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Title: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Tank on January 31, 2023, 02:58:12 PM
"Tomorrow we shall be revealing our next British Railway Announcements, the first for 2023. All the new items will be unveiled in a video which premieres on YouTube at 9.30am.

You can watch along via the following link: https://youtu.be/xsTvGMJs9mE and I shall be issuing a formal press release and images as usual to you tomorrow."
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Southerngooner on February 01, 2023, 10:02:16 AM
Slightly underwhelming as expected, although the re-release of the Sealions is good news. Lots of fuss about different running numbers, which is getting a bit silly as you can't tell the difference at normal viewing distances......

Dave
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: nobby on February 01, 2023, 10:03:21 AM
 no coaches again , seacows are a nice addition though
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: NGS-PO on February 01, 2023, 10:16:23 AM
The Walruses (Walri?) are a very welcome model, I'll happily take a few of them.

As are the Bogie Bolsters, although for them I'll wait until the harder to shift livery is discounted further (GW?) and repaint into my chosen livery perhaps.

Best

Scott.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: ngaugeSAM on February 01, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
Not a lot to get excited for modern image, nice to get the freightliner green to run with the new orange livery...
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Richard Taylor on February 01, 2023, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: ngaugeMKC on February 01, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
Not a lot to get excited for modern image anyone...

As they say, FTFY.

Scenecraft buildings must sell, otherwise they wouldn't keep releasing them, but who on earth buys those overpriced misbegotten lumps of badly-moulded junk with their wobbly windows and over scale detailing?!  The "grounded carriage" is particularly taking the mickey:  you could ground a Dapol or old Farish body with a wash of dirty thinners for significantly less money and have an underframe/pair of bogies left over to use under another vehicle!

Tank wagons are nice - will have a few of the ICI ones.  But otherwise - yawn.  And the next quarter's announcement will be the one affected by the Chinese New Year shutdown, so that'll be a thin one.

Beginning to feel that modelling in N is like being a Millwall supporter. ("Everyone hates us, we don't care." :-))

RichardT
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: martyn on February 01, 2023, 11:06:53 AM
At least there wasn't a Twin or toffee apple...  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

As for two running numbers, quite a few of the wagons chosen would be in rakes of much more than two anyway, and as Southerngooner said, at normal distances, who can tell what it is anyway?

Next time........

Martyn
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Portpatrick on February 01, 2023, 12:05:23 PM
Another underwhelming set of releases.  I await the next release of 73XXX 5MTs - I have a weathered one on order from TMC.  Plenty of wagons, and also coaches. 
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Brian-1c on February 01, 2023, 12:12:52 PM
I quite like the idea of different running numbers, as Revolution and Rapido have also done, with great diligence. Whilst I cannot read the numbers either and have stopped bothering about duplicate numbers in my stock, I still will choose the different numbers when I can, so I appreciate the effort, at least.

But, if there are four running numbers available, I'll still buy 2 or 3, or 4 of each to make up a train, without really minding that I now have mutliples of the same running number. As above, I can't see which are the duplicates anyway. It makes me smile at my own daft actions in this. Don't even mention my maroon Mk1s with M, E, W and Sc prefixes. I'm glad I can't see that once they are on the track.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: N-Gauge-US on February 01, 2023, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: ngaugeMKC on February 01, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
Not a lot to get excited for modern image, nice to get the freightliner green to run with the new orange livery...
Warning! Grumble alert:
If there isn't a lot to get excited about for modern image, there is literally nothing that is Grouping or Pre-Grouping. Not one single steam locomotive, no wagon that wasn't produced by BR, and, as pointed out already, no coaches. Very disappointing. People love to complain about Dapol and glorify Farish locos, but I don't have any more problems with Dapol locos than Farish, the detailing is usually better, and the availability and selection Dapol offers is staggering by comparison. While neither has exactly been cranking out new classes of loco recently, at least Dapol provides a large variety of liveries and keeps them in stock with stockists, which Farish seems unable or unwilling to do.
Grumble over. 😖
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
Phew! What saved, IMHO, 28 minutes of dross was the announcement of the new brandings. Let's face it, the old ones were looking somewhat 'tired'
(For pity's sake, who really gives a  :censored: about the branding ::))
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
Please to see Sealions and Walruses (although the cost is getting a bit prohibitive) but otherwise underwhelmed.
I agree with other posters both here and 'on the socials' that another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

