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Title: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 06:59:08 PM
Includes first issue of a 27 in the regrettable (in my opinion at least) two tone green 27.

https://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/9/ (https://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/9/)

https://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/11/ (https://www.dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/11/)

Both models upgraded to Next18.

Best

Scott
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
I'll be seeking a green ( :P) class 24 but have 2 powered and 1 dummy class 35.
Not bothered about DCC
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 04, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
I'll be seeking a green ( :P) class 24 but have 2 powered and 1 dummy class 35.
Not bothered about DCC

The green livery on that catalogue page isn't the new one being offered, it's this one:

https://www.hattons.co.uk/426025/heljan_2719_class_27_5380_in_br_two_tone_green_with_full_yellow_ends_weathered/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/426025/heljan_2719_class_27_5380_in_br_two_tone_green_with_full_yellow_ends_weathered/stockdetail.aspx)

I think, but I'm not at home to check, that this dates from late 60s/post steam?  To me it does t suite the locomotive but I'm happy if your mileage varies.

Best

Scott.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
Uh-oh. I really dislike the full custard dipped green version so hope Dapol do either the plain green (no panel) or small yellow panel version. I'll wait to see what Rails announce.
BR Blue started being done in 1965.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
-002 and -003 will be the standard class 27 green one with and one without a small yellow panel so you'll be fine.

Best

Scott
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
https://flic.kr/p/aRAj96

https://flic.kr/p/c6s6to

These show 5382 in two-tone and with a small panel. I don't know if or when it ever got a full panel. Only 5380 and 5382 got two-tone greened.

Best

Scott.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 09:06:48 AM
Quote from: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
-002 and -003 will be the standard class 27 green one with and one without a small yellow panel so you'll be fine.

Best

Scott

Thanks, Scott, but D5379/80/81/82/83 were all based at Bedford in 1964 so I'll be going for 2D-013-004 D5382 two tone green with SYP as it will be true to both my layouts.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: bluedepot on June 05, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
i wonder if the lights will be separately switchable? that would solve the class 27 forward marker light error.

i want a standard br blue fye no d prefix hymek but that's not on offer.  im sure i will see a second hand one anyway.


tim



Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 01:56:52 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 09:06:48 AM
Quote from: NGS-PO on June 04, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
-002 and -003 will be the standard class 27 green one with and one without a small yellow panel so you'll be fine.

Best

Scott

Thanks, Scott, but D5379/80/81/82/83 were all based at Bedford in 1964 so I'll be going for 2D-013-004 D5382 two tone green with SYP as it will be true to both my layouts.

........and ordered. £116.45 at Rails with free postage :)
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: bluedepot on June 05, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
i wonder if the lights will be separately switchable? that would solve the class 27 forward marker light error.

i want a standard br blue fye no d prefix hymek but that's not on offer.  im sure i will see a second hand one anyway.
tim

@bluedepot (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=114)
Tim - I stand to be corrected but I think Dapol never made a Hymek (green or blue) without a 'D' prefix so it will likely be finding a used one and renumbering it.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 05, 2021, 08:31:01 PM
Can I add please. I have seen these :  https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/n-gauge/diesel-locomotives/hymek (https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/n-gauge/diesel-locomotives/hymek)  plus  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133778340519?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&toolid=10050&campid=5338358731&customid=16229213666735434956212031000008005 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133778340519?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&toolid=10050&campid=5338358731&customid=16229213666735434956212031000008005)   and        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dapol-ND-084C-Hymek-Diesel-D7023-BR-Two-Tone-Green-Full-Yellow-Front-DCC-fitted-/363415488034?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=Cj0KCQjwweyFBhDvARIsAA67M711WHr6ZeEaLUUn23Q16V8kNfhQ63LKzTMwjnfsQdic6PtKqA10UE8aAiDcEALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dapol-ND-084C-Hymek-Diesel-D7023-BR-Two-Tone-Green-Full-Yellow-Front-DCC-fitted-/363415488034?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=Cj0KCQjwweyFBhDvARIsAA67M711WHr6ZeEaLUUn23Q16V8kNfhQ63LKzTMwjnfsQdic6PtKqA10UE8aAiDcEALw_wcB)                                       Hope this clarifies issues             
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 09:03:22 PM
2 of those links are for green versions, Chris.
Tim is after blue with full yellow ends e.g.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284313994140?hash=item42326f439c:g:YJIAAOSwf8Bgs9he (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284313994140?hash=item42326f439c:g:YJIAAOSwf8Bgs9he)
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 05, 2021, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 05, 2021, 09:03:22 PM
2 of those links are for green versions, Chris.
Tim is after blue with full yellow ends e.g.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284313994140?hash=item42326f439c:g:YJIAAOSwf8Bgs9he (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284313994140?hash=item42326f439c:g:YJIAAOSwf8Bgs9he)
it was just a few photos to say yes the locos had the D prefix on production Mick. I forgot about the Ebay link Tim
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: bluedepot on June 05, 2021, 11:32:03 PM
ah ok thanks.  surprised they didn't make one with no d. anyway i think in real life they just rubbed the d out or removed it somehow. I'll just look out for one in blue and then try to do that.

cheers


tim
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Steven B on June 06, 2021, 07:45:40 AM
Hymek's had cast metal numbers. When the 'D' was removed it was often just painted over.

Steven B
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: bluedepot on June 07, 2021, 06:23:24 PM
yeh ive seen a few pics with the cast metal d removed or painted out, i think ive seen some without cast numbers though...

anyway im sure i can scratch out the d with a cocktail stick and t cut or ipa if needed...


tim
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Steven B on June 08, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
The only Hymek's I've seen with the "D" removed have been in scrap yards with the other four numbers also removed.

I'd be interested to see any pictures of one in operational condition with the "D" removed rather than just painted over.

Steven B.
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: Dalek on June 09, 2021, 12:13:03 PM
Do these new versions mean just add a speaker for sound with a suitable next18 decoder, is there space for one ?

Craig
Title: Re: Dapol announce new run of Class 27 and 35 Diesels
Post by: bluedepot on June 12, 2021, 02:26:43 PM
yeh i think you are right steven, they just had the d painted over. 

some pics i found

possibly d removed

https://flic.kr/p/7hUYx7


painted out ds

https://flic.kr/p/4zxSMW


cheers


tim