In about 3 months I'll be looking buy a low mileage larger car than my Siesta and like the look of these. Anyone got opinions on them please?
Note - no diesel or electric models will be entertained :no:
Pre 2021 cars suffer from external water leaks and the stop start electronic system is known to cause concerns but like everything mass produced issues are hit and miss.
As long as you've got good dealer support I dont think youd be disappointed with one. They are extremely popular so that says quite alot.
N-tec specs are pretty high with lots of good kit
As much as I'd love you to stay with the blue oval Mick, the eco-sport is the easiest ford to nick, my dads got done in 12 secs!! The Kuga is extremely expensive to match the spec of a good Qashqai
OK....
Question from the antipodes...
Why do you need a bigger car? ???
One of the most polluting cars in existence.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107494/dvsa-slams-unacceptable-nissan-qashqai-emissions (https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107494/dvsa-slams-unacceptable-nissan-qashqai-emissions)
Admittedly, that's a diesel, but still, not a car that I would consider in any circumstances. YMMV (probably will :D ).
Have you considered the peugeot 3008 ?
My wife has one - it's a very nice car and it only has 3 cylinders so you reduce your exhaust emissions by 25% :)
Quote from: exmouthcraig on June 12, 2022, 11:21:41 AM
Pre 2021 cars suffer from external water leaks
N-tec specs are pretty high with lots of good kit
Being made in Sunderland you'd think they know about leaks.
Yeah - the N-Tec looks good. Thanks
Quote from: Bealman on June 12, 2022, 11:24:50 AM
OK....Why do you need a bigger car? ???
Comfort mainly. It'll be nice to climb into a car rather than curl myself down into a car.
My eldest sister is also size 26 and is wrecking my little Ford :thumbsdown:
Quote from: joe cassidy on June 12, 2022, 01:28:25 PM
Have you considered the peugeot 3008 ?
I've suffered and heard many issues with Poojots in the past. They look OK but build quality was a tad suspect but that was a few years ago.
Thanks for the replies so far.
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 12, 2022, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Bealman on June 12, 2022, 11:24:50 AM
OK....Why do you need a bigger car? ???
Comfort mainly. It'll be nice to climb into a car rather than curl myself down into a car.
My eldest sister is also size 26 and is wrecking my little Ford :thumbsdown:
Can't you trade in your sister and keep your Siesta? I would recommend a Kuga (I have 1) but as someone else said, they're not cheap. Mine is 5.5 years old with 21,000 on the clock. Similar cars but with higher mileage are listed at around £13000 which is more than I paid 4 years ago :D
Another candidate could be a Kia Sportage :hmmm:
I've always hankered after a Cupra Formentor. The VW T-Roc is also a cracker (my physiotherapist drives one).
Don't know where they sit in your budget. You won't be able to afford my physiotherapist, but her car is awesome.
Bob
KIAs warranty is the business, never had an isuue getting a repir done.
A mate of mine works in an office which was pre covid full of mummys doing school runs. He always comments when he sees a Qashqai that a lot of people bought/leased one but not a second one!
Cheers Colin
Have you and a look at Skodas? I have a Kodiaq and it's an absolutely fantastic car. They also have a Karoq which is similar but a touch smaller. The Kodiaq is a really nice drive and a comfortable place to be.
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 12, 2022, 02:32:22 PM
Another candidate could be a Kia Sportage :hmmm:
I run a 61 plate Kia Sorento, so a bit larger than the Sportage. Wonderful car, does whatever I ask of it. Very reliable, the diesel engine has useful power, and of course the exhibition layout or my drum kit all fits in the back with room to spare:) I bought it from new after having had a couple of Ford Mondeo estates, I remember there was a review video at the time saying "Sorento goes where a Mondeo can't!"
I'd definitely consider another Kia if the need arose.
I can strongly recommend the earlier Mazda 2 (2002-2007) if you can find a low mileage one (mine is an 07 reg 1.4) 45,000 on the clock.
this one looks OK
https://gb.motorlist.net/mazda-2-petrol-berkshire-P4348907bcc455925f5d3203e1be9c13b?utm_source=trovit-auto-gb&utm_source=trovit-auto-gb (https://gb.motorlist.net/mazda-2-petrol-berkshire-P4348907bcc455925f5d3203e1be9c13b?utm_source=trovit-auto-gb&utm_source=trovit-auto-gb)
My son-in-law gets a new car every three years and the last two have been petrol Qashqais. They have been very reliable. I think the only issue was a failed battery which was replaced under warranty. He's just changed this month but wanted something a little bigger and has gone for the new Kia Sportage Hybrid which is a very nice car indeed and has a huge boot.
