does anyone else use this site to see what is around up there ?
we often have Chinooks, Pumas and Apaches over here as we are on a low flying route, and occasionally have Hercs and Atlas, though not as often as we used to.
when I bring up flightradar24, it does not usually show any trace of these, although it did one day show a Puma, so I assume that tactical a/c and rotors do not show.
however this morning I clicked on a rotor in the Selsey area which came up as 'no callsign' but the data panel showed it as an RAF Chinook ZH892, at between 900 and 1100 ft and speeds between 68 and 150 kts.
it then disappeared off the plot in the Winchester area, supposedly at 1100ft and 150 kts heading north.
any suggestions / info anyone can supply would be appreciated.
The data in Flightradar is from the Secondary Surveillance Radar system and is dependant on the airplane/helicopter being in radar visibility, having the SSR equipment in the aircraft turned on and the aircraft SSR equipment enabled to transmit data to the SSR ground equipment.
Tony
Thanks for the info @gawain (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=373) . I wondered where they got the info from. I assumed military flights had their transponders off most of the time to avoid detection.
I'm on a flight path into/out of RAF Coningsby and use Flightradar quite a bit but their Typhoons and American visiting jets never show up, neither do other military aircraft as far as I can tell.
Mind you who needs Flightradar when you can hear them coming and sometimes reach up and touch them as they fly directly over our house. Well, it seems like that sometimes. :D
one sunday I checked Brize, and found an A400 taking off, and being bored I tracked it, off and on, all the way to Copenhagen.
I've also found various a/c either heading Brize - Akrotiri or vice versa.
I assume these flights have their transponders on as they are in the normal flight corridors.
Quote from: class37025 on November 03, 2020, 11:26:04 AM
does anyone else use this site to see what is around up there ?
Yes, I live in the west of Tokyo which (I found out a couple of years ago) is on the boundary of a large swathe of airspace in central Japan which is controlled by the US military, which means we get a fair bit of military traffic flying more-or-less directly overhead at times (particularly, it seems, when Rocketman Kim is being uppity). Most of it doesn't show up, what does are mainly transport flights (Hercules and the like if memory serves correctly) and what I suspect are commercial airliners flying troop and military freight transport.
I am also very sure we had the Trumpocopter fly over us when he was visiting Japan, and that certainly didn't show up.
Quote from: Malc on November 03, 2020, 11:59:49 AM
Thanks for the info @gawain (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=373) . I wondered where they got the info from. I assumed military flights had their transponders off most of the time to avoid detection.
also Hotel 900 does not show up here, thought the air ambulance does.
I'm not sure (haven't checked recently) but when I first started using this website a few years ago, it would only show when a particular make of aircraft transponder was being received. I presume by now that the site now also tracks transponders of different makes.
I don't use it very much, but a couple of years ago, I heard a multi-engine prop plane passing overhead; the site indicated it was a Dakota, and the the track started in Dublin, and I followed it on and off until the plane landed in Hannover.
It sometimes shows things like warbirds flying over Duxford, but not all preserved military aircraft appear to have the transponder; I've seen a Spitfire, plus others, flying in sight of me, but no corresponding track on the website.
Aircraft such as Apache Longbows, and occasional Hercules, which fly near me on training don't show.
martyn
I quite like having the app on my phone purely for a novelty
We need a rail one, "Freightradar24" :D
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN :thumbsup:
Chinook just passed over the fields at sod all feet ,
checked and no transponder showing on flightradar :'(
Hercs used to come over at the same sort of height, duck if in fields with HB, but now I suppose they are using their new simulator, cheaper.
that's what the bean counters like. :veryangry:
Quote from: gavin_t on November 03, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
I quite like having the app on my phone purely for a novelty
We need a rail one, "Freightradar24" :D
have you used realtimetrains ?
down here all we get mostly are electric slugs, but it does show the RHTT trains out of Tonbridge.
