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Title: Carriage shed
Post by: Intercity on March 01, 2023, 11:40:00 PM
I have been looking around and need some help, I am looking for a 4 or 5 road carriage shed, length wise it would be 7 or 8 coaches to hold a pair of EMUs (350, 321, 319) and possibly and HST or West Coast set (sticking out the end!).

Is there anything that is available to buy or is this a scratch build project? It would be based on the carriage shed at Victoria or Ramsgate as I like the look.

Thanks for any help

IC
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: martyn on March 02, 2023, 08:16:00 AM
The carriage shed on James St is 8 coaches long. It is made from now rather elderly continental kits. There are photos on the James St  thread or website.

I'm not sure of the make, but @Southerngooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3680) should be able to help.

Martyn
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 02, 2023, 08:24:25 AM
Hi ratio kit 231 maybe too early

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fagrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk%2Fimage%2Fcache%2Fcatalog%2FBachmann%2F151021%2FIMG_0421-600x800.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fagrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk%2Fgraham-farish-buildings%3Fproduct_id%3D8297&tbnid=2U41XG8xcn_wXM&vet=1&docid=hUtr2DH9sfBvnM&w=600&h=800&itg=1&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fagrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk%2Fimage%2Fcache%2Fcatalog%2FBachmann%2F151021%2FIMG_0421-600x800.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fagrmodelrailwaystore.co.uk%2Fgraham-farish-buildings%3Fproduct_id%3D8297&tbnid=2U41XG8xcn_wXM&vet=1&docid=hUtr2DH9sfBvnM&w=600&h=800&itg=1&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)


There is of course
https://www.timetunnelmodels.com/live/catalog/graham-farish-0035-wooden-carriage-shed-gauge-scenecraft-painted-building-p-61593.html (https://www.timetunnelmodels.com/live/catalog/graham-farish-0035-wooden-carriage-shed-gauge-scenecraft-painted-building-p-61593.html)


https://www.n-scenic.co.uk/products/n-gauge-modern-train-shed (https://www.n-scenic.co.uk/products/n-gauge-modern-train-shed)
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Southerngooner on March 02, 2023, 08:36:37 AM
The carriage shed on JS was originally to be used on an earlier South London layout that never got very far, and was built from four Heljan repair shed kits (I think). I now need to build another one, and having seen what is out there, I think I need to build one from scratch if I want to get the "Southern carriage shed" look. The excellent Evergreen corrugated styrene sheet should be good for the bulk of the exterior. I think it would need a solid inner layout to make it stable over its length (about 1.2m).

Dave
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Steven B on March 02, 2023, 08:49:28 AM
Ramsgate: https://flic.kr/p/qe4tYu

Looks like it would be quite simple to make from scratch - using Evergreen styrene sheet as Dave (Southerngooner) mentioned above.

If you're looking for a kit, the the two road Peco Manyways train/loco depot/engine shed (NB-80) would be where I'd start.

Steven B
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 02, 2023, 08:55:10 AM
I agree that was the other option using peco products


Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Bob Tidbury on March 02, 2023, 09:06:54 AM
Intercity .
Weston Models would make one for you ,he can build any thing in any gauge ,he used to have a trade stand at exhibitions down South but as I am unable to get to exhibitions now I dont know if he is still doing shows and I cant find his details .
But if you Email or phone Ray of B H E I am sure he has Geofs details .
Dont expect an imediate answere as Ray is still very ill ..
Email bhengauge@googlemail.com
Or Phone 01923 672809
Just looked on Ebay Have a look  at item  185675283649  That looks like the same models that I was talking about contact details are on the advert .
Bob
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 02, 2023, 09:41:16 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185558309793?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749367&toolid=20006&customid=GB_1_185558309793.146402343561~1873891030741-g_CjwKCAiAr4GgBhBFEiwAgwORrTFPsyEdvL6xvl7z23NKoI1Jwk3g4iJqQc-Fc8cHrvWVpVcI_srkyxoC9P0QAvD_BwE (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185558309793?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749367&toolid=20006&customid=GB_1_185558309793.146402343561~1873891030741-g_CjwKCAiAr4GgBhBFEiwAgwORrTFPsyEdvL6xvl7z23NKoI1Jwk3g4iJqQc-Fc8cHrvWVpVcI_srkyxoC9P0QAvD_BwE)


Is what Bob maybe suggesting @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) is that Geoff in Swindon?


Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Southerngooner on March 02, 2023, 09:45:37 AM
At just under £30 that's not a bad price for something hand built. I suspect a large carriage shed would be more like £50-£75 if you scale up the size, plus it depends on the amount of detail you want too.

I don't think it would be a difficult scratchbuild as it's mainly plain sides, open end, plain end and a roof with roof lights. If you want to go the whole hog you can add roof handrails, down pipes, etc. but it's a good start for scratch building I think. And a lot cheaper......

Dave
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Intercity on March 02, 2023, 12:11:34 PM
Thanks for all the replies, you have all been super helpful and given me a lot of options to explore
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: Jack on March 02, 2023, 12:20:56 PM
I've seen a few modern, and impressive,  depot sheds made up of several of these end to end and side by side.

https://peco-uk.com/products/manyways-train-shed-locomotive-depot-engine-shed (https://peco-uk.com/products/manyways-train-shed-locomotive-depot-engine-shed)

Scroll down a little  :)
Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: LASteve on March 02, 2023, 06:51:19 PM
I know that Everard Junction is HO, but he scratch-built a carriage shed which looks mighty impressive (but probably over-engineered as far as the framework is concerned). You might get some ideas from that.

There are three parts to the video, here's the link to Part 1 - the other two parts cover adding walls, roof and other details



Title: Re: Carriage shed
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 02, 2023, 07:01:54 PM
Part 15
to add extra thoughts