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Title: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: icairns on August 02, 2023, 08:50:00 PM
I am working on a little research project and am interested in finding prototype photos (NOT MODEL PHOTOS) of the following PO wagons: 

1.    South Leicester (Coalville)
2.    Wrights (Colchester)
3.    A.G. Bailey (Ashford, Kent)
4.    G.H.- G. Hinks Ltd. (Darlington)
5.    F. Carrick & Co. Ltd. (Newcastle upon Tyne)
6.    Frank Lomas (Bakewell, Derbyshire)
7.    J.R. Wood & Co. Ltd. (Kings Cross, London)
8.    Dunlops (Reading)
9.    Gray Brothers (London)
10.   Saxa Salt.  (I have the photo of a preserved Saxa Salt wagon from the Scottish Railway Preservation Society but am looking for others).
 
I am looking for links to online photos where possible, but references to book titles containing prototype photos of the above would also be welcomed.

I am sure I have seen a photo of a prototype South Leicester PO wagon in the past but recent efforts to find it have failed.  Likewise for the other wagons listed above.
 
Thanks in advance.

Ian
Title: Re: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 02, 2023, 09:10:59 PM
Ian

Will these kind people help ?https://www.coalvilleheritage.org.uk/catalogue_item/south-leicester-colliery-wagon-attached-to-a-midland-railway-saddle-tank-engine


http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/wsearch.asp


Wonder if any historical society or books may throw up offerings

https://lightmoor.co.uk/category.php?section=CatPrivateOwner

https://hmrs.org.uk/stewards/po_wagons_pre_1948








Title: Re: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: gc4946 on August 02, 2023, 09:48:42 PM
I don't own any of his books, but Keith Turton's photographic works on private owner wagons by Lightmoor Press, titled "Private owner wagons" has reached its 15th collection volume https://lightmoor.co.uk/books/private-owner-wagons-a-fifteenth-collection/L8535
Title: Re: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: PennineWagons on August 02, 2023, 09:50:56 PM
AG Bailey : https://hmrs.org.uk/-aax022--bailey-a-g--ashford-kent--12t-7-plank---390--op--r3l-built-by-derbyshire-carriage---wagon-co--ltd.html

Saxa Salt : https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs.html?private_owner=16230&subject=12023

Hope these help.
PW
Title: Re: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: icairns on August 07, 2023, 07:58:13 PM
Thanks to everyone that replied.  My Homer Simpson "Doh!" moment was when I realized that I had forgotten to check the HMRS website.  Thanks to @crewearpley40 and @PennineWagons for reminding me to look at this resource and I found several more of the PO wagons I was looking for.  I have ordered digital images of these wagons from HRMS and have already received most of them.

The current list of PO wagons that I am looking for is summarized below.

BTW, when I said I was looking for book titles I really meant I am looking for books that have photos of the wagons I am looking for.  As there must be dozens of books about PO wagons, I was really looking for confirmed photos of the wagons I am researching and then I would go and buy that particular book. 

Thanks again for to everyone that took the time to respond to my original post.  The information was very helpful.

Ian


1.   South Leicester (Coalville)
https://hmrs.org.uk/aax905-south-leicester-12t-7-plank-side-door-no-373-op-1937-f3r-livery-red-white-letters-black-shaded-g.html

2.   Wrights (Colchester)
https://hmrs.org.uk/aax912-wrights-colchester-12t-7-plank-side-door-op-1936-livery-red-white-letters-shaded-black-grc-wcl.html

3.   A.G. Bailey (Ashford, Kent)
https://hmrs.org.uk/-aax022--bailey-a-g--ashford-kent--12t-7-plank---390--op--r3l-built-by-derbyshire-carriage---wagon-co--ltd.html

4.   G.H.- G. Hinks Ltd. (Darlington)
Still looking. 

5.   F. Carrick & Co. Ltd. (Newcastle upon Tyne)
https://hmrs.org.uk/-abp925--carrick-f--newcastle--12t-7-plank-coke--131--op--2-raves-f3r.html

6.   Frank Lomas (Bakewell, Derbyshire)
Still looking. 

7.   J.R. Wood & Co. Ltd. (Kings Cross, London)
https://hmrs.org.uk/aax413-wood-j-r-kings-cross-12t-7-plank-1410-op-1930-f3r-built-derbyshire-carriage-wagon-co-ltd-re.html

8.   Dunlops (Reading)
Still looking.

9.   Gray Brothers (London)
Still looking. 

10.   Saxa Salt
https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs.html?private_owner=16230&subject=12023

http://www.srps.org.uk/related/sre.htm
Title: Re: Research Project - Prototype PO Wagon Photos
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 08, 2023, 01:08:06 PM
good luck ian with this project. chris