt form, complete with lining. Someone had put a lot of effort into it.

Although it would have been too heavy in reality, I think it would have looked quite nice running on a branchline or secondary route.

Rob.
Do younhave its photo?
I have no idea how Grafar's black 5 became La France
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on February 04, 2024, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Alcazar on January 30, 2024, 05:50:45 PM@Stevie DC built a LNER C1 some time ago. I don't know whether it was described here. If not you can view it and other builds here: https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11916&hilit=Atso&start=150 (https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11916&hilit=Atso&start=150)

Peter
Yes That's what I see
Sadley, he does not sells this locomotive on shapeways.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on February 05, 2024, 12:00:57 AM
In fact, I purchased lots of Peco's Jubilee for 4-4-2s(GNRms and Beechey heads)
If possible, I could make Frenche's Nord 2.670
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Jollybob on February 12, 2024, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on February 04, 2024, 11:48:37 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AMI was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
GWR La France
Is it n gauge?

Yes. It was on a modified Farish Black 5 chassis. It was painted black, in its unrebuilt form, complete with lining. Someone had put a lot of effort into it.

Although it would have been too heavy in reality, I think it would have looked quite nice running on a branchline or secondary route.

Rob.
Do younhave its photo?
I have no idea how Grafar's black 5 became La France

Found it!

Sorry for the wait, I had to find the hardrive, that my wife moved, in a completely different place, then I had to go through all the files.... You get the idea.  :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/139/4601-120224135213.jpeg)

Poor photo I am afraid, Sorry about that.

Rob.
Title: Re: N gauge Atlantics
Post by: Le Night ferry on February 12, 2024, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on February 12, 2024, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on February 04, 2024, 11:48:37 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: Le Night ferry on January 28, 2024, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on January 28, 2024, 09:40:40 AMI was talking to my friend about this yesterday, I once had a GWR De Glen 4-4-2 that I sold online and wished that I hadn't. The only issue on was the pickups needed tweaking.

But agreed, a 4-4-2 is one of those what I describe to myself as missing link locomotives.
When we run polls, I seem to notice that we either focus on little steam locomotives or massive modern mainline ones, but it seems that the secondary like 4-4-2s, 4-4-0s or 2-4-0s ones get overlooked.

Rob.
GWR La France
Is it n gauge?

Yes. It was on a modified Farish Black 5 chassis. It was painted black, in its unrebuilt form, complete with lining. Someone had put a lot of effort into it.

Although it would have been too heavy in reality, I think it would have looked quite nice running on a branchline or secondary route.

Rob.
Do younhave its photo?
I have no idea how Grafar's black 5 became La France

Found it!

Sorry for the wait, I had to find the hardrive, that my wife moved, in a completely different place, then I had to go through all the files.... You get the idea.  :D

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/139/4601-120224135213.jpeg)

Poor photo I am afraid, Sorry about that.

Rob.
Thanks for photo!
It may be hard to modfy its cylinder and valve gear.