I have the app and usually have a look at it when there is a helicopter flying over our house. It is normally the Coastguard, which quite often take medical cases to Sligo Hospital. I did once check the route of a flight I had taken from Liverpool to Knock Airport and found that it had flown almost directly over my house.
Looking at the moment at my local area and there's an RAF Hawk trainer whizzing around the Lincolnshire coast, out of Leeds according to the track.
Trust me to say earlier I never see military stuff on FR! :-[
It's one its way back north now after making many circuits over the Donna Nook shooting ranges.
got it, though from the icon I was expecting a Typhoon :-[
Yes, that's what I was expecting. On its way back to its base at Leeming Bar, from whence it came.
wonder what the BLOCKED is over Spalding Moor
Quote from: daffy on November 03, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
I'm on a flight path into/out of RAF Coningsby and use Flightradar quite a bit but their Typhoons and American visiting jets never show up, neither do other military aircraft as far as I can tell.
Mind you who needs Flightradar when you can hear them coming and sometimes reach up and touch them as they fly directly over our house. Well, it seems like that sometimes. :D
Hi
A couple of years ago I got my own airshow on my birthday from the Typhoons as they were on route to Donna Nook. During May we had a pair of USMC Ospreys extremely low over the house it was a fantastic sight.
Cheers
Paul
seems to have departed from BREIGHTON airfield ?
I have just had a look at the app and there is not much happening over Ireland. However, an Aer Lingus flight has just left Dublin for Heathrow and its registration is EI-DER. It is still going up, but presumably, it will be down soon. ;D
Addit: When it does come down, you might have to duck. :smiley-laughing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breighton_Aerodrome
Another RAF Hawk just south of Anglesey, probably from Valley?
also check
https://www.flightradar24.com/TARTN29/25f0ee43 (https://www.flightradar24.com/TARTN29/25f0ee43)
near KETTLEWELL.
great camo scheme :smiley-laughing:
Typhoon https://www.flightradar24.com/NIGHTM22/25f19af0 (https://www.flightradar24.com/NIGHTM22/25f19af0) off Scarborough hdg sth
Quote from: class37025 on November 03, 2020, 03:46:32 PM
also check
https://www.flightradar24.com/TARTN29/25f0ee43 (https://www.flightradar24.com/TARTN29/25f0ee43)
near KETTLEWELL.
great camo scheme :smiley-laughing:
That's the Boris Taxi, at least when on its days off from refuelling Typhoons.
https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/vip-raf-voyager-returns-to-operational-duties/ (https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/vip-raf-voyager-returns-to-operational-duties/)
Quote from: class37025 on November 03, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
Typhoon https://www.flightradar24.com/NIGHTM22/25f19af0 (https://www.flightradar24.com/NIGHTM22/25f19af0) off Scarborough hdg sth
That'll be heading back to Coningsby and just passing me right now!
The first Hawk, Pirat27 is back on the ground at Leeming, with another, Pirat107 having just taken off from there.
Now I better get on with my housework. :)
USAF KC-135 out of Mildenhall
https://www.flightradar24.com/QID22/25f1b761 (https://www.flightradar24.com/QID22/25f1b761)
Our house is under the approach to Sydney Kingsford Smith Airport, and I often use Flightradar24 to confirm the ID of aircraft overhead. Now that we in Australia are in splendid isolation, the traffic is down by 90%! Previously it would only show larger aircraft, I suspect to avoid too much clutter on the display. With so few planes about at present, it now seems to display even light aircraft. Most of the big aircraft we do see are freighters. :wave:
It often shows multiple Hawks out of Valley
I have the app and use it to see what's over the house. However it's not always needed as the other day an Apache was so low (and loud) I could count the weapons on rack.
Mini Skyline was thrilled.
The only thing that annoys me sometimes with the app is the lag / random manoeuvres the aircraft can do. Seems to impact flights on approach to Bristol International quite often. I know it can get blowy down there, but 3000ft fluctuations and suddenly being over central Bristol are a bit extreme!
Skyline2uk
I only have the free version of Flightradar24 and it really makes me laugh sometimes one day a plane was flying at 0 M P H at 3000ft and then another time one was doing 400 M P H at 0 feet I know they are prety fast on take off but not that fast .
