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Title: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 22, 2022, 12:43:53 PM
I am looking for a 'shunter' or something like. A Graham Farish Jinty would be OK but cannot find one for sale. Can anyone recommend something else? Preferably steam but diesel would be OK too.

Thanks

Brian
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: crewearpley40 on January 22, 2022, 12:53:55 PM
Try here https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/n-gauge-steam-locomotives  brian
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Newportnobby on January 22, 2022, 01:59:19 PM
Depends if you're modelling any particular location........

Southern
Terrier
M7 (new version due from Dapol very soon)

Western
Virtually any pannier
class 56xx
class 45xx
Class 14 diesel

Midland (apart from Jinty)
Std 3MT
Ivatt 2MT


North Eastern
J50 (on the go with Sonic)
Class 20 diesel

Probably the most widespread were the early small diesel shunters like the class 03, 04 and particularly the class 08
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 22, 2022, 03:16:06 PM
Are Dapol an OK company?
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: ntpntpntp on January 22, 2022, 03:21:12 PM
I assume you're looking for British N ?

As a modeller of German railways and running traditional DC one of my favourite diesel shunters is the Minitrix version of the V60 (as per my profile photo).  The original 1970s model was a bit "graunchy" but the retooled models have had flywheels for 20 years or more, very smooth and reliable.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/80/5885-030819155613.jpeg)
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: ntpntpntp on January 22, 2022, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: meddyliol on January 22, 2022, 03:16:06 PM
Are Dapol an OK company?

As always that's a matter of opinion.  Sometimes they seem to generate a little more negative comment than others, but I'm sure there are a vast majority of satisfied customers.  Remember you only tend to read the really good and really bad experiences people have with any brand.

The Terrier is a nice little model.   The original M7 was criticised for poor haulage and poor slow speed, but is being re-tooled.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Markthetog on January 22, 2022, 07:58:30 PM
Ron Lines has 2 Jintys (Jinties?  :D ) for sale at reasonable prices

https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html (https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html)
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: richmodels on January 22, 2022, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: meddyliol on January 22, 2022, 03:16:06 PM
Are Dapol an OK company?

I'd argue they have improved a lot in the last 3 years or so - certainly on the diesel and electric front

Some of the older Dapol efforts you can understand why they are noticeably cheaper than Farish equivalents
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 07:53:04 AM
Have just ordered a Dapol Maunsell Coach Set 394 Maunsell Green (3)and a Graham Farish Class 57/3 57315 Arriva Trains Wales (Trenau Arriva Cymru) Diesel Locomotive. Not a shunter maybe but at least it's got a welsh name on it. The coaches are for another train I have (steam). My only possible issue is because I am new to all of this, I should have checked first if the couplings are compatible between Dapol and Farish. Also, the coaches have the facility to have a light bar fitted which would be nice. I do not know if this only works on DCC as I (at the moment) will only be using DC.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Brian   :confusedsign:
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Markthetog on January 23, 2022, 08:00:56 AM
Brian
Yes the standard couplings are compatible and yes the Light Bars work on DC as long as the train is moving. The difference is that on DCC the lights stay on all the time.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Bealman on January 23, 2022, 08:09:01 AM
Yes, Dapol and Farish couplings are compatible. They are the Rapido coupling, which came about during the early days of commercial N gauge.

Not necessarily the best, but they are standard.

There is much info and discussion about couplings on this forum.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 08:54:50 AM
Appreciate that. If not the best what are, and are they changeable?
Quote from: Markthetog on January 23, 2022, 08:00:56 AM
Brian
Yes the standard couplings are compatible and yes the Light Bars work on DC as long as the train is moving. The difference is that on DCC the lights stay on all the time.
Thanks, might get some for my wife  :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Markthetog on January 23, 2022, 09:27:20 AM
That's a question without a definite answer! Have a look at the Coupling section of the Forum and you'll see what I mean. Yes, it's that much of a debate the subject has its own category!

Dapol supply some alternative Knuckle couplings with the set - they just clip in and out - which along with the corridor connectors produce a beautiful fixed rake of coaches. I use those between the coaches and have other couplings at either end to connect to locos etc. If your set is going to stay on the layout I'd give that a try.

Alternatively just keep the coaches standard, they work perfectly well like that.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 09:43:07 AM
Thanks Mark, didn't realise alternative couplings come with the coaches etc.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Newportnobby on January 23, 2022, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 07:53:04 AM
Have just ordered a Dapol Maunsell Coach Set 394 Maunsell Green (3)

They have an innovative pull out corridor connection system but be careful in using it as I pulled one right out and had to send it off to Dapol for repair :-[
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: emjaybee on January 23, 2022, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: Markthetog on January 22, 2022, 07:58:30 PM
Ron Lines has 2 Jintys (Jinties?  :D ) for sale at reasonable prices

https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html (https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html)

Jintii  ?
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Markthetog on January 23, 2022, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on January 23, 2022, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: Markthetog on January 22, 2022, 07:58:30 PM
Ron Lines has 2 Jintys (Jinties?  :D ) for sale at reasonable prices

https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html (https://www.ronlines.com/pre-owned.html)

Jintii  ?

:laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 23, 2022, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 07:53:04 AM
Have just ordered a Dapol Maunsell Coach Set 394 Maunsell Green (3)

They have an innovative pull out corridor connection system but be careful in using it as I pulled one right out and had to send it off to Dapol for repair :-[

OK, will take care
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Ben A on January 23, 2022, 04:24:38 PM

Hi there,

If you're looking for a shunter have you considered the recently delivered NGS Hunslet?

There is a thread here which shows some of the models, with links to videos showing the performance.

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
Don't you have to be a member of NGS? I'm not.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Ben A on January 23, 2022, 04:59:27 PM
Quote from: meddyliol on January 23, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
Don't you have to be a member of NGS? I'm not.

Hi there,

Yes, you need to join to have access to the various RTR items, kits and the bi-monthly Journal.   It's £16, and the Hunslet in any one of 15 colour schemes is £82, so the cost of joining and buying the loco is less than £100.

If you're interested here is the list of available liveries:

https://www.ngsjoin.com/hunslet-industrial-shunter-339-c.asp (https://www.ngsjoin.com/hunslet-industrial-shunter-339-c.asp)

For a Wales link here loco 6663 in February last year shunting bogie fuel tankers at Milford Haven:

https://flic.kr/p/2kD9yGr (https://flic.kr/p/2kD9yGr)

The loco is pale blue with Puma branding; model 059E would be a reasonable start to produce this variant.

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Shunter
Post by: Markthetog on January 23, 2022, 05:19:17 PM
Even if you don't want the Hunslett the NGS is well worth less than £20 a year. You get a brilliant N Gauge handbook as well as the bimonthly magazine.