Hi i have had some money for my birthday and i feel i should do it justice i am looking for a loco to add to the fleet of two something to compliment my 37.
Dapol or Farish i'm not fussed but my Farish 37 does run very smooth i like the 66 but have heard reliability stories etc about these are they true?
i also like the 47 but not seen much about them are they a good model?
idealy either in Colas (i like the color) but again not fussed as everything seems to run here.
a cheap resource for either will help buy more stock to pull.
Is it worth going the ebay/second hand route?
Dave
If you're not fussed over livery this looks a good deal
https://railsofsheffield.com/class-47-diesel-47474-sir-rowland-hill-br-parcels-red-amp-grey-locomotive-372-242-JJJA14435.aspx
or this one
https://railsofsheffield.com/class-47-diesel-47612-titan-br-intercity-locomotive-372-241-JJJA14434.aspx
i have the class 47 titan and it is a fabulous model it runs really well and pulls my rake of dapol mk3's as if they weren't there, but then that might be equally praise for dapols mk3's it runs really well at a crawl in DCC pulling a full rake and i have found it accepts the dapol magnetic and non magnetic couplers realy well, for looks really crisp livery and the detail is great and it looks even better with the front nem socket removed completely and bufferbeam details added,,,,,
Quote from: SymonC on May 26, 2012, 08:16:07 AM
If you're not fussed over livery this looks a good deal
https://railsofsheffield.com/class-47-diesel-47474-sir-rowland-hill-br-parcels-red-amp-grey-locomotive-372-242-JJJA14435.aspx
or this one
https://railsofsheffield.com/class-47-diesel-47612-titan-br-intercity-locomotive-372-241-JJJA14434.aspx
Could these pull freight in these liveries if so i may take the plunge?
Dave
best way to complement a 37 is with another 37!! I'f you would consider 66 i'd go 67 instead. But a nice 58 may work well??
I have several Dapol 66s. None are from the first batch, and all are excellent runners.
You should be able to get an EWS fairly cheap as they are common, but Colas do seem to cost more, especially on eBay, i think because they are rarer.
Quote from: DavidW on May 26, 2012, 12:01:21 PM
But a nice 58 may work well??
I would agree.....if you are looking for a loco to pull freight then the Dapol Railfright Redstripe 58 would be a great choice.
http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DAND103A (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DAND103A)
Really nice model and great slow speed running capabilities...... :thumbsup:
66's are way too late for my era, but if it helps, my 47's are really nice, quiet runners :thumbsup:
IMHO you cannot go wrong with either,
i have 1 dapol 66, x3 Farish 66's and x3 upgraded class 47's from farish, my favorite being large logo blue 'University of Leicester' all excellent runners.
Dapol do an excellent class 66 Colas set with a motorised 66 and a dummy 66, both look really good and ive heard of very little problems from them.
if you want to spend a bit more buy from an on-line big box seller like Hattons/Rails of Sheffield/Signal Box Rochester, that way if any problems you can send straight back and they are generally good on prices too.
How do i know if a loco is from a first batch? But if it's ok to have an intercity logo'd loco pulling freight i may go for one of those.
Dave
I have a China built Farish 47 in Rail Distribution ("The Sapper") and its one of my best runners.
The Farish EWS 66 in my fleet needed to go back to Bachman with a split gear, but they returned it no fuss.
It runs quite well, but I think it's not as well suited to tight corners as the 47.
I have 2 more 47s, both Poole build (SS Great Britain Great Western and Portabrook special edition) and I can only comment on the Great Western one (runs ok) as the purple one hasn't turned a wheel yet!
With regards to the two bargain 47s on Rails, the parcels one is the more versatile. You were more likely to see one of those on freight (as well as parcels vans and GUVs), and that version of Intercity livery is quite old now.
Having said that, if you like it, run it!
Skyline2uk
Quote from: Skyline2uk on May 26, 2012, 06:10:23 PM
I have a China built Farish 47 in Rail Distribution ("The Sapper") and its one of my best runners.
The Farish EWS 66 in my fleet needed to go back to Bachman with a split gear, but they returned it no fuss.
It runs quite well, but I think it's not as well suited to tight corners as the 47.
I have 2 more 47s, both Poole build (SS Great Britain Great Western and Portabrook special edition) and I can only comment on the Great Western one (runs ok) as the purple one hasn't turned a wheel yet!
