Hi,
Looking to detail the interiors of my mk1 br blue corridor and open coaches. Anyone know the appropriate interior colours for modelling mid 1980s first and second class? I'm finding photos online rather confusing?
Thanks v much,
Henry
Henry.check these https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149094-br-mk1-coach-interiors/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149094-br-mk1-coach-interiors/) and https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:British_Rail_Mk1_coach_interiors (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:British_Rail_Mk1_coach_interiors) the first class antimacassars ( cloth coverings ) at head rest were a giveaway. Keep asking questions
I would think the second class moquette would be blue (as for non air-con Mk2s) or Trojan pattern grey depending when the coach was overhauled.
The only Mk1 based stock I can recall with certainty (I was only a kid) was the class 304 which had Trojan.
Correct about the 304 EMU. This may help https://modelrailwaylayoutsplans.com/creating-realistic-interiors-for-your-carriages/ Other than seat covering material, wood veneer in 1st class, or plastic in 2nd - I remember from my youth
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:British_Rail_Mk1_coach_interiors#/media/File%3ABritish_Railways_Mark_1_RMB_1869_Interior.JPG
That's the blue scheme I had in mind. That is probably what I would go for.
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:British_Rail_Mk1_coach_interiors#/media/File%3AInside_the_carriages_of_the_Mid_Hants_Railway_(2982725158).jpg
And that's the Trojan version for a banger.
Easily created from scrap cloth material. A female relative likes sewing etc and I ask for scraps and glue once cut. Then the orbs used for rail grime and plasticard offcuts have their uses. A good source is https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/23882-realistic-coach-interiors/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/23882-realistic-coach-interiors/) and https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149094-br-mk1-coach-interiors/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/149094-br-mk1-coach-interiors/) plus Parkin , br mk 1s books here https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/british-railways-mark-1-coaches/author/parkin-keith/ (https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/british-railways-mark-1-coaches/author/parkin-keith/) which are a minefield of information
The carriage interior colours were not always the same for either class. For the blue/grey livery, Bournemouth blue was the most common moquette for the interior, as in this picture (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Railways_Mark_1_BSK_35448_1.JPG) and this picture (https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/mk1/4824_int_davec_1jul07h.jpg), but there were still a few carriages with the trojan (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mark_1_Tourist_Standard_Open.JPG) moquette as can just about be seen here:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7434/27410835663_3327cc7c47_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HLcGsT)PT and 50033 Exeter SD (https://flic.kr/p/HLcGsT) by Adrian Hancock (https://www.flickr.com/photos/127526726@N06/), on Flickr
Bournemouth blue is difficult to represent accurately in N gauge as it is a very fine chequered pattern of blues and greens; without some very serious technology, it is not possible actually to represent this on the seats. What I do is to use a turquoise colour to take the average of the blues/greens (which, as you will see, mostly favour blues): this (https://www.emodels.co.uk/ak-interactive-17ml-figure-acrylic-turquoise-3068.html) is the paint colour that I use. This is what it looks like in use:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49892744107_5095ae80f7_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j1RmzZ)Carriage interior paint (https://flic.kr/p/2j1RmzZ) by James Petts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14730981@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49892429481_bf2c49b503_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j1PK4p)Carriage interior paint (https://flic.kr/p/2j1PK4p) by James Petts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14730981@N08/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49895761037_04e792a20e_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2j27Pq2)Carriage lighting (https://flic.kr/p/2j27Pq2) by James Petts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/14730981@N08/), on Flickr
However, an alternative blue colour scheme, this (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Railways_Mark_1_RMB_1869_Interior.JPG) large chequer pattern blue, which has less green in it, was also used on some carriages. I have not yet worked out a suitable colour for this.
First class was often the dark grey and mid grey chequer pattern shown here (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:First_Class_Seating_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1416621.jpg), which should be able to be represented by a dark-ish grey paint (using the same averaging technique as with the turquoise).
Some might have been an orange colour as shown in this (http://citytransport.info/Compartment.htm) mark 2 carriage, but I do not have any confirmed sources showing that this moquette was applied to blue/grey mk. 1 carriages.
OK Folks, lets be realistic here. In N Gauge will it really look different from a distance?
I am all for authenticity, to a degree!
Everyone to their own of course!
GE
Quote from: GlenEglise on December 24, 2020, 01:50:37 AM
OK Folks, lets be realistic here. In N Gauge will it really look different from a distance?
I am all for authenticity, to a degree!
Everyone to their own of course!
GE
Probably not from a distance - but some of us like looking at our models from close quarters.
Have you tried Parkin's book on the Mark 1? There are few interior pictures both black and white and colour.