So, 'she who must be obeyed without question' has banned me from working in the loft on my layout during the hot weather. To be fair she has a point because I did come down dripping wet the other day. So, today I've taken over the dining table as a work bench and have used the time to make a start on the pile of Metcalfe models I bought recently. Today I made a PN961 Modern Retail Unit and I enjoyed building it. Some models I find frustrating but the Mefcalfe ones I find quite satisfying to build. I have another one of these to build tomorrow and then I'll start on the terraced houses, unless I get side tracked onto the petrol station. Bring on the heatwave, I've got enough kits to build to last me at least another week.
How has the hot weather affected you?
me - not much, I did 13 months in the Gulf - rule 1 keep hydrated [off down the Provost Club]
SWMBO - really suffering , may need to re-book her next consult which requires a visit to PRH for an x-ray
HB - as long as I carry loads of water for him on his walks, and even 'mist / spray' him with water to cool him, he is, amazingly, fine.
though some IDOs still seem to think it is ok to expect their dogs to spend their entire walk chasing tennis balls.
what is the term I'm looking for >:D
Luckily, oop North we don't tend to get the extreme hot weather. As an example, tomorrow is expected to be around 23 degrees. Worst thing for me is the nights :sweat: as I can't sleep and that just makes me irritable next day.
I love the heat.
We don't get enough warm to hot sunny days so make the most of them while you can.
It's been about 26/27 degrees in Cornwall today. Lovely to sit outside and soak up the rays. It makes you feel so much better.
And I adore the warm nights with the windows wide open. I sleep like a log.
Bring on more of it I say.
Mind you....I love the cold, frosty weather as well,
Transferred my home office into the garden shed under the hazelnut tree. Dogs love it too...
Just about old enough to remember the long hot summer of 76. Prefer the shade myself. Working on the railways great if the aircon works , sweaty work shunting and coupling/ uncoupling.
Today doesn't seem to have been as hot as it might have been down in the South East corner, it was quite pleasant in my home office with the windows and patio door open. I know they're threatening it will get hotter towards the weekend, not my idea of fun.
Must admit I'd never ever build a layout in a loft, shed or garage unless it were properly lined out and stabilised for temperature and humidity.
I have considered the matter carefully and am sitting in the shade drinking cold beer until it gets better ;)
Quote from: crewearpley40 on July 11, 2022, 09:35:39 PM
Just about old enough to remember the long hot summer of 76. Prefer the shade myself. Working on the railways great if the aircon works , sweaty work shunting and coupling/ uncoupling.
Yes, at just coming up to 10 years old, I loved the summer of '76. Out all day, exploring or having water fights. A wonderful summer. And yes, these days, I prefer it much cooler.
You lot don't know the meaning of hot ;)
Ironically, I'm freezing at the moment, even with the heaters on! :(
Hi,
23...26/27 degrees?
You're so lucky!...
You can't understand here.....it's going to start one more "week of fire" :(
Marco
I spent the summer of 76 working in a tiny kitchen knocking out maybe 300 meals a day, school broke early for exams so I spent may be 10 weeks doing that. Lovely memories of my family and the odd day off spending loads although not on trains more like young fillies would I be 15 again yes in 76 now I'm not so sure
Hope this doesn't constitute a thread-jack regarding 1976, but I was sitting in the Albion pub with a pint in hand at the bottom of Station Hill in Winchester when the drought broke early in the evening in late August.
Everyone in the pub took their drinks outside to marvel at the phenomenon of Getting Wet. We waved at the denizens of the Eagle opposite, who all came out to do the same thing and in solidarity "Get Wet Outside With The Albion". Then we all got wet, all collectively said "sod this" and went back inside for a refill.
After this exhibition of community spirit, the customers of The Albion and The Eagle returned to their collective behavior of ignoring each other, as far was possible in a small town.
I had a garden railway before I started N gauge. In fact I only started N gauge because I found it wasn't so nice outside in the winter. So when its hot I play with bigger trains outdoors.
I ran this special on Sunday.
Which just goes to show that Rock Island Line is indeed a mighty fine line!
Or if I go into my railway room I am instantly beside the seaside.
We got to 27C in the sun yesterday, the house has been well shut up on the South side blinds closed during daylight, we open windows as the outside temperature falls below the outside. We have a well practised routing for hot days, and one or two in a row can be managed. However more than two days and the portable air-con' comes out and the living room becomes our cool haven.