I did follow the last two BA 747 s from take off to landing ,one did a circuit of Heathrow and the one that went to Fairford circled Brize Norton about six or seven times before landing .
But I think the old version was much better than the latest one because they want you to,pay for the upgraded one .
Bob Tidbury
I too only use the free version which I agree has deteriorated in its usability. Only last year I had very slow internet through the old phone lines (at best 4Mbps) but could get reasonable FR24 usage. Now I have fast fibre I have slower and erratic FR24.
Almost certainly down to 'improvements' in what it shows and an increase in advertising.
I must admit I did think of subscribing, but with the free version so poor these days, I decided not to pay.
you'd think that they would want to do a good, but limited, free version to get you to pay for the full version, but seems not.
Quote from: class37025 on November 03, 2020, 02:25:02 PM
Quote from: gavin_t on November 03, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
I quite like having the app on my phone purely for a novelty
We need a rail one, "Freightradar24" :D
have you used realtimetrains ?
down here all we get mostly are electric slugs, but it does show the RHTT trains out of Tonbridge.
Yes that is my go to. Although an app with a rail map that you could follow the trains on in real time would be quite cool :D
Although unless all the locos get a GPS tracker I doubt its too feasible. although the data that real time trains uses could show a staggered movement as the train triggers its points.
I have a son serving at RAF Boulmer. Next time I speak to him if you want, I can put any of your questions forward regarding why military aircraft are not showing on the app.
40 years ago we used to follow flights from heathrow via there radio transmission,first on vhf until they turned left around daventry and then on hf as far as conditions allowed.
Quote from: Mr Sprue on November 04, 2020, 05:46:30 PM
I have a son serving at RAF Boulmer. Next time I speak to him if you want, I can put any of your questions forward regarding why military aircraft are not showing on the app.
I suspect he'll tell you (assuming he's allowed to :-X ) that civilian traffic control radars don't work off skin paints as they'd require too much interpretation, but off transponder returns. Military only have these on when in congested/civilian-controlled airspace, otherwise they "strangle the parrot".
Jon
Free radar have an app that often shows military aircraft
Cheers, Timmo
Quote from: Jon898 on November 04, 2020, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Mr Sprue on November 04, 2020, 05:46:30 PM
I have a son serving at RAF Boulmer. Next time I speak to him if you want, I can put any of your questions forward regarding why military aircraft are not showing on the app.
I suspect he'll tell you (assuming he's allowed to :-X ) that civilian traffic control radars don't work off skin paints as they'd require too much interpretation, but off transponder returns. Military only have these on when in congested/civilian-controlled airspace, otherwise they "strangle the parrot".
Jon
His role is Air Space Battle Management
(or something like that) Apart from monitoring whats going on around the globe, they also keep an eye on every aircraft that enters UK airspace!
Quote from: pape_timmo on November 05, 2020, 01:58:22 AM
Free radar have an app that often shows military aircraft
Cheers, Timmo
just had a quick look at that, and it looks good.
particularly like the capability to click on an airfield, say Brize, and then look at recent arrivals / departures.
next time the boys are over, I'll deffo check to see if they show on here.
many thanks.
just looked at Odiham, and a chinook is up and heading southwest in the Bournemouth direction.
showing as a dotted white line [ ?transponder off? ] until 1500 ft, then a solid red line.
I'm guessing that when they come over here, at 'duck, its a chinook coming' feet, they will not show, but it will be interesting to check next time one is over.
certainly looks better than the current free flightradar24
Quote from: gavin_t on November 04, 2020, 05:39:59 PM
Quote from: class37025 on November 03, 2020, 02:25:02 PM
Quote from: gavin_t on November 03, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
I quite like having the app on my phone purely for a novelty
We need a rail one, "Freightradar24" :D
have you used realtimetrains ?
down here all we get mostly are electric slugs, but it does show the RHTT trains out of Tonbridge.
