From the Dapol Collectors' publication:
Maunsel High Window Coaches - Due in Stock Soon
DVT - Artwork Underway
MK3 Sleepers - Awaiting Decorated Samples
Class 66 - Artwork Underway
HST - Artwork Underway, phased release
HST-P - Due in Stock Soon
Class 50 - Artwork Review
57xx - Artwork Underway
M7 - CAD Stage
BOB/WC - R&D Stage moving to CAD soon
Dogfish - Artwork Underway
Class 142 - Artwork Underway
HIA - Artwork Underway
Best
Scott
Thanks for the update Scott.
Pleased to see M7 progressing.
Shocked (although maybe not) at BoB/WC as the catalogue (online dated September 19) says at CAD stage and expected in shops late 2020. Even allowing for Covid how has this mythical product has gone backwards yet again!
Pleasing to see though the high window stock is on track for arrival soon.
Also noted from their website more A1, A3 and A4 models arriving soon.
Graham
Humph, not even a mention of the 59.
So, either Revolution take the plunge or I start working out which body parts I can live without and try and find a CJM version.
Anybody wanna by a kidney?
Skyline2uk
HIA? That's a re-release surely, why is there any livery consideration?
The 59 has never been back in production surely? It was mooted years ago, then cancelled, there's never been a suggestion it's back on the table.
You could hack up/pretend a 66 is a 59. Not so good for a 59/0, but the body is basically the same for a 59/1 or 59/2. I keep considering printing a replacement solebar and bogie frames for a Farish 66. Still leaves the exhaust silencer, but that may be a step too far!
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
You could hack up/pretend a 66 is a 59. Not so good for a 59/0, but the body is basically the same for a 59/1 or 59/2. I keep considering printing a replacement solebar and bogie frames for a Farish 66. Still leaves the exhaust silencer, but that may be a step too far!
Hi
Grahame Hedges did this a few years ago and I think it was published in the magazine he used to write (not the NGS journal). If I get chance over the weekend I'll have a look as I have all the magazines upstairs.
Cheers
Paul
So is "artwork review" after or before "artwork underway"? I'm looking forward to some more 142s and a West Country, eventually.
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
HIA? That's a re-release surely, why is there any livery consideration?
The 59 has never been back in production surely? It was mooted years ago, then cancelled, there's never been a suggestion it's back on the table.
You could hack up/pretend a 66 is a 59. Not so good for a 59/0, but the body is basically the same for a 59/1 or 59/2. I keep considering printing a replacement solebar and bogie frames for a Farish 66. Still leaves the exhaust silencer, but that may be a step too far!
I am consistently told by Joel (at TINGs and Warley, when they happened) that the 59 is still a goer.
Clearly it's so far back up the pipe this statement is more like a land grab
The article on converting a 66 to a 59 was published recently in the NGS. The excercise intrigued me but relies on CJM bogie frames, so unless somebody does 3D print some, this is a non starter for me.
Skyline2uk
If only there was someone here with a 3D printer who's mentioned doing just that... :hmmm: ;)
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 01:43:38 PM
If only there was someone here with a 3D printer who's mentioned doing just that... :hmmm: ;)
Was your statement that put it in mind...
Afraid I am not going to add the conversion to my project list just yet. Definitely needs an air brush to do it justice anyway.
Skyline2uk
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
HIA? That's a re-release surely, why is there any livery consideration?
Different running numbers, weathering, graffiti?
John P
Quote from: Skyline2uk on August 21, 2020, 11:13:08 AM
Humph, not even a mention of the 59.
So, either Revolution take the plunge or I start working out which body parts I can live without and try and find a CJM version.
Anybody wanna by a kidney?
Skyline2uk
Last I heard Dapol were saying 2022 for the 59..
Hope that helps!
Cheers
Mark
Quote from: jpendle on August 21, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
HIA? That's a re-release surely, why is there any livery consideration?
Different running numbers, weathering, graffiti?