I can't imagine how the steam boys must be feeling. Talk about being passed over.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: pinball on February 01, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
YGH Sealion was a welcome surprise. Who saw that one coming?! I'm glad that they're doing another run on what was rumoured as a model never to be released again. Given that there were hundreds in civil engineers yellow/grey and only a handful in Loadhaul, Transrail and Mainline, I expect the Dutch livery to be very popular.

The rest was pretty underwhelming, again.

No coaches
No update on sound fitted class 47
No update on class 158
No additional class 60 liveries
No update on class 69
No sound fitted class 37
No update on HAA (re-release announced in 2019)
No re-tooled Poole era rolling stock.
No new tooled rolling stock. Again.

2023 Chinese New Year. Year of the sloth.

Tim

Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2023, 01:57:02 PM
No plain green Warship 371-606
No Hawksworth BG blue 374-587

I still think it a huge shame Farish never beat Dapol to the 9F, although the later Dapol one is much improved over the old one. :hmmm:
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: eddief83 on February 01, 2023, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
YGH Sealion was a welcome surprise. Who saw that one coming?! I'm glad that they're doing another run on what was rumoured as a model never to be released again. Given that there were hundreds in civil engineers yellow/grey and only a handful in Loadhaul, Transrail and Mainline, I expect the Dutch livery to be very popular.

The rest was pretty underwhelming, again.

No coaches
No update on sound fitted class 47
No update on class 158
No additional class 60 liveries
No update on class 69
No sound fitted class 37
No update on HAA (re-release announced in 2019)
No re-tooled Poole era rolling stock.
No new tooled rolling stock. Again.

2023 Chinese New Year. Year of the sloth.

Tim

These videos are for "new" announcements, IE stuff not in the catalogue before. So 47's, 158's and 69 will not be covered. These will be in the collectors club magazine with updates on progress.

All I can say is the 47 is not sound now - or at least they said they were dropping it - but this new system maybe they will do it after all. I can certainly imagine a few more liveries when we reach their quarter
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

The Walruses are also 3x the price I paid for my first rake of 12 in Departmental Olive green. I probably won't get more than a couple or three, to go with my black Dogfish.

Must say the Farish prices make Dapol, Peco, Revolution and Rapido look positively good value these days.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: RapierPower on February 01, 2023, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

But the STONE wagons include a load don't they, I guess the factory don't just throw that in for the same price as the others so I'd expect to pay more for something with such an extra included
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: RapierPower on February 01, 2023, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
I must build my 18 Peco tippler kits and add the Railtec transfers I bought a few years ago, to do a rake of STONE tipplers. I spent £120 on that investment in my gloat box, and if I were to ditch them and buy these new Farish ones, that would come to £351 at a 15% discount - so 1/3rd the price for the kits.

I also find it annoying that Farish think that for the STONE wagons they can charge another £2 more than the exact same wagon in other liveries. Typical. You don't see that happening from any other manufacturer.

But the STONE wagons include a load don't they, I guess the factory don't just throw that in for the same price as the others so I'd expect to pay more for something with such an extra included
A little plastic moulding doesn't cost £2 per wagon to produce, and I'd rather have real stone, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 01, 2023, 05:56:09 PM
Oh dear, I seem to have pre-ordered a handful of black Walruses from TMC. They offer free postage (over £100) whereas Rails only offer free postage on Locos.

Bob
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 01, 2023, 06:23:08 PM
Rumours reached my ears at TINGS that the Sealion / cow / walrus was back on the cards. As did the projected price.