Quote from: Chris Morris on July 12, 2022, 06:42:58 AM
I had a garden railway before I started N gauge. In fact I only started N gauge because I found it wasn't so nice outside in the winter. So when its hot I play with bigger trains outdoors.
I ran this special on Sunday.
Now that's my kind of train! I reckon @Trainfish (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=262) will be impressed, too. :beers:
@Chris Morris (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3123) I can't recall BR running such an intensive service in my spotting days :no: ;)
Nearest thing to that was trying to get the number off everything through Clapham Junction!!
Quote from: GAD on July 12, 2022, 09:30:48 AM
We got to 27C in the sun yesterday, the house has been well shut up on the South side blinds closed during daylight, we open windows as the outside temperature falls below the outside. We have a well practised routing for hot days, and one or two in a row can be managed. However more than two days and the portable air-con' comes out and the living room becomes our cool haven.
I'm sure my fellow antipodean members will be chuckling along with me.... 27? Try a couple of days in your house at 42! ;)
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: GAD on July 12, 2022, 09:30:48 AM
We got to 27C in the sun yesterday, the house has been well shut up on the South side blinds closed during daylight, we open windows as the outside temperature falls below the outside. We have a well practised routing for hot days, and one or two in a row can be managed. However more than two days and the portable air-con' comes out and the living room becomes our cool haven.
I'm sure my fellow antipodean members will be chuckling along with me.... 27? Try a couple of days in your house at 42! ;)
One good reason why emigrating to Ox' was never on my 'to do' list.
I'm a Northerner, and my house, and pretty much everyone else's house in the UK is not set up to cope with heat. It's insulated, has windows that act as radiators passing heat from the sun into the house and does not have built in air-con, or shutters.
If global warming keeps on, and I see no reason why it would not, then we will need to spend big money to help keep it cool in the summers to come.
I'm a northerner too!
Where abouts are you? I'm from Sunderland. :beers:
I've worked in Saudi when the thermometer goes off the scale (70C) and it's in the shade of the box you're putting the equipment into you know it's hot.. (note, surrounded by black tarmac, in no wind)
These days, the meter screen just above the PC says..
Zone 1, 23.87C
Zone 2, 23.57C
Zone 3, 22.25C,
Zone 4, 23.08C
Average 23.17C,
Humidity 42.44%
Mains frequency 50.01 Hz
Mains Voltage 225.49VAC
All for this little 15ft square lab.
I don't think the outside temperature will bother me till I go out the the Landrover at the end of work, that's sat with the bulkhead vents open and the windows partly open..
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Try a couple of days in your house at 42! ;)
My house isn't at 42. It's at 44 :dunce:
When I retired last night the temperature in the bungalow was 25. It's all very well having this thick loft insulation but it traps the heat below it. Maybe I ought to sleep in the loft :hmmm:
only if you want the local council to increase your council tax @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)
they would probably upgrade you to the next band, announce a number of modifications you need to make, and then book a holiday on the proceeds.
Just checked the local forecast on the Beeb website:-
Weds - Fri nothing above 20
Saturday up to 23
Sunday up to 26
Mon and Tues 29
This is going to be hugely uncomfortable for many humans and most domestic pets, and will be even worse, no doubt, darn sarf (as warned about on the news)
The South East corner's been quite bearable again today, I was expecting it to be hotter. In fact it's overcast at the moment which made my weekly walk back from the Indian takeaway very pleasant :)
I've been fishing (freshwater not sea) all day.
Twas cloudy this morning and at 8-00am we even had a tiny shower.
But it eventually turned sunny and reached a very pleasant 27 degrees.
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: GAD on July 12, 2022, 09:30:48 AM
We got to 27C in the sun yesterday, the house has been well shut up on the South side blinds closed during daylight, we open windows as the outside temperature falls below the outside. We have a well practised routing for hot days, and one or two in a row can be managed. However more than two days and the portable air-con' comes out and the living room becomes our cool haven.
I'm sure my fellow antipodean members will be chuckling along with me.... 27? Try a couple of days in your house at 42! ;)
We all have a definition of hot and cold, having just come back from Darwin, where the ticket collector at the Darwin Tunnel museum was complaining about the cold and wearing a coat as it was only getting to 25c that day, I of course was in shorts and teeshirt.