I have a three year old petrol Citroen C3 Aircross (have had it since new) and has never gone wrong once. It's very comfortable and easy to drive with plenty of space in the boot for the dog.. Probably the best car I've had since I gave up my Merc about 18 years ago. I plan to keep this for another two or three years by which time it might be worth looking at electric.
Just like for little trains, I have a British & Commonwealth first (if practicable) purchasing policy for motor cars.
Mrs Poppingham and I have had Nissans for years, almost all Sunderland-built. Never that particular model, though. Her late father used them for his driving school as well.
They have all been totally tickety-boo and the dealer support is first class.
I had an electric 'Leaf' as a courtesy car and really enjoyed it. Acceleration like a 'G50' Matchless and a lot less noisy!
I hope you enjoy your new car and have many, many miles of trouble-free motoring.
With all good wishes.
John
Quote from: devonjames on June 12, 2022, 07:21:19 PM
My son-in-law gets a new car every three years and the last two have been petrol Qashqais. They have been very reliable. I think the only issue was a failed battery which was replaced under warranty. He's just changed this month but wanted something a little bigger and has gone for the new Kia Sportage Hybrid which is a very nice car indeed and has a huge boot.
Encouraging :hmmm: Thanks, James
I don't like Skodas and Kias because the interieurs are too "plasticy".
If I were to buy a car today I would go for a Dacia Duster, which meets your requirement for easy access and the price is at the same level as a Monty Python shrubbery.
I wouldn't want a satnav that shouts 'Ni!!' at me all the time :no:
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 12, 2022, 11:13:36 AM
In about 3 months I'll be looking buy a low mileage larger car than my Siesta and like the look of these. Anyone got opinions on them please?
Note - no diesel or electric models will be entertained :no:
what's a Siesta ?
My thoughts are:-
VW Golf
VW Golf estate
VW Golf 4motion
VW Golf Plus
VW Golf Alltrack
Unlike other contributors I thought I'd give you multiple options, no sense being narrow minded.
Over the last 20 years with the wife, and the 10+ years previous I've driven...
4 x Cavaliers, 2 x Astras, Mazda3, Focus, Corolla, Fiesta, 2 x Terrano, 3 x Grand Cherokee, 406 estate, Escort, Touraeg, Camry, 2 x Golf, X3.
If I could only ever drive one model ever again...
...Golf. Comfort, practicality, economy, service cost, driveability, handling, value, retained value.
It's a cut and shut -half Sierra, half Fiesta :)
I must admit that I agree with MJB.
VWs are great to drive and very reliable.
And just HAD TO PAY OUT £193MILLION
for emission fraud!!!!!!
Somewhat tainted their "good name"
Quote from: exmouthcraig on June 12, 2022, 10:02:21 PM
And just HAD TO PAY OUT £193MILLION
for emission fraud!!!!!!
Somewhat tainted their "good name"
Also in trouble with emissions 'misinformation', are Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, Skoda, Renault, Peugeot, etc., etc., they've all been at it.
Indeed, the only thing keeping Ford out of the court is how skint they are.
But at least they look like their clean :D
Quote from: exmouthcraig on June 12, 2022, 10:02:21 PM
And just HAD TO PAY OUT £193MILLION
for emission fraud!!!!!!
Somewhat tainted their "good name"
The devil has the best music :)
my present daily is a 2007 fiesta 1.4 DIESEL. Easily the most reliable cheapest to run car ive ever had--in 57 years of car ownership.
my late life crisis toy is an MG TF.
Photos please !
Hope it's in green or red "livery" :)
Quote from: Bob G on June 12, 2022, 02:51:46 PM
I've always hankered after a Cupra Formentor. The VW T-Roc is also a cracker (my physiotherapist drives one).
Don't know where they sit in your budget. You won't be able to afford my physiotherapist, but her car is awesome.
I had a T-Roc courtesy car while my Golf was being serviced and I hated it. My wife has a Seat Ateca, and that's far nicer IMO, albeit slightly larger.