It's got to be a good thing overall, showing intent to continue in the scale.

I think the Loadhaul ones look rather nice, but believe they were quite scarce in reality so probably one for me at most.

Interesting to note the National Power hoppers getting another run, maybe a reaction imminent Class 59s? I have been led to believe they were (especially the DB red) slow sellers.

I feel for steam modellers, and think the continued lack of coaches is rather silly.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Hailstone on February 01, 2023, 10:37:18 PM
Once again, I am totally underwhelmed.NO new Steam loco (and I don't mean re engineered for sound), NO Thompson coaches in maroon or any others for that matter, the only possible attack on my wallet will be the Seacows in black - after telling us that they wouldn't be doing them any more! did someone in Barwell actually listen to us regarding them? I doubt it.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: bluedepot on February 02, 2023, 09:38:26 AM
not very exciting announcements really...

i like seacows but not paying 51 pounds each for them

tim
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: nobby on February 01, 2023, 10:03:21 AM
no coaches again

Quote from: N-Gauge-US on February 01, 2023, 12:27:06 PM
and, as pointed out already, no coaches.

Quote from: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

Quote from: pinball on February 01, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Foxhound on February 01, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
another run of Mk1s and Mk2s, particularly in blue & grey, would be very welcome.

My thoughts exactly!

Quote from: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
No coaches

Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 01, 2023, 06:23:08 PM
I think the continued lack of coaches is rather silly. (paraphrased)

Am I correct in thinking if BachFar still have the tooling and they're in decent nick that this could be easy money for them? Mind you, I guess some would then moan about the cost (and, yes, that includes me)
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Portpatrick on February 02, 2023, 10:33:38 AM
With coaches I have all the Mk1s,  LMS Pd3s and NPCVs I want.  But I still have a short rake of the very early Farish corridor coaches.  Now running on modern wheels.  SomeLMS Pd 1 and 2 would be nice for an upgrade.  But no doubt far too specialist for large scale production.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 02, 2023, 10:39:16 AM
But if nobody is making coaches, who is going to start off in N?
Most people joining the hobby want a loco, coaches and wagons, and an oval of track.
Is this some ploy to get the train sets that Farish have made sold as train sets rather than split up?

Good job Dapol make some coaches, I say.

Bob
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Steven B on February 02, 2023, 10:57:09 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 02, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
Am I correct in thinking if BachFar still have the tooling and they're in decent nick that this could be easy money for them? Mind you, I guess some would then moan about the cost (and, yes, that includes me)

The problem Bachmann UK have is limited factory capacity. As well as issues around Covid, they're fighting Bachmann US for production slots in the Kader Industries factory.

Short runs for UK N Gauge models become harder to justify if the factory's not running at full capacity - if you managed the factory would you prefer to spend two days setting up for a production run of 1000 or 5000?

Thomas the Tank engine is also to blame. Bachmann are releasing Toby, Gordon and Emily as N Gauge models this year - each of which will probably outsell all the locos produced under the Farish brand this year.

Steven B.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Yet_Another on February 02, 2023, 01:03:55 PM
That's brilliant. A bunch of Thomas stuff in N that probably says 'Not suitable for children under 15' on the box.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Thorpe Parva on February 02, 2023, 02:25:34 PM
I'll probably purchase both Whales, both Sand Tipplers & possibly a Bogie Bolster. All are listed as May/June deliveries on the Bachmann website so time to save up.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 02, 2023, 03:26:22 PM
Regarding the Bogie C bolster wagons, I bought 5 x 373-926 from the last run so won't be buying new. OK, mine all have the same running number but, as pointed out, who can see them at normal viewing distance?
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: westie7 on February 02, 2023, 11:45:08 PM
Quote from: Aire Valley on February 01, 2023, 01:44:43 PM

The rest was pretty underwhelming, again.

No coaches

No re-tooled Poole era rolling stock.
No new tooled rolling stock. Again.