Quote from: Graham on July 12, 2022, 11:57:21 PM
We all have a definition of hot and cold, having just come back from Darwin, where the ticket collector at the Darwin Tunnel museum was complaining about the cold and wearing a coat as it was only getting to 25c that day, I of course was in shorts and teeshirt.
I once toured the Ice Caves in Austria, that remain frozen all year round, wearing shorts, tee shirt and sandals.
Quote from: stevewalker on July 13, 2022, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Graham on July 12, 2022, 11:57:21 PM
We all have a definition of hot and cold, having just come back from Darwin, where the ticket collector at the Darwin Tunnel museum was complaining about the cold and wearing a coat as it was only getting to 25c that day, I of course was in shorts and teeshirt.
I once toured the Ice Caves in Austria, that remain frozen all year round, wearing shorts, tee shirt and sandals.
Mad dogs and Englishmen :)
It's not the temperature per se but the lack of aircon. I am currently in Gran Canaria and its hot but having pools and aircon rooms etc.. its fine. Not looking forward to returning to ridiculously hot South Wales at the weekend and was hoping for rain to welcome us home. We will now have 3 nights of no sleep to look forward to instead 8)
Quote from: Bealman on July 12, 2022, 11:56:44 AM
I'm a northerner too!
Where abouts are you? I'm from Sunderland. :beers:
County Durham, mid-way between Darlo' and Durham.
I'll guess Sedgefield.
Are you ready for 40/41º..???? :)
Marco
The office where my layout resides reached 27.5c today. Only apparent issue is one road in the fiddle yard is showing signs of buckling. We'll see what happens tomorrow... :)
Hi ,
I've just read on Facebook the " red alert" by Network Rail about it
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkrail.co.uk%2Fstories%2Fred-weather-warning-east-coast-main-line-to-close%2F&h=AT23BQZlacBVkm9NgxO_AESSTvEJ4HId0N73foiQPrOyFbBJsVBZoktmOwIj80rdSxTGxFck_BprRQj5jEHV3tQkY0gGxxuvBeQtltd-5bUCjiherfobGpClWLxi&s=1 (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkrail.co.uk%2Fstories%2Fred-weather-warning-east-coast-main-line-to-close%2F&h=AT23BQZlacBVkm9NgxO_AESSTvEJ4HId0N73foiQPrOyFbBJsVBZoktmOwIj80rdSxTGxFck_BprRQj5jEHV3tQkY0gGxxuvBeQtltd-5bUCjiherfobGpClWLxi&s=1)
Now reached an equilibrium with the temperature both out and in at 25 degrees.
Looks like a sleepless night tonight :sweat:
Quote from: marco neri on July 17, 2022, 09:02:01 PM
Hi ,
I've just read on Facebook the " red alert" by Network Rail about it
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkrail.co.uk%2Fstories%2Fred-weather-warning-east-coast-main-line-to-close%2F&h=AT23BQZlacBVkm9NgxO_AESSTvEJ4HId0N73foiQPrOyFbBJsVBZoktmOwIj80rdSxTGxFck_BprRQj5jEHV3tQkY0gGxxuvBeQtltd-5bUCjiherfobGpClWLxi&s=1 (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkrail.co.uk%2Fstories%2Fred-weather-warning-east-coast-main-line-to-close%2F&h=AT23BQZlacBVkm9NgxO_AESSTvEJ4HId0N73foiQPrOyFbBJsVBZoktmOwIj80rdSxTGxFck_BprRQj5jEHV3tQkY0gGxxuvBeQtltd-5bUCjiherfobGpClWLxi&s=1)
Yes, typical Britain. We'll close a major railway because the overhead wires or track might bend a bit... hmm.. electrified railways in Moroccan deserts come to mind...
The heatwave has actually hit the news here! Must be real! ;)
I always remember my dear long departed Gran telling me not to partake of a cold drink in hot weather. It's OK at the time but all that happens is your body works frantically to bring that drink to the same temperature as your body and that makes you even hotter. She said it was far better to have a brew. Whether there's any veracity in this I don't know, but it does sound plausible :hmmm:
@Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941)
Quote from: Gordon on July 18, 2022, 01:22:39 AM
Yes, typical Britain. We'll close a major railway because the overhead wires or track might bend a bit... hmm.. electrified railways in Moroccan deserts come to mind...
We do get laughed at for our lack of ability to cope with high and low temperatures but I think it's a little unfair.
The average winter temperature in Marrakesh, Morocco, is about 12 degrees C (about 54 F), peaking at around 30C in the summer so a much narrow spread than the UK.