I do rate the Golf, it's my 4th. I'm less keen on the newest model, too much touchscreen stuff, I like buttons! But the mk7 is a great car IMO.
Edit: that said, the Qashqai et al are that bit taller, and I do 'get it'. The wife's Ateca is noticeably more usable, with a deeper, squarer boot space than the Golf (admittedly mine is a 4WD one, so loses some depth), and a higher ride height, without being much physically larger.
I thought I'd add my two cents worth having recently been through this process.
I had a Swindon built Honda Civic hatch with the 1.8 litre four and manual six speed. After owning it for six years, and having built a healthy distrust for the engine gearbox combination, I decided to sell in December last year. Whatever car I decided upon had to have good rear area, with the seats down, and an engine transmission combination I could trust with the air con on and be no more than two litres in capacity.
After measuring up the length, width, and height of the Civic rear space, as I needed to fit a module or two in, it was a case of doing the homework. What annoys me most about modern car makers is they provide a volumetric figure for the car space which tends to overlook the usable space. I then undertook some homework and narrowed it down to three hatchbacks: Toyota Corolla, Mazda 3 and Subaru Impreza.
To cut a long story short, the first cab off the rank was the local Subaru dealer and after ascertaining the usable space (length and width) was superior to the Civic I took one for a test drive. The engine transmission combination was turbine smooth with brilliant safety features and a comfortable and well thought out driving position. I didn't go any further.
It arrived on the 3rd June after a five and a half month wait. Happy days! :bounce:
For me, these pseudo-off-road 'crossover' type vehicles don't make much sense. They are trying to cover multiple segments, with the result they arent really the best option for any of them... Unless you specifically need/want 4 wheel drive, I wouldn't be looking at these and certainly wouldn't touch the 2-wheel drive versions.
If it's load space you're looking for, conventional estates often have as much interior room in a smaller, more efficient overall package. Skoda Octavia is very underrated option.
If it's the higher driving position / ease of access, one of the compact people carriers e.g. Ford C-max, Golf+, is the route I'd go.
If is a 4x4 you want, then proper compact 4x4s are better options than a crossover e.g. Toyota Rav4, Landrover Freelander, Nissan X--trail
Quote from: PLD on June 12, 2022, 11:24:34 PM
For me, these pseudo-off-road 'crossover' type vehicles don't make much sense. They are trying to cover multiple segments, with the result they arent really the best option for any of them... Unless you specifically need/want 4 wheel drive, I wouldn't be looking at these and certainly wouldn't touch the 2-wheel drive versions.
If it's load space you're looking for, conventional estates often have as much interior room in a smaller, more efficient overall package. Skoda Octavia is very underrated option.
The Octavia is ~4.7m long, the Qashqai is ~4.4m? i realise the Octavia will have more bootspace, but they're certainly not smaller than a crossover.
About 4 years ago I hired a cashcow in NZ for 3 weeks. Drove it every day for at least 4 hours. On sealed roads, dirt and gravel, mud in road construction areas plus NZ's versions of sealed roads (some tar and a surface of loose gravel).
Good economy, handles well, comfortable, roomy. Only thing I didn't like was the lack of power when I put the foot down; however would be ok for city and heavy traffic.
It was an automatic as manual rental cars are hard to find in NZ and Oz, if that makes any difference in UK.
Quote from: Train Waiting on June 12, 2022, 08:45:42 PM
Just like for little trains, I have a British & Commonwealth first (if practicable) purchasing policy for motor cars.
Are mass produced motor vehicles still made in Britain?
We ditched our motor car (and most other manufacturing) a while ago. :(
Mark
I rented one a few years ago. Picked it up at Hertz Heathrow, drove it up to the Lake District, down to Winchester, back up to London and only had to fill up at the gas station in Chalk Farm before returning it to the rental facility. It was great for what we wanted, and didn't cause too much commotion on the narrow Cumbrian roads and went a pretty good distance on a tank of gas.
Quote from: Belly on June 12, 2022, 11:08:04 PM
It arrived on the 3rd June after a five and a half month wait.
There's no way I'm buying new :no: Too much money lost as soon as yer bum hits the seat :worried:
Quote from: NinOz on June 13, 2022, 12:18:37 AM
About 4 years ago I hired a cashcow in NZ for 3 weeks. Drove it every day for at least 4 hours. On sealed roads, dirt and gravel, mud in road construction areas plus NZ's versions of sealed roads (some tar and a surface of loose gravel).