With Rapido tooling a 20'9 AB chassis, I think that killed any chance of certain Poole retools. I did wonder if the V PCA might get a rework especially as at one point there were heaps getting flogged on eBay. Farish might be in danger of getting left behind.

As for the coaches situation, I just shake my head

Mark
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Steven B on February 03, 2023, 09:27:52 AM
Farish are more than capable of producing a 20' 9" chassis, as seen with their OBA, OCA and SPA. However, not all 20' 9" chassis are the same - what works under an open wouldn't be correct for a van. The OCA chassis could go under an OTA though.


Rapido have hinted to me that they may consider one or more of the VAA, VBA, VDA if the OAA does well. I had expected that Sonic or Revolution would follow on from the VEA with the VDA - both were commonly found together in MoD trains.

Like westie7/Mark above, I'm surprised the V tank PCA hasn't been re-done by someone although Farish and Realtrack had both made later types. The HEA is another low hanging fruit.

That said, I'm probably more surprised that the LMS Crab and 2P haven't been remade.

Personally I think that the Farish N Gauge range got knocked down the Bachmann pecking order when Collin Albright and Dennis Lovett left the company.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Bachmann UK's planning meetings, particularly the one where they discussed the latch batch of Mk2a and failed to make a Regional Railways Mk2a or Blue/grey TSO. Madness!

Steven B.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Southerngooner on February 03, 2023, 09:41:13 AM
I think I'm right in saying that Bachmann had full page ads in the monthly magazines recently looking for a designer for N Gauge. I think that is more likely to be the issue, and until they fill that post and the newbie gets some designing done there won't be anything new. It's got to be much easier to take an existing item and renumber it than design something from scratch. What has there been from Farish in the last couple of years that is truly new? I'm not talking about stuff like the Thompson coaches and 8F that were announced years ago and arrived late. I can only think of the class 90 but as I don't follow modern stuff there may be more. There certainly haven't been any new things for the transition era to my knowledge?

Dave
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: eddief83 on February 03, 2023, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: Southerngooner on February 03, 2023, 09:41:13 AM
I think I'm right in saying that Bachmann had full page ads in the monthly magazines recently looking for a designer for N Gauge.

I have not seen this myself, but I doubt it would be the case, I cannot see Bachmann employing seperate people to work on different sectors - most likely it will be one group who take on different projects, each picking up the next drawing once they finish their current one. Be it N, OO or OO9
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Southerngooner on February 03, 2023, 03:12:43 PM
This was it......

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You will be expected to be able to start and follow through multiple new projects to completion while working to deadlines and liaising on a day-to-day basis, both with the other members of the R&D team in the UK and our parent company's engineering team based in Hong Kong.

The successful candidate must have the ability to research, analyse and compile detailed technical briefs and have strong communication skills – both written and verbal. Experience using Autocad or Solidworks is a key requirement.


For a typical project you will be required to:

Compile a brief historical overview of the prototype
Source and interpret original engineering drawings
Arrange site visits to survey full-size prototypes
Liaise with third-party experts, museums & heritage group
Produce free-hand sketches of undocumented features
Create 2D or 3D CAD files of key design elements to assist the Hong Kong based engineering team
Analyse and review the completed engineering design
Evaluate and report on prototype testing
Liaise with the Artwork team with product decoration requirements
A clear understanding of die-cast metal and plastic manufacturing techniques and materials will be beneficial. An interest in railway modelling particularly in N Scale or an association with the railway industry would be seen as an advantage.

This is a full-time position with a competitive salary offered (dependant on experience) plus benefits. The role is based Monday to Friday at our head office in Barwell, Leicestershire therefore the ideal candidates should be within a commutable distance of our European HQ.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Richard Taylor on February 03, 2023, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: Southerngooner on February 03, 2023, 09:41:13 AM
<snip>until they fill that post and the newbie gets some designing done there won't be anything new. It's got to be much easier to take an existing item and renumber it than design something from scratch.</snip>
Dave

I'd say that at this stage it's not a matter of them lacking a designer so being unable to produce "anything new".  It's that Farish aren't even doing what you identify as the easy option: re-running existing items (with or without new numbers) which are core to having a worthwhile model railway. 