With regards to the two bargain 47s on Rails, the parcels one is the more versatile. You were more likely to see one of those on freight (as well as parcels vans and GUVs), and that version of Intercity livery is quite old now.
Having said that, if you like it, run it!
Skyline2uk
Thanks i intend one day to model Dawlish so wanted to buy stock that i can keep and run on that layout i didn't want to buy a parcel loco then have to buy parcel vans as i intend pulling ballast wagons etc.
Dave
my 47s run well and look good.
you could bid on this pair of colas 66s...
ttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dapol-ND-126-Class-66-Twin-Pack-Colas-livery-/320913949026?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4ab7f64162
or buy this farish colas 66...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graham-Farish-371-395-Class-66-66843-Colas-Rail-Livery-New-N-/130694577687?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e6e00fe17 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Graham-Farish-371-395-Class-66-66843-Colas-Rail-Livery-New-N-/130694577687?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e6e00fe17)
fgw class 47 (might be suited to dawlish layout?)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAHAM-FARISH-371-226-CLASS-47-FIRST-GREAT-WESTERN-47832-/220974360843?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item337319290b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAHAM-FARISH-371-226-CLASS-47-FIRST-GREAT-WESTERN-47832-/220974360843?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item337319290b)
or bid on this 47 in br large logo....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372-240-NEW-Graham-Farish-class-47-University-Leicester-Large-logo-/160808618556?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2570f0ca3c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372-240-NEW-Graham-Farish-class-47-University-Leicester-Large-logo-/160808618556?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2570f0ca3c)
anyway just some ideas!!! you can tell i'm bored looking on ebay on saturday night!!!
tim
Can't comment on 66's but my green 47 looks and runs great.
Marty
Thanks bluedepot it amazes me how i miss stuff on ebay i hadn't seen any of those the 47 seems the most reliable/best runner so far but i have seen the new 37s liveries ??? They are a few more pounds though.
Dave
Quote from: Donkey on May 26, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Can't comment on 66's but my green 47 looks and runs great.
Marty
My Blue 47 and my green FGW 47 are great runners. Both are recent Farish models, nice detial too.
FYI Dave....Modelzone currently have a special offer on Farish Colas Rail Class 66:
http://www.modelzone.co.uk/special-offers/graham-farish-class-66-low-emission-diesel-66843-colas-rail.html (http://www.modelzone.co.uk/special-offers/graham-farish-class-66-low-emission-diesel-66843-colas-rail.html)
Skyline2uk
Thanks a 66 has been ordered free postage to so all good thanks guys
Dave
Surprise surprise they took the order but have no stock!!
Dave
Dave that is really rubbish of them! I hope they have not taken payment. I would cancell it ASAP just in case they wait until they get the loco back in and charge you full price.
I think thats against the rules, but you never know!
Skyline2uk
Yep they took the money but i've asked for a re-fund they have offered a 10% discount but the pessimist in me thinks the good price is the hook for me to spend on a full price model now but they do have a 37 on offer so i'll see
Dave
I am a sucker for 47s and have 3 of the current Graham Farish design, as follows:
47458 | Large Logo Blue | converted from 47535
47569 | Parcels 'The Gloucestershire Regiment' | converted from 47474
47713 | ScotRail 'Tayside region' | part of CJM push-pull set
Obviously you don't have to go all out and run them through CJM or Mercig treatment, but I can really recommend the current Grafar 47 even as it comes.
For freight I would recommend considering 47403 'The Geordie' in BR Blue livery, if it isn't too far before your era. Allright, 47/4s are ETH-fitted and more commonly hauled passenger trains, but the BR Blue livery was very versatile on the 47 so you could exercise quite a bit of license!
I really hope we get a Railfreight triple grey version at some point, as that would be great for freight and the decals, depot plates, etc could be changed to reflect Distribution, Metals, Construction or Petroleum. Lets hope for 2013!
I have found a few photo's of the inter-city liveried 47 on freight workings so really its a case of whatever takes your fancy..
HTH
Mark
Dave,
FYI I was in Model Zone Chester today and they had a GF class 66 in Colas livery on display. It was full price, so are they being naughty with sale prices!?!
Skyline2uk
I guess they could be anyhow i'll avoid them from now on
Dave