Yes that is my go to. Although an app with a rail map that you could follow the trains on in real time would be quite cool :D
Although unless all the locos get a GPS tracker I doubt its too feasible. although the data that real time trains uses could show a staggered movement as the train triggers its points.
Off topic but try https://signalmaps.co.uk/ (https://signalmaps.co.uk/) (not complete, but the range of maps available is under the Select Line menu option), or https://www.opentraintimes.com/ (https://www.opentraintimes.com/) which I think is more comprehensive but also not complete. Both show the position of the train on track diagrams based on the same data that RTT uses, and most of the time you can click on the headcode and it'll pull up the diagram (OpentTrainTimes does it within it's own site, SignalMaps pulls up the RTT).
Mostly passenger trains, but have you tried Raildar?
Overlay onto Google maps:
http://raildar.co.uk/radar.html (http://raildar.co.uk/radar.html)
Track plan based complete with signaling:
http://raildar.co.uk/map/MKC (http://raildar.co.uk/map/MKC)
Living under UL9 airway, for aircraft I use Planeplotter which is a one off payment, if you dont have a ground station to input data into the system you can opt to pay an annual fee to get the mil and light aircraft. I also use Planefinder on my tablet and phone for a small one off payment which gives some data Planeplotter does not give and vice versa.
Also being next to the South Wales main line I use Real Time Trains to see what is running and Tracksy.uk to track the ones I am interesred in.
Geoff
A400 ZM405 appears to be doing circuits at Brize at the moment.
callsign ASCOT484
not doing touch and go, powering on again at about 125 ft by the look of it.
love this callsign ..
YODA2 it is puma ZJ955 now passing Eastleach Turville at 1500 ft.
may the force be with them :)
Hi folks,
Try this website too.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
Cheers, Timmo
many thanks for that.
Thanks @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311), living not far from Bournmouth (Hurn as was) we've had a lot of strangers overhead in recent weeks and this has enabled me to identify some of them including a Maltese registered Airbus in NHS colours which has presumably been ferrying PPE equipment.
My son is doing a shift at RAF Scampton this week. Last time I was there, there were Vulcans parked up. Great sight in the control tower watching one doing a touch and go.....Awesome sight seeing the afterburners lit up!
I guess the only flights Flightradar24 will pick up now will be the red arrows and a few trainers! :(
when I was there, the most exciting sight was when we had a TACEVAL, four QRA Vulcans streaming off the QRA pan and straight into the air, followed as quickly as possible by every other airframe that could be made airworthy.
the QRA scramble was not so much heard as felt.
don't think anything could beat that sight / sound.
RAF Coningsby Just down the road has the fighters now.. I remember that being almost a redundant airfield once!
An old thread, but useful.........
Just watched the Lancaster on Flight radar, and then it flew directly overhead about 350'.
What a sight and sound........the jets are forming up about ten miles inland from me.
Martyn
Now the website has timed me out........ :(
Martyn
Quote from: martyn on June 02, 2022, 12:55:10 PM
Now the website has timed me out........ :(
Martyn
Yes, it (FR) does time out after a while. I believe I saw the Lancaster (well - it had 4 propellers and looked like a WW2 bomber...) pass over Walsall at about 14:00 today - stunning!
@KevTheBusDriver (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=8908)
Yep, out of interest I was following it today, it went to the Midlands Air show.
FR never used to time out, a couple of years ago I followed a Dakota from East Anglia to Kleve, Germany.
I don't look at it very often, but I live close to Stansted flight paths (though they are still high, thankfully), and get our fair share of RAF and Army flying as well.
Also, for major Royal flypasts, the jets form up near Ipswich then more or less follow the railway line to London, and I can see them from a distance
Martyn
Watch it daily, as I live under a Heathrow flightpath.
Went to a local park Thursday and witnessed the final Heathrow take offs pre flypast, a couple of 380s... and tracked the jet forming up over the north sea . Didn't get the Lanc but the Hercules's came straight over and the two beasts (the C17 and Atlas) flew not too far off