After all the money spent on tooling the excellent Thompson coaches, to have only issued one run in teak and then nothing since is just incomprehensible.  The expensive work is done - what is stopping more runs, this time in maroon and crimson/cream, to match the NGS exclusive BGs?

(OT: If Farish *did* do some new tooling a restaurant car would be good, which could be also issued in blue/grey.  Or, if the NGS want an idea for a future member exclusive rtr project then how about catering vehicles? 3D-printed if necessary. They were generally long-lived, ran inter-company and inter-regionally, and you can't have a realistic formation without them. With the demise of Etched Pixels you can't even get kits for them.)

These are items which people buy in multiples.  If you make enough, then retailers have a chance of keeping them in stock for a few months so that modellers can even afford to accumulate a decent rake! Or release one type of carriage at a time, over a year or so.  (The memory of having to shell out for eight Thompsons at once because of the limited batch production system still hurts...)

As I've said elsewhere, all the above goes double for Mk.1s, but they're outside my era of interest (the next thing I'm waiting eagerly for are the Revolution K-type Pullmans) so I'll let others post rants about them  ;)

Richard
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Roy L S on February 03, 2023, 04:40:09 PM
 :)
Quote from: Richard Taylor on February 03, 2023, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: Southerngooner on February 03, 2023, 09:41:13 AM
<snip>until they fill that post and the newbie gets some designing done there won't be anything new. It's got to be much easier to take an existing item and renumber it than design something from scratch.</snip>
Dave

I'd say that at this stage it's not a matter of them lacking a designer so being unable to produce "anything new".  It's that Farish aren't even doing what you identify as the easy option: re-running existing items (with or without new numbers) which are core to having a worthwhile model railway. 

After all the money spent on tooling the excellent Thompson coaches, to have only issued one run in teak and then nothing since is just incomprehensible.  The expensive work is done - what is stopping more runs, this time in maroon and crimson/cream, to match the NGS exclusive BGs?

(OT: If Farish *did* do some new tooling a restaurant car would be good, which could be also issued in blue/grey.  Or, if the NGS want an idea for a future member exclusive rtr project then how about catering vehicles? 3D-printed if necessary. They were generally long-lived, ran inter-company and inter-regionally, and you can't have a realistic formation without them. With the demise of Etched Pixels you can't even get kits for them.)

These are items which people buy in multiples.  If you make enough, then retailers have a chance of keeping them in stock for a few months so that modellers can even afford to accumulate a decent rake! Or release one type of carriage at a time, over a year or so.  (The memory of having to shell out for eight Thompsons at once because of the limited batch production system still hurts...)

As I've said elsewhere, all the above goes double for Mk.1s, but they're outside my era of interest (the next thing I'm waiting eagerly for are the Revolution K-type Pullmans) so I'll let others post rants about them  ;)

Richard

A correction, there already have been Blood & Custard Thompsons as part of the initial release, I have a lovely rake of them  :).
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Richard Taylor on February 03, 2023, 06:12:35 PM
Quote from: Roy L S on February 03, 2023, 04:40:09 PM
A correction, there already have been Blood & Custard Thompsons as part of the initial release, I have a lovely rake of them  :).

<facepalm>. Yes, of course they were. I couldn't afford two rakes (one teak & one b/c) at the time, so I went for teak on the grounds that b/c was much more likely to be re-run when they did maroon, which "of course" wouldn't be long as they'd "obviously" want to maximise the return on this tooling. Shows what I know...

