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Title: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: McRuss on January 01, 2023, 05:18:19 PM
Hello,

as some of you may know that I have a represantation of a quarry on my layout. I wonder what wagons I could use for the transport of ballast/gravel during the late 1950s and 1960s. I've got some Mermaids/Dogfish and Rudd wagons.

Markus
Title: Re: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: Steven B on January 01, 2023, 07:10:19 PM
Mermaids and Dogfish work well. You can also add Osborn Model's Catfish.

Dapols Grampus is another option, as is Farish's Sealion. The latter you'll only find second hand.

Rudd were a 1990 conversion of 21t hopper wagons and so aren't strictly prototypical for the 1950s.


Steven B
Title: Re: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: McRuss on January 03, 2023, 01:21:01 PM
Hello Steven,

thank you for your reply. But what wagons could I use for commercial ballast/gravel traffic? The mentioned wagons are all used in departmental service. But what wagons could I use if the quarry ships ballast or gravel to e.g. a construction side of a road or building?

Markus
Title: Re: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: tunneroner61 on January 03, 2023, 01:54:14 PM
Taking Foster Yeoman as an example they used 5 plank wagons from from the 1920s till 1949 when they ceazxed rail operations. When resumed in 1969 ex Iron Ore Tippler wagons TOPS code MSV were used, also standard MCV 16t wagons. Later on refurbished Hopper wagons of type HTV arrived.

So one could postulate that both 5 plankers, and steel hoppers could well be used in the 50s and 60s. All are available as kits from the NGS.

HTH Norman
Title: Re: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: Steven B on January 03, 2023, 02:02:56 PM
You're probably looking at bog-standard 5 plank opens.

Steel bodies mineral wagons or tipplers could potentially be used but are likely to run at least half-empty as stone is much denser than coal.

Excluding engineers wagons, I don't believe that stone was routinely carried in hoppers in the 1950s & 60s other than in the hoppers built for ICI (running from the Peak District quarries).

Some specialist traffic such as iron ore and anhydrite was carried in hoppers, but neither would be used in road construction.


Steven B.
Title: Re: What wagons could I use for ballast/gravel transport?
Post by: McRuss on January 03, 2023, 03:28:43 PM
Thank you for your replies.

Markus