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Title: HMRC scam call
Post by: guest311 on April 01, 2021, 02:22:54 PM
scam call today supposedly from HMRC re a tax fraud against my name...
recorded message with no 'dear mr xxx'

number was
07243800997 for info
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: N_GaugeModeller on April 01, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Is that the one were they threaten you with an arrest warrant if you don't press 1

I had a few of them last week, all from different spoofed numbers.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: guest311 on April 01, 2021, 04:27:49 PM
not sure, I didn't listen any further than 'this is HMRC calling about a tax fraud case against your name'....click, brrrrr

funny though, as I was writing this got another call from an 07574 number that I don't recognise so just ignored it.

trouble is with SWMBO as she is at the moment, we are getting calls from all sorts of places and numbers.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Railwaygun on April 01, 2021, 05:52:54 PM
Which has a website & email service warning of latest scams

https://campaigns.which.co.uk/scam-alert-service/
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Malc on April 01, 2021, 10:48:00 PM
If a human doesn't answer when I pick up the phone, I hang up. I have had a couple of calls on my mobile with an Asian sounding person claiming something or other. Usually if my contacts list doesn't display the name of the caller, I let it go to voicemail. However, like class37035, I was expecting a call from the hospital. I let them get as far as "are you the home owner" and then cut them off. I have been tempted to say," no, I am just burgling the house"
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Fardap on April 01, 2021, 10:54:20 PM
Had one recently pretending to be from Virgin Media and wanting to confirm I was getting the right Internet speed 'as there had been reports of problems'.
He was asking what colour the lights that were flashing on the router were, after running him around asking if it was the green or blue one and then telling him it looked white he hung up. A win in my book  :laugh:
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: PGN on April 03, 2021, 09:45:02 AM
Just for reference ... if it IS HMRC, then they DON'T announce themselves by saying "this is HMRC"! And they will ALWAYS ask to speak to YOU by name. If they don't know the name of the person they wish to speak to, then they are NOT one of Her Majesty's finest!

And "a tax fraud against your name" is meaningless gibberish.

I personally have found that by FAR the best way to deal with calls such as this is to pretend that YOU work for the organisation that THEY are pretending to work for. They just can't cope with that. The last time I had one of these calls, it went something like this:

"Hello, I'm calling from [whatever organisation], how are you today?"

"I'm a little improved, thank you, but I'm still not going to be fit to return to work for another couple of weeks, so I'm afraid Martin's just going to have to do the spreadsheets himself this month. If he needs a bit of help then Shelley is pretty good with stuff like that ..."

And they hung up on me!
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Newportnobby on April 03, 2021, 10:01:43 AM
Caller I.D. is a wonderful thing but if you're expecting a call from a hospital then the benefit is negated. Usually if I don't recognise the number I let it go to voicemail, especially if it shows 'International'. Knowing my luck, though, I'll miss a call from that Nigerian banker saying I'm owed millions ::)
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Bealman on April 03, 2021, 10:19:00 AM
I just don't answer a number I do not know, with the exception being if it's got the local phone code in front of it.

I'm even reluctant to that, but usually I'm glad I did cos it's me blood nurse  ;)

I disabled voicemail. My reasoning being they have my number, if they can't get me in person, they will send a text, which often happens, then I will respond to that.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Malc on April 03, 2021, 11:12:51 AM
I've said this before, but worth a punt. I was working from home and got a call from a lady asking if I'd had an accident at work. I told her I had and she got all excited. She asked me what had I done. I said that I'd just gone home and changed my underpants. She hung up.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: dannyboy on April 03, 2021, 11:49:27 AM
When we had the landline, I used to say something on the lines of, "just a second, the security company I work for are developing a new tracing system, I'll know where you are in a couple .......". For some reason, the line went dead then!
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: woodbury22uk on April 03, 2021, 11:58:13 AM
When I am confident it is a scam call - caller ID says International but the number is local - my script is:- "Thank you for your generous donation. To donate again, hang up within the next five seconds. To amend your donation, press 1 and wait to be connected to an operator".

Sees them off every time.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: martyn on April 03, 2021, 12:25:28 PM
I've just had an email to say my car is not taxed-funny, it's paid until the end of this year......