I think my main point still stands. Maroon would be the biggest seller I'd guess, but you need blood & custard to mix up with either maroon or teak rakes to model the transition era.
Richard
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Aire Valley on February 03, 2023, 08:47:57 PM
Quote from: Steven B on February 03, 2023, 09:27:52 AM

Like westie7/Mark above, I'm surprised the V tank PCA hasn't been re-done by someone although Farish and Realtrack had both made later types. The HEA is another low hanging fruit.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Bachmann UK's planning meetings, particularly the one where they discussed the latch batch of Mk2a and failed to make a Regional Railways Mk2a or Blue/grey TSO. Madness!

Steven B.

The depressed centre V PCA and HEA would fly off the shelves if they ever retooled them. Both operated all over the UK, lasted 30-40 years in service, had a variety of liveries, could be seen in block trainloads or just as a few forming part of a feeder wagonload service. The cement liveried V PCA would also compliment their more modern Metalair PCA.

It must be frustrating for those modellers wanting to get hold of some coaches. It seems to be that when a release does come to fruition, there doesn't seem to be enough quantity of stock produced of the most common/popular items and liveries.

Tim
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: AdrianC on February 03, 2023, 09:02:12 PM
Very underwhelming and I'm not surprised. I'll add my name to the 'no coaches??' list....

Still can't believe no one has taken a punt on the OTA, although that looks more like the sort of wagon Revolution might pick up.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 03, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
QuoteThe depressed centre V PCA and HEA would fly off the shelves if they ever retooled them. Both operated all over the UK, lasted 30-40 years in service, had a variety of liveries, could be seen in block trainloads or just as a few forming part of a feeder wagonload service.

Absolutely agree, especially regarding the HEA. I would like to get hold of some in the Grey / Red Railfreight combo, but I refuse to pay £20 each for such an old basic wagon (by todays standards) and that seems to be the going rate. Sadly I think a modern one would be North of £30 now.

Almost the same statement for HAAs as well, although there seems to be a tiny bit more of those around due to the three manufactures versions of the past.

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: jmupton2000 on February 03, 2023, 10:57:42 PM
Now that all the excitement(!) has died down I have relaxed and taken another look at the announced offerings, a nice bog standard blue 08 is tempting and I may give a few Bogie Bolster's a home if they get discounted otherwise, all a bit underwhelming as expected.

One thing though, what is that amateurish piece of junk masquerading as a grounded coach body supposed to be? The roof looks like it is made of badly painted plasticine.  Not even fit for the bin and Bachmann want circa thirty five sheets for it?!?
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Portpatrick on February 03, 2023, 11:24:25 PM
I like the suggestion of OTAs.  I have c 4 Chivers kits.  I fabricated a couple more by adapting the relevant Taylor van kits.  Some OTAs  were created that way.  But I would not be averse to a few more.  With NEm pockets easisunt couplings would go on the outer ends of those I put at the end of the rake.  Dream on.  Back to reality
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: jmupton2000 on February 03, 2023, 10:57:42 PM
One thing though, what is that amateurish piece of junk masquerading as a grounded coach body supposed to be? The roof looks like it is made of badly painted plasticine.  Not even fit for the bin and Bachmann want circa thirty five sheets for it?!?

Methinks it's Bachmann who need grounding as far as that piece is concerned
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: NGS-PO on February 04, 2023, 10:44:19 AM
ALSO ARRIVING THIS QUARTER:

31130 Rf Coal
Ditto Sound Fitted
31466 EWS
Ditto Sound Fitted
31407 Mainline Freight
Ditto Sound Fitted

60044 Mainline Freight Sound Fitted
60096 Colas Rail Freight Sound Fitted
60100 DB Cargo Sound Fitted
60040 DB Schenker/Army Red Sound Fitted
Class 60 Farish 50th Anniversary Collectors Pack Sound Fitted

42 D809 BR Maroon SYP
42 812 BR Blue
42 D820 BR Green

220009 Arriva Cross Country
220018 Virgin Trains Revised

4F 4057 LMS Black Sound Fitted
4F 43892 BR Black BRITISH RAILWAYS Sound Fitted
4F 43931 BR Black Late Crest Weathered Sound Fitted

WORKS REPORT

Livery Samples received or awaited:
158 DMU
450 EMU
47 Crew Cut

In Production:
14 Sound Upgrade
Standard 5MT Sound Upgrade

On Their Way:
60 Sound Upgrade
4F Sound Upgrade

"Whilst there have been no rolling stock releases in N Scale this quarter, there will be many new releases of Graham Farish rolling stock during 2023 and beyond - starting this spring.  As with all new items, these will be unveiled in teh quarterly British Railways Announcements catalogue."