Our temperatures are also less stable over longer periods. We don't see the heat continuing at similar levels for day after day. We get temperatures over 30 for today and tomorrow before they drop to the low/mid 20s on Wednesday. Next week it may be back below 20. That's a big swing in temperature in very few days and harder to engineer around that more stable temperatures.
Higher temperatures are easy to live with if they're their all the time - you build to minimise the effects. Compare a typical Mediterranean house with white walls to our heat absorbing brown bricks. Add in the ability to cope with sub-zero temperatures for several weeks of the year and it's a bit tricker.
We see similar issues in the winter. Scandinavia gets on with live under several feet of snow whilst we grind to a halt with a couple of inches. The big difference is ours keeps melting and re-freezing. If it stayed below freezing for weeks or even months on end there'd me much less of a problem.
Steven B.
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 18, 2022, 09:17:32 AM
I always remember my dear long departed Gran telling me not to partake of a cold drink in hot weather. It's OK at the time but all that happens is your body works frantically to bring that drink to the same temperature as your body and that makes you even hotter. She said it was far better to have a brew. Whether there's any veracity in this I don't know, but it does sound plausible :hmmm:
@Railwaygun (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=941)
I'd agree with this actually. I had a cup of tea round a mate's yesterday and it was very refreshing, even as we sat in the garden at 4pm. :thumbsup:
I guess it won't apply to everyone though 8)
It is a scientific fact that, in the right circumstances, a warm drink can cool you down in summer. There is a lot of information on the net, including -
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2018/0702/975770-hot-drinks-summer-heat-cool-down/ (https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2018/0702/975770-hot-drinks-summer-heat-cool-down/)
So, like a lot of 'old wives tales', there is an element of truth there.
Quote from: sparky on July 13, 2022, 02:28:08 PM
It's not the temperature per se but the lack of aircon. I am currently in Gran Canaria and its hot but having pools and aircon rooms etc.. its fine. Not looking forward to returning to ridiculously hot South Wales at the weekend and was hoping for rain to welcome us home. We will now have 3 nights of no sleep to look forward to instead 8)
Our daughter-in-law comes from Gran Canaria, currently lives in Hove. She spent yesterday afternoon on the sofa with a blanket over her knees! Go figure...
Cheers,
Chris
I thought the rule to cool down was hot drinks in hot dry heat conditions, cool drinks in hot humid conditions. I can't tell whether it's humid here so I've already had a coffee and just waiting for ice cold cider o'clock :D
Cheers, weave :beers:
PS Will be drinking water as well before any lectures start ;)
Here in Canberra (Australia) summertime temperatures are frequently over 30, sometimes over 35, and occasionally over 40, but the discomfort with these temperatures really only occurs big time when a high humidity comes along with them. Luckily, we usually have a dry heat which is okay. In the UK surrounded by sea, I expect that your humidity would be fairly high which would make for uncomfortable conditions especially through the night.
I sympathise, I really do! One can keep the cold out, but not the heat without aircon.
Webbo
I'm sat in a cafe in Truro with a nice hot cup of coffee (and a rather nice piece of cake).
Pleasantly warm in the sun but then I love this weather.
Enjoyment sitting over coffee. I work on the railways. Been shunting coaches whilst cooler. A decision was made to start and just out if hi vis wear. Enjoying the shade and cold water
Quote from: port perran on July 18, 2022, 10:09:15 AM
I'm sat in a cafe in Truro with a nice hot cup of coffee (and a rather nice piece of cake).
Pleasantly warm in the sun but then I love this weather.
I thought you were supposed to stodge up with food on the morning of a beer festival, not five days before :D
Our two tortoises are loving the weather.
Just been out to put some stuff in the recycling bin and, by heck, it's like an oven out there!! 8)
The temperatures, certainly in my part of Ireland, are not as bad as they appear to be in England. This morning, once the fog, (yes, thick fog when I got up), had cleared and the sun started shining, I followed the advice and shut all the doors. The temperature in the house has been quite pleasant. I have just checked the temperature in the dining room and it is showing 23.1°C. Immediately outside the dining room - in the shade - the temperature is showing 29°C and there is a slight westerly breeze, so keeping outside doors closed does make quite a difference. I hope everybody and their dog, (and cat), is doing okay in the heat.
09:00 and 28C on Norwich airport this morning,
26C out at Hickling sailing club, not far from my house.
23.09C here in the Lab.