Good economy, handles well, comfortable, roomy. Only thing I didn't like was the lack of power when I put the foot down; however would be ok for city and heavy traffic.
@NinOz (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2006) The petrol engines used now have turbos fitted. Not sure if that was the case 4 years ago.
Hi there,
I am not much of a car person - as long as it is comfy, gets me around reliably and has a decent radio I am happy. I am not bothered about acceleration as I drive like an old woman anyway. I just want something I am not going to have to give any attention to.
As it is, I have had three Qashqais in a row and I keep going back to them as they do what I want without fuss.
cheers
Ben A.
The deed is done :claphappy:
Had a seat and play with my mate's Qashqai this morning and liked it, albeit it's a 63 plate.
I decided I wanted top spec, low mileage used, black or grey and a decent p/x on my Fiesta.
Went to the local dealer this afternoon and there was a pearl black 69 plate 1.3 litre DIG-T TEKNA with 14000 on the clock. One good inspection and a drive later, and I pick it up next Tuesday.
Excited? Moi? :bounce:
It was never going to be anything else, was it :)
Enjoy :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Just wondering if I should wear black for any home visits now >:D ;D
Quote from: Platy767 on June 13, 2022, 01:06:05 AM
Are mass produced motor vehicles still made in Britain?
The Qashqai, Joke and Leaf for most of the world markets are all made in Sunderland, with some for the Japanese, Chinese and Russian markets also being made in those countries - although probably not the last one now.
MINI – MINI, MINI Clubman and MINI Countryman, in Cowley, Oxford
Honda – Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota – Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Burnaston, Derbyshire
Nissan – Juke, Qashqai, Note and Leaf and Infiniti Q30 in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear
Lotus – Elise, Evora and Exige in Norfolk
Aston Martin – DB9, Vantage, Rapide, Vanquish, and DB11 in Gaydon, Warwickshire
Bentley Motors – Continental, Flying Spur and Mulsanne in Crewe, Cheshire
Rolls Royce – Ghost and Wraith in Goodwood, West Sussex
Jaguar – F-Pace and XE in Solihull, and F-type, XJ, XF and XE in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham
Land Rover – Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque in Halewood, Merseyside, and Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Land Rover Defender in Solihull, West Midlands
Vauxhall – Astra at Ellesmere Port and Vivaro van in Luton
Some smaller, niche builders also prevail
My Honda Civic 1.8 VTi from the 1990s was Pirates Black, which for years I was calling Pi-rah-tees black until I was corrected. I just thought it was some weird marketing name to make it sound exotic.
I don't think Nissan has ever marketed Pearl Black as grim reaper black. Just don't undertake on motorways :)
Hondas are no longer made in Swindon. Shame.
I had a gen 9 Civic which never saw the inside of a garage except for routine serving for a GEN 10. Again a lovely smooth car that goes well. I still like a car that goes well. Both Civics could take Little Aller Junction to an exhibition with ease. I have yet to find a car capable of swallowing Dawlish Warren, its too big even for a Volvo estate.
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 14, 2022, 04:19:30 PM
MINI – MINI, MINI Clubman and MINI Countryman, in Cowley, Oxford
Honda – Civic and CR-V in Swindon
Toyota – Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Burnaston, Derbyshire
Nissan – Juke, Qashqai, Note and Leaf and Infiniti Q30 in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear
Lotus – Elise, Evora and Exige in Norfolk
Aston Martin – DB9, Vantage, Rapide, Vanquish, and DB11 in Gaydon, Warwickshire
Bentley Motors – Continental, Flying Spur and Mulsanne in Crewe, Cheshire
Rolls Royce – Ghost and Wraith in Goodwood, West Sussex
Jaguar – F-Pace and XE in Solihull, and F-type, XJ, XF and XE in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham
Land Rover – Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque in Halewood, Merseyside, and Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Land Rover Defender in Solihull, West Midlands
Vauxhall – Astra at Ellesmere Port and Vivaro van in Luton
Some smaller, niche builders also prevail
All the above are UK assembled, but owned by overseas companies... IIRC, the biggest British-owned vehicle builders are Alexander-Dennis and JCB...
Good luck trying to build a Honda in Swindon, the plant has closed down.
Duff info copied from t'interweb :-[