Best

Scott..
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 04, 2023, 10:49:25 AM
Did I see Warships? That will be a nice turn up. Been waiting for many years for those since they were announced.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: jmupton2000 on February 04, 2023, 10:51:24 AM
How can the Sound Fitted Class 60 be listed as due at the top of the list and then further down the Class 60 Sound Upgrade still be listed as on the way?
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: NGS-PO on February 04, 2023, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: jmupton2000 on February 04, 2023, 10:51:24 AM
How can the Sound Fitted Class 60 be listed as due at the top of the list and then further down the Class 60 Sound Upgrade still be listed as on the way?

I think it's because the "also coming this quarter" list is just that, due within the quarter, so presumably it is in transit due for distribution within the next three months.

Best

Scott.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 04, 2023, 10:49:25 AM
Did I see Warships? That will be a nice turn up. Been waiting for many years for those since they were announced.

Wahey! :claphappy:
The plain green D820 I think I've been waiting 4 years for is on the way.
Wonder what the price will be from Rails? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: martyn on February 04, 2023, 02:23:19 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

On their website £127.45p, Mick.........


https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-606-class-42-warship-d820-grenville-br-green-late-crest (https://railsofsheffield.com/products/graham-farish-371-606-class-42-warship-d820-grenville-br-green-late-crest)

Martyn
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Blast. It was in my 'pre order' spreadsheet at £110.45 :*(
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 04, 2023, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Blast. It was in my 'pre order' spreadsheet at £110.45 :*(
Hold tight Mick @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
Last time I spoke with Rails to remove one of my pre-orders, they said they would honour the Farish price. Usually they write to you if the price goes up and they can't keep to it.
My order of the Blue one is also at that nice price!

Bob
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: TomE on February 04, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
There was a small Bachmann stand at the Alton MRC Febex show this weekend, and much of the stock from the spring announcements was on display. Word was most of it should be here over 1-2 months. The Freightliner PowerHaul 90 looked particularly tasty!

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/92bcba_9f7d171856eb44cb88af9c3e85cf8f61~mv2.jpeg)

Tom.
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: PaulCheffus on February 05, 2023, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Blast. It was in my 'pre order' spreadsheet at £110.45 :*(

Hi

All may not be lost as others have said. They honoured the price of the Kato Azuma I pre ordered last year though I expected them to increase it.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Newportnobby on February 05, 2023, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on February 05, 2023, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Blast. It was in my 'pre order' spreadsheet at £110.45 :*(

Hi

All may not be lost as others have said. They honoured the price of the Kato Azuma I pre ordered last year though I expected them to increase it.

Cheers

Paul

We'll see when it arrives, I guess. It's still showing at £110.45 but was ordered 20.1.19 :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Bob G on February 05, 2023, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 05, 2023, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on February 05, 2023, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2023, 02:31:31 PM
Blast. It was in my 'pre order' spreadsheet at £110.45 :*(

Hi

All may not be lost as others have said. They honoured the price of the Kato Azuma I pre ordered last year though I expected them to increase it.

Cheers

Paul

We'll see when it arrives, I guess. It's still showing at £110.45 but was ordered 20.1.19 :goggleeyes:

You are definitely glass half empty at the moment. Have some faith  :wave:
Title: Re: Bachmann - Spring 2023 British Railway Announcements
Post by: Jeff_W on February 05, 2023, 08:58:26 PM
I find the Class 08s interesting...but I'm a sucker for those anyway.