Not seen any suggestion of that, but maybe. Perhaps I'm giving them too much credit to assume they'd actually check livery variations by individual wagon running numbers!
Quote from: scruff on August 21, 2020, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on August 21, 2020, 11:13:08 AM
Humph, not even a mention of the 59.
So, either Revolution take the plunge or I start working out which body parts I can live without and try and find a CJM version.
Anybody wanna by a kidney?
Skyline2uk
Last I heard Dapol were saying 2022 for the 59..
Hope that helps!
Cheers
Mark
If true helps my wallet and my organs (not least because SHMBO won't threaten bits of me when I buy two, instantly).
Skyline2uk
So the BoB/WC isn't even in CAD. That suggests we won't see it before 2022 at the earliest. How very disappointing.
Quote from: longbow on August 21, 2020, 09:34:41 PM
So the BoB/WC isn't even in CAD. That suggests we won't see it before 2022 at the earliest. How very disappointing.
By the time we see it (or more likely if we see it) I won't remember what it looked like and what it was for ::) :unimpressed: :censored:
I just bought plates and NBrass bogie parts to convert Farish's 34051 Winston Churchill to 34056 Croydon - one of the last to carry early crest and a streamlined tender (1959).
I'm working on the basis that I'm 60 next month and I wont see this loco hit the rails in my lifetime. Always best to have a positive outlook :)
Anything better is a bonus.
Bob
It's hard to see how a model of the UK's best preserved loco class could need almost a decade of "research". Or perhaps they still haven't figured out how to put a coreless motor into one of the UK's most accommodating steam body shapes, or a sound enclosure into one of the biggest tenders.
interesting mention that the M7 is in CAD, does this mean they are producing one that will actually run properly rather than just re-runs of the earlier, superb looking but terrible running model?
Does this also mean they will be returning to redo both versions of the 45xx and the Ivatt T as well?
best wishes and hopeful
Simon
IIRC the M7 is getting a chassis upgrade, which should include at minimum DCC readiness and hopefully better wheels and motor and improved traction. No word on whether other early models will be upgraded, but that seems a reasonable expectation as it's a lot cheaper and quicker than tooling a completely new model.
Apparently their 9F is on their list for a rerun as well, unfortunately not anytime soon :(
NGM
I would infer that Dapol's N Gauge product development budget is very limited, hence the emphasis on re-runs and upgrades rather than new tooling.
Quote from: Bob G on August 21, 2020, 10:58:04 PM
I'm working on the basis that I'm 60 next month and I wont see this loco hit the rails in my lifetime. Always best to have a positive outlook :)
Steady on, Bob. I'm 67, and have left instructions in my will that if this damned model ever turns up and I'm gone, it gets burnt and I'll collect it 'downstairs'.
Serves me right for pre ordering 'Spitfire'. I'm sure Angela Merkel has a hand in its delay :uneasy:
Quote from: longbow on August 22, 2020, 09:02:15 AM
I would infer that Dapol's N Gauge product development budget is very limited, hence the emphasis on re-runs and upgrades rather than new tooling.
My conclusion too, but at least they are continuing to develop models...slowly...
I reckon the Ivatt 2MT Tank is a really strong candidate for a DCC ready chassis upgrade to modern standards, there's not a lot wrong with the body at all.
Roy
Quote from: PaulCheffus on August 21, 2020, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: njee20 on August 21, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
You could hack up/pretend a 66 is a 59. Not so good for a 59/0, but the body is basically the same for a 59/1 or 59/2. I keep considering printing a replacement solebar and bogie frames for a Farish 66. Still leaves the exhaust silencer, but that may be a step too far!
Hi
Grahame Hedges did this a few years ago and I think it was published in the magazine he used to write (not the NGS journal). If I get chance over the weekend I'll have a look as I have all the magazines upstairs.
Cheers
Paul
Hi
Having now had a look it was in the NGS journal Dec/Jan 2015.
Cheers
Paul