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Title: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: RBE on August 25, 2021, 01:16:42 PM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/113/3312-250821131500.png) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=113080)

We are pleased to announce that Cavalex Models are producing the PGA hopper wagon in N Gauge exclusively for Rails of Sheffield.

Sold in sets of three and available to order in variety of liveries. Each wagon in each pack will feature a unique running number.

Pre-order now

https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/n-gauge-pga-hopper-wagons (https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/n-gauge-pga-hopper-wagons)

Specification Includes:

•Accurately dimensioned prototypical design

•Etched walkway, handrails and ladders

•Highly detailed underframe

•Close coupling mechanism

Liveries Available:

•Original Redland

•Redland

•Redland Large Logo

•Lafarge Aggregates

•Plain white with patch

•Plain white

Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: njee20 on August 25, 2021, 01:27:31 PM
Great news! Annoyingly I sold the JGAs and HOAs I was going to use in a mixed rake though, may have to think about that!

Your URL is dodgy, correct one is https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/n-gauge-pga-hopper-wagons

Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: RBE on August 25, 2021, 01:31:36 PM
Cheers for that, I copied it from another post and it copied the dots instead of text. Now corrected!
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Aire Valley on August 25, 2021, 01:40:50 PM
It looks like a very impressive model. I'd been hoping that Cavalex would scale down their range for a long time and it's great to see so many new models being announced this year by a wider range of producers.

Thank you Cavalex!  :thumbsup:

Tim
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: jpendle on August 25, 2021, 02:14:02 PM
That's really good news.

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: RailGooner on August 25, 2021, 03:07:41 PM
A canny move by RoS considering their exclusive 59s from Revolution.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Steven B on August 25, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
£89.95 for a pack of three (£10 deposit) and due before the end of the year too!

Rails are beginning to make a name for themselves with N Gauge exclusives.
Revolution are producing the IIA-D Drax biomass wagons for them too.

Hopefully the PGAs will sell well and we'll see Rails downsize other models from the Cavalex OO Gauge range:
Bardon PHA/JGA
TEA tank
BBA/BLA steel
KFA/PFB Warflat

Interesting times...

Steven B.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: RBE on September 21, 2021, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: Aire Valley on August 25, 2021, 01:40:50 PM
It looks like a very impressive model. I'd been hoping that Cavalex would scale down their range for a long time and it's great to see so many new models being announced this year by a wider range of producers.

Thank you Cavalex!  :thumbsup:

Tim

Our plan has always been to do all of our models in 2mm as well as 4mm. This model is the first step and if well received you can be sure that others will follow suit.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: TomE on February 27, 2022, 09:29:07 AM
I had the opportunity to take a close up look at the PGA samples at Model Rail Scotland, and was very impressed with them. They'll make for impressive rakes!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/120/672-270222092449.jpeg)

There are some more photos on the ngaugenews.com MRS N Gauge roundup article.

Tom.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on February 27, 2022, 10:32:15 AM
I bought some of these in OO :-[ when they were originally dropped in N.  They are truly excellent wagons :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Crepello on February 27, 2022, 11:34:16 AM
They look great but they're not Yeoman. When is somebody going to take the plunge?
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Bob G on February 28, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: crepello on February 27, 2022, 11:34:16 AM
They look great but they're not Yeoman. When is somebody going to take the plunge?

I would like to have some Yeoman PGA hoppers too.

And I won't be buying anything with Lafarge or Redland on it as they stitched me up on a renewables project I was trying to sell to them.
They walked away from the project leaving my firm (with me as project manager) out of pocket to a cool £50k of project development costs.
Their problem was that they needed a project IRR of 20% in year 1. Never mind me saving them £8m over a decade.
I don't trust them in business at all.

Bob
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: TomE on February 28, 2022, 12:02:47 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 28, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
And I won't be buying anything with Lafarge or Redland on it as they stitched me up on a renewables project I was trying to sell to them.

Good job Cavalex are doing plain white, and white with Lafarge logos blanked out then ;)

Tom.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Bob G on February 28, 2022, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: TomE on February 28, 2022, 12:02:47 PM
Quote from: Bob G on February 28, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
And I won't be buying anything with Lafarge or Redland on it as they stitched me up on a renewables project I was trying to sell to them.

Good job Cavalex are doing plain white, and white with Lafarge logos blanked out then ;)

Tom.

It is still the wrong design hopper!

That is the problem with PGAs. In the old days we had a Generic Farish PGA that had to do for all different users, and of course they are all subtly different (some not so subtly different).
The old Lima OO PGA (now a Hornby model) is a very good rendition of what the classic Yeoman PGA should look like.
I think it is one of Hornby's better wagons - apart from their 8-plank PO wagon "Gregory" which is absolutely excellent of course :)

Bob
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Crepello on March 05, 2022, 05:06:12 PM
I'm glad to see there's some more interest in the Yeoman PGA. In case it's not widely known, they had a large variety of diesel haulage , so they should be very sellable.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Bob G on March 05, 2022, 06:20:34 PM
Quote from: crepello on March 05, 2022, 05:06:12 PM
I'm glad to see there's some more interest in the Yeoman PGA. In case it's not widely known, they had a large variety of diesel haulage , so they should be very sellable.
I think they were just a bit too late for the 42, but I can think of the following in my BR Blue era:
37 (double headed)
52
56
59
Any others?

