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Title: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: guest311 on July 25, 2020, 08:25:43 PM
anyone up for 3D printing this turret / guns ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz

problem is I'd only be looking for maybe x 10 turrets.

a. is it possible ?
b. what would be the cost per turret ?
c. would it be worthwhile for such a small run ?

apologies, required in 20mm scale  :-[
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: njee20 on July 25, 2020, 11:09:05 PM
Have you got some other pictures/drawings? How big are we talking in 20mm? That sounds quite big  :hmmm:

I can potentially have a go!
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: Railwaygun on July 25, 2020, 11:15:04 PM
there was an N gauge version produced as a special for the

mini japanese Tank sets

its actually a ball turret in a ring.

i will dig out some pics to give you an idea

do you have any drawings yet?

or

Do a Google search for kugelblitz turret and click on images if you havent done so yet. there are some 1/35 kits that could be scaled up?

Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: javlinfaw7 on July 26, 2020, 01:24:13 AM
S and S  have a turret.

https://sandsmodels.com/product/pz4-kugelblitz-turret-conversion-kit/
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: emjaybee on July 26, 2020, 08:06:19 AM
Question:

If they only made 5, why do you need 10?
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: chrism on July 26, 2020, 08:21:07 AM
Quote from: emjaybee on July 26, 2020, 08:06:19 AM
Question:

If they only made 5, why do you need 10?

Ssh. You're not supposed to ask that  :D

Although I had been wondering the same  ;)
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 26, 2020, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: class37025 on July 25, 2020, 08:25:43 PM
apologies, required in 20mm scale  :-[

Is that a military modelling "scale", ie. 20mm for the height of an average soldier (say 6 foot ?),  or a model railway "scale" eg. 20mm = 1 foot? Quite a difference! (To be honest both are ridiculous ways of expressing a scale)

Better to express as a proper scale ratio eg. 1:92   (is that what "20mm" works out at?), or maybe 1:15 if you mean 20mm = 1' ?
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: njee20 on July 26, 2020, 10:15:43 AM
Yeah I must admit I read it as 1:20, and then decided I had no idea how big "20mm" was!

Apparently it's 1:80.5. Obviously!
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: guest311 on July 26, 2020, 10:34:29 AM
many thanks for all the replies, 20mm is a wargames 'scale' which seems to vary between 1/76 and 1/72 depending on manufacturer.

the reason for wanting ten was that some mates were also looking for some, so I assumed it would be easiest to do one print run for the lot.

but
@javlinfaw7 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1970) thank you for the link, I was not aware Shaun had made these, so it will probably be simpler to order those, than ask someone to work from the photos that I've found on line.

again,  :thankyousign: to all for your replies.

Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: Railwaygun on July 26, 2020, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: Railwaygun on July 25, 2020, 11:15:04 PM
there was an N gauge version produced as a special for the

mini japanese Tank sets

its actually a ball turret in a ring.

i will dig out some pics to give you an idea

do you have any drawings yet?

or

Do a Google search for kugelblitz turret and click on images if you havent done so yet. there are some 1/35 kits that could be scaled up?



20mm - I thought you meant 1/20!!
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 26, 2020, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 26, 2020, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: class37025 on July 25, 2020, 08:25:43 PM
apologies, required in 20mm scale  :-[

Is that a military modelling "scale"...  or a model railway "scale"? Quite a difference! (To be honest both are ridiculous ways of expressing a scale)

Better to express as a proper scale ratio eg. 1:92   (is that what "20mm" works out at assuming a 6' solder is 20mm high which I heard somewhere is how military modelling scales work ?)...

Quote from: njee20 on July 26, 2020, 10:15:43 AM
...Apparently it's 1:80.5. Obviously!

Quote from: class37025 on July 26, 2020, 10:34:29 AM
..., 20mm is a wargames 'scale' which seems to vary between 1/76 and 1/72 depending on manufacturer.

Kind of illustrates my point, "20mm" is a terrible way of specifying a "scale", given we have four different scale ratios suggested in just those posts above :D How do scales work in the wargaming and military modelling world? What does it actually relate to in terms of a ratio of measurements? 

I don't like our "2mm", "4mm" conventions used in the model railway world, but at least those are always a ratio against 1 foot.
Title: Re: could anyone design / print this turret
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on July 26, 2020, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 26, 2020, 07:23:31 PM
"20mm" is a terrible way of specifying a "scale", given we have four different scale ratios suggested in just those posts above :D How do scales work in the wargaming and military modelling world? What does it actually relate to in terms of a ratio of measurements? 

20mm relates to the height of the average figure, rather than being a scale.  To confuse matters further, the linear scale for range, distance, etc will vary depending on the rule set used, but will bear no relation to any scale that the 20mm figure height might suggest!

Things in wargaming are 'representative' - not unlike the Dapol Class 142 :P