Now that the ngauge.org resource site has closed down, can anybody tell me where to find a comprehensive list of RTR models?
Obviously there's the Wayback machine, but what a shame to kill it, rather than just say "no further updates as at x date".
Oh, what a great shame. A wonderful place.
Perhaps, if there was help offered to update it. Doing these things on your own is a daunting task, especially for years on end. I'd offer to take it on, but I would be unable to keep it up to date, but happy to run it.
Edit: I have contacted the owner regarding saving it.
Quote from: Diyceejay on October 30, 2022, 05:45:51 PM
Now that the ngauge.org resource site has closed down, can anybody tell me where to find a comprehensive list of RTR models?
Engee Publishing have published various Collector's Guides for N gauge model collectors:
https://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/home-page.html (https://www.ngaugemodelling.co.uk/home-page.html)
(Engee Publishing also produce the quarterly magazine "N Gauge Now").
They have published the following Collector's Guides:1) Spotter's Guide to British Locomotives – Combined Volume 2020 (possibly now out of print).
2) British Passenger Rolling Stock in N Gauge (1967-2020) – published in April 2021.
3) British Freight Rolling Stock in N Gauge (1967-2020) – published in January 2022.
I have all three of these Guides and they provide some good information about RTR models produced from the early days of British N Gauge up to 2020. The Guides include running numbers, catalogue numbers, liveries, and many photos. However, they are not error free and the publisher (Howard Foy) welcomes corrections that will be incorporated in future editions.
The other resource that I have used is "Ramsay's British Model Trains Catalogue". This reference includes catalogue information about all scales, including N gauge. Unfortunately, the last revision to this book is the 9th edition published in 2015 and it is unlikely to be updated. The digital version can be purchased online.
While none of these references are as handy as a full, online (free) reference source, they are very useful in tracking down models and model numbers.
Ian
Such a shame the site has been taken down rather than leaving it with a 'warning'.
I always found it incredibly useful. :(
Unfortunately only in german: https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-search.asp (https://www.spurweite-n.de/ncontent/ndb/ndb-search.asp)
Very usefull investigating into n gauge models. Has two advantages
- a searcheable database
- is maintained by the crowd. After regostering you can add entries, price quotes, comments and fotos
Shame - it was a really useful site and I thought it was well presented and easy to use. I especially liked being able to find what liveries were available and when they were made. As has been said these things take a lot of time if they are to be kept up to date and you can't expect one person to do it forever. It would be great if the NGF could help to keep this alive in some way. Perhaps take the info from the website and create some forum pages that do the same job? Maybe a topic for each loco type and allow all members to add extra information as new models/variants come along? That way no one person has to do all the work.
Or set it up as a controlled wkki?
I tried a Wiki some years back (see Wiki link above), but people don't seem to like using it! :*(
Thanks for your kind words - what started as a easy subject had become complex with so many new manufacturers with wide ranges.
The major issue is photography of items and sometimes this led to buying items I didnt really want purely to validate data and allow a photo, this is not sustainable and therefore I have taken on-board discussion here and will reduce the complexity of the site, removing the photography (i.e. means I can update much quicker and using validate sources).
I will look to re-add some photos to a gallary area at some point which is easier to manage separately. As a positive by-product the site will be less heavy and quicker to load.
I am currently cleaning up the website and hope to have it back up in the next few weeks.
Regards
Tony
Tony
That is brilliant news.
I know it was not a complete works, as it focussed on Diesel and Electric era, but if you wanted any help to make it more encompassing of earlier eras, I'd like to help out, if I can.
Bob
Brilliant news indeed Tony.
I would also like to offer my help in any way you may need some, as a user of your excellent site in the past. While my collection is mostly limited to blue/grey 80's stuff, and thus limited in terms of being able to offer very much in terms of pictures etc, do let me know if you can think of anything that would help you.
All the best
Christopher
Quote from: carderrail on November 08, 2022, 04:18:13 PM
I am currently cleaning up the website and hope to have it back up in the next few weeks.
That's excellent news, Tony, as I found your site to be extremely useful for reference.
Given a description and reference number, it's no huge task for me to look the item up on t'Internet for a pic/source if I need to
If we can be of help Tony, please do ask questions we are all happy to share in the good news and this useful resource
Just to re-iterate all of the above Tony. It is a hugely useful site and I don't know if you have any statistics but I would think it is used a lot by N gaugers whether they are on this forum or not. I understand regarding the pictures but maybe you could start a thread on this forum requesting pictures of anything you need without having to buy it yourself. I'm sure most products are in the collections of people on here, myself included.
Personally I can't wait to see it back up and running as it is 1 of the very few websites which has a shortcut to it on my desktop :thumbsup:
Quote from: Trainfish on November 08, 2022, 10:44:51 PM
... maybe you could start a thread on this forum requesting pictures of anything you need without having to buy it yourself. I'm sure most products are in the collections of people on here, myself included.
Absolutely no need to buy everything yourself. Use catalogue photos or make a request for photos from someone owning the model.
Absolutely no need to buy everything yourself. Use catalogue photos or make a request for photos from someone owning the model.
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Much easier not to include photos (except in an album) - as suggested easy to google these yourself - reduces my work load greatly!
:claphappy:
Regards
Tony
I do think a photo is a key part of the information where available, eg. visually confirm this is the item you're looking for. I do appreciate it's more workload though.
As a Continental modeller I these sites as reference sources:
https://www.spurweite-n.de/ (https://www.spurweite-n.de/)
https://www.spur-n-datenbank.de/ (https://www.spur-n-datenbank.de/)
I don't suppose there's any news on getting this back up is there Tony @carderrail (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2538) ? My spreadsheet has a few gaps waiting to be filled with catalogue numbers etc :hmmm:
All,
Not forgotten... Xmas/New Year and holidays got in the way!
Nearly completed....
A call out - any one got a decent photo of the new Revolution Biomass Hoppers I can use on the website (will credit you) - side on view on a white background if possible and a good resolution at least 2000 pixels across.
Regards
Tony
Hi Tony.
I've sent you a message ref the above.
Atb,
Tom.