Sounds bearable to me :thumbsup:
Dealing with the heat, IMO:
1 Keep your house sealed up during the day and open it up once the sun goes down
2 Walk on the shady side of the street and slow your speed of doing things
3 Enjoy the warmth as it will be cold soon enough
Webbo
:laughabovepost:
True!
Aussies give advice ;)
36°C in Paris right now, and climbing.
As I'm home alone today I'm chilling out in my underwear (with the curtains pulled).
The postman certainly didn't hang around when I opened the door to him to take delivery of my parcel from Hattons* :)
*11 x Peco 9' steel chassis kits + 1 x RTR Butterley mineral wagon
Currently 34 degrees here in Kenley. I work in a secured building with bullet proof glass and airlocks. There are no windows to open, but we have air conditioning throughout, and ventilation. I can't complain! My poor wife and kids are at home suffering though.
I hope everyone else is managing to cope OK?
Quote from: dannyboy on July 18, 2022, 09:51:09 AM
..... like a lot of 'old wives tales', there is an element of truth there.
Of course there is - how do you think they survived to become old :).
At work at 515am this morning cleaning coaches and shunting plus coipling uncoupling vacuum pipes. Diesel only usage to fire risk and sweated even at 8am wearing hi vis clothing . Heading home. 34 degrees and shower, nodding off on the train home
What doesn't seem to have been mentioned, either in this thread or in the media, is humidity-or lack of it.
It seems to be a hot but dry heat, which I find quite comfortable. I was in Colchester yesterday afternoon in temperatures of ~35-37C; in the past, I've felt far worse in lower temperatures but with high humidity.
I'm also fortunate (in summer) to live close to the East Coast, as usually as at present, we get a cooling Easterly sea breeze by mid afternoon to make the temperature more comfortable. The same easterly winds in the winter, however, mean cold or very cold, whatever the forecasts say.
Martyn
Quote from: Tank on July 19, 2022, 11:29:05 AM
I hope everyone else is managing to cope OK?
I am coping very well thank you, with the temperature at 20.9°C, grey cloud cover and spots of rain. Now where did I put my cardigan?
I planned to have lunch with an Indian visitor today but he called me this morning to cancel because it was "too hot to go out" !
Hot news (literally!).
It's just been announced that the UK record has (provisionally) been broken - 39.1 at Charlwood, near Gatport Airwick. About 15 miles from where we are. And it's not even noon yet. Oooer...
Cheers,
Chris
Quote from: dannyboy on July 19, 2022, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 19, 2022, 11:29:05 AM
I hope everyone else is managing to cope OK?
I am coping very well thank you, with the temperature at 20.9°C, grey cloud cover and spots of rain. Now where did I put my cardigan?
I hope it doesn't snow this afternoon :)
8 a.m. this morning we had 28.5C and by 10.15 it was 35C.
Had to visit Tesco and when I came out to my black car I had to 'air' it for a few minutes.
Short sharp shower last night obviously contained loads of desert crap as the car is a lovely spotted one now :unimpressed:
The "desert crap" would be from Southport ?
Quote from: joe cassidy on July 19, 2022, 12:38:38 PM
The "desert crap" would be from Southport ?
Nah - all this ordure is blowing up from the sarf :no:
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Sending you guys my best wishes. This kinda heats isnt something to muck about with. We got up to 45 last year here on Vancouver Island, and Lytton in the interior set a record at 49.5! Like the UK, coastal BC isn't used to these high temps, we had 619 Deaths in the week that were attributed directly to the heat. Stay in the shade, drink as much water as you can and none of that physical activity crap! A nice read of your favourite railway book in the shade sounds about perfect!
:(
driving in the desert....
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(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/124/10040-190722150915.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=124267)
I don't know how many people will die in the UK this year from the heat, but I was just looking up the number of deaths from the cold in 2020.
28k , Sobering!
https://www.nea.org.uk/news/271120-01/ (https://www.nea.org.uk/news/271120-01/)
Editorial in our national paper today ;D :smiley-laughing: ;D ;D
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Sounds like the kind of thought leadership that led to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-62217390 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-62217390)
A triumph of thoughtlessness and of greed, I'd say, both at national and international scales.
Note that the previous Australian government withheld this state-of-the-environment report from release for more than the 6 months prior to our election this past May. Of course, this delay had nothing to do with the fear that the report's findings might influence voter thoughts on polling day? :hmmm:
Webbo