Bob
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Steven B on March 05, 2022, 06:42:38 PM
Class 42 Warships were vacuum brake only so wouldn't work with PGA hoppers.

You can add class 50s to the list
http://www.dawlishtrains.com/uploads/7/2/2/3/7223531/4033686_orig.jpg (http://www.dawlishtrains.com/uploads/7/2/2/3/7223531/4033686_orig.jpg)

Class 33s worked Yeoman tippler type bogie wagons, so may have also been found on hoppers.

Steven B
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: TomE on September 24, 2023, 12:14:35 PM
I had the opportunity to look over the production samples for the Cavalex PGA this weekend and have to say I think these will be up there with the best of N Gauge rolling stock, they are really quite exquisite models!

There are some photos of the models on NGN here: https://www.ngaugenews.com/post/close-up-cavalex-n-gauge-pga-hopper-wagon-production-samples

If these do well for Cavalex, and there is no reason they shouldn't, then they are very keen to produce more N Gauge which would be a very welcome development for the scale!

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/92bcba_ae01a776596f4f90a9db9f1c7f7eaa78~mv2.jpg)

Tom.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 24, 2023, 01:29:40 PM
They do look good. I had forgotten about the grey stripe which was added to improve the appearance after using terminals where the wagons are moved through the unloading point by large rubber tyred wheels which grip the vertical faces of hopper sides.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: njee20 on September 24, 2023, 04:16:58 PM
Lovely fine ladders. No use for these, but great to see, and I may pick up a couple to support Cavalex.
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: GlenEglise on September 24, 2023, 10:08:23 PM
I'm not sure if any of these would have passed north of the central belt in Scotland so I think it is a miss for me.

GE
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Spanners70 on October 22, 2023, 05:17:49 PM
Finally got my rake of 18. Lovely little wagons BUT what awful couplings. The rake constantly separate at random positions, and eveyr point they reach the wagons all derail, looks like the couplings hang too low so the lowest part of the coupling lifts the wagons as they go over the points and throws them off the rails. Not really sure how to sort the issue at all, assume I will have to use an alternative coupling and replace the lot. Anyone else received there's and had any issues with them ?
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Steven B on October 22, 2023, 05:54:06 PM
If the peg hanging down from the coupling is below rail level then it's simple enough to cut it shorter with a pair of wire cutters.

Not that you should need to....


SB
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Spanners70 on October 23, 2023, 05:34:10 PM
At £30 a wagon bit reluctant to take cutters to them...must be better solution ? Have to await a reply from cavalax via there website
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: nobby on October 28, 2023, 02:24:41 AM
Finally got to use my set of 12. Tried to change the standard couplings and found that although these are nem pockets , they dont move that freely or smoothly i can not get either my dapol    Couplings or my ridge bars to fit. I will try a few more options otherwise i will have to send them back. After waiting for years actually quite disappointed tbh , shame because the wagon is very nice
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Spanners70 on October 30, 2023, 03:01:00 PM
Surprised there's no chat about these fantastic wagons but awful couplings
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Bob G on October 30, 2023, 03:45:10 PM
They are a bit niche. Now if they had done Yeoman PGAs...
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: nobby on November 13, 2023, 02:42:12 PM
after trying a few more options for the couplings i have admitted defeat and have decided to return the wagons, i also noticed that i cannot add the pipework in the little bags to the wagons as the coupling hook for the real wagon is of to one side on all my 4 packs yet the picture on the box and the pre samples show in the correct position. something is not right here either.
and the last thing none were offered as a weathered option at pre order and rails are now offering them as weathered finish.
the actual wagon is really nice , its a shame but i wanted these to mix in and without changing the couplings i cannot use for them for what i intended.
nobby
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: Bob G on November 13, 2023, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: nobby on November 13, 2023, 02:42:12 PM...Rails are now offering them as weathered finish.

nobby

So are TMC, and they look very similar. This only goes to confirm my original belief that Rails's weathering is actually done by TMC (and good it is too).

Bob
Title: Re: Cavalex N Gauge PGA
Post by: gram on November 14, 2023, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: nobby on November 13, 2023, 02:42:12 PMi also noticed that i cannot add the pipework in the little bags to the wagons as the coupling hook for the real wagon is of to one side on all my 4 packs yet the picture on the box and the pre samples show in the correct position

I'd had mine for a few days before I noticed, but yes, same here.

And also in the pictures posted above, have they all been done like that?

Bit of a shame, but beautiful models, hope Cavalex can do more N gauge.

Graham