The English is poor, and is trying to suggest that there's not enough money in my debit account, so please can they have my credit card details.

The click on weblink is rather long, but ends in telenet.be

Martyn



Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: PLD on April 03, 2021, 02:29:35 PM
New variation on the theme received yesterday.
"You has failed to provide the concrete details for your bank accounts on the UK census form. Please complete and return the attached form immediately to [... ... .tk] otherwise we will infuse a US$1000 fine."

Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: dannyboy on April 03, 2021, 02:38:49 PM
I take it you told them one part cement to two parts sand?

(Although I know you did not actually reply  ;)).

Actually, that has just given me an idea .....

Dear Mr PLD,
It does a pears that yuo have not answerd the other correzpondenze. Pleeze replie at your early in the morning toilet with the wanted bank details. Failure to do so will leave us with no option.
Yours faithcerly.
Con.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: PLD on April 03, 2021, 02:50:52 PM
 :D actually, David, I sent them you bank details. That'll confuse them... Hope that was ok... ;)   :wave:
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: dannyboy on April 03, 2021, 02:57:17 PM
Hopefully it was the details for a pre-paid card I was given that has about 16 cent left on it.  :)
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Newportnobby on April 03, 2021, 03:49:36 PM
Most of us can see through the more pathetic attempts to obtain personal details but there are those who don't, and it only takes a few of them to make the whole process worth while for these oxygen thieves.
I pride myself on being quite sensible but, even so, I was scammed by a cowboy builder 5 years ago along with several others. With all of us and the Trading Standards we got him banged up at Her Maj's Pleasure for 4 years and got a small amount of money back.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Malc on April 05, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Judging by the grammar and spelling on most of the scams, I reckon they are done by 15 year old lads with limited education, with their "Scam attempts for Beginners " book by their side.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: PaulCheffus on April 05, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 05, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Judging by the grammar and spelling on most of the scams, I reckon they are done by 15 year old lads with limited education, with their "Scam attempts for Beginners " book by their side.

Hi

The reason for the bad grammar and spelling mistakes is to weed out those people who are not as gullible. Scammers don't like having to put in too much effort.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Southerngooner on April 06, 2021, 08:32:17 AM
As well as the obvious bad grammar and spelling all the calls or messages we receive are from mobile phone numbers, not something I would expect a UK government department to use. We just ignore every unknown number and delete immediately any message from a mobile number we don't know. If it was a real message then they would call back....

Dave
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Bigmac on April 06, 2021, 01:14:54 PM
the only landline calls i get is "talk talk" ( which it isnt) the gist of which is i will be having my internet cut off within 24 hours--but i need to talk to the manager...

i wonder if these indian ladies making the calls do think they work for talk talk ?
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: chrism on April 06, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Southerngooner on April 06, 2021, 08:32:17 AM
As well as the obvious bad grammar and spelling all the calls or messages we receive are from mobile phone numbers,

Some of the sneaky so and so's (more accurate expletives are available but would overload the swear filter) have started presenting a landline number local to their victim, to try and get a better chance of the call not being ignored.
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: Newportnobby on April 06, 2021, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Bigmac on April 06, 2021, 01:14:54 PM
i wonder if these indian ladies making the calls do think they work for talk talk ?

Maybe you misheard and they work for tuk tuk
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: jpendle on April 06, 2021, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 05, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Judging by the grammar and spelling on most of the scams, I reckon they are done by 15 year old lads with limited education, with their "Scam attempts for Beginners " book by their side.

According to the fount of all knowledge that is QI.  :D

The bad grammar is quite deliberate, it weeds out all those people who are unlikely to fall for the scam.

Regards,

John P
Title: Re: HMRC scam call
Post by: jpendle on April 06, 2021, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on April 05, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 05, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Judging by the grammar and spelling on most of the scams, I reckon they are done by 15 year old lads with limited education, with their "Scam attempts for Beginners " book by their side.

Hi

The reason for the bad grammar and spelling mistakes is to weed out those people who are not as gullible. Scammers don't like having to put in too much effort.

Cheers

Paul

Beat me to it.

John P